Star Wars: The Clone Wars Complete S1 03 Nov 2009

[milo bloom]

http://www.tvshowsondvd.com/news/Clo...Season-1/12312


Seven episodes will have directors cuts, on standard DVD and BR.


I've only seen the first movie feature, but am looking forward to watching the rest of this.

[milo bloom]

Okay, I hate bumping my own thing, but I was wondering about when this would be placed for pre-order. I'm not seeing it on DeepDiscount yet, and wondered if anyone knows the usual amount of time before street date that they're available to order?

[trammel]

Have any store exclusives been announced?

[VoreLord]

Is the movie part of this too? I seem to remember reading that the Clone Wars movie was actually the first three or four episodes put together or something?

[cinemaphile]

Originally Posted by VoreLord

Is the movie part of this too? I seem to remember reading that the Clone Wars movie was actually the first three or four episodes put together or something?

They did take the first few episodes that were in production, add some bridging material, and turn it into the movie before the show ever aired. However, as a result, they are no longer considered Season 1 episodes. The set does NOT include the movie. Just the Cartoon Network-aired episodes.

[hindolio]

Originally Posted by VoreLord

Is the movie part of this too? I seem to remember reading that the Clone Wars movie was actually the first three or four episodes put together or something?

if you are referring to the clone wars volume 1 and 2 dvds, sold separately and now oop (but cheaply available), then no. they actually really have nothing to do with the clone wars tv series.

fyi, genndy tartakovsky did the v1 and v2 dvds originally as webisodes. they were popular methinks, so they were compiled into dvds. they bridge episode 2 and episode 3 of the original prequel movie trilogy. my memory is kinda fuzzy, but i think that is somewhat accurate. i hope that makes sense and helps

[Jedi Master 33]

Originally Posted by hindolio

if you are referring to the clone wars volume 1 and 2 dvds, sold separately and now oop (but cheaply available), then no. they actually really have nothing to do with the clone wars tv series.

fyi, genndy tartakovsky did the v1 and v2 dvds originally as webisodes. they were popular methinks, so they were compiled into dvds. they bridge episode 2 and episode 3 of the original prequel movie trilogy. my memory is kinda fuzzy, but i think that is somewhat accurate. i hope that makes sense and helps

No, he is talking about the movie that came out in theatres last Augest. And no, it's not included.

[VoreLord]

Originally Posted by hindolio

fyi, genndy tartakovsky did the v1 and v2 dvds originally as webisodes. they were popular methinks, so they were compiled into dvds.

Those originally aired on Cartoon Network as well (and were much better than the current Clone Wars imo).

Thanks for the answer cinemaphile & Jedi Master 33!

Not to get off on a Start Wars bashing rant here, but I think if I was writing the Clone Wars as a series I wouldn't center it around Anakin (blasphemy I know). He's not a very interesting character. The prequels fail for me because I never liked the guy, so I never developed any emotional investment in what happened to him.

[Jedi Master 33]

IMO I don't hate the prequels{I actually really like Episode 3} but Anakin should not have been a whiny little b***h.

[Abob Teff]

Originally Posted by milo bloom

Okay, I hate bumping my own thing ...

Get a girlfriend ... or hire a hooker at least.

[milo bloom]

Originally Posted by Jedi Master 33

IMO I don't hate the prequels{I actually really like Episode 3} but Anakin should not have been a whiny little b***h.

While it does make it hard to accept the idea of Anakin as a hero with him being all whiny, if he were *too* good then it would conversely be hard to accept the idea of him ever falling to the Dark Side.

Originally Posted by Abob Teff

Get a girlfriend ... or hire a hooker at least.

I'll have you know I have a wife...currently playing an MMORPG so maybe I need to look into those options


Still curious about trammel's question, wouldn't mind another steelbook to match my movie one.

[trammel]

Packaging photos:

http://www.starwars.com/theclonewars...023/index.html

I hope the discs are not stored in cardboard slots in the back of the book that will scratch the discs.

Still no word on store exclusives.

[milo bloom]

If you look at the open book laying flat, the left side cover looks like it has a plastic tray with hubs, I'm guessing that's where the discs go.

And since this is the regular release, doesn't look like there's really a need for an exclusive.




OT: just drooling at the thought of each of the original films in a multi-disc set like this with a book on each film...

[BlooQKazoo]

Yeah that definitely looks like what they did with the exclusive Target packaging for Indy 4. The DVD will probably have 2 discs overlapping at the front and 2 at the back of the book and the Blu having 2 in front, 1 in back.

[erlong]

Originally Posted by hindolio

if you are referring to the clone wars volume 1 and 2 dvds, sold separately and now oop (but cheaply available), then no. they actually really have nothing to do with the clone wars tv series.

fyi, genndy tartakovsky did the v1 and v2 dvds originally as webisodes. they were popular methinks, so they were compiled into dvds. they bridge episode 2 and episode 3 of the original prequel movie trilogy. my memory is kinda fuzzy, but i think that is somewhat accurate. i hope that makes sense and helps

So is there previously released material in this set?
Using the Clone Wars movie, v1 and v2 dvds, and this set, what's the chronological order of the dvd's then? I'm confused.

[resinrats]

The tartakovsky disks 1 & 2 are a totally different show, not a part of the series being released next week. Other than those alse dealing with the Clone Wars, they have nothing to do with this series.

[milo bloom]

Tartakovsky's series "Clone Wars" has often been called a "proof of concept", presumably to see if there was any interest in Clone War stories*, and if they could be told well enough in a TV format to even bother with. There also supposedly wasn't even going to be a second volume, until the first set of shorts was so well received. Also, the two volumes together pretty much cover the whole three year span of the war**, the first one picks up fairly soon after AOTC, the second volume finishes the cliffhanger, then jumps ahead to near the end of the war, in fact when Anakin and Obi-Wan get into their fighters, that scene ties directly into the beginning of ROTS.

The new series "The Clone Wars" (notice the "the"?) will cover the same war, but with the episodic format can take more time to explore what went on. The first movie that was released by itself was put together from the storylines of the first three episodes, but is not included in this boxset. Which I'm personally glad about since I ponied up the extra dough for the steelbook version.

And to preempt the wiseguy that will come in here and complain about how many stories there are to tell about one war, I submit to you: just how many movies about World War 2 have we seen?


*which means somebody at Lucasfilm wasn't paying attention to the legions of fans who have been wondering about them ever since they were mentioned in Ep IV.

** Only 3 years, yet it's taken us 8 years in... nevermind.

[erlong]

Originally Posted by milo bloom

Tartakovsky's series "Clone Wars" has often been called a "proof of concept", presumably to see if there was any interest in Clone War stories*, and if they could be told well enough in a TV format to even bother with. There also supposedly wasn't even going to be a second volume, until the first set of shorts was so well received. Also, the two volumes together pretty much cover the whole three year span of the war**, the first one picks up fairly soon after AOTC, the second volume finishes the cliffhanger, then jumps ahead to near the end of the war, in fact when Anakin and Obi-Wan get into their fighters, that scene ties directly into the beginning of ROTS.

The new series "The Clone Wars" (notice the "the"?) will cover the same war, but with the episodic format can take more time to explore what went on. The first movie that was released by itself was put together from the storylines of the first three episodes, but is not included in this boxset. Which I'm personally glad about since I ponied up the extra dough for the steelbook version.

And to preempt the wiseguy that will come in here and complain about how many stories there are to tell about one war, I submit to you: just how many movies about World War 2 have we seen?


*which means somebody at Lucasfilm wasn't paying attention to the legions of fans who have been wondering about them ever since they were mentioned in Ep IV.

** Only 3 years, yet it's taken us 8 years in... nevermind.

So where do all of the Clone Wars, The Clone Wars, and Clone Wars movie fit into the timeline? After Phantom Menace, I'm a bit lost and confused until Revenge of the Sith, New Hope, etc.

[hindolio]

Originally Posted by milo bloom

Tartakovsky's series "Clone Wars" has often been called a "proof of concept", presumably to see if there was any interest in Clone War stories*, and if they could be told well enough in a TV format to even bother with...

imho, the success of the "proof of concept" had nothing to do with the idea of the or The clone wars stories themselves, but rather tartakovsky himself. and if you dont believe that, watch samurai jack. if you still dont think so after, then ill have nothing to do with you.*

but again imho, stories about clone wars is a natural and logical extension of the star wars saga. the issue i have with the current animated tv series is that they are just a lil too children oriented for my tastes.**

* this is a joke in good nature

** yesh, animation is generally audienced by younger ages and are made with that in mine. but then again, watch samurai jack and speak to me again

Originally Posted by erlong

So where do all of the Clone Wars, The Clone Wars, and Clone Wars movie fit into the timeline? After Phantom Menace, I'm a bit lost and confused until Revenge of the Sith, New Hope, etc.

ill try to summarize it concisely.

all of the animated clone wars series takes place chronologically between episodes 2 and 3 (attack of the clones and revenge of the sith, the live-action movies).

these two are just a bridge to generally show what happened in between episodes 2 and 3:



this one is a feature-length animated movie (straight-to-dvd) about the beginning of the clone wars in detail:


this one continues from the feature-length animate movie as a tv series and in detail:


hope that helps

[erlong]

Originally Posted by hindolio

imho, the success of the "proof of concept" had nothing to do with the idea of the or The clone wars stories themselves, but rather tartakovsky himself. and if you dont believe that, watch samurai jack. if you still dont think so after, then ill have nothing to do with you.*

but again imho, stories about clone wars is a natural and logical extension of the star wars saga. the issue i have with the current animated tv series is that they are just a lil too children oriented for my tastes.**

* this is a joke in good nature

** yesh, animation is generally audienced by younger ages and are made with that in mine. but then again, watch samurai jack and speak to me again


ill try to summarize it concisely.

all of the animated clone wars series takes place chronologically between episodes 2 and 3 (attack of the clones and revenge of the sith, the live-action movies).

these two are just a bridge to generally show what happened in between episodes 2 and 3:



this one is a feature-length animated movie (straight-to-dvd) about the beginning of the clone wars in detail:


this one continues from the feature-length animate movie as a tv series and in detail:


hope that helps

Thanks. That does help. I'm trying to line up all of my Star Wars dvd's in chronological order. So goes Phantom Menace, Attack of the Clones, CW movie, CW V1&2, TCW tv show, Revenge of the Sith, and so on, correct? Again, thanks.

[Jedi Master 33]

Originally Posted by hindolio

this one is a feature-length animated movie (straight-to-dvd) about the beginning of the clone wars in detail:

Actually it's not. It came out in theatres in Augest of 08.

[milo bloom]

Originally Posted by hindolio

imho, the success of the "proof of concept" had nothing to do with the idea of the or The clone wars stories themselves, but rather tartakovsky himself. and if you dont believe that, watch samurai jack. if you still dont think so after, then ill have nothing to do with you.*

but again imho, stories about clone wars is a natural and logical extension of the star wars saga. the issue i have with the current animated tv series is that they are just a lil too children oriented for my tastes.**

* this is a joke in good nature

** yesh, animation is generally audienced by younger ages and are made with that in mine. but then again, watch samurai jack and speak to me again

Oh I love me some Jack. Even though I'm picking up this new set up on Tuesday, I'm still flabbergasted Lucas didn't just hand Genndy a blank check with "Clone Wars (fanboy orgasm version)" written on the memo line.

Originally Posted by erlong

Thanks. That does help. I'm trying to line up all of my Star Wars dvd's in chronological order. So goes Phantom Menace, Attack of the Clones, CW movie, CW V1&2, TCW tv show, Revenge of the Sith, and so on, correct? Again, thanks.

Again, the first Clone Wars series starts at the beginning of the war (right at the end of Ep 2, then jumps to right near the end of the war (right before Ep 3). The new series starts a little ways into the war IIRC, and will cover a lot more of the 3 year war.

I guess technically you could put Genndy's CW Vol 1 right after Ep 2, then put all the new CG series DVDs as they come out, then put the CW Vol 2 right before Ep 3.

Personally, I have the "Star Wars Collection 1" case from here http://designpaulchampagne.com/sequels4.html

It's designed to hold 7 standard DVDs, so I have the six movies, plus I transferred the CW Vols 1 and 2 to thin cases, so I have those in the case too. The new series will just go on the shelf after the case with the couple of SW documentary discs I have.

[hindolio]

Originally Posted by milo bloom

Oh I love me some Jack...

that is better

Originally Posted by milo bloom

...I guess technically you could put Genndy's CW Vol 1 right after Ep 2, then put all the new CG series DVDs as they come out, then put the CW Vol 2 right before Ep 3...

that is reasonable.

Originally Posted by Jedi Master 33

Actually it's not. It came out in theatres in Augest of 08.

ack yesh, thanks for the correction D:

[Evan Meadow]

Anyone get this today?

The Best Buy in Scottsdale, Az I ordered it at didn't get any copies in this week and didn't know why. LOL they were just happy I didn't turn into an irate customer unlike everyone else that was there that day.

[Josh-da-man]

Since the two Tartakovsky "Clone Wars" DVDs are out of print, I'm assuming that Lucas has decanonized it and sent it away to the attic with Bea Arthur and Jefferson Starship.