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Old 08-21-16, 10:38 PM
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Re: A song of ice and fire [potential spoilers if watching tv show or partway thru bo

Anyone planning on going to the Con of Thrones next year?
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Anyone planning on going to the Con of Thrones next year?
yes I think so
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Re: A song of ice and fire [potential spoilers if watching tv show or partway thru bo

GRRM with an update:

Winds is still, you guessed it, months away from being finished.

He's apparently been so busy working on just the WoW that his book on the history of the Targaryen kings has become so big that it will be split into two volumes with volume I possibly out in 2018.
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Originally Posted by MrX
GRRM with an update:

Winds is still, you guessed it, months away from being finished.

He's apparently been so busy working on just the WoW that his book on the history of the Targaryen kings has become so big that it will be split into two volumes with volume I possibly out in 2018.
Volume 2 to be released in 2043
Old 08-13-17, 05:16 PM
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Re: A song of ice and fire [potential spoilers if watching tv show or partway thru bo

Anyone else ready for this guy to just give these duties to ghost writers who work from his outlines?
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I think he will just end up dying like Robert Jordan and then someone will finish off the series from his notes. He already shared his ending with the television show creators. Football season is starting now, so he won't get anything done for the next 5 months on the main stuff. He will work on side projects like Wild Cards or his history book. February he will say h the Winds of Winter will be ready by the end of the year 2018 and it won't.
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Re: A song of ice and fire [potential spoilers if watching tv show or partway thru bo

Originally Posted by Dr. DVD
Anyone else ready for this guy to just give these duties to ghost writers who work from his outlines?
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I think he will just end up dying like Robert Jordan and then someone will finish off the series from his notes. He already shared his ending with the television show creators. Football season is starting now, so he won't get anything done for the next 5 months on the main stuff. He will work on side projects like Wild Cards or his history book. February he will say h the Winds of Winter will be ready by the end of the year 2018 and it won't.
While I wouldn't want to see this pimped out to hired hands like Tom Clancy or what Brian Herbert did with Dune, I really don't see Martin finishing out the seven book cycle. He might get Winds of Winter out in three or five years, but he's taking longer and longer between books (five betwen ASOS and AFFC, six between AFFC and ADWD, and now 6+ between ADWD and TWOW). The Red God only knows how long it would take him to complete the final book.

I would not object to having a ghost writer complete the series if Martin is unable to do so, however.

And, unless something has changed, this is all academic anyway, because Martin has said that, upon his death, all of his notes and unpublished/uncompleted manuscripts are to be destroyed.
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Well unless he burns his stuff as he is dying, I can't see his family passing up the chance to make millions off of his stuff, last wishes or not. Tolkien's family has been mining his notes for decades for some good money.
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Just got an email about a forthcoming anthology called Book of Swords which contains a new GOT story. So I guess he side tracked himself again on another project before finishing Winds.
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So reading today that GRRM has gone from 100% working on WoW to now he has part one of a two part history of the Targaryens that will be released this year. He says it will be out before WoW which doesn’t sound like it will be released this year. He of course thinks people should just be happy that he’s publishing something from ASoIaF.

It’s amazing his publisher hasn’t sued him yet because they have to realize he is never going to finish the series, or at least the series ending before the books will cost them money.
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It would be nice if he waited to do those Targaryen King books until after he completes A Dream of Spring.

Yeah... shit... there's no indication that TWoW will come out this year, so it's 2019 at the earliest, eight years since ADwD. Then we're probably looking at at least ten years for ADoS. The time between books has been increasing: Five years, six years, eight (and counting) years. And I still don't trust him to not need an eighth book.

I just don't see any way that he finishes the series before he kicks the bucket.
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Re: A song of ice and fire [potential spoilers if watching tv show or partway thru bo

^ He would be 80 years old by the end of the series if he followed that schedule.
I honestly don’t see the series getting completed.
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Re: A song of ice and fire [potential spoilers if watching tv show or partway thru bo

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^ He would be 80 years old by the end of the series if he followed that schedule.
I honestly don’t see the series getting completed.
Yeah, it effectively took him eleven years to write ADWD (he had to break it into two books, AFFC being the first part), and he's been going on eight for TWOW (and even then, parts of ADWD were moved into TWOW). So the fourth book expanded into a fifth book and even spilled over into the sixth book.

That the story keeps expanding while his pace slows doesn't bode well.
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Re: A song of ice and fire [potential spoilers if watching tv show or partway thru bo

sigh...was really hoping this bump was for an official release date of Winds of Winter. Silly of me to expect that, given the numerous delays.
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Re: A song of ice and fire [potential spoilers if watching tv show or partway thru bo

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sigh...was really hoping this bump was for an official release date of Winds of Winter. Silly of me to expect that, given the numerous delays.
George R.R. Martin is confirming what Game of Thrones fans have increasingly suspected: The long-awaited sixth book in his A Song of Ice and Fire saga, The Winds of Winter, will not be out in 2018.

The author revealed the decision in a press release announcing a publication date for Fire and Blood, his upcoming history of the Targaryens.

“No, winter is not coming… not in 2018, at least,” Martin wrote. “You’re going to have to keep waiting for The Winds of Winter. You will, however, be able to return to Westeros this year. I do want to stress… indeed, I want to shout… that Fire and Blood is not a novel. This is not a traditional narrative and was never intended to be… let’s call this one ‘imaginary history’ instead. The essential point being the ‘history’ part. I love reading popular histories myself, and that’s what I was aiming for here… As for me, I’m returning once again to The Winds of Winter.”

Fans have been eagerly waiting for the next book in the series and their mounting frustration with the beloved author is legendary. His last entry, the bestseller A Dance with Dragons, was published back in 2011 — the same year HBO’s hit series based on his saga, Game of Thrones, aired its debut season.

The author has given many reasons for the book’s delay over the years, ranging from the distractions which have arisen from the HBO series, his work on other books and projects, and his struggles while writing the novel to continue the narrative complexity of his epic and sprawling story in a manner that meets his own high standards.

Set 300 years before the events in A Song of Ice and Fire, the new Fire and Blood is the first of two planned volumes. It’s described as “the definitive history of the Targaryens in Westeros and chronicles the conquest that united the Seven Kingdoms under Targaryen rule through the Dance of the Dragons: the Targaryen civil war that nearly ended their dynasty forever. Readers may have glimpsed small parts of this narrative before — in The World of Ice and Fire and various anthologies — but the full tapestry of Martin’s history of the Targaryens is revealed here for the first time. Lavishly illustrated with over 75 all-new black and white portraits and scenes by artist Doug Wheatley, Fire and Blood will give readers a whole new appreciation for the fascinating history of Westeros and will be a must-have addition to every fan’s bookshelf.”

Fire and Blood will be released in hardcover on Nov. 20.

Martin also has another series based on his work, Syfy’s space horror drama Nightflyers, coming later this year. He’s also closely involved with the development of a potential prequel series to Game of Thrones for HBO.

Meanwhile, Game of Thrones is currently filming its final season, which will air in 2019.
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Re: A song of ice and fire [potential spoilers if watching tv show or partway thru bo

Why the hell is he writing a Targaryen history book when he should be finishing the books? I think he has just written himself into a hole that he can't get out of.....
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It will be best when he just dies and someone else can finish based on his notes. He had a good idea and some great history, but he just wrote himself into a corner and can't figure a way out so he works on other things other than what the fans want.
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Re: A song of ice and fire [potential spoilers if watching tv show or partway thru bo

Apparently Martin told Diana Gabaldon, who wrote Outlander, that he backed himself into a corner and killed off a character that he needs.
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Re: A song of ice and fire [potential spoilers if watching tv show or partway thru bo

Originally Posted by MrX
Apparently Martin told Diana Gabaldon, who wrote Outlander, that he backed himself into a corner and killed off a character that he needs.


Can't say that surprises me.

Wonder who it was...
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Re: A song of ice and fire [potential spoilers if watching tv show or partway thru bo

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Wonder who it was...
probably Ned Stark. lol
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probably Ned Stark. lol
Nah, it's that dude Ned beheaded in the Prologue of book 1.
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Can someone just write a fan fiction that finishes this all up? They can just continue from season 7 of the show.
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Can someone just write a fan fiction that finishes this all up? They can just continue from season 7 of the show.
Lol, it's called Game of Thrones Season 8. I think I have moved into don't care if he ever finishes them territory. They are unbelievably good books, but its just ridiculous now.

Not that he is alone. Didnt Rothfuss say the interview series was done when the first book came out?
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Re: A song of ice and fire [potential spoilers if watching tv show or partway thru bo

Any news on when Knight of the Seven Realms and Fire and Blood will be available in regular paperback version in North America? I enjoy these stories, but not enough to buy them in hardcover at launch, so I'm always like a year behind lol .
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Any news on when Knight of the Seven Realms and Fire and Blood will be available in regular paperback version in North America? I enjoy these stories, but not enough to buy them in hardcover at launch, so I'm always like a year behind lol .
A Knight of the 7 kingdoms is currently $3 for the kindle version on Amazon. I really hope Martin or someone else can finish the series. He should just take the tv series and adapt that to his books.


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