The Godfather: The Coppola Restoration Blu-ray Collection - 9/23/08
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Here is a Digital Bits review of the Blue Ray edition which seems to make it clear as to what Coppola was shooting for in relation to video quality:
http://www.thedigitalbits.com/review...arest.html#god
http://www.thedigitalbits.com/review...arest.html#god
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So in less than 24 hours he managed to review all three films and the numerous hours of bonus features?
I'm setting aside an entire week to hopefully get through all that stuff...for the first time.
I'm setting aside an entire week to hopefully get through all that stuff...for the first time.
#104
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Yes, this is a problem throughout all three movies...although it doesn't occur frequently enough to annoy and occurs more with the first movie than the sequels. It does, however, occur frequently enough to prevent me from giving the video a "perfect" score. You think someone would have caught them and removed them considering the amount of work they put into these restorations.
I think the fact that they had to use a lot of different sources of both original negatives and dupes to restore Part I shows in the print...most scenes look great, but some look a little TOO bright or a little TOO drained of color.
On the other hand, I think Godfather II might be my favorite of the three visually...it's damn near perfect - retaining both the film look and still giving us the detail you expect to see from high definition. It was like watching that film for the first time again...outstanding work on this one.
The Godfather III, of course, looks great...but I was happy to see that it maintains the slight grain and film look of the other two films. I'm not sure they got it right with the previous DVD release...but this one looks spot-on.
Overall, I'd say 4 out of 5 stars for video on Blu-ray.
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Yes, this is a problem throughout all three movies...although it doesn't occur frequently enough to annoy and occurs more with the first movie than the sequels. It does, however, occur frequently enough to prevent me from giving the video a "perfect" score. You think someone would have caught them and removed them considering the amount of work they put into these restorations.
I think the fact that they had to use a lot of different sources of both original negatives and dupes to restore Part I shows in the print...most scenes look great, but some look a little TOO bright or a little TOO drained of color.
On the other hand, I think Godfather II might be my favorite of the three visually...it's damn near perfect - retaining both the film look and still giving us the detail you expect to see from high definition. It was like watching that film for the first time again...outstanding work on this one.
The Godfather III, of course, looks great...but I was happy to see that it maintains the slight grain and film look of the other two films. I'm not sure they got it right with the previous DVD release...but this one looks spot-on.
Overall, I'd say 4 out of 5 stars for video on Blu-ray.
I think the fact that they had to use a lot of different sources of both original negatives and dupes to restore Part I shows in the print...most scenes look great, but some look a little TOO bright or a little TOO drained of color.
On the other hand, I think Godfather II might be my favorite of the three visually...it's damn near perfect - retaining both the film look and still giving us the detail you expect to see from high definition. It was like watching that film for the first time again...outstanding work on this one.
The Godfather III, of course, looks great...but I was happy to see that it maintains the slight grain and film look of the other two films. I'm not sure they got it right with the previous DVD release...but this one looks spot-on.
Overall, I'd say 4 out of 5 stars for video on Blu-ray.
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I read that very little was done (audio/video) tweaking for III, but the American Cinematographer article mentioned it as a director's cut - is there new footage for III? I know that one scene was trimmed of it's violence to secure it's R-rating, but I doubt it's been restored for this version (or has it?)
It's possible I'm remembering the VHS version of III rather than the DVD one - or maybe it's just my reaction from seeing it on Blu-ray compared to DVD (the film now has a deeper, richer look to it). Part III definitely maintains the color pallet of I and II in this new release, though. I'm quite happy with the way it looks, changes or not.
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I read that very little was done (audio/video) tweaking for III, but the American Cinematographer article mentioned it as a director's cut - is there new footage for III? I know that one scene was trimmed of it's violence to secure it's R-rating, but I doubt it's been restored for this version (or has it?)
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With the Amazon price of $61.95, before the $5 off using the Bill Me Later coupon and the $10 upgrade rebate ... for a total of $46.95, this was a no brainer for me.
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^ One caution for those expecting rebates. The fine print on the form says the store receipt must eminate from the same state that you live in. If they follow that to the letter, that would disqualify on-line purchases. I'm anxious to see if they honor my rebate on Transformers I bought from Columbia House...
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Tower.com has The Godfather Trilogy BD for $59.86 shipped, and according to someone at hometheaterforum.com, their shipping is faster than amazon's standard shipping. It shows it as already in stock and Ships within 12 hours. I've canceled my amazon order and gone with Tower.
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If any of you here get a headache reading DVDBeaver, I suggest you get a firefox addon called Accessibar. It allows you to change the background color and text color which is really needed for these kinds of sites.
#116
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Why would you even want it? The theatrical cut was rushed to meet its Christmas release and was essentially an incomplete version as it played in theaters.
This wasn't a case of a director changing his mind after-the-fact and attempting to revise history. Coppola could not get his final cut of the movie ready in time. The home video version is the final cut.
This wasn't a case of a director changing his mind after-the-fact and attempting to revise history. Coppola could not get his final cut of the movie ready in time. The home video version is the final cut.
I never saw Godfather III in the theater. Even though the film was reviled at the time, it didn't seem nearly as awful as it was made out to be when I finally saw it. Sure, it's a definite step down from the first two, but it was still a solid film.
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The reason it's so reviled is because of Sofia Coppola, and rightly so. Every scene she's in is pretty much unwatchable. The rest isn't so bad, but isn't nearly up to the level of the first two. If this was called "Old Man Pacino" it probably would have been better received, but it suffered from the weight of the expectations set by the first two films.
#118
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DVDBeaver on Part III.
I think those screenshots confirm what I suspected - the previous version of Part III on DVD didn't maintain the darker color pallet of Parts I & II...they seem to have corrected this for the new version.
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The American Cinematographer article talked about this issue and how it was color corrected to match the other two films. I didn't doubt this for a minute.
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Finally, someone else mentions this. The white on black background is terrible.
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Good comparison pics thread from the one and only Xylon over at the AVS forum.
These are better than DVD Beavers comparison shots IMO.
The new transfers look phenomenal.
These are better than DVD Beavers comparison shots IMO.
The new transfers look phenomenal.
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