To 24p or to not 24p?

FinkPish · 01-11-09, 01:51 AM

With my recent purchase of a blu-ray player (Panasonic DMP-BD35), I suddenly realized that I was able to watch DVDs and BR discs in 24p. I have a pretty good idea of what this feature is doing, but I'm just not exactly sure if this is gaining me anything or adding to my experience. Does anyone have any input or a better explanation of what this might add to or detract from my viewing experience, or even if it is something that is not worth the time to bother with? Thanks.

JimRochester · 01-11-09, 09:42 AM

I know when I set my s350 to 24p instead of Auto it screwed up the picture on Into The Blue, the picture wouldn't center. So I just leave it on Auto and assume I'm getting the best picture.

Deftones · 01-11-09, 12:27 PM

personally, i feel 24p looks better on my tv and blu-ray player, but your YMMV.

SUPERMANROB · 01-14-09, 06:55 PM

Well just an FYI not many tv's do a True 24P so I'm not sure it's that big of a deal.

KillerCannibal · 01-14-09, 08:17 PM

I also don't know what, if any, difference I'm seeing but BDs in 1080/24p look badass.

beebs · 01-15-09, 03:04 AM

Interesting reading in terms of 24P --

http://www.projectorcentral.com/judder_24p.htm

It's crazy, first there's a race to add 24p. Now, there's a move to fix 24p with the frame interpolation technologies. If this is so cool... why does it need to be fixed?

-beebs

facesnorth · 01-19-09, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by beebs

Interesting reading in terms of 24P --

[link removed...don't have 5 posts]

It's crazy, first there's a race to add 24p. Now, there's a move to fix 24p with the frame interpolation technologies. If this is so cool... why does it need to be fixed?

-beebs

While he has some interesting points they are largely lost in a long article containing many inaccuracies. His writing reflects a lack of understanding of many of the things he is talking about. He uses the term judder to describe the effect of looking at 24fps in motion, as well as the effect of 3:2 pulldown. And he mentions how theaters reduce the effect with the double shuttering, but he doesn't address the 3:3, 4:4, 5:5, etc. done by modern displays.

He's a 60fps apologetic. Many people like the look of 24fps and associate it with movies, regardless if it's not as realistic looking. Many don't like the "soap opera effect" that interpolation produces.

01-11-09, 01:51 AM	#1
FinkPish DVD Talk Limited Edition Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 5,657	To 24p or to not 24p? With my recent purchase of a blu-ray player (Panasonic DMP-BD35), I suddenly realized that I was able to watch DVDs and BR discs in 24p. I have a pretty good idea of what this feature is doing, but I'm just not exactly sure if this is gaining me anything or adding to my experience. Does anyone have any input or a better explanation of what this might add to or detract from my viewing experience, or even if it is something that is not worth the time to bother with? Thanks.

01-11-09, 09:42 AM	#2
JimRochester DVD Talk Legend Join Date: Sep 1999 Location: Rochester, NY. USA Posts: 11,142	Re: To 24p or to not 24p? I know when I set my s350 to 24p instead of Auto it screwed up the picture on Into The Blue, the picture wouldn't center. So I just leave it on Auto and assume I'm getting the best picture. __________________ Panasonic 58" Plasma,Pioneer vsx91, SONY s590 319 titles, Toshiba A35 79 titles, Def-Tech speakers supercube sub. Most wanted BD: Big Red 1/Bugsy/Die Hard 4(R rated)/Dragnet/Memphis Belle/Midway (6/4/13)/Pearl Harbor(DC)/Sleepless In Seattle (7/9/13)/Tin Cup/Trapped In Paradise/True Lies/While You Were Sleeping.

01-11-09, 12:27 PM	#3
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01-14-09, 06:55 PM	#4
SUPERMANROB Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Arizona Posts: 435	Re: To 24p or to not 24p? Well just an FYI not many tv's do a True 24P so I'm not sure it's that big of a deal.

01-14-09, 08:17 PM	#5
KillerCannibal DVD Talk Legend Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Behind the Orange Curtain Posts: 17,063	Re: To 24p or to not 24p? I also don't know what, if any, difference I'm seeing but BDs in 1080/24p look badass. __________________ DVDAf Horror Movie Challenges: 2007 2008 2009 2010 2011 2012

01-15-09, 03:04 AM	#6
beebs DVD Talk Gold Edition Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Oregon, USA Posts: 2,680	Re: To 24p or to not 24p? Interesting reading in terms of 24P -- http://www.projectorcentral.com/judder_24p.htm It's crazy, first there's a race to add 24p. Now, there's a move to fix 24p with the frame interpolation technologies. If this is so cool... why does it need to be fixed? -beebs __________________ Horror Movie Challenge 2008 - 2009 - 2010 - 2011 2012- Science Fiction Challenge 2009 Movies: DVD 900+ and growing, BD 300+ HD DVD 90