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Discussions about the various Blu-ray Disc players have been scattered in several threads. Since I am in the market for a BD player, I'd like to assemble what information I can about the various choices, both present and future.
My preference would be to stick to Profile 1.1 and Profile 2.0 players. The Profile 1.0 machines are pretty well known to most of us. Please point out additions or errors. Thanks. To the best of my knowledge, ALL of the players below are capable of outputting a 1080p/24 video signal. [However, please be aware that many displays that accept a 1080/24 input convert it to 1080/60 using 3:2 pulldown, which is the same thing as having the player do it. Displays that genuinely accept and use a native 1080/24 signal at some multiple of 24 (48, 72, 96, or 120 Hz) without first converting to 1080/60 are less common.]
[Please be aware that features, prices, and release dates for players not yet released are speculative!] Sony Playstation 3 (various models) • Currently available, MSRP $400 • Profile 2.0 • No Analog 5.1 or 7.1 channel audio output • Onboard decoding of Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD Master Audio for output as PCM over HDMI • No bitstreaming of Dolby TrueHD or DTS-HD Master Audio over HDMI to capable receivers Sony BDP-S360 • Currently available; $300 • Profile 2.0 • No Analog 5.1 or 7.1 channel audio output • Onboard decoding of Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD Master Audio for output over HDMI to capable receivers • Bitstream output of Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD Master Audio over HDMI 1.3 to capable receivers Sony BDP-S560, has built-in Wi-Fi capability • July 2009; $350 • Profile 2.0 • No Analog 5.1 or 7.1 channel audio output • Onboard decoding of Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD Master Audio • Bitstream output of Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD Master Audio over HDMI 1.3 to capable receivers Sony BDP-S350 (BDP-BX1) http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/st...4762264&EDATE= Operating manual • OOP; $300 • Profile 2.0 • No Analog 5.1 or 7.1 channel audio output • Onboard decoding of Dolby TrueHD • Bitstream output of Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD Master Audio over HDMI 1.3 to capable receivers Sony BDP-S550 http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/st...4762264&EDATE= Operating manual • OOP; $400 • Profile 2.0 • 7.1 analog audio output, partial speaker controls: distance & volume in pairs, no crossover adjustment • Onboard decoding of Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD Master Audio • Bitstream output of Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD Master Audio over HDMI 1.3 to capable receivers Panasonic DMP-BD60 Viera Cast feature streams YouTube/Amazon VOD Operating manual Cnet Review • Currently available, MSRP $300 • Profile 2.0 • No analog audio output • Onboard decoding of Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD Master Audio for output as LPCM over HDMI • Bitstream output of Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD Master Audio over HDMI 1.3 to capable receivers Panasonic DMP-BD605 Viera Cast feature streams YouTube/Amazon VOD (This is a re-badged BD60 that includes an HDMI cable in the box and is sold at warehouse clubs, such as Costco. • Currently available, MSRP $280 • Profile 2.0 • No analog audio output • Onboard decoding of Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD Master Audio for output as LPCM over HDMI • Bitstream output of Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD Master Audio over HDMI 1.3 to capable receivers Panasonic DMP-BD80 Viera Cast feature streams YouTube/Amazon VOD, supports DivX Review by Big Picture Big Sound • Currently available, MSRP $400 • Profile 2.0 • 7.1 analog audio output, speaker controls unknown • Onboard decoding of Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD Master Audio for output over analog and HDMI • Bitstream output of Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD Master Audio over HDMI 1.3 to capable receivers Panasonic DMP-BD30 http://panasonic.net/pavc/blu-ray/dm...fications.html • OOP, MSRP $400 • Profile 1.1 • 5.1 analog audio output, no decent speaker controls • No onboard decoding of Dolby TrueHD or DTS-HD Master Audio for output over analog and HDMI • Bitstream output of Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD Master Audio over HDMI 1.3 to capable receivers Panasonic DMP-BD35 • OOP, MSRP $300 • Profile 2.0 • No analog audio output • Onboard decoding of Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD Master Audio for output as LPCM over HDMI • Bitstream output of Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD Master Audio over HDMI 1.3 to capable receivers Panasonic DMP-BD50 http://panasonic.net/pavc/blu-ray/dm...fications.html http://www2.panasonic.com/webapp/wcs...22008022415775 Operating manual • OOP, MSRP $700 • Profile 2.0 • 5.1 analog audio output, no decent speaker controls • Onboard decoding of Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD Master Audio for output over analog and HDMI • Bitstream output of Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD Master Audio over HDMI 1.3 to capable receivers Panasonic DMP-BD55 Big Picture Big Sound Review cnet Review Operating manual • OOP, $400 • Profile 2.0 • 7.1 analog audio output, partial speaker controls: distance in pairs, no crossover adjustment, but individual volume control for each speaker • Onboard decoding of Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD Master Audio for output over analog and HDMI • Bitstream output of Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD Master Audio over HDMI 1.3 to capable receivers Oppo BDP-83 Features and Specs Operating manual Enjoythemusic.com Review • Currently available, MSRP $500 • Profile 2.0 • 7.1 channel analog output, speakers adjustable for distance and volume; adjustable crossover • Onboard decoding of Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD Master Audio for output over analog and HDMI • Bitstream output of Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD Master Audio over HDMI 1.3 to capable receivers Denon DVD-2500BTCI http://www.usa.denon.com/ProductDetails/3953.asp • Currently available, MSRP $1000 • Profile 1.1 • No multichannel analog output • No onboard decoding of Dolby TrueHD or DTS-HD Master Audio for output over analog and HDMI • Bitstream output of Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD Master Audio for output over HDMI 1.3 to capable receivers Denon DVD-3800BDCI http://www.usa.denon.com/ProductDetails/3961.asp • Currently available, MSRP $2000 • Profile 1.1 • 7.1 channel analog output, full speaker controls • Onboard decoding of Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD Master Audio for output over analog and HDMI • Bitstream output of Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD Master Audio for output over HDMI 1.3 to capable receivers Marantz BD8002 http://us.marantz.com/Marantz_-_Blu-...se_-_Final.pdf • Currently available, MSRP $2100 • Profile 1.1 • 7.1 channel analog output, full speaker controls • Onboard decoding of Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD Master Audio for output over analog and HDMI • Bitstream output of Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD Master Audio for output over HDMI 1.3 to capable receivers Pioneer BDP-120 • April 2009, $250 • Profile 2.0 • None • Onboard decoding of Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD Master Audio for output over HDMI • Bitstream output of Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD Master Audio for output over HDMI 1.3 to capable receivers Pioneer BDP-320 • April 2009, $400 • Profile 2.0 • 7.1 channel analog output, speaker controls unknown • Onboard decoding of Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD Master Audio for output over analog and HDMI • Bitstream output of Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD Master Audio for output over HDMI 1.3 to capable receivers Pioneer BDP-23FD • April 2009, $600 • Profile 2.0 • 7.1 channel analog output, speaker controls unknown • Onboard decoding of Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD Master Audio for output over analog and HDMI • Bitstream output of Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD Master Audio for output over HDMI 1.3 to capable receivers Pioneer BDP-51FD Operating manual • OOP, $600 • Profile 1.1 • 7.1 channel analog output, no decent speaker controls • Onboard decoding of Dolby TrueHD for output over analog and HDMI (DTS-HD Master Audio to be added via firmware update) • Bitstream output of Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD Master Audio for output over HDMI 1.3 to capable receivers Pioneer BDP-05FD Operating Manual • OOP, $800 • Profile 1.1 • 7.1 channel analog output, no decent speaker controls • Onboard decoding of Dolby TrueHD for output over analog and HDMI (DTS-HD Master Audio to be added via firmware update) • Bitstream output of Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD Master Audio for output over HDMI 1.3 to capable receivers Pioneer BDP-09FD Pictures and description of player • OOP, $2200 • Profile 2.0 • 7.1 channel analog output, full speaker controls? • Onboard decoding of Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD Master Audio for output over analog and HDMI • Bitstream output of Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD Master Audio for output over HDMI 1.3 to capable receivers Samsung BD-P3600 streams Netflix VOD, supports DivX Operating Manual • First half 2009, MSRP $400 • Profile 2.0 • 7.1 channel analog output • Onboard decoding of Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD Master Audio for output over analog and HDMI • Bitstream output of Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD Master Audio for output over HDMI 1.3 to capable receivers Samsung BD-P1600 streams Netflix VOD • Currently available, MSRP $300 • Profile 2.0 • No multichannel analog output • Onboard decoding of Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD Master Audio for output over HDMI • Bitstream output of Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD Master Audio for output over HDMI 1.3 to capable receivers Samsung BD-P1500 • OOP, MSRP $400 • Profile 1.1 (2.0 capable) • No multichannel analog output • Onboard decoding of Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD Master Audio for output over HDMI • Bitstream output of Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD Master Audio for output over HDMI 1.3 to capable receivers Samsung BD-P2500 • OOP, MSRP $500 • Profile 2.0 • 7.1 channel analog output • Onboard decoding of Dolby TrueHD for output over analog and HDMI, no onboard decoding of DTS-HD Master Audio • Bitstream output of Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD Master Audio for output over HDMI 1.3 to capable receivers Samsung BD-P2550 streams Netflix VOD Operating Manual • Currently available, MSRP $350 • Profile 1.1 (2.0 capable) • 7.1 channel analog output, no decent speaker controls • Onboard decoding of Dolby TrueHD for output over analog and HDMI, no onboard decoding of DTS-HD Master Audio • Bitstream output of Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD Master Audio for output over HDMI 1.3 to capable receivers Samsung BD-UP5500 HD DVD/Blu-ray combo player • OOP, MSRP $600 • Profile 1.1 • 5.1 channel analog output • No onboard decoding of Dolby TrueHD or DTS-HD Master Audio for output over analog or HDMI • Bitstream output of Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD Master Audio for output over HDMI 1.3 to capable receivers LG BD270 • Currently available, MSRP $250 • Profile 1.1? • No multichannel analog output • No onboard decoding of Dolby TrueHD or DTS-HD Master Audio for output over analog or HDMI known • Bitstream output of Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD Master Audio for output over HDMI 1.3 to capable receivers LG BD370 streams Netflix VOD • Currently available, MSRP $330 • Profile 2.0 • No multichannel analog output • No onboard decoding of Dolby TrueHD or DTS-HD Master Audio for output over analog or HDMI known • Bitstream output of Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD Master Audio for output over HDMI 1.3 to capable receivers LG BD390 streams Netflix VOD, has WiFi internet capability • Currently available, MSRP $450 • Profile 2.0 • 7.1 channel analog output, speaker controls unknown • Onboard decoding of Dolby TrueHD or DTS-HD Master Audio for output over analog or HDMI unknown • Bitstream output of Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD Master Audio for output over HDMI 1.3 to capable receivers LG BH200 Super Blu Blu-Ray HD DVD Combo • OOP, MSRP $800 (but available for much less) • Profile 1.1 • No multichannel analog output • No onboard decoding of Dolby TrueHD or DTS-HD Master Audio for output over analog or HDMI • Bitstream output of Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD Master Audio for output over HDMI 1.3 to capable receivers LG BD300 streams Netflix VOD • OOP, MSRP $300 • Profile 2.0 • No multichannel analog output • Onboard decoding of Dolby TrueHD for output over HDMI, no onboard decoding of DTS-HD Master Audio • Bitstream output of Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD Master Audio for output over HDMI 1.3 to capable receivers Philips BDP3010 • April 2009, MSRP $230 • Profile 1.1 • 5.1 channel analog output • Onboard decoding of Dolby TrueHD or DTS-HD Master Audio unknown • Bitstream output of Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD Master Audio for output over HDMI 1.3 to capable receivers Philips BDP5010 • April 2009, MSRP $250 • Profile 2.0 • Multichannel analog output unknown • Onboard decoding of Dolby TrueHD or DTS-HD Master Audio unknown • Bitstream output of Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD Master Audio for output over HDMI 1.3 to capable receivers Philips BDP7310 DivX, WMV capable • May 2009, MSRP $300 • Profile 2.0 • Multichannel analog output unknown • Onboard decoding of Dolby TrueHD or DTS-HD Master Audio unknown • Bitstream output of Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD Master Audio for output over HDMI 1.3 to capable receivers Philips BDP7200 • OOP, MSRP $400 • Profile 1.1 • 5.1 channel analog output • No onboard decoding of Dolby TrueHD or DTS-HD Master Audio for output over analog and HDMI • Bitstream output of Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD Master Audio for output over HDMI 1.3 to capable receivers Funai NB500 series http://www.funai.us/bluRayDiscFunai.aspx Operating manual • Currently available, MSRP $350 • Profile 1.1 • No multichannel analog output • Onboard decoding of Dolby TrueHD for output over analog and HDMI, no onboard decoding of DTS-HD Master Audio • Bitstream output of Dolby TrueHD for output over HDMI 1.3 to capable receivers, no bitstream output of DTS-HD Master Audio Sylvania NB500SL9 (appears to be a rebadged Funai) • Currently available, MSRP $350 • Profile 1.1 • No multichannel analog output • Onboard decoding of Dolby TrueHD for output over analog and HDMI, no onboard decoding of DTS-HD Master Audio • Bitstream output of Dolby TrueHD for output over HDMI 1.3 to capable receivers, no bitstream output of DTS-HD Master Audio Magnavox NB500MG9 (appears to be a rebadged Funai) Operating manual • Currently available, MSRP $350 • Profile 1.1 • No multichannel analog output • Onboard decoding of Dolby TrueHD for output over analog and HDMI, no onboard decoding of DTS-HD Master Audio • Bitstream output of Dolby TrueHD for output over HDMI 1.3 to capable receivers, no bitstream output of DTS-HD Master Audio Memorex MVBD-2510 • Currently available, MSRP $269 • Profile 1.1 • 5.1 channel analog output, , speaker distance and volume adjustable, no crossover adjustment • Onboard decoding of Dolby TrueHD for output over analog and HDMI, no onboard decoding of DTS-HD Master Audio • Bitstream output of Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD Master Audio for output over HDMI 1.3 to capable receivers Memorex MVBD-2511 • Currently available, MSRP $269 • Profile 2.0? • 7.1 channel analog output, speaker distance and volume adjustable, no crossover adjustment • Onboard decoding of Dolby TrueHD for output over analog and HDMI, no onboard decoding of DTS-HD Master Audio • Bitstream output of Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD Master Audio for output over HDMI 1.3 to capable receivers Memorex MVBD-2520 • Early summer 2009, MSRP $200 • Profile 2.0 • Multichannel analog output unknown • Onboard decoding of Dolby TrueHD for output over HDMI, no onboard decoding of DTS-HD Master Audio • Bitstream output of Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD Master Audio for output over HDMI 1.3 to capable receivers Vizio VBR100 • April 2009, MSRP $200 • Profile 2.0 • 7.1 channel analog output, speaker controls unknown • Onboard decoding of Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD Master Audio for output over analog and HDMI • Bitstream output of Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD Master Audio for output over HDMI 1.3 to capable receivers JVC XV-BP1 • March 2009, MSRP $300 • Profile 2.0 • Multichannel analog output unknown • Onboard decoding of Dolby TrueHD or DTS-HD Master Audio unknown • Bitstream output of Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD Master Audio for output over HDMI 1.3 to capable receivers Insignia NS-BDLIVE01 http://insigniaproducts.com/products...-BDLIVE01.html This player is a Best Buy store brand. It does not have VOD streaming or WiFi capability. hometheatereview.com • Currently available, MSRP $150 • Profile 2.0 • No multichannel analog output • No onboard decoding of Dolby TrueHD or DTS-HD Master Audio • Bitstream output of Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD Master Audio for output over HDMI 1.3 to capable receivers Toshiba BDX2000 • November 2009, MSRP $250 • Profile 2.0 • No multichannel analog output • Onboard decoding of Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD Master Audio for output over analog and HDMI • Bitstream output of Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD Master Audio for output over HDMI 1.3 to capable receivers Glossary: Profile 1.1 (also called “Bonus View”): Allows the use of such features as “Picture-in-Picture” commentaries. Profile 2.0 (also called “BD Live”): Has an ethernet connection for viewing features on-line. Bitstream: Allows the digital audio signal to be sent unprocessed to an HDMI 1.3 receiver with onboard decoding of lossless codecs. Please be aware that in order to listen to commentaries, menu sounds, and the like, it is necessary to use PCM output so that the sound can be mixed in the player. PCM, LPCM: Pulse-Code Modulation, Linear Pulse-Code Modulation. This is a digital format that can be used to transmit audio over HDMI to a digital receiver. Technically it is a digital representation of an analog signal. Some Blu-ray Discs use PCM to encode uncompressed audio tracks, but it is inefficient and takes a lot of space. Players that can decode lossless codecs can output them as PCM over HDMI to an HDMI equipped receiver or, in some cases, over multi-channel analog outputs to an older receiver with multi-channel analog inputs. Dolby TrueHD: Lossless multi-channel audio codec from Dolby Laboratories. Optical and coax S/PDIF connections don’t have the bandwidth to carry this codec, so it requires HDMI (for either bitstream or PCM transmission to the receiver) or on-board decoding for multi-channel analog output. TrueHD is more space efficient than a PCM audio track, but otherwise identical when decoded. DTS-HD Master Audio: Lossless multi-channel audio codec from Digital Theater System. Optical and coax S/PDIF connections don’t have the bandwidth to carry this codec, so it requires HDMI (for either bitstream or PCM transmission to the receiver) or on-board decoding for multi-channel analog output. DTS-HD MA is more space efficient than a PCM audio track, but otherwise identical when decoded. S/PDIF: Sony/Philips Digital Interconnect Format. This is the legacy audio interface used to connect DVD players and Home Theater Receivers. It does not have the bandwidth for lossless audio codecs nor for uncompressed PCM audio. Lossless: As used here, it refers to compressed audio codecs that retain all of the information of the original. When decoded, a lossless audio track is bit for bit identical to the original. HDMI: High-Definition Multimedia Interface. This is the current interface for audio/visual connections in High Definition devices. It can accommodate high definition video signals as well as lossless audio tracks. HDMI is similar to DVI, except that the latter interface does not accommodate audio. For HDMI/DVI adapters or cables to work, the HD display must be HDCP (High-bandwidth Digital Content Protection) compliant. Codec: An algorithm used to encode a particular audio or video signal. 1080p/24: Refers to a player that can output a 1080 x 1920 progressive scan video signal in 24 frames per second. This is useful if one has a display that is capable of accepting a 1080p/24 input and outputting video at a multiple of 24 Hz (usually 72 or 120 Hz). Most films are shot at 24 fps so it is believed that discs encoded at 24 fps and displayed at an even multiple of that frame rate will have an improved picture quality, thanks to the reduced processing required to convert them to 30 or 60 Hz (called 3:2 pulldown). 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And I agree that this is an awesome idea, and very well laid out. Maybe it could be made sticky?
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Can the PS3 be made capable of bitstreaming unprocessed audio via HDMI with a firmware upgrade, or is there a hardware-limiting restriction?
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Cool -- thanks very much for this, Lizard!
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Maybe more useful if presented as table - with models on the vertical axis and features/prices/dates on the horizontal.
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The PS3 is already capable of Profile 2.0, it just hasn't been released to the public yet. It was how 2.0 features were tested and implemented like on the Saw IV disc.
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The Panasonic DMP-BD30 can bitstream DTS HD Master Audio.
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Has anyone had any experience with HD-SDI modded Blu-Ray players yet? Are we allowed to discuss this? Sorry ahead of time if the answer is no.
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This chart has been in circulation at Blu-Ray.com for some time now and has great info in it. I believe Namja also linked it.*
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Lizard said before that he didn't want a PS3.
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The Panasonic BD30 is now at $430, shipped, from Amazon/Vanns.
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You know that's really tempting for the BD30. I was going to wait for the PS3 to decode DTS-HD MA, but if I can find the BD30 locally under $400 I might go for it.
I don't see this in the local IL add for this weekend though, and their site says $499. Maybe this is a deal just for your store?
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Well so much for buying the BD30. I'm not buying into what appears to be an unfixable PCM issue with the LFE channel.
This thread is a must-read for anyone considering the BD30: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...=983656&page=1
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While the LFE issue on the BD30 is very real, there are workarounds to solve the problem.
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thanks for this thread lizard
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I have an Onkyo 605 which I don't believe I can raise the Subwoofer channel output on - only lower it. I've thought about it some more, and after considering how many Blu-Ray''s I have with DTS-HD (over 50), I may still get the BD30 for under $400 just for those films. I have a PS3 and BDP-S1. While I'd like to retire the BDP-S1 completely from my HT to free up space, if I have to use it for PCM movies, so be it. The bug doesn't affect bitstreamed TrueHD or DTS-HD thankfully. And of course I can always use my PS3, but since I actually use it and bought it primarily for gaming, I haven't played too many movies on it.
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02-18-08, 10:12 AM
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So the PS3 is the cheapest BD player available, aside from others going on sale?
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02-18-08, 11:14 AM
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One of the older Samsung's might be on sale somewhere (should still be avoided though), and the BDP-S300 was going for 299.99 at a lot of places during the holidays, but is probably back up to around $350-$400 now. The PS3 is still the best choice IMO at that price point. The Panny BD30 would be the most obvious competitor, but it's not a perfect machine.
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02-22-08, 07:48 PM
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Well some great news for the BD30. It's been confirmed multiple beta testers have new firmware that fixes the LFE issue, and Panasonic is apparently ready to release the firmware Monday. See the relevant AVS thread for more info.
I feel even better now about getting the BD30 this week for $439.
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