Stephen King: "11/22/63" (releases on 11/8/11)
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Does King indicate in his story which of the three or four gunmen who shot Kennedy (from different locations) his time traveler will try to stop? If he goes looking for Oswald, who was downstairs on the street or in the first floor lunchroom when the shots were fired, he won't stop any assassination at all. Best to try and dissuade JFK from making the trip. Or insist that he put the bubble top over the convertible. Or replace the Secret Service detail that day with personnel who were actually loyal to Kennedy and not trying to get him killed.
If it's another "Oswald-did-it-alone" screed, it'll be a complete waste of time. Another doorstop--like Bugliosi's book.
If it's another "Oswald-did-it-alone" screed, it'll be a complete waste of time. Another doorstop--like Bugliosi's book.
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Does King indicate in his story which of the three or four gunmen who shot Kennedy (from different locations) his time traveler will try to stop? If he goes looking for Oswald, who was downstairs on the street or in the first floor lunchroom when the shots were fired, he won't stop any assassination at all. Best to try and dissuade JFK from making the trip. Or insist that he put the bubble top over the convertible. Or replace the Secret Service detail that day with personnel who were actually loyal to Kennedy and not trying to get him killed.
If it's another "Oswald-did-it-alone" screed, it'll be a complete waste of time. Another doorstop--like Bugliosi's book.
If it's another "Oswald-did-it-alone" screed, it'll be a complete waste of time. Another doorstop--like Bugliosi's book.
Since the time traveler in King's story only knows that Oswald is (possibly) the lone shooter, he wouldn't know who else to look for anyway.
So I'm interested to see where King takes this story.
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But going after Oswald wouldn't save anybody's life, not even Tippit's. Except maybe Oswald's. Keep him somewhere else that day and he might not have been framed and then shot. (But then where would that have left the second Oswald?) A fellow named Richard Case Nagell, who feared being implicated in the plot to kill JFK, shot a gun off in an El Paso bank earlier that fall just to get arrested and wound up in jail, keeping him out of Dallas that fateful weekend. You could go back in time and save Oswald by having him do something similar. But it certainly wouldn't have saved JFK.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Paul_Pavlick
Let us not forget this assassination attempt, before Kennedy was sworn in.....
Richard Paul Pavlick was a retired postal worker from New Hampshire who stalked U.S. President-Elect John F. Kennedy, with the intent of assassinating him. On December 11, 1960 in Palm Beach, Florida, Pavlick positioned himself to carry out the assassination by blowing up Kennedy and himself with dynamite, but delayed the attempt because Kennedy was with his wife and children. He was then arrested before he was able to stage another attempt.
Let us not forget this assassination attempt, before Kennedy was sworn in.....
Richard Paul Pavlick was a retired postal worker from New Hampshire who stalked U.S. President-Elect John F. Kennedy, with the intent of assassinating him. On December 11, 1960 in Palm Beach, Florida, Pavlick positioned himself to carry out the assassination by blowing up Kennedy and himself with dynamite, but delayed the attempt because Kennedy was with his wife and children. He was then arrested before he was able to stage another attempt.
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Additionally, those same three additional gunman would go on to fake the moon landing and engineer 9/11. Their latest project involves distributing mind-control waves to the populace via smart phones. Luckily, these waves are easily avoided by wearing a tin-foil hat on your head. At all times.
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Additionally, those same three additional gunman would go on to fake the moon landing and engineer 9/11. Their latest project involves distributing mind-control waves to the populace via smart phones. Luckily, these waves are easily avoided by wearing a tin-foil hat on your head. At all times.
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Additionally, those same three additional gunman would go on to fake the moon landing and engineer 9/11. Their latest project involves distributing mind-control waves to the populace via smart phones. Luckily, these waves are easily avoided by wearing a tin-foil hat on your head. At all times.
"Just because you don't think they're out to get you doesn't mean they're not out to get you." - Old Hippie Proverb.
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True. There was a plot to kill him in Chicago earlier that November, but the trip was canceled. And the Secret Service in Chicago never told the Dallas office about it. And there was a plot to kill him in Miami that fall, but...I think that trip was canceled, too. Yes, they would have got him sooner or later. And when I say "a plot," I really mean different branches of the same overall conspiracy.
But going after Oswald wouldn't save anybody's life, not even Tippit's. Except maybe Oswald's. Keep him somewhere else that day and he might not have been framed and then shot. (But then where would that have left the second Oswald?) A fellow named Richard Case Nagell, who feared being implicated in the plot to kill JFK, shot a gun off in an El Paso bank earlier that fall just to get arrested and wound up in jail, keeping him out of Dallas that fateful weekend. You could go back in time and save Oswald by having him do something similar. But it certainly wouldn't have saved JFK.
But going after Oswald wouldn't save anybody's life, not even Tippit's. Except maybe Oswald's. Keep him somewhere else that day and he might not have been framed and then shot. (But then where would that have left the second Oswald?) A fellow named Richard Case Nagell, who feared being implicated in the plot to kill JFK, shot a gun off in an El Paso bank earlier that fall just to get arrested and wound up in jail, keeping him out of Dallas that fateful weekend. You could go back in time and save Oswald by having him do something similar. But it certainly wouldn't have saved JFK.
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Re: Stephen King: "11/22/63" (releases on 11/8/11)
People, it was Orson Welles that shot Kennedy, acting under orders from Winston Churchill. He also ordered the hits on C.S. Lewis and Aldous Huxley which took place on the same day but received far less notice.
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No, Orson Welles was the Black Dahlia killer.
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Additionally, those same three additional gunman would go on to fake the moon landing and engineer 9/11. Their latest project involves distributing mind-control waves to the populace via smart phones. Luckily, these waves are easily avoided by wearing a tin-foil hat on your head. At all times.
You forgot about the flourinated drinking water that is being used to drug the populace into quiet the people and keep them complacent!!
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Well, it's working, isn't it?
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My problems with King are his idiotic endings with a lot of bullshit going on like in Dreamcatcher or Under the Dome where
Spoiler:
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Ok, fine. It's not "" hilarious but it is "" funny that the "innocent-yet-not-appropriate-for-this-thread" spoilers just seem to happen from the same guy.
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Ah. I was hoping you were laughing because he was wrong about Under the Dome or something, because I haven't read it yet. Oh well.
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Yeah... that wasn't cool. I've already read the book, but damn, not cool at all for some of you. Don't let that stop you from reading it. Dark Tower books aside, it's probably King's best since the accident. It has one of the best villains he's created since Pennywise.