The One And Only Star Wars Pre-Order/Bargain Thread
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Originally posted by db27
$34.99 from fye after a $15 Mail-in-Rebate
$34.99 from fye after a $15 Mail-in-Rebate
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Originally posted by THX7966
But the rebate requires the original UPC symbol from the package. Do you have to cut up the packaging to get it?
But the rebate requires the original UPC symbol from the package. Do you have to cut up the packaging to get it?
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Originally posted by fryinpan1
You can use the package sticker with the price and UPC number.
You can use the package sticker with the price and UPC number.
It is near the end of the first post.
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Originally posted by NCYankee
If you preorder the package from FYE.com, will it have the barcode sticker on it, or is that just used in-store?
If you preorder the package from FYE.com, will it have the barcode sticker on it, or is that just used in-store?
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Originally posted by db27
$34.99 from fye after a $15 Mail-in-Rebate
$34.99 from fye after a $15 Mail-in-Rebate
Amazon's STL price right now is $37.79 with free shipping and no tax for me.
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Before you count on using an outside barcode UPC symbol from a net purchased FYE DVD, please make certain they have them.
As far as I know each retail store puts those on the DVD's they sell before they put them out.
As far as I know each retail store puts those on the DVD's they sell before they put them out.
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Originally posted by kayak99
Before you count on using an outside barcode UPC symbol from a net purchased FYE DVD, please make certain they have them.
As far as I know each retail store puts those on the DVD's they sell before they put them out.
Before you count on using an outside barcode UPC symbol from a net purchased FYE DVD, please make certain they have them.
As far as I know each retail store puts those on the DVD's they sell before they put them out.
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Originally posted by AudioWizard
This is one title i'm not going to pre-order. It will be a loss leader for some one and I don't want to get caught wanting to cancel it.
This is one title i'm not going to pre-order. It will be a loss leader for some one and I don't want to get caught wanting to cancel it.
I don't see why a store would use the most anticipated DVD release ever as a loss leader. For every internet bargain hunter, there are 10 people who will just walk into their nearest store and plunk down the retail cost. Most retailers will probably see this set as a cash cow.
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07-03-04, 02:14 PM
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Originally posted by NCYankee
I don't see why a store would use the most anticipated DVD release ever as a loss leader. For every internet bargain hunter, there are 10 people who will just walk into their nearest store and plunk down the retail cost. Most retailers will probably see this set as a cash cow.
I don't see why a store would use the most anticipated DVD release ever as a loss leader. For every internet bargain hunter, there are 10 people who will just walk into their nearest store and plunk down the retail cost. Most retailers will probably see this set as a cash cow.
Best guess to me will be an instore price of around $45 and a variety of free add on's depending on the retailer (bonus disc, video game, book, ect.) that will make it near impossible to decide where to buy it!
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SRGilbert,
"Loss Leader" is the exact phrase the industry would use for a high profile title like this. If a store such as Best Buy prices this below what they pay (and toss in a "exclusive" disc), it seems like a great deal to you while they are getting you in the store hoping you will buy something else. It happens all the time (and not just at electronic stores).
"Loss Leader" is the exact phrase the industry would use for a high profile title like this. If a store such as Best Buy prices this below what they pay (and toss in a "exclusive" disc), it seems like a great deal to you while they are getting you in the store hoping you will buy something else. It happens all the time (and not just at electronic stores).
07-05-04, 02:37 AM
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"Loss leaders" are generally unimportant small-ticket items priced at near giveaway to draw people in and try to get them to buy other more expensive items. Walmart prices gas below cost to get people into their stores. The local pharmacies occasionally sell 12 packs of soda (advertised in the Suday paper flier) really cheap to draw people in.
I seriously doubt many retailers will be pricing a high-priced long-awaited box set of DVDs below cost to draw people in, hoping they will buy an Usher CD or 50 First Dates at regular price while they are there. And the likelihood of someone stopping at Best Buy to pick up the Star Wars trilogy and walking out with a washer and dryer is very low.
Star Wars is a main event. It is the type of item they put right up front in the store, and use other items to draw you in.
A perfect example of a loss leader is what Coconuts did with the Simpsons a couple weeks ago. They gave away seasons 1-3 at $10 after rebate, trying to get people to buy recently released season 4 at normal price. Also 24 - season 1 was $20 after rebate (probably at or below cost), while season 2 was $40, likely still in profit. I am sure a lot of people grabbed both.
I seriously doubt many retailers will be pricing a high-priced long-awaited box set of DVDs below cost to draw people in, hoping they will buy an Usher CD or 50 First Dates at regular price while they are there. And the likelihood of someone stopping at Best Buy to pick up the Star Wars trilogy and walking out with a washer and dryer is very low.
Star Wars is a main event. It is the type of item they put right up front in the store, and use other items to draw you in.
A perfect example of a loss leader is what Coconuts did with the Simpsons a couple weeks ago. They gave away seasons 1-3 at $10 after rebate, trying to get people to buy recently released season 4 at normal price. Also 24 - season 1 was $20 after rebate (probably at or below cost), while season 2 was $40, likely still in profit. I am sure a lot of people grabbed both.
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Originally posted by NCYankee
"Loss leaders" are generally unimportant small-ticket items priced at near giveaway to draw people in and try to get them to buy other more expensive items. Walmart prices gas below cost to get people into their stores. The local pharmacies occasionally sell 12 packs of soda (advertised in the Suday paper flier) really cheap to draw people in.
I seriously doubt many retailers will be pricing a high-priced long-awaited box set of DVDs below cost to draw people in, hoping they will buy an Usher CD or 50 First Dates at regular price while they are there. And the likelihood of someone stopping at Best Buy to pick up the Star Wars trilogy and walking out with a washer and dryer is very low.
Star Wars is a main event. It is the type of item they put right up front in the store, and use other items to draw you in.
A perfect example of a loss leader is what Coconuts did with the Simpsons a couple weeks ago. They gave away seasons 1-3 at $10 after rebate, trying to get people to buy recently released season 4 at normal price. Also 24 - season 1 was $20 after rebate (probably at or below cost), while season 2 was $40, likely still in profit. I am sure a lot of people grabbed both.
"Loss leaders" are generally unimportant small-ticket items priced at near giveaway to draw people in and try to get them to buy other more expensive items. Walmart prices gas below cost to get people into their stores. The local pharmacies occasionally sell 12 packs of soda (advertised in the Suday paper flier) really cheap to draw people in.
I seriously doubt many retailers will be pricing a high-priced long-awaited box set of DVDs below cost to draw people in, hoping they will buy an Usher CD or 50 First Dates at regular price while they are there. And the likelihood of someone stopping at Best Buy to pick up the Star Wars trilogy and walking out with a washer and dryer is very low.
Star Wars is a main event. It is the type of item they put right up front in the store, and use other items to draw you in.
A perfect example of a loss leader is what Coconuts did with the Simpsons a couple weeks ago. They gave away seasons 1-3 at $10 after rebate, trying to get people to buy recently released season 4 at normal price. Also 24 - season 1 was $20 after rebate (probably at or below cost), while season 2 was $40, likely still in profit. I am sure a lot of people grabbed both.
Do you think all the B&M's are going to price this at MSRP on release week? Don't think so. While I agree that Star Wars on DVD is a main event, it is all the more reason to put it at a price point below your competitors. We could go on for days about this (as i'm sure it has before), but I think the first week of release it will be a huge loss leader before jacking up the price the following week. Star Wars is reason enough for people to go into a B&M to pick up a copy at a dirt cheap price on release week. Once your in, the chances of you picking up more movies (or other items) increases exponentially (I.E. Loss Leader). That first week is going to be WWIII for the B&M's trying just about any tactic to get you to come into their store to pick up a set. You are certainly entitled to your opinon. I was just stating mine. My apologies to other members, as this subject has no bearing on this thread.
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Originally posted by AOD
Do you think all the B&M's are going to price this at MSRP on release week? Don't think so. While I agree that Star Wars on DVD is a main event, it is all the more reason to put it at a price point below your competitors. We could go on for days about this (as i'm sure it has before), but I think the first week of release it will be a huge loss leader before jacking up the price the following week. Star Wars is reason enough for people to go into a B&M to pick up a copy at a dirt cheap price on release week. Once your in, the chances of you picking up more movies (or other items) increases exponentially (I.E. Loss Leader). That first week is going to be WWIII for the B&M's trying just about any tactic to get you to come into their store to pick up a set. You are certainly entitled to your opinon. I was just stating mine. My apologies to other members, as this subject has no bearing on this thread.
Do you think all the B&M's are going to price this at MSRP on release week? Don't think so. While I agree that Star Wars on DVD is a main event, it is all the more reason to put it at a price point below your competitors. We could go on for days about this (as i'm sure it has before), but I think the first week of release it will be a huge loss leader before jacking up the price the following week. Star Wars is reason enough for people to go into a B&M to pick up a copy at a dirt cheap price on release week. Once your in, the chances of you picking up more movies (or other items) increases exponentially (I.E. Loss Leader). That first week is going to be WWIII for the B&M's trying just about any tactic to get you to come into their store to pick up a set. You are certainly entitled to your opinon. I was just stating mine. My apologies to other members, as this subject has no bearing on this thread.
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This will be a FIERCE competition between stores to get you to buy it from them.
It's not just trying to get you in the store that one time to buy more stuff - it's also establishing a pattern in consumers' minds about "Store X has the best prices" so that you go there to buy stuff ALL THE TIME. They're willing to lose a buck or two (or more likely, just break even) on a big release item to reinforce their store as being "your place for DVDs."
I buy a lot of stuff at Best Buy, and probably wouldn't buy as much if not for their DVD deals.
For instance, I wanted a combo printer/scanner/copier that is pretty much the same price everywhere. Where I bought it was based on who had the best price for School of Rock that week.
It's not just trying to get you in the store that one time to buy more stuff - it's also establishing a pattern in consumers' minds about "Store X has the best prices" so that you go there to buy stuff ALL THE TIME. They're willing to lose a buck or two (or more likely, just break even) on a big release item to reinforce their store as being "your place for DVDs."
I buy a lot of stuff at Best Buy, and probably wouldn't buy as much if not for their DVD deals.
For instance, I wanted a combo printer/scanner/copier that is pretty much the same price everywhere. Where I bought it was based on who had the best price for School of Rock that week.
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I have a question since I wasn't active here at the time the Indiana Jones set came out - how many stores had great deals on that? I got it at FYE for $25 after rebate ($50 - $25) - but I don't recall seeing other aggressive deals. Of course,I wasn't really shopping around for it - the deal just fell into my lap.
I would say the IJ trilogy was the closes thing to the Star Wars trilogy in recent memory - but Star Wars is probably much bigger.
I think the best chance for a loss leader would be really cheap prices on the Ep I-II DVDs to get people in, then sell them the trilogy at a decent (but not giveaway) price with some sort of bonus line BBs R2D2 disc).
I would say the IJ trilogy was the closes thing to the Star Wars trilogy in recent memory - but Star Wars is probably much bigger.
I think the best chance for a loss leader would be really cheap prices on the Ep I-II DVDs to get people in, then sell them the trilogy at a decent (but not giveaway) price with some sort of bonus line BBs R2D2 disc).
07-05-04, 01:57 PM
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I have a question since I wasn't active here at the time the Indiana Jones set came out - how many stores had great deals on that? I got it at FYE for $25 after rebate ($50 - $25) - but I don't recall seeing other aggressive deals. Of course,I wasn't really shopping around for it - the deal just fell into my lap.
I would say the IJ trilogy was the closes thing to the Star Wars trilogy in recent memory - but Star Wars is probably much bigger.
I think the best chance for a loss leader would be really cheap prices on the Ep I-II DVDs to get people in, then sell them the trilogy at a decent (but not giveaway) price with some sort of bonus line BBs R2D2 disc).
I have a question since I wasn't active here at the time the Indiana Jones set came out - how many stores had great deals on that? I got it at FYE for $25 after rebate ($50 - $25) - but I don't recall seeing other aggressive deals. Of course,I wasn't really shopping around for it - the deal just fell into my lap.
I would say the IJ trilogy was the closes thing to the Star Wars trilogy in recent memory - but Star Wars is probably much bigger.
I think the best chance for a loss leader would be really cheap prices on the Ep I-II DVDs to get people in, then sell them the trilogy at a decent (but not giveaway) price with some sort of bonus line BBs R2D2 disc).
Eckerdx Drug Store had it advertised for $34.99 and a lot of ppl used that flyer to price match at other stores.
FYE had the $49.99 + Tax - $25 MIR Indiana Jones deal around Christmas time (or slightly after it)
07-05-04, 03:09 PM
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actually, if i recall, Indiana Jones was $49.99 at most stores. I think that Best Buy offered the bonus disc. Some stores may have had it for $44.99
Eckerdx Drug Store had it advertised for $34.99 and a lot of ppl used that flyer to price match at other stores.
FYE had the $49.99 + Tax - $25 MIR Indiana Jones deal around Christmas time (or slightly after it)
actually, if i recall, Indiana Jones was $49.99 at most stores. I think that Best Buy offered the bonus disc. Some stores may have had it for $44.99
Eckerdx Drug Store had it advertised for $34.99 and a lot of ppl used that flyer to price match at other stores.
FYE had the $49.99 + Tax - $25 MIR Indiana Jones deal around Christmas time (or slightly after it)
Personally, I'll probaby be doing the Star Wars/THX-1138 CE combo deal at Amazon with STL.