Toshiba A1/XA1/D1 startup/load times...what are yours?

ChrisHicks · 05-12-06, 10:38 PM

I don't have a stopwatch to get an exact time on my XA1 but it seems like its about 1:30 before I can start a movie(when the disc is already in the player) and a bit longer iff not. I have seen a few people over at AVS stating startup/load times of under 20sec. for each. I was wondering if anyone has/would time theirs and report what their times are and when the player was made? someone suggested a newer firmware may be on these but those with faster times haven't reported back yet. could it be possible Toshiba ran out of a few items internally and were forced to "upgrade" to something different which caused the speedups? I'm really curious about this now.

a few quotes from AVS:

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My HD-A! takes exactly 40 seconds to boot to the welcome screen and another 30 seconds or so to start playing a HD DVD disc for a total of 70 seconds.

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alrighty, so I just finished watching Serenity.......

Player boots up and open the drive in 19secs.
Loads the HD-DVD in 18 secs....

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I stop watched my XA-1.

I get the following:

cold start to getting an image = 80 seconds,

ON --> No DISK message = 35 seconds

I would shave the amount of time I took to remove the HD DVD from the case and inserted it into the player.

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my player boots fairly fast..about 17 secs to load screen and then about 10 secs to play movie...

but it boots even faster if I turn it on with the movie already inside..about 25 or less secs..

sucks for those who takes 40+ secs to boot...

Adam Tyner · 05-12-06, 10:47 PM

About 40 seconds for it to boot up and another 20 for the disc in the player to come up.

Maxflier · 05-12-06, 11:13 PM

Guess I can't participate since I have the D1...

ChrisHicks · 05-12-06, 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Maxflier

Guess I can't participate since I have the D1...

oops, I forgot about the D1(not much talk about that one). maybe a mod will throw that in my heading.

Adam Tyner · 05-12-06, 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by ChrisHicks

maybe a mod will throw that in my heading.

Sho' 'nuff.

ChrisHicks · 05-13-06, 12:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Adam Tyner

Sho' 'nuff.

thanks.

Maxflier · 05-13-06, 01:27 AM

Mine is probably about the same as Adam Tyners. I'd be inclined to believe that anyone who claims that theirs is booted up in under 20 secs is either lying through their teeth or lying out their ass.

darkside · 05-13-06, 06:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Adam Tyner

About 40 seconds for it to boot up and another 20 for the disc in the player to come up.

This sounds about right for my player as well.

Josh Z · 05-13-06, 11:41 AM

A watched pot never boils, as my grandmother is fond of saying. The more you obsess over how long it takes the boot up, the longer it seems. Do what I do; turn on the HD-DVD player first before the rest of your equipment. By the time everything else is ready and you're seated, the movie will be ready.

It's the HDCP verification and "handshake" that causes such a long startup delay, and unfortunately HDCP isn't going away.

quickfire · 05-13-06, 11:54 AM

What amazes me is that we can't seem to give 1 minute for a average 2 hour movie!!!!We as a society have become to demanding & impatient....

!!!!

ChrisHicks · 05-13-06, 11:59 AM

I never said it bothered me for the startup/load times. I have actually posted before that its not a big deal for me. I just turn it on and go grab a drink from the fridge or whatever, come back and I'm ready to go. I just saw a few posters claiming those times and it raised my curiousity.

Maxflier · 05-13-06, 12:12 PM

Just for the record, i am not bothered the least bit by the load time.

Adam Tyner · 05-13-06, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Josh Z

The more you obsess over how long it takes the boot up, the longer it seems.

Right -- it bothered me at first because my habit with my old DVD player was to hit eject, put in the disc, and then mill around for a couple of minute. After changing the order of things a bit, now I don't really notice.

darkside · 05-13-06, 05:56 PM

Yep, it is a minor issue, but as posted above turn on the HD DVD player first before doing anything else and its all ready by the time you are.

Deus · 05-13-06, 06:24 PM

Are they all using the same disc? Some DVDs take longer to load than others. The difference could be down to what HD-DVD they're trying to play.

Binger · 05-15-06, 12:49 PM

The thing that really bothers me the most is that you have to wait for it to completly boot up in order to remove a disc that you may have left inside. Hopefully a firmware update will allow the player to eject a disc while booting.

Mr. Cinema · 05-15-06, 01:33 PM

The load times don't bother me. I mean, we're only talking a minute or 2 before everything is ready. And there's 24 hours in a day, so no rush.

Just keep telling yourself this is a 1st generation model. I think it's unfair to compare this 1st generation model to today's newest dvd players as far as loading, etc. goes. It'd be much better to compare them to the 1st gen. dvd players. Plus, the HD has some checking to do before it decides it's ready to play.

PerryD · 05-23-06, 05:26 PM

Since most DVDs have so many FBI warnings and such that aren't fast-forwardable, when I get ready to watch a movie, I usually insert the DVD, turn on everything else, watch regular TV for a few minutes, then switch over to DVD input to watch my movie. That's how much I hate unskippable warnings and ads. I wouldn't notice an extra 40 seconds delay at all.

05-12-06, 10:47 PM	#2
Adam Tyner DVD Talk Reviewer/ Moderator Join Date: Sep 1999 Location: Greenville, South Cackalack Posts: 14,785	About 40 seconds for it to boot up and another 20 for the disc in the player to come up. __________________ "When you're in your twenties, you wonder what everyone's thinking of you. When you're in your thirties, you don't care what people think of you. And when you reach your forties, you find out no one was ever thinking of you in the first place." -Patton Oswalt

05-12-06, 11:13 PM	#3
Maxflier DVD Talk Hall of Fame Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Louisiana Posts: 8,849	Guess I can't participate since I have the D1... __________________ My DVD / HD DVD / Blu-Ray Collection My Game Collection XBOX Live Gamertag:Maxflier PSN:Maxflier My Countdown Counting down to: The first Saturday in May. 349 days 10 hours 41 minutes

05-13-06, 01:27 AM	#7
Maxflier DVD Talk Hall of Fame Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Louisiana Posts: 8,849	Mine is probably about the same as Adam Tyners. I'd be inclined to believe that anyone who claims that theirs is booted up in under 20 secs is either lying through their teeth or lying out their ass. __________________ My DVD / HD DVD / Blu-Ray Collection My Game Collection XBOX Live Gamertag:Maxflier PSN:Maxflier My Countdown Counting down to: The first Saturday in May. 349 days 10 hours 41 minutes

05-13-06, 11:41 AM	#9
Josh Z DVD Talk Hall of Fame Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Boston Posts: 9,760	A watched pot never boils, as my grandmother is fond of saying. The more you obsess over how long it takes the boot up, the longer it seems. Do what I do; turn on the HD-DVD player first before the rest of your equipment. By the time everything else is ready and you're seated, the movie will be ready. It's the HDCP verification and "handshake" that causes such a long startup delay, and unfortunately HDCP isn't going away. __________________ Josh Z Critic, High-Def Digest (Blog updated daily!) Contributor, Home Theater Magazine Curator, Laserdisc Forever \| Cinema Zyberdiso My opinions are my own, and do not necessarily reflect those of my employers.

05-13-06, 11:59 AM	#11
ChrisHicks DVD Talk Ultimate Edition Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Michigan Posts: 4,611	I never said it bothered me for the startup/load times. I have actually posted before that its not a big deal for me. I just turn it on and go grab a drink from the fridge or whatever, come back and I'm ready to go. I just saw a few posters claiming those times and it raised my curiousity. __________________ Wii Friend Code: 1249 6431 9623 9624 / XBL Gamertag / PS3 Gamertag: chrishicks

05-13-06, 11:54 AM	#10
quickfire Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: NorthEast Tennessee Posts: 77	What amazes me is that we can't seem to give 1 minute for a average 2 hour movie!!!!We as a society have become to demanding & impatient.... !!!!

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Maxflier DVD Talk Hall of Fame Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Louisiana Posts: 8,849	Just for the record, i am not bothered the least bit by the load time. __________________ My DVD / HD DVD / Blu-Ray Collection My Game Collection XBOX Live Gamertag:Maxflier PSN:Maxflier My Countdown Counting down to: The first Saturday in May. 349 days 10 hours 41 minutes

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Deus Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: England Posts: 129	Are they all using the same disc? Some DVDs take longer to load than others. The difference could be down to what HD-DVD they're trying to play. __________________ DVD Collection

05-15-06, 12:49 PM	#16
Binger Senior Member Join Date: May 1999 Posts: 840	The thing that really bothers me the most is that you have to wait for it to completly boot up in order to remove a disc that you may have left inside. Hopefully a firmware update will allow the player to eject a disc while booting.

05-15-06, 01:33 PM	#17
Mr. Cinema DVD Talk Legend Join Date: Oct 1999 Posts: 16,940	The load times don't bother me. I mean, we're only talking a minute or 2 before everything is ready. And there's 24 hours in a day, so no rush. Just keep telling yourself this is a 1st generation model. I think it's unfair to compare this 1st generation model to today's newest dvd players as far as loading, etc. goes. It'd be much better to compare them to the 1st gen. dvd players. Plus, the HD has some checking to do before it decides it's ready to play. __________________ 1. Side Effects • 2. - • 3. - • 4. - • 5. - • 6. - • My Countdown Counting down to: Black Swan

05-23-06, 05:26 PM	#18
PerryD DVD Talk Special Edition Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Naperville, IL Posts: 1,842	Since most DVDs have so many FBI warnings and such that aren't fast-forwardable, when I get ready to watch a movie, I usually insert the DVD, turn on everything else, watch regular TV for a few minutes, then switch over to DVD input to watch my movie. That's how much I hate unskippable warnings and ads. I wouldn't notice an extra 40 seconds delay at all.