Sony introduces new Made on demand program with initial 100 movies

g · 09-09-10, 07:44 PM

http://www.sonypictures.com/homevide...ms/?filter=mod

Htf forum also shows new program. I am not a fan personally of MOD but I would like Mickey One. Although I could just record off tcm.

kstublen · 09-09-10, 07:58 PM

And, what do you know? $20 per title. Big shock there. These studios need to drop these titles to at least $15, if not lower if they are to be taken seriously.

laserdogg · 09-09-10, 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by g

http://www.sonypictures.com/homevide...ms/?filter=mod

Htf forum also shows new program. I am not a fan personally of MOD but I would like Mickey One. Although I could just record off tcm.

...and the end of my collecting obsession gets closer...

Can't get myself to buy these MOD, DVD-R or whatever they call them.

EdTheRipper · 09-09-10, 10:16 PM

I'd be in for Hot Stuff and Nightwing.

NoirFan · 09-09-10, 10:22 PM

Another nail.

ben12 · 09-10-10, 08:51 AM

Is this a confusing cover?

NoirFan · 09-10-10, 09:44 AM

YES! It is. I guess this means the end of the Martini Movies line, as I Never Sang for My Father was originally announced as a title in that series.

Guru Askew · 09-10-10, 10:43 AM

I've always held out hope that "Neighbors" was weird enough and had an interesting-enough trainwreck production to warrant a Criterion release (if Sony would ever release more than "Bottle Rocket" to Criterion) but at this point I'd settle for it becoming availability through this MOD program.

marty888 · 09-10-10, 04:35 PM

MICKEY ONE ...... I waiting in vain through the VHS years for this to show up on home video .... saw it with an enthusiastic audience two years ago at Museum of Modern Art ..... and finally!

Chrisedge · 09-10-10, 05:09 PM

Would love "Repeat Performance" 1947 Film Noir to come up on one of these. Sony controls it, but its from MGM so it might be stuck in the no release zone forever...

orangerunner · 09-10-10, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by kstublen

And, what do you know? $20 per title. Big shock there. These studios need to drop these titles to at least $15, if not lower if they are to be taken seriously.

I can understand why they want $20 per title since they are low volume titles made one at a time. All things made as a short run or as a one-off are relatively high priced.

When you press 10,000 DVDs and 10,000 trap sheets, the cost per unit is obviously going to be considerably cheaper.

Spottedfeather · 09-10-10, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by laserdogg

...and the end of my collecting obsession gets closer...

Can't get myself to buy these MOD, DVD-R or whatever they call them.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with MOD. I'm sick and tired of people complaining about it. There's NOTHING wrong with it. Other than Sony offering movies that no one's ever heard of before, it's an awesome idea. I just wish Sony would put out The Night That Panicked America, about the War Of The Worlds radio show.

soop · 09-10-10, 07:52 PM

If they make The Hellstrom Chronicles or Warlords of Atlantis available, I may just have to give in and try these.

laserdogg · 09-10-10, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Spottedfeather

There is absolutely nothing wrong with MOD. I'm sick and tired of people complaining about it. There's NOTHING wrong with it. Other than Sony offering movies that no one's ever heard of before, it's an awesome idea. I just wish Sony would put out The Night That Panicked America, about the War Of The Worlds radio show.

Not complaining, and certainly not against anything that gets the studios to release obscure, rare material....that said, I'm not paying those prices for any of them and there have been a few I would buy day 1 if released the normal way.

...anyway, been collecting for so long that any excuse to taper off is welcome.

Doc Moonlight · 09-10-10, 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by marty888

MICKEY ONE ...... I waiting in vain through the VHS years for this to show up on home video .... saw it with an enthusiastic audience two years ago at Museum of Modern Art ..... and finally!

If you had had a laserdisc player, you wouldn't have had to wait in vain during the VHS years

mdnitoil · 09-10-10, 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Spottedfeather

There is absolutely nothing wrong with MOD. I'm sick and tired of people complaining about it. There's NOTHING wrong with it. Other than Sony offering movies that no one's ever heard of before, it's an awesome idea. I just wish Sony would put out The Night That Panicked America, about the War Of The Worlds radio show.

Outside of the fact that they're expensive and of lower quality than pressed discs, you're right. I'm sick and tired of people trying to tell me to stop bitching when I know I'm getting ripped off. For the record, my definition of getting ripped off is being charged premium prices for substandard product. MOD programs at these prices perfectly fit that description for me.

Alan Smithee · 09-10-10, 09:57 PM

Plus these don't make a good case (pun intended) for buying legitimate product vs. making illegal copies. I'd buy these if they were titles I REALLY wanted, but I'd grumble about it and if I had to choose between that or another title on REAL DVD at the same price, that'd get chosen.

Zen Peckinpah · 09-11-10, 01:14 AM

I must say, a lot of the covers are excellent for using original poster art.

The Reaper · 09-11-10, 07:43 AM

There's a few I'd pick up for $10, if there's ever a sale. Soul Of A Monster looks interesting.

Jigen75 · 09-11-10, 04:43 PM

I still don't get this made on demand stuff. Okay I guess it keeps them from having to store inventory. But can't they just make 1000 of each title and then repress them if they need them? You could press the discs and print the covers and then assemble them as orders come in. That really doesn't take much space and its way better than a burned disc.

JerryKILL · 09-11-10, 05:29 PM

Depends on (1) the return policy, and (2) sale prices. This is based on my experiences with the Warner Archive discs. I've got a couple of shelfs full, nearly 100, and the defective rate is right around 1/10. However, Warner is very lenient with returns so I check discs right away and return if necessary. I recently returned a 5-month-old purchase with no questions asked. As for prices, WB has enough sales that if you are patient and smart with coupons you can usually pick up what you want for less than $10. It's going to be wait and see how Sony handles these two factors before I jump on board. MGM has failed due to quality issues, and Universal because of prices, though I'm still holding out for a Universal sale as their quality is supposedly good.

rmw650 · 09-11-10, 07:00 PM

Just not a fan of this MOD or CreateSpace format...to me, it just seems half-assed and not enough effort is being put into provifing proper care for the materials and for them to justify charging twenty a pop for such a disc, I'll pass.

Chicken Warrior · 09-11-10, 09:49 PM

I can understand why people hate the priced of on-demand discs but i don't think it's up to the publishers - i'm fairly certain their net return on these is lower than with standard discs. Why do they do it? Very simple - zero risk. Even a run of 1000 has risk attatched because of the up-front costs of inventory, shipping, etc. When a third party handlez that stuff of course the price is going up & the profit margin down. My only issue with it is that dvd-rs will probably only last 10 years, versus 30-80 for pressed.

Mao · 09-11-10, 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Guru Askew

I've always held out hope that "Neighbors" was weird enough and had an interesting-enough trainwreck production to warrant a Criterion release (if Sony would ever release more than "Bottle Rocket" to Criterion) but at this point I'd settle for it becoming availability through this MOD program.

"Neighbors"!

I'm still wondering why this misunderstood classic hasn't been given the treatment it deserves. I picked up the overseas version about a year ago.

I say, there's nothing wrong with MOD. If it's the only way to get something you just know you're never going to see on any other digital format, what's the problem?

orangerunner · 09-12-10, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Jigen75

I still don't get this made on demand stuff. Okay I guess it keeps them from having to store inventory. But can't they just make 1000 of each title and then repress them if they need them? You could press the discs and print the covers and then assemble them as orders come in. That really doesn't take much space and its way better than a burned disc.

There is some risk with burning 1000 copies of a title that may only sell a handful of copies. When you think they have a catalogue of 40-50 different titles, that's 40,000-50,000 pressed discs sitting around along with trapsheets printed.

Some titles may prove to have been worth running 1000 pressed copies but the majority may not.

09-09-10, 07:44 PM	#1
g DVD Talk Platinum Edition Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 3,443	Sony introduces new Made on demand program with initial 100 movies http://www.sonypictures.com/homevide...ms/?filter=mod Htf forum also shows new program. I am not a fan personally of MOD but I would like Mickey One. Although I could just record off tcm.

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kstublen DVD Talk Limited Edition Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Florida Posts: 7,112	Re: Sony introduces new Made on demand program with initial 100 movies And, what do you know? $20 per title. Big shock there. These studios need to drop these titles to at least $15, if not lower if they are to be taken seriously. __________________ My Media Collection On Google Docs My DVD & Blu-ray Collection At DVD Aficionado ॐ Looney Tunes & Merrie Melodies on DVD: The Official Thread

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EdTheRipper DVD Talk Legend Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Rhode Island Posts: 11,019	Re: Sony introduces new Made on demand program with initial 100 movies I'd be in for Hot Stuff and Nightwing.

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NoirFan DVD Talk Legend Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Nightmare Alley Posts: 17,114	Re: Sony introduces new Made on demand program with initial 100 movies YES! It is. I guess this means the end of the Martini Movies line, as I Never Sang for My Father was originally announced as a title in that series. __________________ DVDAf "If you want something done right, you have to live in the past." - Bruce Eric Kaplan 2012 Horror Challenge

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Guru Askew Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 829	Re: Sony introduces new Made on demand program with initial 100 movies I've always held out hope that "Neighbors" was weird enough and had an interesting-enough trainwreck production to warrant a Criterion release (if Sony would ever release more than "Bottle Rocket" to Criterion) but at this point I'd settle for it becoming availability through this MOD program.

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marty888 DVD Talk Legend Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Times Square Posts: 12,102	Re: Sony introduces new Made on demand program with initial 100 movies MICKEY ONE ...... I waiting in vain through the VHS years for this to show up on home video .... saw it with an enthusiastic audience two years ago at Museum of Modern Art ..... and finally! __________________ *Sex is nature's way of providing each and every one of us with a free home entertainment system.* My DVD List at DVD Aficionado

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Chrisedge DVD Talk Limited Edition Join Date: Jun 1999 Location: Part of the Left-Wing Conspiracy Posts: 5,792	Re: Sony introduces new Made on demand program with initial 100 movies Would love "Repeat Performance" 1947 Film Noir to come up on one of these. Sony controls it, but its from MGM so it might be stuck in the no release zone forever... __________________ DVDTalk Member #1758 since: 06-09-99 I Hate Blockbuster chrisedge.com My first post I can find here

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soop Member Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 172	Re: Sony introduces new Made on demand program with initial 100 movies If they make The Hellstrom Chronicles or Warlords of Atlantis available, I may just have to give in and try these.

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Alan Smithee DVD Talk Reviewer Join Date: Oct 1999 Location: USA Posts: 3,561	Re: Sony introduces new Made on demand program with initial 100 movies Plus these don't make a good case (pun intended) for buying legitimate product vs. making illegal copies. I'd buy these if they were titles I REALLY wanted, but I'd grumble about it and if I had to choose between that or another title on REAL DVD at the same price, that'd get chosen.

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Zen Peckinpah DVD Talk Gold Edition Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 2,889	Re: Sony introduces new Made on demand program with initial 100 movies I must say, a lot of the covers are excellent for using original poster art. __________________ "The next time the motherfucker call, tell him I said suck my dick. I don't give a fuck, whatever the fuck make the people laugh, say that shit. Do the people laugh when you say what you say? I said, 'Yes.' He said, 'do you get paid?' I said, 'Yes.' He said well tell Bill I said have a Coke and a smile and shut the fuck up! The Jello puddin'-eating motherfucker!"

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The Reaper Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Macon, MO Posts: 880	Re: Sony introduces new Made on demand program with initial 100 movies There's a few I'd pick up for $10, if there's ever a sale. Soul Of A Monster looks interesting.

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Jigen75 Member Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 242	Re: Sony introduces new Made on demand program with initial 100 movies I still don't get this made on demand stuff. Okay I guess it keeps them from having to store inventory. But can't they just make 1000 of each title and then repress them if they need them? You could press the discs and print the covers and then assemble them as orders come in. That really doesn't take much space and its way better than a burned disc.

09-11-10, 05:29 PM	#21
JerryKILL Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 338	Re: Sony introduces new Made on demand program with initial 100 movies Depends on (1) the return policy, and (2) sale prices. This is based on my experiences with the Warner Archive discs. I've got a couple of shelfs full, nearly 100, and the defective rate is right around 1/10. However, Warner is very lenient with returns so I check discs right away and return if necessary. I recently returned a 5-month-old purchase with no questions asked. As for prices, WB has enough sales that if you are patient and smart with coupons you can usually pick up what you want for less than $10. It's going to be wait and see how Sony handles these two factors before I jump on board. MGM has failed due to quality issues, and Universal because of prices, though I'm still holding out for a Universal sale as their quality is supposedly good. __________________ Film Blog Posters, trailers, reviews

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rmw650 DVD Talk Special Edition Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,169	Re: Sony introduces new Made on demand program with initial 100 movies Just not a fan of this MOD or CreateSpace format...to me, it just seems half-assed and not enough effort is being put into provifing proper care for the materials and for them to justify charging twenty a pop for such a disc, I'll pass.

09-11-10, 09:49 PM	#23
Chicken Warrior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Canada Posts: 125	Re: Sony introduces new Made on demand program with initial 100 movies I can understand why people hate the priced of on-demand discs but i don't think it's up to the publishers - i'm fairly certain their net return on these is lower than with standard discs. Why do they do it? Very simple - zero risk. Even a run of 1000 has risk attatched because of the up-front costs of inventory, shipping, etc. When a third party handlez that stuff of course the price is going up & the profit margin down. My only issue with it is that dvd-rs will probably only last 10 years, versus 30-80 for pressed.