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GENERAL
WHEN
Watch a film that takes place during five different centuries prior to the 21th Century (Note Century of setting):
--- Movie 1 (Century)
--- Movie 2 (Century)
--- Movie 3 (Century)
--- Movie 4 (Century)
--- Movie 5 (Century)

WHERE
Watch 5 movies about historical events of different countries (Note Country of setting).
--- Movie 1 (Country)
--- Movie 2 (Country)
--- Movie 3 (Country)
--- Movie 4 (Country)
--- Movie 5 (Country)

WHO _/10
Watch at least five of the ten following subcategories:

FOLKLORE & FAITH
--- Film about prehistory
--- Film about the mythology of Antiquity (i.e., Greek gods, dramatization of Homeric poems, etc.)
--- Film about religious history (based on either recorded historical events or fables arising from Judaism, Christianity, Islam, Buddhism, etc.)
--- Film about a folk hero
--- Film about either the Humanities (fine arts) or Sports figure/event

HEY, THEY WERE THERE, TOO!: A LOOK AT MARGINALIZED PEOPLES
(Focus on prominent figures from history and/or depictions of their minority group's oppression, etc.)
--- Film about Women's History
--- Film about Race Relations
--- Film about the LGBTQ Community
--- Film about Religious Minority
--- Film about Immigrants

TWO SIDES TO EVERY STORY
--- Watch at least two movies about the same person/event where each movie is from a different perspective (1/2)
--- Watch at least two movies about the same person/event where each movie is from a different perspective (2/2)

WAR _/10
Watch at least five of the following ten War subcategories:

--- Anti-War film
--- Military Comedy
--- Prisoner of War/Escape film
--- Resistance Movement/Civilians film
--- Submarine film
--- War Spy
--- War film that was produced *during* that war
--- Film about war criminals
--- Film about veterans after the war (framing a "flashback" film doesn't count, so no Saving Private Ryan for this one)
--- Wartime propaganda film OR a film produced by the military

WESTERN _/10
Watch at least five of these ten Western subcategories:

--- The Union Pacific story. (The plot concerns construction of a railroad, a telegraph line, or some other type of modern technology or transportation.) Wagon train stories probably fall into this category.
--- The ranch story. (The plot concerns threats to the ranch from rustlers or large landowners attempting to force out the proper owners.)
--- The empire story. (The plot might involve building up a ranch empire or an oil empire from scratch, a classic rags-to-riches plot.)
--- The revenge story. (The plot often involves an elaborate chase and pursuit, but it may also include elements of the classic mystery story.)
--- The cavalry and Indian story. (The plot revolves around taming the wilderness for white settlers.)
--- The outlaw story. (The outlaw gangs dominate the action.)
--- The marshal story. (The lawman and his challenges drive the plot.)
--- "Export Western" - a Western not actually set in America. There have been numerous Westerns set in Australia, for instance. Samurai films could count for this, too, given the relationship between the two genres.
--- Western movie with a direct connection to a TV show, since Westerns were part of TV's golden age before the Space Generation
--- Neo-Western (i.e., a Western set in more contemporary times, to demonstrate the genre is still alive)

ZEITGEIST WILD CARDS
Because an argument can be made that some movies which fall outside the "obvious" scope of our challenge really are consistent with its spirit, you're permitted to watch and check off up to three optional movies of your choice.
--- Zeitgeist Wild Card #1
--- Zeitgeist Wild Card #2
--- Zeitgeist Wild Card #3[/QUOTE]

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Old 05-27-17, 12:19 AM   #26
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IMDB calls it a Western. It should also count as a Historical movie. It's a biographical film based on a real person (although his exploits are probably exaggerated).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Hopkins
Thanks for the info. I never knew it was a biographical film. I always thought it was a fictional adventure.
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Re: Eighth Annual Historical Films Challenge June 1-30 2017

Sorry, missed that somehow. All Westerns or films that portray past events, fictional or "true" are eligible.
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Re: Eighth Annual Historical Films Challenge June 1-30 2017

I kicked off my Challenge with the 'Mig Alley' episode of Dogfights. It was all about the aerial battles between the F-86 Sabers and the Mig 15s in the Korean War.
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Old 05-27-17, 12:58 AM   #29
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Sorry, missed that somehow. All Westerns or films that portray past events, fictional or "true" are eligible.
So that means I could also watch my Warriors 50 Movie sword and sandal set from Mill Creek? Cooool.
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Old 05-27-17, 01:34 PM   #30
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Yeah, keep in mind the spirit of the challenge. All movies that don't take place in the future take place in the past, but we're talking historical rather than just previous.
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Thanks for the info. I never knew it was a biographical film. I always thought it was a fictional adventure.
If you're doing the Western checklist, HIDALGO would count in the category of "Export Western", as it does not take place in America.
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If you're doing the Western checklist, HIDALGO would count in the category of "Export Western", as it does not take place in America.
I'm still debating on whether I want to do the checklist or not, but that's good to know. I never would have thought of that. Would something like Walker Texas Ranger be considered a neo western?
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Old 05-28-17, 01:54 PM   #33
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Would something like Walker Texas Ranger be considered a neo western?
No, I don't think so. It should have some past element to it, really. For instance. I don't think The Misfits fits even though it's about cowboys.
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No, I don't think so. It should have some past element to it, really. For instance. I don't think The Misfits fits even though it's about cowboys.
Ok. I've always wondered, but never knew. Glad that is cleared up. And I never even heard of The Misfits.
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If anyone is looking for a good show to watch for the Challenge, the Starz series Spartacus is available to watch on Netflix. I've seen a few episodes in the past on Encore, and enjoyed them. But YMMV.
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Misfits is great. Clark Gable and Marilyn Monroe's last film, written by Arthur Miller.
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Misfits is great. Clark Gable and Marilyn Monroe's last film, written by Arthur Miller.
I'll have to look for it sometime. Not this month though, unless I watch it and don't count it. I think I know what you mean. I can't remember the name, but I watched a movie for the Holiday Challenge on Pixl, that was set in the west, but just be it was about cowboys, it wouldn't be a neo western. I don't remember the name though.
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Re: Eighth Annual Historical Films Challenge June 1-30 2017

I just brought home my dad's Laserdisc player and a stack of about 10 LD movies. One of them is Quigley Down Under. I'm going to watch that, as well as my two HDDVD's of Clint Eastwood's pair of WW2 movies, Flags of Our Fathers and Letters From Iwo Jima. How's that for some throwback media choices? LOL!
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I've got insomnia tonight, so I decided to take advantage of that by working on the Challenge. I put in Disc 2 of Dogfights, Season One, and just finished the episode in which the 'Flying Tigers' were discussed.
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Re: Eighth Annual Historical Films Challenge June 1-30 2017

I started out yesterday with two films that also counted for my MYOC list. Zulu (1964), about the Battle of Rorke's Drift in 1879, and One of Our Aircraft Is Missing (1942), about a British bomber crew being helped by Dutch partisans escape the Nazis after being forced to bail out. I enjoyed both of them but I liked Zulu a bit better. It's been a while since I've seen a film on such an epic scale and that was fun. One of Our Aircraft Is Missing was well made and pretty suspenseful in spots.

Now it's back to the MYOC for a couple more days.
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If anyone is looking for a good show to watch for the Challenge, the Starz series Spartacus is available to watch on Netflix. I've seen a few episodes in the past on Encore, and enjoyed them. But YMMV.
I've watched a number of episodes, but it's so way over the top (blood, sex) that I can't watch too much of it at a time.
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I've watched a number of episodes, but it's so way over the top (blood, sex) that I can't watch too much of it at a time.
That's understandable. I've never binged it myself. Makes sense though, since it's a premium cable show.
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That's understandable. I've never binged it myself. Makes sense though, since it's a premium cable show.
I'm fine with sex and violence on premium cable--in fact, I expect it! But Spartacus
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i'm fine with sex and violence on premium cable--in fact, i expect it! but spartacus
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Old 05-31-17, 12:05 AM   #45
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Re: Eighth Annual Historical Films Challenge June 1-30 2017

I just finished an episode of The Twilight Zone, on MeTV, that counts for this Challenge under the time travel rule. It's called 'Back There', and it stars Russell Johnson, from Gilligan's Island, as a man who gets thrown back in time to the day of Lincoln's assassination.
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I started watching the new season of House of Cards on Netflix. Basically a drama that one can argue is loosely based on the clintons.

Would house of cards qualify? i was guessing No
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I started watching the new season of House of Cards on Netflix. Basically a drama that one can argue is loosely based on the clintons.

Would house of cards qualify? i was guessing No
After reading the plotline on Wikipedia, it sounds interesting but not historical.
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its very interesting. i kinda figured it wouldnt count
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Re: Eighth Annual Historical Films Challenge June 1-30 2017

Curious, because I want to break open my Back to the Future set, does that count by any chance?
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Back to the Future would count.
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