Paul W.S Anderson talks AVP.

[indiansbsa]

The Cheesiest/most hillarious line in film since Showgirls' "I've had puppy chow/I like puppy chow too" is from AVP

"The Enemy of my Enemy...Is My Friend!

I almost started rolling over laughing in the theater...

Yeah the Predator with his nuclear bomb armlet and laser canon is gonna be a "friend"!

Thats where this film went to the dumpster...

Oh yeah the "date-lock" was hillarious too and how this science guy figures everything out so quickly...

-B

[Jackskeleton]

That and the hand gesture for the POOF when explaining the explosion. Oh man, that team up was just handled so wrong.

[FatTony]

I'm willing to bet that the studio bigwigs saw his R-rated cut and thought it was terrible. So to try and recoup their losses ahead of time, they decided it should be PG-13 to try and pull in a larger audience.

Didn't Anderson also blame a studio for the way Event Horizon turned out? The fact of the matter is he's just a terrible filmmaker. No amount of gore or violence can change that.

[SuckaMC]

wow. I have never seen (at least in a LONG time) a movie that divided people so harshly. I liked it alot. I had fun the whole time watching it and didn't have any problem with the team-up. I even thought that this movie tied in nicely with Predator AND the first Alien. Alot of the complaints I read make it seem like that person didn't even pay attention to the movie at all. I LIKED IT!! WHO'S WITH ME!?!

Hand gesture for the explosion. so what? would you have rather him say it? Nit picky. thats all.

[Willh51]

I def. don't think that story is too far off par, I mean look what Fox did to Alien3. At least Fincher and Anderson can get together and both bitch about their movies....

[Jackskeleton]

Hand gesture for the explosion. so what? would you have rather him say it? Nit picky. thats all.

I pointed out that it was cheesy. Pointing out a cheesy aspect of the film is not nit picking.

Main difference is Fincher proved he could actually do a good film. Anderson so far has shown us that he can make terrible films from already existing franchises.

[Breakfast with Girls]

Originally posted by SuckaMC
I LIKED IT!! WHO'S WITH ME!?!

I also really enjoyed it, as I said in the Movie Talk thread. I thought it was a lot of fun.

[Julie Walker]

I was planning on avoiding the PG-13 hackfest...but if the film is as hilariouslly bad as it sounds. I may just have to check it out.


This could possible be the next Species 2 on the laugh riot scale. Man that film is the funniest thing I have seen in years. Nothing has surpassed it since,unless this film miraculously does.

[ThatGuamGuy]

This could possible be the next Species 2 on the laugh riot scale. Man that film is the funniest thing I have seen in years. Nothing has surpassed it since,unless this film miraculously does.

Sorry to briefly divert the topic but, Julie, do yourself a favor (if you haven't) ... see 'Catwoman'. I honestly haven't ever laughed that hard in a theater. I was literally (literally literally, not literally in a figurative sense like some people say) crying from laughter, and had to put my head between my legs to calm down (I wanted to be a little considerate to the other patrons, though they were all laughing too). There's a ten minute "history of catwomen" sequence which must be seen to be believed.

best part:

Spoiler:

Upon finding out what's going on, Halle goes to Google and looks up "cats in history"

Seriously, I saw 'Alien vs. Predator', and it's bad, bad-funny for some parts, but the first half was dreadfully dull and *not* funny. 'Catwoman' is a much better choice for that.

[dryars]

O/T but it looks like CatWoman is destined to be the worst movie ever made. Well according to IMDB's stats that is.

Anyways back on topic.

[buckee1]

I'm with you SuckaMc! I thoroughly enjoyed the film and cannot wait for the DVD. Admittedly, there were some parts that you had to shake your head at but on the whole, I really liked it!

I've only seen two films this summer(The Village & AVP) and this was definately the better of the two. Although, I don't know if that's really saying a whole lot.

[clckworang]

I must say that I was going into this film with very low expectations. I am not a fan of the director or any of his other movies and didn't think the Alien vs. Predator idea was going to work as a movie. The comics were great, but I had the fear that the studios would committee the movie to death to appeal to everyone, which is what they have basically done.

I'm not saying that extra gore would have made this a better movie, but it would have maybe kept me a little more entertained. You go into a movie like this expecting a certain about of blood and gore. The Matrix-style effects I could have done without. The Predator team-up I could have definitely done without. And the ending ... well, the ending just didn't need to be seen.

Someone else wrote earlier that this was the worst movie they had ever seen, and I would have to disagree with that. Often, the very worst movies ever are so bad that there's something to cling to, to enjoy, to make fun of. While there are things in it to be made fun of, overall, the movie just isn't interesting or memorable enough to be the worst movie ever.

All that being said, I still might Netflix the director's cut, if for no other reason to see if there is any truth to what Anderson says in that article.

[PalmerJoss]

I have yet to see the film, but I would be interested in seeing an R-Rated director's cut of the film. I'm no fan of Paul Anderson, but I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt when it comes to a studio messing with a film(King Arthur, anyone?). I may just give this a rent when the DC comes out.

[Jackskeleton]

I thought that this production was going to be pg-13 from the very beginning. Seems like he just wanted to escape mob justice.

[clckworang]

I have to agree with you, PalmerJoss, King Arthur was a pretty laughable movie. But to me, even King Arthur was more memorably bad than Aliens vs. Predator.

[jaeufraser]

Well, I look forward to a DC. If his cut was at least gory and more violent, that would make it a little more fun in the monster movie B movie vein.

Still, it won't save the lack of a good story, or Anderson's inability to really capture any atmosphere of dread or horror or tension. But, I don't think it's an awful movie...it's more like his Resident Evil...just like...mediocrity to the extreme.

[dryars]

I still think that despite the plot holes and the 'hokey-ness' of it all, the fight scenes in the movie were pretty damn sweet.

[Mopower]

I can't understand how some people can say this is the worst movie they have ever seen. They must not have watched very many movies. I loved it and thought it was awsome. I just saw it to have a good time not analyze every little detail. Can't wait for the DC.

[Ralph Wiggum]

Dear Paul Anderson,

Thanks a fuckin' bunch for the heads-up.

Sincerely,

Everyone Who Saw The Movie Prior To August 19th.

[ReduxGuy]

Originally posted by Jackskeleton
I really feel that Paul is just trying to pass the buck on why the movie sucked so badly.

Even with an R rating, more gore does not equal better story. The faults were not in the lack of gore because the off screen kills where all over the place in the two franchises. This film could have been really good for a PG-13 film if only the story was better. No amount of cut scenes could change how cheesy the whole predator/human team up was. Or the fact that

Spoiler:

one single alien killed two predators in a matter of three minutes

And paul anderson knew about the extreme limited time frame he had to complete the film before he jumped on the project. Effects were not finished intime for a lot of shots but that's the way the cookie crumbles when you are on a deadline in a production. My problem is he took everything that was succesful in the predator franchise and tossed it out the window.

but of course I'll buy the dvd cause it will be dirt cheap and it's a fox title.

Oh, God. How many times do I have to explain this?

Spoiler:

THEY WERE TEENAGERS AND INEXPERIENCED ONES! Of course an Alien could hand their asses to them that easily. They're not the fully trained Preds from the first two films.

Now, my idea for the DVD is like what they do for the Alien films on the Quadrilogy set. Both the theatrical version and the Director's cut, Paul, Saana, Lance, Gillis/Woodruff commentary, full-blasting DTS tracks, a two-hour long documentary like on the Quadrilogy set, the web featurettes, additional deleted scenes, the screenplay, FX tests, some other featurettes, and all of the trailers.

[chanster]

Thats a lame excuse. Nowhere is it mentioned that these are teenager Predators in the movie. If you want to go off whatever comic, go right ahead but its not mentioned in the movie. Even the 3 second backstory doesn't prove anything. Killing off 3 predators was just a way of providing "Predator Porn" - its fun to look at a group of predators, but given the structure of this film - budget, lack of any character development - they needed to get the characters down as quick as the could. Thats why every human gets killed quick and why the 2 predators are killed in a super quick timespan.

And as mentioned before, all of this came from a post in IMDB - are you going to take that as gospel from Paul Anderson's mouth - no doubt.

Anyone that thought this movie would be R from the outset, really needs to get their head examined. It was designed to flame out fast with the biggest audience possible which isn't an R rated audience/

[dryars]

Originally posted by ReduxGuy
Oh, God. How many times do I have to explain this?

Spoiler:

THEY WERE TEENAGERS AND INEXPERIENCED ONES! Of course an Alien could hand their asses to them that easily. They're not the fully trained Preds from the first two films.

Now, my idea for the DVD is like what they do for the Alien films on the Quadrilogy set. Both the theatrical version and the Director's cut, Paul, Saana, Lance, Gillis/Woodruff commentary, full-blasting DTS tracks, a two-hour long documentary like on the Quadrilogy set, the web featurettes, additional deleted scenes, the screenplay, FX tests, some other featurettes, and all of the trailers.

^^ AvP - 90210.

[Jackskeleton]

I agree with chanster, Just because it is a rite of passage doesn't mean that they have to be teenagers. Not to mention the fact that they

Spoiler:

killed two of the three in a matter of 2 minutes time in the same way. unoriginal and overdone are two words that come to mind

Now if it used proper story telling and actually told us they were teenagers or for that matter told us all these little "saving details" that paul after the fact says that are going to be in it then perhaps it would make more sense. But why would the evil editors at fox just omit those important story elements to get a PG-13 rating which it was rumored to always have?

I doubt an unrated can save this film but I'm still buying cause it's cheap.

[abintra]

Originally posted by FatTony
Didn't Anderson also blame a studio for the way Event Horizon turned out? The fact of the matter is he's just a terrible filmmaker. No amount of gore or violence can change that.

I seem to recall him saying the same exact thing on nearly all of his movies minus perhaps Shopping and Soldier.

[Jackskeleton]

He has to realize that he isn't steven spielberg. He is not established enough to demand things from the studio and is still just there filling the job place as director of said item. much like the camera man or the lighting crew are their to do their job. Fox hired him to write and direct THEIR film. So they do indeed have final say on how the film turns out or how the want it to turn out looking. If it's editing it for purposes to get more seats in the chairs or what have you, it's all up to FOX.