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Old 02-15-11, 01:09 PM   #1
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Earth based Villain in DC/Marvel universe with biggest body count?

What DC/Marvel villian based on Earth has the highest kill/body/murder count and how high is it? I'm talking the entire history fo the superhero comics, and killings aren't wiped out by continuity changes.

If we are talking villians from beyond Earth, I'm pretty sure the Anti-monitor takes the crown as he has hundreds trillions of murders on his hands, right?

Galactus probably has the highest count for non-earth villian in Marvel's world, with hundres of billions.
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Old 02-15-11, 03:05 PM   #2
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Re: Earth based Villain in DC/Marvel universe with biggest body count?

Bolivar Trask
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bolivar_Trask

Created Sentinels, MasterMold, ect. and "recently in X-Force, Bastion (who has been reactivated by the Purifiers) has apparently resurrected Bolivar Trask through use of a Technarch to be part of a team of the world's foremost mutant killers. He was reported to have the highest record of mutant kills"

Cassandra Nova
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cassandra_Nova

Cassandra is Xavier's ideological dark shadow, bent on destruction and genocide. She is most infamous for commanding an army of Sentinels to massacre 16 million mutants within the mutant homeland of Genosha



Punisher

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punisher

Duh.
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Old 02-16-11, 01:38 PM   #3
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Re: Earth based Villain in DC/Marvel universe with biggest body count?

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Bolivar Trask
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bolivar_Trask

Created Sentinels, MasterMold, ect. and "recently in X-Force, Bastion (who has been reactivated by the Purifiers) has apparently resurrected Bolivar Trask through use of a Technarch to be part of a team of the world's foremost mutant killers. He was reported to have the highest record of mutant kills"

Cassandra Nova
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cassandra_Nova

Cassandra is Xavier's ideological dark shadow, bent on destruction and genocide. She is most infamous for commanding an army of Sentinels to massacre 16 million mutants within the mutant homeland of Genosha



Punisher

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punisher

Duh.
None of those three is seen as a villian in the Marvel Universe, the first two are seen as heros for killing off mutie filth and the Punisher is written as the anti-hero-superhero and he only kills villians therefore he is a hero.
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Old 02-16-11, 03:22 PM   #4
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Re: Earth based Villain in DC/Marvel universe with biggest body count?

In the Marvel Universe, Nitro's detonation which started off Civil War and killed 600+ people must be one of the bigger, in-continuity body counts, considering how that initiated the Registration Act.

It's notable that Dark Phoenix, who was earth-based for a little while, committed mass genocide. Jim Shooter refused to let someone guilty of that stick around, which is why she was killed off, and also why, years later, Busiek's idea for Jean Grey's return had to separate her from Phoenix before that incident.
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Old 02-16-11, 08:14 PM   #5
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Re: Earth based Villain in DC/Marvel universe with biggest body count?

Didn't Thanos kill off entire galaxies as a gift to his love, the personification of Death?
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Old 02-16-11, 09:33 PM   #6
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Re: Earth based Villain in DC/Marvel universe with biggest body count?

Magneto has a high body count. I remember he sank a Russian sub at one point.

The Red Skull must have a very high body count, though I'm not sure how much has been shown on panel. Ditto Baron Strucker, the first Baron Zemo, and Arnim Zola, all of whom were high-level Nazis.
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Old 02-17-11, 08:15 AM   #7
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Re: Earth based Villain in DC/Marvel universe with biggest body count?

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Didn't Thanos kill off entire galaxies as a gift to his love, the personification of Death?
Earth-based is the key.

In Cry for Justice Prometheus blew up Star City, and the death toll was something like 90.000.

Also: Hitler.
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Old 02-17-11, 12:52 PM   #8
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Re: Earth based Villain in DC/Marvel universe with biggest body count?

There was a Justice League storyline in the mid-90s that involved the destruction of Montevideo, Uruguay. I can't remember who the villain was.
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Old 02-17-11, 02:52 PM   #9
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Re: Earth based Villain in DC/Marvel universe with biggest body count?

I think that was Vandal Savage.
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Old 02-17-11, 02:55 PM   #10
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Re: Earth based Villain in DC/Marvel universe with biggest body count?

I was going to say Genosha, but since that was just mutie filth being killed it doesn't count.
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Old 02-17-11, 03:40 PM   #11
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Re: Earth based Villain in DC/Marvel universe with biggest body count?

But you weren't asking for public perception to be factored in. Cassandra Nova was a villain.

If that's the case, then the Punisher is often referred to as a serial killer or mass murderer in Marvel Comics. If that's the public perception of him, then he should probably win.
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Old 02-17-11, 05:08 PM   #12
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Re: Earth based Villain in DC/Marvel universe with biggest body count?

Plus, both Trask and Nova are villains to our mutant heroes and many of the heroes will call the Punisher a villain (Daredevil, Spiderman, Cap).

Im sure Sabretooth and Deadpool have high body counts. I'll also put in a vote for Matt Murdock's penis since just about every female it touches ends up either dead, a villain, or both.
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Old 02-18-11, 06:19 AM   #13
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Re: Earth based Villain in DC/Marvel universe with biggest body count?

Does Kingdom Come count? It's placed in a future DC universe, and millions of people are killed by the battle between Magog and Parasite.
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Old 02-18-11, 12:50 PM   #14
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Does Kingdom Come count? It's placed in a future DC universe, and millions of people are killed by the battle between Magog and Parasite.
Yeah, alternate/Elsewords/What if stories all count.

Good one that I'd forgotten about, although that wasn't a deliberate act, but an accident.
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Old 04-23-11, 01:55 PM   #15
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Re: Earth based Villain in DC/Marvel universe with biggest body count?

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I think that was Vandal Savage.
I was thinking this too. As an Immortal he's been as psycho then as he is now. Even if he killed a person a month it would be in at least the 5 to 6 figure range.

Now, if this also includes indirect killing Ras Al Ghul is another possibility. Just how many has he ordered killed by his League of Assassins, I wonder?
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Old 04-23-11, 04:14 PM   #16
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Re: Earth based Villain in DC/Marvel universe with biggest body count?

Hal jordon green lantern/paralax?
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Old 04-25-11, 11:40 AM   #17
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Re: Earth based Villain in DC/Marvel universe with biggest body count?

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Earth-based is the key.

In Cry for Justice Prometheus blew up Star City, and the death toll was something like 90.000.

Also: Hitler.
I choose to believe that Cry For Justice, and Rise of Arsenal and everything dealing with the fallout of that, and basically 90% of what James Robinson has done in comics after he finished Starman is an Elseworlds. I know the OP said we can include Elseworlds, but that seems like a copout considering the creators never really have to deal with any of the fallout on an ongoing basis... similar to alternate futures, or the Sentinels/Trask and Apocalypse would also be up there.
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Old 04-25-11, 01:01 PM   #18
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Re: Earth based Villain in DC/Marvel universe with biggest body count?

Personally, I think Identity Crisis onwards is basically an Elseworlds. Too much darkness and death for my tastes.
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Old 04-25-11, 08:10 PM   #19
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Re: Earth based Villain in DC/Marvel universe with biggest body count?

Ultron had a pretty big body count, killing the entire population of Slorenia (whatever that population was).

Black Adam killed at least 2 million recently.
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