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GENERAL
WHEN
Watch a film that takes place during five different centuries prior to the 21th Century (Note Century of setting):
--- Movie 1 (Century)
--- Movie 2 (Century)
--- Movie 3 (Century)
--- Movie 4 (Century)
--- Movie 5 (Century)

WHERE
Watch 5 movies about historical events of different countries (Note Country of setting).
--- Movie 1 (Country)
--- Movie 2 (Country)
--- Movie 3 (Country)
--- Movie 4 (Country)
--- Movie 5 (Country)

WHO _/10
Watch at least five of the ten following subcategories:

FOLKLORE & FAITH
--- Film about prehistory
--- Film about the mythology of Antiquity (i.e., Greek gods, dramatization of Homeric poems, etc.)
--- Film about religious history (based on either recorded historical events or fables arising from Judaism, Christianity, Islam, Buddhism, etc.)
--- Film about a folk hero
--- Film about either the Humanities (fine arts) or Sports figure/event

HEY, THEY WERE THERE, TOO!: A LOOK AT MARGINALIZED PEOPLES
(Focus on prominent figures from history and/or depictions of their minority group's oppression, etc.)
--- Film about Women's History
--- Film about Race Relations
--- Film about the LGBTQ Community
--- Film about Religious Minority
--- Film about Immigrants

TWO SIDES TO EVERY STORY
--- Watch at least two movies about the same person/event where each movie is from a different perspective (1/2)
--- Watch at least two movies about the same person/event where each movie is from a different perspective (2/2)

WAR _/10
Watch at least five of the following ten War subcategories:

--- Anti-War film
--- Military Comedy
--- Prisoner of War/Escape film
--- Resistance Movement/Civilians film
--- Submarine film
--- War Spy
--- War film that was produced *during* that war
--- Film about war criminals
--- Film about veterans after the war (framing a "flashback" film doesn't count, so no Saving Private Ryan for this one)
--- Wartime propaganda film OR a film produced by the military

WESTERN _/10
Watch at least five of these ten Western subcategories:

--- The Union Pacific story. (The plot concerns construction of a railroad, a telegraph line, or some other type of modern technology or transportation.) Wagon train stories probably fall into this category.
--- The ranch story. (The plot concerns threats to the ranch from rustlers or large landowners attempting to force out the proper owners.)
--- The empire story. (The plot might involve building up a ranch empire or an oil empire from scratch, a classic rags-to-riches plot.)
--- The revenge story. (The plot often involves an elaborate chase and pursuit, but it may also include elements of the classic mystery story.)
--- The cavalry and Indian story. (The plot revolves around taming the wilderness for white settlers.)
--- The outlaw story. (The outlaw gangs dominate the action.)
--- The marshal story. (The lawman and his challenges drive the plot.)
--- "Export Western" - a Western not actually set in America. There have been numerous Westerns set in Australia, for instance. Samurai films could count for this, too, given the relationship between the two genres.
--- Western movie with a direct connection to a TV show, since Westerns were part of TV's golden age before the Space Generation
--- Neo-Western (i.e., a Western set in more contemporary times, to demonstrate the genre is still alive)

ZEITGEIST WILD CARDS
Because an argument can be made that some movies which fall outside the "obvious" scope of our challenge really are consistent with its spirit, you're permitted to watch and check off up to three optional movies of your choice.
--- Zeitgeist Wild Card #1
--- Zeitgeist Wild Card #2
--- Zeitgeist Wild Card #3[/QUOTE]

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Old 06-27-17, 08:41 PM   #176
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Re: Eighth Annual Historical Films Challenge June 1-30 2017

Found a great movie, by chance, that fits in with the challenge: STILYAGI, a Russian musical about a group of Russian teens who try to adopt the ways of American teenagers in 50's Russia. They don't get much information from the West, so their adaptations are outlandish, and they are subject to raids from conservative groups. Colorful, some great dance numbers and the only musical I have ever seen where the hero and the heroine sing a love song to each other while naked. You can find it on YouTube. Doc recommends!

I found it because I read a story about it being adapted into a Broadway musical.
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what about 'Jaws' - since the book was inspired by the 1916 New Jersey shark attacks and Quint is a fictional character that survived the 1945 USS Indianapolis sinking, mass shark attack; do I need to list that as a 'Wild Card'?
But it's not actually about the 1916 New Jersey shark attacks. It's a contemporary drama. I was looking again and this challenge does not actually have wild cards. It has ZEITGEIST wild cards. That's for stuff like Woodstock, Rebel Without a Cause, Saturday Night Fever, etc. They are for contemporary productions that define their eras. I don't see anything in Jaws that really screams '70s. So that actually shoots down the sports event wild card as well.
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Winding down this challenge. I watched Once Upon a Time in the West (1968). This Sergio Leone film doesn't get as much attention as it should compared to the Dollars trilogy. Also recommend Duck You Sucka.
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But it's not actually about the 1916 New Jersey shark attacks. It's a contemporary drama. I was looking again and this challenge does not actually have wild cards. It has ZEITGEIST wild cards. That's for stuff like Woodstock, Rebel Without a Cause, Saturday Night Fever, etc. They are for contemporary productions that define their eras. I don't see anything in Jaws that really screams '70s. So that actually shoots down the sports event wild card as well.
sorry ... it's been noted that Benchley wrote Jaws as an inspiration of the 1916 attacks.

the only thing that screams 70's is the hair and tacky clothing ... LOL
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Old 06-28-17, 10:28 AM   #180
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sorry ... it's been noted that Benchley wrote Jaws as an inspiration of the 1916 attacks.

the only thing that screams 70's is the hair and tacky clothing ... LOL
Right, but it still takes place in 1975 and is about Amity instead of New Jersey. Nearly any film can be said to be inspired by a past event in the author's mind.
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Old 06-28-17, 11:40 AM   #181
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Winding down this challenge. I watched Once Upon a Time in the West (1968). This Sergio Leone film doesn't get as much attention as it should compared to the Dollars trilogy. Also recommend Duck You Sucka.
I agree on both counts! I think Once Upon... is a better film than the Dollars trilogy films, and I think those three are very good, the absolute best of the Spaghetti Westerns.
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I've been watching documentaries about coups and assassinations, randomly inspired by our current political climate.
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Old 06-30-17, 02:32 AM   #183
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Be sure to number and tally your lists by the end of next week.
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I completed my list. Thanks to caligulathegod for a great june of historical film watching.
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Old 06-30-17, 08:51 PM   #185
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Being overlap time, I decided to watch an episode of Ancient Aliens, on History Channel On Demand, about sacred rituals. I like the fact that close to the entire series is available to watch on demand.
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My great regret for this challenge is that I didn't discover that there are a ton of spaghetti westerns on Amazon Prime until the day before the challenge ends.
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Old 06-30-17, 09:55 PM   #187
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My great regret for this challenge is that I didn't discover that there are a ton of spaghetti westerns on Amazon Prime until the day before the challenge ends.
I didn't even know there were. My great regret is that it never occurred to me until yesterday to watch Flying Through Time, and The Complete History Of Air Combat. I only got one episode in each.
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Old 06-30-17, 10:15 PM   #188
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Re: Eighth Annual Historical Films Challenge June 1-30 2017

Finished the month with Citizenfour and The Danish Girl
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Old 07-01-17, 12:25 AM   #189
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I didn't get in nearly as much as I wanted. Working 10-12 hour days 6 days a week kept me from a lot of movies.
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My great regret for this challenge is that I didn't discover that there are a ton of spaghetti westerns on Amazon Prime until the day before the challenge ends.
I have a ton on my "watch list," but I didn't get to actually watch any during this challenge, although I started watching RENEGADE RIDERS. I did watch a Mexican western on Amazon Prime for this challenge, HARD BREED TO KILL (1967), starring none other than...Slim Pickens!
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Old 07-01-17, 05:06 AM   #191
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My list is finalized. I ended up with 156 watches, the last two of which were double credit entries for the Sci-Fi/Fantasy Challenge. I didn't do first time views, as with TV shows, I don't list them. Thanks for running a great Challenge, Caligula. I had a lot of fun.
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John Milius' "Rough Riders," a two-part miniseries about Theodore Roosevelt and his Rough Riders and their action in Cuba during the Spanish-American War, aired on the Western Channel last night, so I closed out the challenge with Part 1. (Part 2 was on too late for me.) Brian Keith, in his last role, plays President William McKinley. He'd once played President Theodore Roosevelt for Milius, in THE WIND AND THE LION (1975).

Question for BobO'Link: I see you have THE WIND CANNOT READ on your list post. How did you get to see that? I did a blog post on Japanese actress Yoko Tani, the film's female star, and that's the one film I came across in her filmography that I most wanted to see.
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Question for BobO'Link: I see you have THE WIND CANNOT READ on your list post. How did you get to see that? I did a blog post on Japanese actress Yoko Tani, the film's female star, and that's the one film I came across in her filmography that I most wanted to see.
It's part of a set called "The Best of British War Cinema" I picked up a few months back (Amazon link on title). I really like British war productions and had run across it while looking for Dirk Bogarde comedy films. He's also in that production. It's a really good set and quite a bargain.
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This challenge is by far my favourite - did double time yesterday and the day before finishing movies I had started - four hours of 'Ancient Aliens' on tv last night was exhausting but a good way to get me primed for the sci-fi /fantasy challenge - thanks Caligula for hosting this
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I did watch a Mexican western on Amazon Prime for this challenge, HARD BREED TO KILL (1967), starring none other than...Slim Pickens!
*runs off to add that to his watch list* That sounds pretty amazing.
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It's part of a set called "The Best of British War Cinema" I picked up a few months back (Amazon link on title). I really like British war productions and had run across it while looking for Dirk Bogarde comedy films. He's also in that production. It's a really good set and quite a bargain.
Wow, thanks for that link. I never even heard of most of the movies in that set.
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Old 07-01-17, 05:34 PM   #197
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My list is finalized.

The centerpiece of my challenge was Rocket Science a documentary TV series (12 episodes) made in Canada which covered the US space program from the X-planes through the Apollo missions. Apparently there was also a pilot episode not included on the DVD set. I thought this was an excellent series combining footage of liftoffs, outer space, and moon walks with interviews with pilots, astronauts, members of mission control and even Walter Cronkite! It also spent a little time on the Russian space program and current events when those had a direct impact on the space program. I don't remember where I got the DVDs. I know it was at a convention and the most likely one is the first Worldcon I went to back in 2006 but I just can't be sure. As kind of an addendum and to wrap up the challenge last night, I watched The Wonder of It All, a documentary about seven of the twelve men who walked on the moon. Instead of a historical approach, this film explored the thoughts and feelings of very different people who shared a common experience. This was fascinating and ended the challenge on a very high note.

Thanks to caligulathegod for keeping this challenge going. I never watch real high numbers in this one but I do enjoying seeing some westerns and war movies and learning something from a documentary or two.
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List finalized (#10 in the list thread).
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List Finalized
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List finalized, managed 23 viewings.
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