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If a category is listed as "Optional", it does not need to be 
 filled to "complete" the checklist.  There are 10 free spots you may apply to non-Optional categories.
 As with other checklists, titles can count for multiple categories.  
 
 Some of these categories are so obscure we're giving 10 free spots of your choosing to fill in the list.
 
 Watch one film from every decade of film history.
 *	1890 - (insert film title here)(Optional)
 *	1900 -(optional)
 *	1910 -(optional)
 *	1920 -(optional)
 *	1930 -
 *	1940 -
 *	1950 -
 *	1960 -
 *	1970 -
 *	1980 -
 *	1990 -
 *	2000 -
 *      2010 -
 Watch a film for each rating:
 *	G - (optional)
 *	PG -
 *	PG-13 - (optional)
 *	R -
 *	X (or NC-17) -
 *	Unrated (post-MPAA 1968) -
 
 Watch films in at least three formats (DVD, BD, HD DVD, Laserdisc, TV, online, Streaming Netflix type, UMD, theater, iPod, VHS-sourced{VHS transferred to DVD-+R is fine}).
 *	First format, (insert format), (insert title).
 *	Second format, (insert format), (insert title).
 *	Third format, (insert format), (insert title).
 
 Watch a film in an actual Drive-in.  (optional) (insert title)
 
 Watch a film in the following genres:
 
 Italian (or European) films of the following Genres:
 *	Giallo
 *	Sword & Sandal
 *	Spaghetti Western
 *	Cannibal Film
 Martial Arts film:
 *	Bruce Lee-sploitation (Starring any variation on Bruce Li, Le, etc.)
 *	Hong Kong (or other Asian) film
 *	American film
 *	Any "Ninja" film
 *              Bonus*  Actual Bruce Lee film
 Asian Action Film
 Biker Film
 Stoner Film
 Carsploitation Film
 FADsploitation
 Blaxploitation
 Sexploitation:
 *	Any type
 *	Nudie Cutie
 *	Roughie
 *	70s Porn
 *	Emmanuelle Film
 *      Teen Sex Comedy
 Nunsploitation
 Shocksploitation
 Rape/Revenge Film
 Vigilante Film
 Women in Prison
 Nazisploitation
 Eschploitation (religious end times, or general religious exploitation)
 Hixploitation/Moonshiners
 Roadshow Exploitation/30s-40s "Cautionary" films
 Juvenile Delinquent Film
 60s Beach Movie
 Film starring Musical Group or Music Star (that did not become a legit actor)
 *             *Bonus* Elvis film
 Ozploitation
 Mexican Wrestling Film
 Foreign "Ripoff" film (such as Turkish cinema)
 Eco-Terror Film
 Pre-90s Post-Apocalyptic film
 "Mondo" Film
 Documentary ABOUT Exploitation/Drive-ins or those involved in their production
 Video Nasty
 Critical Bomb (Less than 20% Rotten Tomatoes or Metacritic or IMDB Bottom 100  {Bottom 100 archive})
 Financial Bomb
 Razzie Winner or Nominee
 MST3K/RiffTrax (or Cinematic Titanic) version of a film
 
 Watch 3 Paycheck films, A.K.A. Nick Cage memorial. Films with once respected actors fallen on hard times.
 *      1
 *      2
 *      3 
 
 Watch 10 films starring anyone from the actors safe list.
 *	1  
 *	2  
 *	3  
 *	4  
 *	5  
 *	6  
 *	7  
 *	8  
 *	9  
 *	10 
 
 Watch 10 films Directed/Produced by anyone from the directors/producers safe list.
 *	1  
 *	2  
 *	3  
 *	4  
 *	5  
 *	6  
 *	7  
 *	8  
 *	9  
 *	10 
 Watch 5 films from those in the Studio/Distributor safe list.
 *	1  
 *	2  
 *	3  
 *	4  
 *	5
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The following lists are Automatic Safe lists. They are not definitive and there might be exceptions therein, especially concerning Distributors. Generally, the presence of those on the lists in an actual creative capacity (that is, more than just a cameo or bit part. For instance, Bruce Campbell appearing in Spider-Man does not make Spider-Man safe) is enough to make a film safe. Got more? Post them and I'll update the list. Obviously, films not including these participants are safe, too. Update: I added several new names to the actors list. Some of these actors appeared in actual big budget Hollywood fare, but most of their career was in B-Movies, then obviously discard the Big Hollywood movies and just watch the B's (For example, William Shatner. Ignore Star Trek movies but anything else is fair game. Or Patrick Swazye. Ghost is probably not right, but most of his other films were B-Movies).

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Old 03-23-17, 12:14 PM   #26
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Re: 8th Annual Drive-in/Exploitation Challenge April 1-April 30, 2017

So, are we even counting well-receive pics when it comes to M. Night Shyamalan? His recent film Split appears to be getting great ratings, and there was good notice for The Visit among many. He's actually pretty mixed in terms of reception. I'm happy to see his name on the list, but he sticks out a bit. Guys like Rodriguez and Tarantino make genre flicks, too, but do we feel his are generally as exploitative. I'm curious about how he got on there, but I'm guessing it was after his string of critical/commercial flops, which had him ranking with Uwe Boll at that point. But I think once you make the list, you're on it for life. Haha.
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Yeah, good point. He entered when it looked like he was tanking. We can consider removing him from the safe list.
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Just heard that Tomas Milian passed away today
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Old 03-23-17, 03:04 PM   #29
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Looks like he started working with Oliver Stone, Steven Spielberg, John Frankenheimer, Steven Soderbergh, Tony Scott. Abel Ferara, etc. the last third of his career so he's not meant for the safe list, but 90% of his catalog is eligible anyway.
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I was browsing the Dish Guide, and see tomorrow The Gorgon, and Horror Of Dracula are on TCM, if anyone wants to set their DVRs.
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Old 03-24-17, 07:22 AM   #31
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Yeah, good point. He entered when it looked like he was tanking. We can consider removing him from the safe list.
As I looked it over, he's got a pretty small filmography. I don't think he'd be missed. A couple of his films may count as bad flicks, but he doesn't belong in a list with the likes of Bob Clark, Roger Corman, Fred Olen Ray, and Albert Pyun.

That being said, how the hell did David Lynch get safed? I love the guy, but for this list? He has three Oscar nominations for directing and a rather small filmography. Even a Palme D'Or and directing prize at Cannes for Wild at Heart and Mulholland Dr. Not sure what films of his, apart from the midnight movie titles like Eraserhead and INLAND Empire, would qualify. Harmony Korine is quite questionable, too.
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David Lynch was held off the list forever for just that reason but he finally entered as a Cult director. His stuff is so consistently and aggressively non-mainstream that he kind of gets a pass for catching a couple Oscar nods. Despite none of his films making any money, he had a couple years where he kind of caught the zeitgeist, but the current definition of David Lynch is just that he's "weird". If it weren't for Twin Peaks, he would probably be relatively unknown, actually. That said, he's one of my all-time favorite filmmakers, so it might be a bit of indulgence on my part to include him.

Looking over Harmony Korine, he was put on when his filmography was stuff like Kids and Gummo. Looking at his newer stuff, like Spring Breakers, I think I might agree. He's becoming just a marginal mainstream creator. His weirder earlier stuff is still eligible even if he is removed from the safe list.
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David Lynch was held off the list forever for just that reason but he finally entered as a Cult director. His stuff is so consistently and aggressively non-mainstream that he kind of gets a pass for catching a couple Oscar nods. Despite none of his films making any money, he had a couple years where he kind of caught the zeitgeist, but the current definition of David Lynch is just that he's "weird". If it weren't for Twin Peaks, he would probably be relatively unknown, actually. That said, he's one of my all-time favorite filmmakers, so it might be a bit of indulgence on my part to include him.

Looking over Harmony Korine, he was put on when his filmography was stuff like Kids and Gummo. Looking at his newer stuff, like Spring Breakers, I think I might agree. He's becoming just a marginal mainstream creator. His weirder earlier stuff is still eligible even if he is removed from the safe list.
Good stuff. I love Lynch, too. Been into him since Blue Velvet. I didn't want to discourage his inclusion too much. I think you make a good point. The only thing is that when you consider The Elephant Man and The Straight Story. But the "cult" status is a perfect distinction. I think that same argument could likely be made for Korine, who has had some pretty off base stuff. I think if John Waters is here, then he is probably fine.

Thanks for the indulgence, I was really just curious as to how are former justifications played out. I think M. Night is the one that makes more sense to excise.
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I'd even argue that The Elephant Man is not too far removed from the Lynch oeuvre. It's a surreal (at times) black & white film with art direction and sound design that rival Eraserhead and his early short films, and the lead actor is one of the most deformed humans in history, which is a theme that carries through most of his other films with supporting characters (being deformed or otherwise disturbing). The baby in Eraserhead, the Baron in Dune, Frank Booth (not physically, but psychically)in Blue Velvet, Willem Defoe's character in Wild at Heart, the Dwarf in Twin Peaks Fire Walk With Me, Robert Blake in Lost Highway, Mr. Roque in Mulholland Drive, the Rabbits in Inland Empire. And it's a love story! (kind of)

I had a book when I was a kid called "Very Special People" by Fredrick Drimmer about human oddities and it had a chapter on Joseph Merrick, so I was dying to see The Elephant Man when it came out (I was 10-11). I got into Dune when I heard he was going to make it, and then Danny Peary's Cult Movies book had me dying to see Eraserhead, which I finally got to in the mid-80s just after seeing Dune. I actually hated Blue Velvet first time I saw it, but second viewing I fell in love with it. Too hyped, I guess. I'm rewatching Twin Peaks, now. Yep, love me some David Lynch.

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I'm rewatching Twin Peaks, now. Yep, love me some David Lynch.
My favorite Lynch experience. I have seen it many, many times. Probably memorized some episodes. In one of the revised editions of J. Hoberman's MINIGHT MOVIES book, he acknowledges that when the series moved to its 10pm time slot on Saturday nights in season 2 (11pm here in my neck of Canada) it was like experiencing a midnight movie in our homes at night. I often made them communal experiences, especially during rewatches. Great stuff and always something new to discover.
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Linda Blair isn't on the Safe List?
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Linda Blair isn't on the Safe List?
If not, she needs to be.

Also Nicolas Cage. This guy is Mr. DTV right now. He has another B movie out this week called Vengeance: A Love Story. Now, there is a point this clearly starts for him, but I'm telling you...he is prolific in the trash realm these days and he crosses many genres in there. He even hits it early on in his career. Even a Lynch picture in there.

This guy needs to be safed somehow, with some discretion toward the titles that are chosen.

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Yeah, surprised she missed it. I only see one title that is questionable and that's the Exorcist. Do we have any precedent for including The Exorcist? Exorcist ripoffs are allowed, but I think The Exorcist should probably be excluded.

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If not, she needs to be.

Also Nicolas Cage. This guy is Mr. DTV right now. He has another B movie out this week called Vengeance: A Love Story. Now, there is a point this clearly starts for him, but I'm telling you...he is prolific in the trash realm these days and he crosses many genres in there. He even hits it early on in his career. Even a Lynch picture in there.

This guy needs to be safed somehow, with some discretion toward the titles that are chosen.
Nick Cage is tough. His resume since 2009 is pretty much ideal for this challenge, but the first 27 years of his career is generally respectable if not outright A-list. We can have a Nick Cage category of "respected actors fallen on hard times," perhaps. This would be for films by once respected actors who appeared late in their careers on "Poverty Row." Dennis Hopper, Malcolm McDowell, etc. who ended (ending) their careers making schlock. This would also include Joan Crawford's Trog, Veronica Lake in Flesh Feast, Michael Caine in Jaws 4, Richard Burton in Exorcist 2, Marlon Brando in Dr Moreau, Faye Dunaway in Duston Checks In, and so on. Maybe another companion category for embarrassing early appearances in a career. Matthew McConaughey and Renee Zellwegger in Texas Chainsaw Next Gen, Mila Kunis in American Psycho 2, and so on.
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We can have a Nick Cage category of "respected actors fallen on hard times," perhaps. This would be for films by once respected actors who appeared late in their careers on "Poverty Row." Dennis Hopper, Malcolm McDowell, etc. who ended (ending) their careers making schlock. This would also include Joan Crawford's Trog, Veronica Lake in Flesh Feast, Michael Caine in Jaws 4, Richard Burton in Exorcist 2, Marlon Brando in Dr Moreau, Faye Dunaway in Duston Checks In, and so on. Maybe another companion category for embarrassing early appearances in a career. Matthew McConaughey and Renee Zellwegger in Texas Chainsaw Next Gen, Mila Kunis in American Psycho 2, and so on.
Makes sense as a category. It is pretty hard to safe list people who have won Oscars, when you think of it. With Cage, it's almost like another actor assumed his career.
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OK, I added a new category to the checklist. Paycheck films. It seems such a ripe category, I put it down for 3 films.
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Old 03-27-17, 06:33 PM   #42
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I like how you used the title screen for an upcoming movie on B Movie TV for the picture in your list, Dimension X.
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I bet I see that "feature presentation" clip at least a half dozen times every day. All the good Roku channels use it.

I got it from YouTube, then grabbed the "Restricted" cartoon cat, and then looked for Dimension Pictures and found a clip that already had all three together (it's from Tarantino's Death Proof), so that made it easier.

I just watched the first "feature presentation" clip I downloaded before deleting it, and it's the exact same version B-Movie TV uses, with those two annoying black spots on the "R" in presentation. So, you were almost right.

Speaking of good Roku channels, I might as well plug my three favorites. All three are free 24/7 streaming movie channels, uncut and uninterrupted.

B-Movie TV - has the best variety and fewest repeats. Movies start on the even hours. You can safely skip filler between the movies, or watch it once and skip it the rest of the week. They don't have a guide, but they've started to hint at what's on in the evenings on their Facebook page (without giving the actual titles), and they have set times during the week for certain genres.

Shockwerks TV - is mostly horror and sci-fi movies. They also start on the even hours. They usually start a few minutes later than B-Movie TV, so if you've seen what B-Movie TV is showing, turn to this one. Filler is sometimes short horror films, sometimes trailers, it repeats throughout the week too. They've started hinting at their evening schedule on Facebook also.

Bizarre TV - mostly horror and sci-fi movies, but they'll throw in some other stuff now and then (they usually have horror host shows on weekends). Movies start on odd hours (actually about fifteen or so minutes after the hour, following a series of drive-in ads and trailers). Movies play in twelve hour blocks and are repeated for a few days. For example, right now they're showing Island of Death (1976), which I've seen before, and am half-watching, so if I wanted to actually watch it, I could tune in at 7:15 am or pm tomorrow to see it in it's entirety.

Picture quality on all three can be all over the place, depending on the source for the movie (but B-Movie TV, since they show more oddball stuff, is more likely to have rough video quality). I've seen stuff sourced from DVDs (with the company logo), LDs (with Asian subtitles), VHS (with tracking problems), etc. If you really are into these type of films, you've probably seen this kind of stuff before on an odd movie you could only download somewhere or maybe watch on YouTube, so it won't seem too odd to you.

Even if you don't like the idea of watching a random flick, give it a try. It can become addictive. It's kind of like opening presents at Christmas. They're not all great, but sometimes you get some pretty cool stuff you weren't expecting, or had never even heard of before.

Note: All three channels are NSFW. Even between films.

Here's an idea of what they show (mostly B-Movie TV) from my Action Challenge list (so these are just the "action," "crime," and "war" flicks):
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Teen-Age Jail Bait (1973)
Blackout (Midnight Heat) (1996)
Quick (1993)
Warrior of the Lost World (1983)
Golden Girl (Karate Girl, Karateci Kiz) (1974)
Penitentiary (1979)
One Man Force (1989)
The Black Cobra 2 (1989)
Return Fire: Jungle Wolf II (1988)
Black Cobra 3 (Black Cobra 3: The Manila Connection) (1990)
The Lama Avenger (Three Avengers, Da chu tou) (1979)
C.I.A. Code Name: Alexa (1992)
Velocity Trap (1999)
Cold Blood (Das Amulett des Todes) (1975)
Demolition High (1996)
Neon City (1991)
No Dead Heroes (1986)
Fist of Glory (1991)
Game of Death II (Si wang ta) (1981)
Enter the Eagles (Gwan geun see dam, And Now You're Dead) (1998)
The Blue Knight: "Pilot" (1975)
Apocalypse Mercenaries (Mercenari dell'apocalisse) (1987)
The Clones of Bruce Lee (Shen wei san meng long) (1980) (they showed a really shitty copy of this)
Tough to Kill (Duri a morire) (1979)
Hell's Heroes (Eroi dell'inferno) (1987)
Programmed to Kill (The Retaliator) (1987)
Angel 4: Undercover (1994)
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I saw someone suggest removing the format category on the checklist for Horror challenge. Think we still need it? Most of my viewings are either Blu-ray, DVD, TV/streaming, downloads. I usually keep note of the format or source in my list, but does it need to be in the checklist?
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I saw someone suggest removing the format category on the checklist for Horror challenge. Think we still need it? Most of my viewings are either Blu-ray, DVD, TV/streaming, downloads. I usually keep note of the format or source in my list, but does it need to be in the checklist?
Yeah, I'd vote to remove it. I will usually list the format anyway, but I don't think it's a very interesting checklist item.
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Here's an inspired article on one of this challenge's true legends. He's also got to be among the leading man for our new checklist category of "paycheck movies"

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I noticed that unlike the october horror challenge there is no 30 film subset for the drive in challenge. Has there been any consideration of adding one? not trying to over complicate things, i was just curious.
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Since Mill Creek is on the safe list, can Arrow Films be added?
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Here's an inspired article on one of this challenge's true legends. He's also got to be among the leading man for our new checklist category of "paycheck movies"

https://www.pastemagazine.com/articl...en-seagal.html
How's this for a paycheck movie? I Am Wrath. There's been an effort to get some of that sweet, sweet Hollywood money in Ohio so they've been promoting filming here. The Avengers was films partially in Cleveland. Columbus got I Am Wrath. I was not aware how far John Travolta had fallen so quickly. This was a direct to DVD feature TURNED DOWN by Nick Cage. It's so funny. It actually takes place here in Columbus, which I had no idea was such a cesspool of violence and corruption and decay. 11% on Rotten Tomatoes. Joe Bob says check it out.

Paycheck movies don't necessarily need to be end of career clunkers. Anything that is obviously something done just for the paycheck or vacation can be eligible. Michael Caine has quite a few of those under his belt. Jaws 4 was because it included a trip to the Caribbean. He also did The Swarm, Beyond the Poseidon Adventure, Blame it on Rio, etc. that were all paycheck movies. Then there's Lawrence Olivier who outright admitted he did Inchon for the check. "People ask me why I'm playing in this picture. The answer is simple. Money, dear boy. I'm like a vintage wine. You have to drink me quickly before I turn sour. I'm almost used up now and I can feel the end coming. That's why I'm taking money now. I've got nothing to leave my family but the money I can make from films. Nothing is beneath me if it pays well. I've earned the right to damn well grab whatever I can in the time I've got left."

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I noticed that unlike the october horror challenge there is no 30 film subset for the drive in challenge. Has there been any consideration of adding one? not trying to over complicate things, i was just curious.
It could be done, but I think the checklist is difficult enough to complete. This is a fun bunch of genres, but I couldn't expect everyone to watch a '70s porn, a Nunsploitation film, or a Mondo film, so we have free spots for the checklist. Even with the free spots only a handful have ever completed it. I think I only did once or twice, myself. I figure the checklist is a guideline for the genres. It's actually kind of fun to try to hit them all (thanks Cinemageddon and Youtube), but I have no problem if someone wants to just watch Blaxploitation and Kung Fu movies all month.

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Originally Posted by The Man with the Golden Doujinshi View Post
Since Mill Creek is on the safe list, can Arrow Films be added?
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