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Old 04-25-17, 06:30 PM
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The Flash (S3E19) -- "The Once and Future Flash" -- 4/25/17






TUESDAY, APRIL 25

THE FLASH

"The Once and Future Flash" - (8:00-9:00 p.m. ET) (Content Rating TBD) (HDTV)

TOM CAVANAGH DIRECTS; BARRY TRAVELS TO THE FUTURE TO SAVE IRIS - Barry (Grant Gustin) travels to the future to find out Savitar's still unknown identity in the hopes of saving Iris (Candice Patton). Upon his arrival in 2024, Barry encounters future versions of his Team Flash friends, who, following the death of Iris, have become very different people, profoundly impacted by their showdown with Savitar. It will be up to Barry to infuse a sense of hope back into the team, as he proves to be hero his future friends have been waiting for. Meanwhile, back in 2017, the hunt for Killer Frost (Danielle Panabaker) continues. Tom Cavanagh directed the episode written by Carina Adly MacKenzie (#319). Original airdate 4/25/2017.

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Re: The Flash (S3E19) -- "The Once and Future Flash" -- 4/25/17

Good show.

Flash still too skinny in 7 years but it was great to see a Flash actually wear a red costume.
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Re: The Flash (S3E19) -- "The Once and Future Flash" -- 4/25/17

One of the best of the season Well acted and directed throughout.
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Re: The Flash (S3E19) -- "The Once and Future Flash" -- 4/25/17

That was a solid hour. Probably one of the best of the season. Seeing Team Flash in a really dark place in the future aside from HR was quite interesting.

Yeah I liked the bright red Flash costume from the future. Really intrigued on who Savitar is. Killer Frost seemed mesmerized by the reveal.
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Re: The Flash (S3E19) -- "The Once and Future Flash" -- 4/25/17

Maybe, it's Ronnie.
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Re: The Flash (S3E19) -- "The Once and Future Flash" -- 4/25/17

Future Flash shook hands with present Flash and destroyed the Universe....

Either Ronnie or Eddie I'd bet. Eddie makes more sense because he's related to Thawne and could possibly still exist in Flashpoint.
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Re: The Flash (S3E19) -- "The Once and Future Flash" -- 4/25/17

Good episode. Looks like we may learn who Savitar is next week.
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Re: The Flash (S3E19) -- "The Once and Future Flash" -- 4/25/17

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Either Ronnie or Eddie I'd bet. Eddie makes more sense because he's related to Thawne and could possibly still exist in Flashpoint.
Well, I dunno about that 'cause Killer Frost doesn't really give two shits about Eddie. Look at her face when he reveals himself. It's so obvious it's someone she cares about.
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Re: The Flash (S3E19) -- "The Once and Future Flash" -- 4/25/17

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Well, I dunno about that 'cause Killer Frost doesn't really give two shits about Eddie. Look at her face when he reveals himself. It's so obvious it's someone she cares about.
I had the opposite reaction. She looked like to me it was someone she knew but didn't care deeply about.
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Re: The Flash (S3E19) -- "The Once and Future Flash" -- 4/25/17

Thinking about her reaction Ronnie makes the most sense to me.
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Re: The Flash (S3E19) -- "The Once and Future Flash" -- 4/25/17

Whoa, Barry needs to start wearing the 2024 costume pronto. That was the best Flash costume we've ever seen in live-action entertainment. Make it happen, Flash team. I wonder if mopey, emo Flash from 2024 was this show's metacommentary on the coming movie version of Flash?

Some think Savitar may be the Flash from the Flashpoint universe or some other time remnant. Don't ask me how that would work.
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Re: The Flash (S3E19) -- "The Once and Future Flash" -- 4/25/17

Originally Posted by PhantomStranger
Whoa, Barry needs to start wearing the 2024 costume pronto. That was the best Flash costume we've ever seen in live-action entertainment. Make it happen, Flash team. I wonder if mopey, emo Flash from 2024 was this show's metacommentary on the coming movie version of Flash?

Some think Savitar may be the Flash from the Flashpoint universe or some other time remnant. Don't ask me how that would work.
Apparently all the time remnants did not get killed when Barry summon them. Maybe one became Savitar.
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Re: The Flash (S3E19) -- "The Once and Future Flash" -- 4/25/17

I still can't grasp what a time remnant is exactly....he goes back in time and then the other one is the remnant?
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Re: The Flash (S3E19) -- "The Once and Future Flash" -- 4/25/17

Basically going back in time, recruiting yourself from the past (thus creating a divergent timeline), and bringing that alternate past self with you into your present.

I think. Makes the best sense to me.
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Re: The Flash (S3E19) -- "The Once and Future Flash" -- 4/25/17

None of it makes any sense really. How can you meet your present/future self?
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Hos can you run super fast and enter an extradimensional realm of speed?
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Re: The Flash (S3E19) -- "The Once and Future Flash" -- 4/25/17

Tom Cavanagh did a nice job directing this episode.

Killer Frost was brutal for what she did to Vibe.

Also nice to see Mirror Master and the Top again.
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Re: The Flash (S3E19) -- "The Once and Future Flash" -- 4/25/17

Originally Posted by Hokeyboy
Hos can you run super fast and enter an extradimensional realm of speed?
I do this every day.
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Re: The Flash (S3E19) -- "The Once and Future Flash" -- 4/25/17

Won't we be surprised when we discover Savitar is actually Lady Savitar. The costume and voice seem very male which is why I think its a fake-out and its a female character. Who is a female that would want to ruin Barry's life and kill Iris in the process?

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Re: The Flash (S3E19) -- "The Once and Future Flash" -- 4/25/17

Still think it is a version of Barry. It has to be someone that gets put in the speed force and when he went to see Wally in the future, Cisco said he got messed up by what he saw under the mask. Seeing Barry as the one who killed his sister and broke his back would really mess him up. Can't see any other speedster. Unless maybe it is a version of Jessie Quick.
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Re: The Flash (S3E19) -- "The Once and Future Flash" -- 4/25/17

It could be Jay Garrick.
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It could be Jay Garrick.
Fuck you no.
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Re: The Flash (S3E19) -- "The Once and Future Flash" -- 4/25/17

One mystery solved this week. We now know that H.R. isn't going anywhere for at least seven more years.
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Re: The Flash (S3E19) -- "The Once and Future Flash" -- 4/25/17

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Still think it is a version of Barry. It has to be someone that gets put in the speed force and when he went to see Wally in the future, Cisco said he got messed up by what he saw under the mask. Seeing Barry as the one who killed his sister and broke his back would really mess him up. Can't see any other speedster. Unless maybe it is a version of Jessie Quick.
Yeah, I think you're right. Frost obviously knows him and was surprised to see who was behind the mask. Introducing another speedster or giving another member of the main cast super-speed would be lame. Barry makes the most sense.

Or maybe the suit is giving them speed and it's Iris. That's the only other person who would cause Frost to react that way that would make some kind of sense in this time-travel-filled world.
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Re: The Flash (S3E19) -- "The Once and Future Flash" -- 4/25/17

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Or maybe the suit is giving them speed and it's Iris. That's the only other person who would cause Frost to react that way that would make some kind of sense in this time-travel-filled world.
Why would Iris be trying to kill herself? Killer Frost doesn't like the current Barry or Iris, so why would she be ok with helping a different version of them?


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