Twilight Time Blu-Ray Deals
#101
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Violent Saturday looks glorious on the Masters of Cinema Region B blu-ray; highly recommended if you're region free. --Peter
#102
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Might also be worth waiting to see if TT marks down their excellent Blu-Ray of Violent Saturday some day, which seems likely since, like many of the ones in the bargain bundles, it's not really a special edition (having only an isolated score). Even if they don't, MoC's edition will probably still be around.
#103
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Definitely seems like something fishy going on, but they're still announcing new titles, so there's that. I do have a hard time believing that they'll ever re-release any of these a la Olive just to get improved transfers on the market. If they didn't sell well the first time around, a new transfer won't move that many more copies. I'll definitely be curbing my spending at future $20 sales though, as several that I picked up at that price even this year are now in the bundles. Of course, being able to buy extras and flip 'em I the long term will certainly offset my earlier spends quite nicely, but I can't imagine this won't impact Twilight Time's bottom line over the long haul (even though it's Screen Archives cleaning house) when more and more people just start holding off.
Predictably, all the new additions went up on Amazon Canada's Marketplace via "newly launched" seller Screen Archives Entertainment . within the last few days for the princely sum of $40.60 CDN, so it's a safe bet they're holding back a good chunk of each title to offset the write-downs on these bundles. I should probably look up the remaining non-bundle titles to see if they've done the same with any of those; might be a good way of seeing what will be added next.
Predictably, all the new additions went up on Amazon Canada's Marketplace via "newly launched" seller Screen Archives Entertainment . within the last few days for the princely sum of $40.60 CDN, so it's a safe bet they're holding back a good chunk of each title to offset the write-downs on these bundles. I should probably look up the remaining non-bundle titles to see if they've done the same with any of those; might be a good way of seeing what will be added next.
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#104
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I think I figured out why the links weren't working, but I'm still not sure why it was only on some browsers. I changed all the prefixed from www1 to www and it seems to work now.
I'm not sure if this is TT and/or SAE breaking up or TT running up the red flag, but I agree there is something odd going on.
I would complain about the original purchase price I paid willingly, but I've had many of these for 2-4 years and I just can't worry about what the prices are 3 years after I bought them. If I did that I'd never have bought anything and it would have taken me an extra 8 years to buy an HDTV
I think I figured out why the links weren't working, but I'm still not sure why it was only on some browsers. I changed all the prefixed from www1 to www and it seems to work now.
I'm not sure if this is TT and/or SAE breaking up or TT running up the red flag, but I agree there is something odd going on.
I would complain about the original purchase price I paid willingly, but I've had many of these for 2-4 years and I just can't worry about what the prices are 3 years after I bought them. If I did that I'd never have bought anything and it would have taken me an extra 8 years to buy an HDTV
#105
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And as excellent as it is, it's not the kind of title anyone need race out and buy for fear of it selling out at regular prices on either side of the pond. Of course, at this rate, those other 30 could end up bundled before we know it, although my wallet is hoping desperately that that won't happen.
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#106
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And I don't think there is anything wrong. They want to clear out stock of old, non-selling movies. It's got to suck to have thousands of BDs just sitting on a shelf month after month and not collecting anything on them but dust.
And I don't know why anyone would be pissed that they paid more several years ago for these titles. Everyone takes a risk nowadays on buying anything media related whether it is movie, book or CD. The risk is that you don't buy it, it goes out of print and then it starts selling for astronomical amounts on ebay or wherever. Or you go ahead and buy it at full price and it eventually goes on sale or clearance somewhere.
That happens to me with books all the time. I buy that damn thing for what I think is a good price and then it gets watermarked somewhere and I could have gotten it for pennies on the dollar. Or I took a pass on a book and then it doesn't end up on clearance anywhere and you only see it for ridiculous amounts on ebay or third party sellers on Amazon.
There are a couple of titles I would like to get in the current sale but I can't seem to reach up to 7 at this point. I hope they keep slowly increasing the titles and eventually there will be 7 I actually want.
#107
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I agree this is a clearing out of slow selling titles. When TT licensed the lot of 300 titles they didn't get to cherry pick. It was a grab bag. For every great title they were forced to take a couple not so great.
I wouldn't hold my breath for stuff like Hombre, Cat Ballou or The Mechanic to make it into a bundle sale.
We still have Legend of The Lost coming. Olive was only able to get DVD rights because BD rights were already taken.
I believe Fly II will be a TT also. The reason we haven't seen it yet is because TT got the rights ten years ago taking it off the market.
I wouldn't hold my breath for stuff like Hombre, Cat Ballou or The Mechanic to make it into a bundle sale.
We still have Legend of The Lost coming. Olive was only able to get DVD rights because BD rights were already taken.
I believe Fly II will be a TT also. The reason we haven't seen it yet is because TT got the rights ten years ago taking it off the market.
#108
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And I don't know why anyone would be pissed that they paid more several years ago for these titles. Everyone takes a risk nowadays on buying anything media related whether it is movie, book or CD. The risk is that you don't buy it, it goes out of print and then it starts selling for astronomical amounts on ebay or wherever. Or you go ahead and buy it at full price and it eventually goes on sale or clearance somewhere.
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Very true. I have long come to the conclusion that whatever media I buy at what I think is a great price, it will eventually be sold for less somewhere. There is truly no such thing as the lowest price something will ever be unless it is free or someone pays you to take it. Just purchase something when it reaches the price you think it is worth. When it becomes available at a lower price, well you have had it to view all the time between when you bought it and when the price went down. That has to be worth something.
And I don't know why anyone would be pissed that they paid more several years ago for these titles. Everyone takes a risk nowadays on buying anything media related whether it is movie, book or CD. The risk is that you don't buy it, it goes out of print and then it starts selling for astronomical amounts on ebay or wherever. Or you go ahead and buy it at full price and it eventually goes on sale or clearance somewhere.
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Very true. I have long come to the conclusion that whatever media I buy at what I think is a great price, it will eventually be sold for less somewhere. There is truly no such thing as the lowest price something will ever be unless it is free or someone pays you to take it. Just purchase something when it reaches the price you think it is worth. When it becomes available at a lower price, well you have had it to view all the time between when you bought it and when the price went down. That has to be worth something.
#109
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I'm considering putting in an order of 7 or 14 discs from this sale. Are there ones listed that should be avoided based on picture quality?
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And I don't know why anyone would be pissed that they paid more several years ago for these titles. Everyone takes a risk nowadays on buying anything media related whether it is movie, book or CD. The risk is that you don't buy it, it goes out of print and then it starts selling for astronomical amounts on ebay or wherever. Or you go ahead and buy it at full price and it eventually goes on sale or clearance somewhere.
Very true. I have long come to the conclusion that whatever media I buy at what I think is a great price, it will eventually be sold for less somewhere. There is truly no such thing as the lowest price something will ever be unless it is free or someone pays you to take it. Just purchase something when it reaches the price you think it is worth. When it becomes available at a lower price, well you have had it to view all the time between when you bought it and when the price went down. That has to be worth something.
At these bundle prices, at the very least they can gather dust on your own shelves until supplies truly run out, then you can flip them. There's a finite supply, after all. Even now, a lot of the discs in these bundles are listing for $25-30 or more on Amazon's U.S. Marketplace. I'm sure they may not all move quickly but as I'm finding up here, takers do bite eventually.
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There were enough added to the list that I had to "Bite The Bullet" this time. But I was careful in choosing 7 titles which have high marks for both content and presentation. There's a couple more I would have grabbed, but not 7. If they add additional titles, hopefully I can grab a few more. I wanted to add "Philadelphia," but the subject matter makes it difficult to revisit—its just too damn depressing [Edit: I decided it was just too powerful a drama to pass on purchasing]. Anyone debating a purchase of "The Blue Lagoon" should jump right away—it is a gorgeous disc and a fine film. Just placed the following order:
Bite the Bullet
The Other
Lost Horizon
Love Is A Many Splendored Thing
The Way We Were
Pal Joey
Philadelphia
Ultimately decided to pass on "Desiree" and "Nicholas and "Alexandra" in favor of "The Other" and "Philadelphia."
Bite the Bullet
The Other
Lost Horizon
Love Is A Many Splendored Thing
The Way We Were
Pal Joey
Philadelphia
Ultimately decided to pass on "Desiree" and "Nicholas and "Alexandra" in favor of "The Other" and "Philadelphia."
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#112
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Just got another e-mail. There is an October 15 end date to the bundle sale unless a title sells out before the end.
OFFER ENDS OCTOBER 15TH AT 5PM EASTERN!
OFFER ENDS OCTOBER 15TH AT 5PM EASTERN!
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...I don't know why anyone would be pissed that they paid more several years ago for these titles. Everyone takes a risk nowadays on buying anything media related whether it is movie, book or CD. The risk is that you don't buy it, it goes out of print and then it starts selling for astronomical amounts on ebay or wherever. Or you go ahead and buy it at full price and it eventually goes on sale or clearance somewhere...
Bite the Bullet
The Other
Lost Horizon
Love Is A Many Splendored Thing
The Way We Were
Pal Joey
Philadelphia
Yeah, hopefully they will add a few more titles before the deal ends. If I bought 7 more I'd really be scraping the bottom of the barrel and I have no desire to sell 'em on eBay.
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Not surprised. As I've mentioned, I was entranced watching it....a far better film than I remembered. Dare I say that I enjoyed watching it nearly as much as Criterion's release of "The Black Stallion?" I have no doubt its inclusion sold many bundles this morning.
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I would guess that they are trying to move the older SAE-only titles out. It can be confusing for some customers to figure out which site has which titles. All titles on both sites would be more convenient.
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I got Blue Lagoon in the last $20 sale and didn't regret it. It is a beautiful picture and a really beautiful story.
Pair it with Twilight Time's Summer Lovers (directed by the same guy) and you have two excellent movies based on frank and realistic depictions of human sexuality that just aren't made anymore.
Pair it with Twilight Time's Summer Lovers (directed by the same guy) and you have two excellent movies based on frank and realistic depictions of human sexuality that just aren't made anymore.
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I'm surprised "The Way We Were" is still available. It received high marks for image and it is a popular mainstream title. And despite its somber subject matter, you would think "Philadelphia" would have disappeared as well.
Edit: I decided to pass on "Desiree" and "Nicholas and Alexandra" in favor of "The Other" and yes, "Philadelphia." Though beautiful to look at, the two historic epics are not highly regarded. I contacted SAE and they kindly cancelled and I re-ordered with the two new titles.
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Once the bundles started, though, my research became about the films themselves, and not necessarily their presentation. It matters to a degree, but when a bunch of TT discs for movies I've yet to see but have long been passively aware of become available for ten bucks -- and the alternate is OOP DVD's fetching exorbitant sums, or discovering the library system here doesn't have them on the shelves -- I'll happily give SAE my $10 for a few blind buys after a reasonable amount of 'historical' research. Most of the films in their collection were/are moderately to highly regarded by critics and scholars (yes, I know, there's an occasional dud), and should I not share the same opinions of them, it's reassuring to know I can find new homes for them effortlessly on Amazon and actually offset the costs of the discs I keep (do people really still bother with eBay to sell discs? Man . . . it's been ages since I've even looked at that site).
Incidentally, I don't think any of Twilight Time's titles really represent the "scraping bottom of the barrel" in terms of either original production quality, disc quality, or the desire of others to get them at such a fair price. Purely in terms of titles, Kino and Olive both scrape the barrel far more often in comparison (despite generally good transfers). It took ages before we had the inevitable $10-ish sale on Olive's discs (at Deep Discount a few months back) and even that was a bit rich for some of their bare-boned oddities. I'm still waiting for the day when Kino does the same thing. It's only a matter of time, as it was here, though I'd be happy if they waited until after my bank account heals.
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They both have been available from Sony region free in Europe before Twilight Time released them in the US. I guess fans of Barbra Streisand, who tired of waiting for a US release of "The Way We Were" would have found it and purchased.
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...Incidentally, I don't think any of Twilight Time's titles really represent the "scraping bottom of the barrel" in terms of either original production quality, disc quality, or the desire of others to get them at such a fair price. Purely in terms of titles, Kino and Olive both scrape the barrel far more often in comparison (despite generally good transfers). It took ages before we had the inevitable $10-ish sale on Olive's discs (at Deep Discount a few months back) and even that was a bit rich for some of their bare-boned oddities. I'm still waiting for the day when Kino does the same thing. It's only a matter of time, as it was here, though I'd be happy if they waited until after my bank account heals.
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Certainly Twilight Time's treatment of some films has not been stellar, apparently, although outside of a few more notorious instances, finding a broad consensus on the technical presentations of any given title from all of the higher-profile online Blu-ray reviewers (even here) is an exercise in futility. Which is why I'm in it more for the movies themselves, and in that regard I guess I just don't see where Twilight Time's catalogue has that many, uhh, pigs in it. Still, I tend to share your approach (if not your low opinions of many of their film choices); there are dozens (and dozens) of TT discs I don't need even at bundle pricing, but there are a great many others I simply want to see -- to sort of scratch them off a mental list I've been carrying around for decades -- and having missed many opportunities when older discs went out of print, this SAE dump is just a nice opportunity. I've only watched a couple so far and both were worth keeping, while the doubles I picked up will eventually earn a tidy profit once I list them on Amazon up here. Win win. And no eBay.
BTW, I agree wholeheartedly on eBay, but it's not the only option in terms on unloading potentially profitable discs. Granted, trading locally is faster all around, but I find it's only good for the $5-and-under stuff you mention. I'll even trade three-for-one or four-for-one just to move that stuff out faster because most of it's so commonly and cheaply available there's very little money to be made anyway.
BTW, I agree wholeheartedly on eBay, but it's not the only option in terms on unloading potentially profitable discs. Granted, trading locally is faster all around, but I find it's only good for the $5-and-under stuff you mention. I'll even trade three-for-one or four-for-one just to move that stuff out faster because most of it's so commonly and cheaply available there's very little money to be made anyway.