Hellraiser III Unrated?

JJE-187 · 01-15-09, 01:22 PM

I have a quick question, I know the US Paramount DVD is the R-Rated cut with deleted scenes as ezxtras but I heard the Canadian LGF DVD is the UR cut. Is that true?

Torchur317 · 01-15-09, 01:28 PM

No,I own the Canadian LG release....
It's the same version as the Paramount Pictures Rated-R cut....
Which I believe had a little more than the original DVD added but it's not the full Uncut one.

LosingMyMind · 01-15-09, 01:30 PM

DVDaf says III is uncut in the lament configuration box set. Is that correct?

Torchur317 · 01-15-09, 01:33 PM

Yeah it's available uncut in the U.K. in that set & in a single release I believe....

Giles · 01-15-09, 01:34 PM

the lament configuration box also have commentary tracks exclusive to II and III, oh and DTS sound as well.

LosingMyMind · 01-15-09, 01:49 PM

I really need to buy that box while it's available and affordable. I might get it next week.

Also, I've been looking into the 3 disc release of bloodline and have heard nothing but bad things about it. Does anyone have that release?

SethDLH · 01-15-09, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by LosingMyMind

I really need to buy that box while it's available and affordable. I might get it next week.

Also, I've been looking into the 3 disc release of bloodline and have heard nothing but bad things about it. Does anyone have that release?

There is a 3 disc release for just Bloodline? While I thought the movie was a decent entry into the Hellraiser series (far better then a few of the later releases) it really does not need a multi-disc release

LosingMyMind · 01-15-09, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by SethDLH

There is a 3 disc release for just Bloodline? While I thought the movie was a decent entry into the Hellraiser series (far better then a few of the later releases) it really does not need a multi-disc release

I know, right? It's a german set and includes a workprint of the film as well as other extras. If you go on ebay.de and search for monsterbox, theres one for sale right now for 100 euros.

Mister Peepers · 01-15-09, 03:52 PM

The US one sure didn't take long to go OOP. The cheapest used copy at amazon is around $20.

Julie Walker · 01-15-09, 04:11 PM

The Paramount dvd is not the R rated version despite claiming so on the packaging! The dvd contains the unrated gore footage and the unrated sex scene, all of which are more explicit than in the R rated version. The dvd runs 93 minutes, while the R rated version runs 91 minutes. The old unrated VHS and laserdisc release ran 97 minutes and contained some added character moments/exposition, which is not included on the Paramount dvd. There are two music cue/audio differences in the Paramount dvd as well compared to the R & Unrated versions. Since they used the print LG used in Canada, which already contained the alterations.

Also,unless my laptop was confused. It says the audio bit rate on the dvd is only 96 kbps! Usually 2.0 mixes(mono and stereo) are encoded at 192 kbps at best.

SethDLH · 01-15-09, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by LosingMyMind

I know, right? It's a german set and includes a workprint of the film as well as other extras. If you go on ebay.de and search for monsterbox, theres one for sale right now for 100 euros.

wow....

That's a lot of $$$ for a mediocre movie hahaha

Torchur317 · 01-15-09, 04:23 PM

I'm curious about that workprint since the director hated the final cut so much.....

Josh-da-man · 01-15-09, 04:34 PM

There was a lot that got cut out of "Bloodlines."

I've seen photographs of a group of eighteenth century Cenobites, where they're wearing frilly shirts and powdered wigs.

Giles · 01-16-09, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Josh-da-man

There was a lot that got cut out of "Bloodlines."

I've seen photographs of a group of eighteenth century Cenobites, where they're wearing frilly shirts and powdered wigs.

you have to point out though that Kevin Yagher directed this, but something happened and he had his name removed and 'Alan Smithee' was added. I would assume the studio stepped in and did some hacking at the film themselves.

LosingMyMind · 01-16-09, 02:44 PM

My OCD kicked in and I'll be ordering that Bloodline monsterbox.

KillerCannibal · 01-17-09, 10:09 AM

^ Come back with pics!

SPRBD · 01-17-09, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Julie Walker

The Paramount dvd is not the R rated version despite claiming so on the packaging! The dvd contains the unrated gore footage and the unrated sex scene, all of which are more explicit than in the R rated version. The dvd runs 93 minutes, while the R rated version runs 91 minutes. The old unrated VHS and laserdisc release ran 97 minutes and contained some added character moments/exposition, which is not included on the Paramount dvd. There are two music cue/audio differences in the Paramount dvd as well compared to the R & Unrated versions. Since they used the print LG used in Canada, which already contained the alterations.

Also,unless my laptop was confused. It says the audio bit rate on the dvd is only 96 kbps! Usually 2.0 mixes(mono and stereo) are encoded at 192 kbps at best.

I wonder if Paramount quietly took it out of print when they realized that they issued the wrong version. I didn't realize that this was a R+ release and have yet to open my copy.

SethDLH · 01-17-09, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by SPRBD

I wonder if Paramount quietly took it out of print when they realized that they issued the wrong version. I didn't realize that this was a R+ release and have yet to open my copy.

From what I've heard around the internet that is basically what happened

Torchur317 · 01-17-09, 01:25 PM

Regardless,Paramount version is still not fully uncut....
It's the same print as the LG version from Canada....

LosingMyMind · 01-22-09, 11:58 PM

My Hellraiser IV monsterbox shipped. Hopefully I'll get it in a few days.

A couple of things I didn't realize 1) there are three covers 2) each cover/box is limited to 222, so there are only 666 monsterboxes in total. Talk about limited.

Seantn · 01-23-09, 01:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Josh-da-man

There was a lot that got cut out of "Bloodlines."

I've seen photographs of a group of eighteenth century Cenobites, where they're wearing frilly shirts and powdered wigs.

Here is some cut stuff from a workprint:

Mister Peepers · 01-23-09, 10:24 AM

I've had this workprint for at least a year and haven't watched it. Didn't realize I was missing a lot.

LosingMyMind · 01-23-09, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Mister Peepers

I've had this workprint for at least a year and haven't watched it. Didn't realize I was missing a lot.

Do yo have the officially released German version of a bootleg?

ianforcer · 03-08-10, 09:12 PM

I'd love to see a Hellraiser 1-8 UK boxset.

Mister Peepers · 03-09-10, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by LosingMyMind

Do yo have the officially released German version of a bootleg?

Apparently. I've watched it a few months ago and it wasn't bad.

Late answer but I missed it until the spammer bumped the thread and had his post removed.

01-15-09, 01:22 PM	#1
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Torchur317 DVD Talk Gold Edition Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Indianapolis, Indiana Posts: 2,757	Re: Hellraiser III Unrated? No,I own the Canadian LG release.... It's the same version as the Paramount Pictures Rated-R cut.... Which I believe had a little more than the original DVD added but it's not the full Uncut one.

01-15-09, 01:30 PM	#3
LosingMyMind DVD Talk Gold Edition Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 2,353	Re: Hellraiser III Unrated? DVDaf says III is uncut in the lament configuration box set. Is that correct?

01-15-09, 01:33 PM	#4
Torchur317 DVD Talk Gold Edition Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Indianapolis, Indiana Posts: 2,757	Re: Hellraiser III Unrated? Yeah it's available uncut in the U.K. in that set & in a single release I believe....

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LosingMyMind DVD Talk Gold Edition Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 2,353	Re: Hellraiser III Unrated? I really need to buy that box while it's available and affordable. I might get it next week. Also, I've been looking into the 3 disc release of bloodline and have heard nothing but bad things about it. Does anyone have that release?

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Mister Peepers DVD Talk Limited Edition Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: North Calaska, USA Posts: 6,473	Re: Hellraiser III Unrated? The US one sure didn't take long to go OOP. The cheapest used copy at amazon is around $20. __________________ Horror Challenge: 2007 2008 2009 2010 2011 2012 Comedy Challenge: 2011 *TV on DVD Challenge** 2012

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Julie Walker DVD Talk Ultimate Edition Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 4,342	Re: Hellraiser III Unrated? The Paramount dvd is not the R rated version despite claiming so on the packaging! The dvd contains the unrated gore footage and the unrated sex scene, all of which are more explicit than in the R rated version. The dvd runs 93 minutes, while the R rated version runs 91 minutes. The old unrated VHS and laserdisc release ran 97 minutes and contained some added character moments/exposition, which is not included on the Paramount dvd. There are two music cue/audio differences in the Paramount dvd as well compared to the R & Unrated versions. Since they used the print LG used in Canada, which already contained the alterations. Also,unless my laptop was confused. It says the audio bit rate on the dvd is only 96 kbps! Usually 2.0 mixes(mono and stereo) are encoded at 192 kbps at best.

01-15-09, 04:23 PM	#12
Torchur317 DVD Talk Gold Edition Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Indianapolis, Indiana Posts: 2,757	Re: Hellraiser III Unrated? I'm curious about that workprint since the director hated the final cut so much.....

01-15-09, 04:34 PM	#13
Josh-da-man DVD Talk Legend Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: The Bible Belt Posts: 16,736	Re: Hellraiser III Unrated? There was a lot that got cut out of "Bloodlines." I've seen photographs of a group of eighteenth century Cenobites, where they're wearing frilly shirts and powdered wigs. __________________ "Here's to Boston cops, they did what so many men never have been able to do: they found the little man in the boat." -- Bill Maher

01-16-09, 02:44 PM	#15
LosingMyMind DVD Talk Gold Edition Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 2,353	Re: Hellraiser III Unrated? My OCD kicked in and I'll be ordering that Bloodline monsterbox.

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Torchur317 DVD Talk Gold Edition Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Indianapolis, Indiana Posts: 2,757	Re: Hellraiser III Unrated? Regardless,Paramount version is still not fully uncut.... It's the same print as the LG version from Canada....

01-22-09, 11:58 PM	#20
LosingMyMind DVD Talk Gold Edition Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 2,353	Re: Hellraiser III Unrated? My Hellraiser IV monsterbox shipped. Hopefully I'll get it in a few days. A couple of things I didn't realize 1) there are three covers 2) each cover/box is limited to 222, so there are only 666 monsterboxes in total. Talk about limited.

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Mister Peepers DVD Talk Limited Edition Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: North Calaska, USA Posts: 6,473	Re: Hellraiser III Unrated? I've had this workprint for at least a year and haven't watched it. Didn't realize I was missing a lot. __________________ Horror Challenge: 2007 2008 2009 2010 2011 2012 Comedy Challenge: 2011 *TV on DVD Challenge** 2012

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