Official Wrestling DVD Discussion Thread - Volume XI

[EdTheRipper]

Originally Posted by DerangedHermit

I think he meant in terms of listings - some sites allow user-submitted content.

I know...I was just teasing

[chuckliddell]

haha man you got me there, real funny

[dillkid]

That WCW match listing doesn't look that good, hopefully the documentray will be good. I would like for them to release a Monday Nitro set.

[chuckliddell]

what other matches would you have liked to see?

[md2810]

Having a look at the matches on the Netflix details for the Rise and Fall of WCW (The Main Event Six Man Tag has been confirmed by SilverVision). Doesn’t look too bad a set (hoping they don’t include some of the possibilities as they have already been released on DVD I tried to put * next to the ones already on other sets).

Here’s what I think some of the matches could be:

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Ric Flair vs. Magnum T.A. (SuperClash 85)
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Sting, Lex Luger & Barry Windham vs. Flair, Arn Anderson & Tully Blanchard (The Main Event - April, 88)
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US Title Match: Barry Windham vs. Dusty Rhodes (Great American Bash - July 10, 88)
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Flair vs. Ricky Steamboat (Chi-Town Rumble) *
Flair vs. Ricky Steamboat (Clash of Champions) *
Flair vs. Ricky Steamboat (WrestleWar) *
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Rock 'n' Roll Express vs. Midnight Express (WrestleWar - February 25, 90)
Rock 'n' Roll Express vs. Midnight Express (Clash of the Champions XI - June 13, 1990)
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Midnight Express vs. Southern Boys (Great American Bash - July 7, 90)
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Steiner Brothers vs. Sting & Luger (SuperBrawl I)
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Sting vs. Big Van Vader (Great American Bash 92)
Sting vs. Big Van Vader (Starrcade 92) *
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Rick Rude vs. Sting (Spring Stampede 94)
Rick Rude vs. Sting (Worldwide - May 94)
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Flair vs. Hogan (Bash at the Beach 94) *
Flair vs. Hogan (Clash of the Champions XVIII)
Flair vs. Hogan (Halloween Havoc 94)
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Ric Flair vs. The Giant (Nitro - March 25, 96)
Ric Flair vs. The Giant (Nitro - Apr 22, 96)
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Rey Mysterio Jr. vs. Dean Malenko (Great American Bash 96) *
Rey Mysterio Jr. vs. Dean Malenko (Nitro - June 17, 96)
Rey Mysterio Jr. vs. Dean Malenko (Nitro - July 8 , 96) *
Rey Mysterio Jr. vs. Dean Malenko (Pro - Aug 10, 96)
Rey Mysterio Jr. vs. Dean Malenko (Clash of the Champions XXXIII)
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Team WCW vs Team n.W.o (Fall Brawl 96) *
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Syxx vs. Eddie Guerrero (Saturday Night - Jan 8, 97)
Syxx vs. Eddie Guerrero (Souled Out 97)
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Guerrero vs. Malenko (Nitro - Feb 10, 97)
Guerrero vs. Malenko (Feb 12, 97)
Guerrero vs. Malenko (Uncensored 97)
Guerrero vs. Malenko (Saturday Night - Jun 28, 97)
Guerrero vs. Malenko (Nitro - Jun 30, 97)
Guerrero vs. Malenko (Starrcade 97) *
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Chris Jericho vs. Juventud Guerrera (SuperBrawl VIII)
Chris Jericho vs. Juventud Guerrera (Nitro - Mar 16, 98)
Chris Jericho vs. Juventud Guerrera (Nitro - Apr 6, 98)
Chris Jericho vs. Juventud Guerrera (Nitro - Apr 20, 98)
Chris Jericho vs. Juventud Guerrera (Saturday Night - May 9, 98)
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Steiner Brothers vs. The Outsiders (Nitro - Jan 12, 98)
Steiner Brothers vs. The Outsiders (Nitro - Feb 9, 98)
Steiner Brothers vs. The Outsiders (SuperBrawl VIII)
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Diamond Dallas Page & Karl Malone vs. Hulk Hogan & Dennis Rodman (Bash at the Beach 98)
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Goldberg vs. Page (Halloween Havoc 98)
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Booker T vs. Lance Storm (Thunder - Nov 15, 00)
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[chuckliddell]

what matches are the best from the flair/steamboat series, can someone post a short list on there greatest matches, maybe a top 3 or 5 list

[chuckliddell]

isnt the one from wrestlewar the best, if so hopefully thats the one on the set from 89

[Aces_High]

Picked up Against All Odds 2009 a week early at FYE for 14.99, also got Lockdown for 14.99 at FYE. Ended up trading in a ton of cd's, got well over $200 in store credit and completed my UFC Collection from 59-93.

[SexualPudding]

Originally Posted by chuckliddell

isnt the one from wrestlewar the best, if so hopefully thats the one on the set from 89

Yes, that's the one a lot of people like the best, but I think I prefer the one from the Chi-Town Rumble in '89. I haven't seen it in a long time, so I'm not even 100% sure if I would think the same today. I did like it better back in '89, though.

[BullGooseLoony]

I find the list disappointing. There's a lot more stuff during the "rise" era than there is the "fall." I personally wanted to see more stuff like '97-01, so to see maybe four matches from '98, no matches from '99, and ONE from 2000 is just sad. Here are some good WCW matches that I would have enjoyed:

-Hulk Hogan vs. Vader (SuperBrawl 5, Uncensored, or Bash at the Beach '95
-Ric Flair vs. Randy Savage - Great American Bash '95
-Ric Flair vs. Sting vs. Lex Luger - Starrcade '95
-The Outsiders vs. Sting & Lex Luger - Hog Wild '96
-Hollywood Hogan vs. Randy Savage - Halloween Havoc '96
-Team NWO vs. Team Piper vs. Team WCW - Uncensored '97
-Roddy Piper vs. Ric Flair - Bash the Beach '97
-Any Savage/DDP Match
-Curt Hennig vs. Ric Flair - World War 3 '97
-Kevin Nash vs. The Giant/Bret Hart vs. Ric Flair - Souled Out '98
-Bret Hart vs. Randy Savage - Slamboree '98
-Sting vs. Goldberg - Nitro, 9/'98
-Ric Flair vs. Hulk Hogan vs. Sting vs. DDP - Spring Stampede '99
-Goldberg vs. Sid Vicious - Halloween Havoc '99
-Ric Flair vs. Terry Funk - SuperBrawl '00
-Hulk Hogan vs. Ric Flair - Uncensored '00
-the match where David Arquette wins the title
-Jeff Jarrett vs. Kevin Nash - Great American Bash '00
-Jeff Jarrett vs. Booker T - Bash at the Beach '00
-Scott Steiner vs. Goldberg - Fall Brawl '00
-Ric Flair - Sting - The Last Nitro

[chuckliddell]

i would of liked to see some of those matches as well, fact is there is only so much you can do on 1 set, how can u put all the important matches from that many years on 2 discs?

they can do a whole set just on the nwo, or nitro, hopefully if this sells well they can release a volume 2 or something similiar to that

but for the space they had to work with this dvd is darn good, not perfect but im happy

[chuckliddell]

booker t vs double j bash at the beach 2000-almost forgot about that match, when hogan walked out these two deserving talents got there chance and put on a great match

[Dave88]

Sting v Ric Flair from The Great American Bash

[Blaze]

Got the Legacy of Stone Cold from HMV for £12.99 today.

Some decent ones on sale there

[dillkid]

Originally Posted by Blaze

Got the Legacy of Stone Cold from HMV for £12.99 today.

Some decent ones on sale there

Yeah, I got the HBK set for £12.99 and the Undertaker & HHH sets for £7.99. Going back there on saturday, hopefully they will have the Bret Hart set on sale.

[sg2386]

Rise and Fall of WCW content posted!

Disc 1

Jim Crockett Promotions

Georgia Championship Wrestling

Mid-Atlantic Championship Wrestling

Black Saturday

The Expansion

Crockett Sells to Turner

Greatest Talent in the World

New Management

Bill Watts Era

Bill Shaw Hires Eric Bischoff

Hulk Hogan Arrives

Nitro Debuts

nWo

Cruiserweights

Goldberg

WCW Ratings Champ

Celebrities

Goldberg vs. Hogan

Mistakes Begin

Vince Russo

A Corporate Merger

McMahon buys WCW

Legacy of WCW

Bonus Features

• Lost in Cleveland

• Bill Watts Defends Himself

• Spam Man

• The Origin of Goldberg

• Bischoff Gives Away RAW Results

Disc 2

$1,000 Challenge Match
Ric Flair vs. Magnum T.A.
NWA World Championship Wrestling – June 15, 1985

Sting, Lex Luger & Barry Windham vs. Ric Flair, Arn Anderson & Tully Blanchard (w/ JJ Dillon)
The Main Event – April 3, 1988

United States Championship Match
Dusty Rhodes vs. Barry Windham
Great American Bash – July 10, 1988

NWA World Heavyweight Championship Match
Ric Flair vs. Ricky ‘The Dragon’ Steamboat
Chi-Town Rumble – February 20, 1989

The Rock ‘n’ Roll Express vs. The Midnight Express
Wrestle War – February 25, 1990

NWA United States Tag Team Championship Match
The Midnight Express vs. The Southern Boys
Great American Bash – July 7, 1990

WCW World Tag Team Championship Match
The Steiner Brothers vs. Sting & Lex Luger
SuperBrawl – May 19, 1991

WCW World Heavyweight Championship Match
Sting vs. Big Van Vader
Great American Bash – July 12, 1992

WCW International World Heavyweight Championship Match
Rick Rude vs. Sting
Spring Stampede – April 17, 1994

WCW World Heavyweight Championship Match
Ric Flair vs. Hulk Hogan
Bash at the Beach – July 17, 1994

Disc 3

WCW World Heavyweight Championship Match
Ric Flair vs. The Giant
Nitro – April 29, 1996

WCW Cruiserweight Championship Match
Rey Mysterio Jr. vs. Dean Malenko
Clash of the Champions XXXIII – August 15, 1996

War Games Match
Team WCW- Sting, Lex Luger, Ric Fair & Arn Anderson vs. Team n.W.o.- Hollywood Hulk Hogan, Kevin Nash, Scott Hall & a Mystery Partner
Fall Brawl – September 15, 1996

United States Championship Ladder Match
Syxx vs. Eddie Guerrero
Souled Out – January 25, 1997

United States Championship No Disqualification Match
Eddie Guerrero vs. Dean Malenko
Uncensored – March 16, 1997

WCW Cruiserweight Championship Title vs. Mask Match
Chris Jericho vs. Juventud Guerrera
SuperBrawl VIII – February 22, 1998

WCW Unified World Tag Team Championship Match
The Steiner Brothers vs. The Outsiders
SuperBrawl VIII – February 22, 1998

Diamond Dallas Page & Karl Malone vs. Hollywood Hulk Hogan & Dennis Rodman
Bash at the Beach – July 12, 1998

WCW World Heavyweight Championship Match
Goldberg vs. Diamond Dallas Page
Halloween Havoc – October 25, 1998

WCW World Heavyweight Championship Match
Booker T vs. Lance Storm
Nitro – August 7, 2000

http://www.silvervision.co.uk/produc...D-3-Discs.html

[Cactus Jack]

Originally Posted by dillkid

Yeah, I got the HBK set for £12.99 and the Undertaker & HHH sets for £7.99. Going back there on saturday, hopefully they will have the Bret Hart set on sale.

Nice, I'll have to check that out on Saturday.

[BullGooseLoony]

Originally Posted by sg2386

Rise and Fall of WCW content posted!

Disc 1

Jim Crockett Promotions

Georgia Championship Wrestling

Mid-Atlantic Championship Wrestling

Black Saturday

The Expansion

Crockett Sells to Turner

Greatest Talent in the World

New Management

Bill Watts Era

Bill Shaw Hires Eric Bischoff

Hulk Hogan Arrives

Nitro Debuts

nWo

Cruiserweights

Goldberg

WCW Ratings Champ

Celebrities

Goldberg vs. Hogan

Mistakes Begin

Vince Russo

A Corporate Merger

McMahon buys WCW

Legacy of WCW

Bonus Features

• Lost in Cleveland

• Bill Watts Defends Himself

• Spam Man

• The Origin of Goldberg

• Bischoff Gives Away RAW Results

Disc 2

$1,000 Challenge Match
Ric Flair vs. Magnum T.A.
NWA World Championship Wrestling – June 15, 1985

Sting, Lex Luger & Barry Windham vs. Ric Flair, Arn Anderson & Tully Blanchard (w/ JJ Dillon)
The Main Event – April 3, 1988

United States Championship Match
Dusty Rhodes vs. Barry Windham
Great American Bash – July 10, 1988

NWA World Heavyweight Championship Match
Ric Flair vs. Ricky ‘The Dragon’ Steamboat
Chi-Town Rumble – February 20, 1989

The Rock ‘n’ Roll Express vs. The Midnight Express
Wrestle War – February 25, 1990

NWA United States Tag Team Championship Match
The Midnight Express vs. The Southern Boys
Great American Bash – July 7, 1990

WCW World Tag Team Championship Match
The Steiner Brothers vs. Sting & Lex Luger
SuperBrawl – May 19, 1991

WCW World Heavyweight Championship Match
Sting vs. Big Van Vader
Great American Bash – July 12, 1992

WCW International World Heavyweight Championship Match
Rick Rude vs. Sting
Spring Stampede – April 17, 1994

WCW World Heavyweight Championship Match
Ric Flair vs. Hulk Hogan
Bash at the Beach – July 17, 1994

Disc 3

WCW World Heavyweight Championship Match
Ric Flair vs. The Giant
Nitro – April 29, 1996

WCW Cruiserweight Championship Match
Rey Mysterio Jr. vs. Dean Malenko
Clash of the Champions XXXIII – August 15, 1996

War Games Match
Team WCW- Sting, Lex Luger, Ric Fair & Arn Anderson vs. Team n.W.o.- Hollywood Hulk Hogan, Kevin Nash, Scott Hall & a Mystery Partner
Fall Brawl – September 15, 1996

United States Championship Ladder Match
Syxx vs. Eddie Guerrero
Souled Out – January 25, 1997

United States Championship No Disqualification Match
Eddie Guerrero vs. Dean Malenko
Uncensored – March 16, 1997

WCW Cruiserweight Championship Title vs. Mask Match
Chris Jericho vs. Juventud Guerrera
SuperBrawl VIII – February 22, 1998

WCW Unified World Tag Team Championship Match
The Steiner Brothers vs. The Outsiders
SuperBrawl VIII – February 22, 1998

Diamond Dallas Page & Karl Malone vs. Hollywood Hulk Hogan & Dennis Rodman
Bash at the Beach – July 12, 1998

WCW World Heavyweight Championship Match
Goldberg vs. Diamond Dallas Page
Halloween Havoc – October 25, 1998

WCW World Heavyweight Championship Match
Booker T vs. Lance Storm
Nitro – August 7, 2000

http://www.silvervision.co.uk/produc...D-3-Discs.html

Alright, that is a disappointing list. It might be worth it for the documentary alone, but I'll want to hear some reviews first; if it's anything new, or revisionist history.

[chuckliddell]

whats wrong with the listing?
its not perfect but i like it
disc 1 and disc 3 are near perfect imo, disc 2 i hate, besides the chi town match im not really into it, and hogan-flair match is already on hogan's dvd, im sure most wcw fans already have hogans dvd

would of liked to see a few matches on disc 2 get replaced by later stuff like

booker t-jeff jarret bash at the beach 2000
sting-flair last match ever on nitro
couple more nwo matches from 96-98

hopefully there is a few extras on it as well

but this will sell huge imo, and maybe they will release a best of wcw with all the stuff they left out, just like what they did with ecw releases

[chuckliddell]

there are only 23 chapters on disc 1, that means each chapter should have the proper amount of time to go over stuff, it should be atleast 2 hours, so thats 12-13 min per chapter which is lots
and put extras on disc 2 and 3 and all is good

[DerangedHermit]

• Spam Man

wtf

[dillkid]

Looking at that list for s second time, I am very excited about this being released. This and the Smackdown! sets will be must buys for true wrestling fans. Although I do agree that the Hulk Hogan Vs Ric Flair match has been seen too many times, and I think if they were to add a WCW Hogan/Flair match, it should have been their Halloween Havoc 1994 Steel Cage match, with Mr.T as referee, or their Uncensored 1999 match. I would have also liked too have seen more from the Sting Vs nWo era, and stuff from 1999- 2001. I would have liked to have seen Sting vs Ric Flair on the last Nitro, and one the Sting vs Vampiro Human Torch match, from (I think) Great American Bash 2000. But it is a must buy just for the documentary.

[BullGooseLoony]

Originally Posted by chuckliddell

whats wrong with the listing?
its not perfect but i like it
disc 1 and disc 3 are near perfect imo, disc 2 i hate, besides the chi town match im not really into it, and hogan-flair match is already on hogan's dvd, im sure most wcw fans already have hogans dvd

would of liked to see a few matches on disc 2 get replaced by later stuff like

booker t-jeff jarret bash at the beach 2000
sting-flair last match ever on nitro
couple more nwo matches from 96-98

hopefully there is a few extras on it as well

but this will sell huge imo, and maybe they will release a best of wcw with all the stuff they left out, just like what they did with ecw releases

The match list doesn't really have any star power. There were quite a few matches with the "big boys" that were worth the hype, and none of them are here. The fact that there are no matches from '99 and only one match from '00 is also a big disappointment.

A lot of these are tag-team matches which they could have put on the tag-team DVD and or cruiserweight stuff, which they could have put on the Rey or Eddie DVDs. I wanted to see more Hogan, Sting, Flair, Luger, Sid Vicious, Scott Hall, Kevin Nash, Goldberg, Scott Steiner, Booker T, Bret Hart, Jeff Jarrett.

[BullGooseLoony]

Originally Posted by dillkid

Looking at that list for s second time, I am very excited about this being released. This and the Smackdown! sets will be must buys for true wrestling fans. Although I do agree that the Hulk Hogan Vs Ric Flair match has been seen too many times, and I think if they were to add a WCW Hogan/Flair match, it should have been their Halloween Havoc 1994 Steel Cage match, with Mr.T as referee, or their Uncensored 1999 match. I would have also liked too have seen more from the Sting Vs nWo era, and stuff from 1999- 2001. I would have liked to have seen Sting vs Ric Flair on the last Nitro, and one the Sting vs Vampiro Human Torch match, from (I think) Great American Bash 2000. But it is a must buy just for the documentary.

Exactly. The inclusion of Hogan/Flair from Halloween Havoc '94, Uncensored '99, Sting vs. Flair, Sting vs. Vamprio would have been real pluses for me.

To me, the best match list this year has been the greatest stars of the 90s, which had a wonderful array of surprises.

[dillkid]

Originally Posted by BullGooseLoony

Exactly. The inclusion of Hogan/Flair from Halloween Havoc '94, Uncensored '99, Sting vs. Flair, Sting vs. Vamprio would have been real pluses for me.

To me, the best match list this year has been the greatest stars of the 90s, which had a wonderful array of surprises.

I agree, that DVD has lots of rare matches.