If you had to pick ONE progressive scan DVD player.....from my list

DJ_Longfellow · 09-17-02, 10:20 AM

If you had to pick one progressive scan DVD player, what would you pick from my list. My friend works at a "store" where i can get a good deal.....

Sony DVP-NS715P
JVC XV-S500BK
Kenwood DV-605 [5 Disc]
Panasonic DVD-RP62S

Toshiba SD-3800
Toshiba SD-4800

NEW Mitsubishi DD-6030

These are the progressive ones i pulled from the website of the "store" he works at, there may be more "in-store" i'm hoping

** Still seems Panny and Sony are leading....someone says the Mits is the same as the Toshiba SD-3800 (same internal guts and everything, just a different face plate)

Brian Shannon · 09-17-02, 10:43 AM

I am sure people will nominate their favorites as will I.

I have a Sony 700p and have liked it alot. It is the previous model to the 715p. The 700p has the chroma bug, I do not know if the 715p does as well.

Johnny Zhivago · 09-17-02, 11:49 AM

Panasonic DVD-RP62S

No chroma bug, nice player, own one... Wish it did scaling though...

gcribbs · 09-17-02, 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Johnny Zhivago
Panasonic DVD-RP62S

No chroma bug, nice player, own one... Wish it did scaling though...

same here

another vote for the RP62

Icculus · 09-17-02, 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Johnny Zhivago
Panasonic DVD-RP62S

No chroma bug, nice player, own one... Wish it did scaling though...
Originally posted by gcribbs
same here

another vote for the RP62

Make that 3.

Aphex Twin · 09-17-02, 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by DJ_Longfellow
If you had to pick one progressive scan DVD player, what would you pick from my list. My friend works at a "store" where i can get a good deal.....

Sony DVP-NS715P
JVC XV-S500BK
Kenwood DV-605 [5 Disc]
Panasonic DVD-RP62S
Panasonic DVD724AT
Phillips DVD793CH [5Disc]
Samsung DVD-P721M
Toshiba SD-3800
Toshiba SD-4800

These are the progressive ones i pulled from the website of the "store" he works at, there may be more "in-store" i'm hoping

"Why" is "store" in quotation marks?

DJ_Longfellow · 09-17-02, 02:50 PM

"STORE" is on quotations because i didn't want to say the actual store....don't want to get anyone in trouble. It's all legit though.

I guess i am leaning towards the panny, but i wish they had the newer model

Also, how about the Sony one??? I've been thinking about that one too

egbok · 09-17-02, 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Johnny Zhivago
Panasonic DVD-RP62S

No chroma bug, nice player, own one... Wish it did scaling though...

I had this one for a month, very nice player, but I sold it and bought the DVD-RP67K (5 disc changer), same picture quality as the 62S. Just in case you're wondering, K = black, S= silver.

TheKobra · 09-17-02, 07:40 PM

Can you get the RP91K? If so get that one.

GMLSKIS · 09-18-02, 12:36 AM

SONY

This chroma bug stuff on the Sony is so overblown. I will stack my Sony against your player any day. Everytime somebody mentions a Sony somebody else says Chroma Bug. It is so minute you won't even see it.

TonyS · 09-18-02, 07:20 AM

From your list, I'd go with either the Panny RP62 or the Sony DVP-NS715P. Yes, the Sony has the Chroma Bug, but the Panny suffers from the Flicker Bug which, IMHO, is more annoying. FYI, I had the RP62, DVP-NS715P and the Toshiba SD-3800 in my house for demos (the Tosh had lockup issues). I ended up buying a Panny RP82 and while I dislike the looks, it puts out one heck of a picture! Too bad that one's not on your list.

jinhopark · 09-18-02, 11:17 AM

I'll fourth the Panny RP-62S and I will second the Panny RP-82, and the RP-91 (which does awesome scaling!) if you can find one (do you see a pattern here???).

Not familar with the flicker bug phenomon, please explain.

I have the Pioneer 47A, which is known to also have the Chroma Bug... Difficult for me to detect sometimes, even when projecting on a 9 foot screen... Never even noticed by non video-phile family and friends.

TonyS · 09-18-02, 12:24 PM

The flicker bug has to do with the CCS being turned "on" in the RP62. It is turned "off" in the RP82. Basically, saturated reds are the most noticeable and pulsate on the screen. Check out the lid of the Tinker Toy box in Toy Story chapter 4. I thought the lid was going to jump off the screen on my 47" Panny. Also check out www.avsforum.com and do a search in the DVD and LD Hardware forum for "flicker bug".

Corky Roxbury · 09-19-02, 07:50 AM

What do you guys mean by the rp91 does scaling?

jinhopark · 09-19-02, 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Corky Roxbury
What do you guys mean by the rp91 does scaling?

Please read this intro to scaling 101...

http://www.commspecial.com/deuceguide.htm#introduction

DJ_Longfellow · 09-19-02, 12:07 PM

A few questions....how much better is the Panasonic RP82 than the RP62????

I haven't yet checked in store...they may have the 82.

I guess i'm kinda torn between the Sony and the Panny right now......

Also, is there any new players coming out within the next month or two? I think i could wait till then anyways

TonyS · 09-19-02, 12:17 PM

The RP62 and RP82 use the same Sage chip (FLI2200) with DCDi. The RP62 uses a lesser quality MPEG decoder than the RP82 - the RP82 MPEG decoder is the same one that is in the RP91. So, Panasonic has taken the superb deinterlacing chip out of the RP62 and the superb MPEG decoder out of the RP91 and given us the RP82. IMHO, the RP82 is much better than the RP62. Also, the RP62 only has optical out whereas the RP82 has both optical and coaxial - which saved me $$ since I already had a coaxial cable. The RP82 also has DVD-Audio. Not that I plan on using it, but I figure it will help the resale value down the road.

As for the looks of the RP82, I have jokingly renamed it the BU82 - as in "Butt Ugly". In the end, I reminded myself that I watch the TV screen and not the DVD player when a movie is on, got over the looks and bought a player that puts out one heck of a pic!

syphon00 · 09-19-02, 04:46 PM

Get the JVC, that's what I have (SL-silver version)
it looks very slick and plays anything u throw at it, even SVCD's
extremely clear picure and crisp sound
also the menu is very nice
I got mine at Vanns.com

Officer Cartman · 09-20-02, 01:24 AM

I love my RP-82.. Well worth the extra few bucks over the 62. Had the Toshiba 4800 and returned it, was not really impressed.

DJ_Longfellow · 10-02-02, 09:54 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by DJ_Longfellow
If you had to pick one progressive scan DVD player, what would you pick from my list. My friend works at a "store" where i can get a good deal.....

Sony DVP-NS715P
Panasonic DVD-RP62S
Toshiba SD-3800

Ok, i reduced my list to 3 choices now....however, i was wondering the quality of the Pioneer Progressive Scan 656A???? How does that compare to the ones I have listed???

Thanks for all the input already

jonw9 · 10-04-02, 10:21 AM

Well, I bought the Sony 715 last night, but my TV won't be delivered until Monday so I won't be able to "review" it until some time next week.

zargon · 10-04-02, 10:29 AM

When I think of Sony, I don't think of the chroma bug... I think of junk. I would stick to the main players in DVD players, Pioneer Panasonic and Toshiba.

My Pioneer Elite supposidly has this chroma bug, and like someone said above... I really think it is over hyped. I have a 55" Mitsu and I have to pause the DVD to even notice the chroma bug.

Out of that list, the Panasonic all the way.

DJ_Longfellow · 10-04-02, 02:11 PM

Thank you everyone for all the replies....I will more than likely end up getting a Panasonic.

NOW, is the RP82 worth an extra $70 over the RP62, because i think that may be the price difference in what i can get them. The RP91 is outta my price range....so i scratched that one.

zargon · 10-04-02, 02:55 PM

Compare them

The big difference is DVD-A, the 82 has it and the 62 doesn't. Is that important to you? I don't know, both DVD-A and SACD are lacking titles and I actually bought a Pioneer DV-45a which has both DVD-A and SACD, but found out I wouldn't ever use those features and also that is wasn't much better video wise than my Pioneer DV-37 to justify the $500. Great player though, would pick it up if I had to get a new player. Anyways... back to your problem. It also has 4:4:4 signal processing, DVD-Ram support (too bad DVD-Ram blows and is dead) which are about the only other two worth mentioning and they aren't that big at that. So basically, it comes down to if you want DVD-A or not.

dgc · 10-06-02, 01:19 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by zargon
When I think of Sony, I don't think of the chroma bug... I think of junk. I would stick to the main players in DVD players, Pioneer Panasonic and Toshiba.

Sony is not a "main player" in dvd players?

I really enjoy my DVP-S9000ES, all 30+ pounds of it. In general Sony makes some pretty decent and dependable players. Far from "junk".

09-17-02, 10:20 AM	#1
DJ_Longfellow DVD Talk Limited Edition Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Michigan Posts: 6,225	If you had to pick ONE progressive scan DVD player.....from my list If you had to pick one progressive scan DVD player, what would you pick from my list. My friend works at a "store" where i can get a good deal..... Sony DVP-NS715P JVC XV-S500BK Kenwood DV-605 [5 Disc] Panasonic DVD-RP62S Toshiba SD-3800 Toshiba SD-4800 NEW Mitsubishi DD-6030 These are the progressive ones i pulled from the website of the "store" he works at, there may be more "in-store" i'm hoping ** Still seems Panny and Sony are leading....someone says the Mits is the same as the Toshiba SD-3800 (same internal guts and everything, just a different face plate) Last edited by DJ_Longfellow; 11-22-02 at 11:05 AM.

09-17-02, 10:43 AM	#2
Brian Shannon DVD Talk Legend Join Date: Jun 1999 Location: USA Posts: 10,568	I am sure people will nominate their favorites as will I. I have a Sony 700p and have liked it alot. It is the previous model to the 715p. The 700p has the chroma bug, I do not know if the 715p does as well. __________________ My home theater: http://gallery.avsforum.com/showgall...=500&password=

09-17-02, 11:49 AM	#3
Johnny Zhivago DVD Talk Limited Edition Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Korova Milkbar Posts: 5,120	Panasonic DVD-RP62S No chroma bug, nice player, own one... Wish it did scaling though... __________________ Now Playing Dilauded is pure sunshine wrapped in bacon and delivered straight to your pleasure center by a naked goddess. If I could get my hands on a gallon of it, I would start a new religion. - Cosmosguy

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10-04-02, 10:21 AM	#21
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09-17-02, 02:50 PM	#7
DJ_Longfellow DVD Talk Limited Edition Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Michigan Posts: 6,225	"STORE" is on quotations because i didn't want to say the actual store....don't want to get anyone in trouble. It's all legit though. I guess i am leaning towards the panny, but i wish they had the newer model Also, how about the Sony one??? I've been thinking about that one too

09-17-02, 07:40 PM	#9
TheKobra DVD Talk Gold Edition Join Date: Nov 1999 Location: Stuck doing T.P.S. repots for Lumbergh!!!! Posts: 2,413	Can you get the RP91K? If so get that one.

09-18-02, 12:36 AM	#10
GMLSKIS DVD Talk Platinum Edition Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Visalia, Ca., USA Posts: 3,690	SONY This chroma bug stuff on the Sony is so overblown. I will stack my Sony against your player any day. Everytime somebody mentions a Sony somebody else says Chroma Bug. It is so minute you won't even see it.

09-18-02, 07:20 AM	#11
TonyS Member Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Connecticut Posts: 244	From your list, I'd go with either the Panny RP62 or the Sony DVP-NS715P. Yes, the Sony has the Chroma Bug, but the Panny suffers from the Flicker Bug which, IMHO, is more annoying. FYI, I had the RP62, DVP-NS715P and the Toshiba SD-3800 in my house for demos (the Tosh had lockup issues). I ended up buying a Panny RP82 and while I dislike the looks, it puts out one heck of a picture! Too bad that one's not on your list.

09-18-02, 11:17 AM	#12
jinhopark Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Naperville, IL Posts: 161	I'll fourth the Panny RP-62S and I will second the Panny RP-82, and the RP-91 (which does awesome scaling!) if you can find one (do you see a pattern here???). Not familar with the flicker bug phenomon, please explain. I have the Pioneer 47A, which is known to also have the Chroma Bug... Difficult for me to detect sometimes, even when projecting on a 9 foot screen... Never even noticed by non video-phile family and friends.

09-18-02, 12:24 PM	#13
TonyS Member Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Connecticut Posts: 244	The flicker bug has to do with the CCS being turned "on" in the RP62. It is turned "off" in the RP82. Basically, saturated reds are the most noticeable and pulsate on the screen. Check out the lid of the Tinker Toy box in Toy Story chapter 4. I thought the lid was going to jump off the screen on my 47" Panny. Also check out www.avsforum.com and do a search in the DVD and LD Hardware forum for "flicker bug".

09-19-02, 12:07 PM	#16
DJ_Longfellow DVD Talk Limited Edition Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Michigan Posts: 6,225	A few questions....how much better is the Panasonic RP82 than the RP62???? I haven't yet checked in store...they may have the 82. I guess i'm kinda torn between the Sony and the Panny right now...... Also, is there any new players coming out within the next month or two? I think i could wait till then anyways

09-19-02, 12:17 PM	#17
TonyS Member Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Connecticut Posts: 244	The RP62 and RP82 use the same Sage chip (FLI2200) with DCDi. The RP62 uses a lesser quality MPEG decoder than the RP82 - the RP82 MPEG decoder is the same one that is in the RP91. So, Panasonic has taken the superb deinterlacing chip out of the RP62 and the superb MPEG decoder out of the RP91 and given us the RP82. IMHO, the RP82 is much better than the RP62. Also, the RP62 only has optical out whereas the RP82 has both optical and coaxial - which saved me $$ since I already had a coaxial cable. The RP82 also has DVD-Audio. Not that I plan on using it, but I figure it will help the resale value down the road. As for the looks of the RP82, I have jokingly renamed it the BU82 - as in "Butt Ugly". In the end, I reminded myself that I watch the TV screen and not the DVD player when a movie is on, got over the looks and bought a player that puts out one heck of a pic!

09-19-02, 04:46 PM	#18
syphon00 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 479	Get the JVC, that's what I have (SL-silver version) it looks very slick and plays anything u throw at it, even SVCD's extremely clear picure and crisp sound also the menu is very nice I got mine at Vanns.com

09-20-02, 01:24 AM	#19
Officer Cartman Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Mount Laurel, NJ Posts: 355	I love my RP-82.. Well worth the extra few bucks over the 62. Had the Toshiba 4800 and returned it, was not really impressed.

10-04-02, 10:29 AM	#22
zargon Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 226	When I think of Sony, I don't think of the chroma bug... I think of junk. I would stick to the main players in DVD players, Pioneer Panasonic and Toshiba. My Pioneer Elite supposidly has this chroma bug, and like someone said above... I really think it is over hyped. I have a 55" Mitsu and I have to pause the DVD to even notice the chroma bug. Out of that list, the Panasonic all the way.

10-04-02, 02:11 PM	#23
DJ_Longfellow DVD Talk Limited Edition Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Michigan Posts: 6,225	Thank you everyone for all the replies....I will more than likely end up getting a Panasonic. NOW, is the RP82 worth an extra $70 over the RP62, because i think that may be the price difference in what i can get them. The RP91 is outta my price range....so i scratched that one.

10-04-02, 02:55 PM	#24
zargon Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 226	Compare them The big difference is DVD-A, the 82 has it and the 62 doesn't. Is that important to you? I don't know, both DVD-A and SACD are lacking titles and I actually bought a Pioneer DV-45a which has both DVD-A and SACD, but found out I wouldn't ever use those features and also that is wasn't much better video wise than my Pioneer DV-37 to justify the $500. Great player though, would pick it up if I had to get a new player. Anyways... back to your problem. It also has 4:4:4 signal processing, DVD-Ram support (too bad DVD-Ram blows and is dead) which are about the only other two worth mentioning and they aren't that big at that. So basically, it comes down to if you want DVD-A or not.