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dex14
04-13-17, 06:37 PM
I am about to move. I've been going through my CD collection and I really haven't touched most of them in a long time. I rarely buy a disc anymore. Do any of you still buy them regularly? Did you have big collections and downsize or get of them all? I'm not sure what I want to do. Maybe I'll put some into a binder and chuck the cases. Trading them in seems like a waste of time with little payoff.

fiver
04-13-17, 06:46 PM
I sometimes buy CDs from the Deathwatch Asia label (now Digital World Audio). I may buy for some smaller bands too or if I want to support a kickstarter.

I'm not really sure what to do with the majority of CDs I have though. I don't have a CD player anymore, but I'd feel very leery of depending entirely on my mp3 collection always being around or services like spotify always having the exact edition I may want to hear.

Tough decision so I'm always interested in hearing what other people are doing these days.

DJariya
04-13-17, 07:06 PM
I don't purchase a lot of new music these days. Occasionally I'll pick up a new CD at Target because some of their titles have exclusive bonus tracks. Whenever I travel overseas, I tend to look for International Exclusives for artists that I like. I travel to Asia a lot and believe it or not, physical media hasn't died there. CDs and Record stores are still relatively popular there.

But other than that, I don't normally purchase new CDs. I'm not fully into streaming music or buying stuff off iTunes, but I did purchase the Big Little Lies soundtrack off iTunes recently.

I think I have roughly 300-400 CDs. A lot of them I haven't listened to in years, but I have no intention of getting rid of them. Trying to sell them at an FYE or used book seller is a waste of time and money. You're probably only going to get $2-3 at most and that's for a relatively brand new title. Forget selling older stuff. I've seen FYE have hundreds of unsold stock of older titles that they can't get rid of.

dex, If you really want to downsize, I suggest you go through your collection, keep the titles you really want, the discs and liner notes and put them in giant binders.

The rest, I say bring them to a Good Will or your local library and use that for a future tax write off. That's what I've been doing for extraneous content that is clutter. That's more worth it than trying to waste time and sell them for chump change.

Trevor
04-13-17, 07:08 PM
My collecting-mania went thru a music phase back when CDs were first getting popular. I might have 1000 of the things, most I have met listened to in years if not decades. I can see myself getting rid of most of them someday, but like other things, it's a project I keep putting off.

dex14
04-13-17, 07:09 PM
Yea... I should add I'm not really into streaming either. I mean I use Spotify at work, but that's about it. I'll buy digital and burn discs to listen in the car. I have a large digital collection backed up on an external drive. I find it funny I'm more accepting of digital for music, but for movies...no way.

The Cow
04-13-17, 08:14 PM
I still pick up some from smaller bands at their merch tables, but that's about it.

Norm de Plume
04-13-17, 08:56 PM
Very, very few, mainly because I have 3 Ikea CD shelves that are just about full, and I don't want to make room for more.

dtcarson
04-13-17, 09:16 PM
I do still buy but very slowly. I'll buy a disk at a concert if I like the band, and occasionally Amazon has great sales on disks that are sometimes cheaper than the MP3 version. I've maybe bought a couple dozen in the last year.
I have sold/traded disks in the past (what was that swap service, Lala? I got a few hard to find discs from that) but I probably won't anymore - if I get rid of them, I'll probably just donate them.
I think trading in or reselling would not be worth the time/energy unless you have some really rare discs.
A few years ago I sold my Murphy's Law Back with a Bong disk for something close to a hundred bucks on Amazon. But that is the extreme exception.

I still have four 100-count cassette racks in my attic and a big bag of them in the garage. Probably all melted now though.

I do buy MP3s, mostly from Amazon.com; I stream and download from Amazon music on my phone and computer, and listen to XM radio in the car.

Nick Danger
04-13-17, 09:16 PM
I still buy maybe 2 a year. I have 700 or 800 of them. I almost never listen any of them anymore, but I still don't want to let them go.

Michael Corvin
04-13-17, 09:19 PM
Yes / No

I still buy them from my favorite bands. I keep the disc in the car for a couple of months while I listen to it. I rip 'em and toss the disc in a tub in the basement.

Then there are some cases where Amazon has the disc cheaper than the MP3s(or they have the disc+rip cheap) so I'll go the disc route there as well.

Adam Tyner
04-13-17, 10:02 PM
I almost always buy music on CD, even though I mostly just pop the CD in my computer, rip it to iTunes, and never touch it again. I just like having a physical thing. I have been listening to CDs more in my car over the past few months, though. Everything before I got married is in storage, so the only music I have here is stuff I've bought since then, and there's always more than I think there is.

So far this month, I've bought the new albums by Hollerado and The New Pornographers, and I'm thinking about picking up PEARS' first album after really getting into Green Star.

Weirdly, not too many of the bands I listen to have gone all-digital, although it's starting to get more common that they'll be digital or vinyl, with no CD in the fray. Newer acts are definitely only on Bandcamp or whatever. Some stuff I have to import from Canada or the UK to get 'em on CD.

PerryD
04-13-17, 10:17 PM
Yeah, I'm all about Spotify nowadays, but I do pick up the occasional CD to bring to a show to get signed by the band if I do any meet and greets.

Mike86
04-13-17, 10:53 PM
I really don't buy as much music in general anymore. I have my favorites that I'll always pick up albums from but I've kind of fallen out of listening to a lot of music. A lot of times if there's a song I want to own I'll just download it from iTunes now though. I'm normally not on the digital bandwagon but if it's just a song or two that I like it's silly to buy a full physical album that I won't likely listen to very often. I honestly think over the past two or three years I've probably only bought around ten or so physical albums/soundtracks.

Troy Stiffler
04-13-17, 10:54 PM
Got rid of them at one point. I'd buy only the absolute best. On vinyl though.

Anyone remember the old days when you had to buy the CD or cassette just to listen to one song on an otherwise turd-of-an-album? Singles only saved you a few bucks.

My favorite albums get play on Youtube. Often with official uploads.

EdTheRipper
04-13-17, 10:58 PM
I still buy cds, but not with the sort of frequency I did in the past.

Hazel Motes
04-14-17, 02:24 AM
very rarely. Only if an album I really want is on CD and not vinyl. I have everything by The Band on vinyl. Wanting to round out my collection I picked up the 3 albums they released on CD in the 90's, as to my knowledge vinyl was never pressed.

But yeah, very rarely, i'm mostly vinyl/youtube.

mphtrilogy
04-14-17, 08:01 AM
just re-organized my CD library, I am keeping them. But joined Spotify premium this year to be selective on what I want to add moving forward. I have over 2000 in my collection and just started collecting records so Spotify is a good way to see what I want to add.

Noonan
04-14-17, 08:03 AM
I haven't bought a CD in over a decade. Still have all of mine in boxes in the basement. Not even worth carrying them out to try to sell.

Dan
04-14-17, 08:11 AM
Nope. Can't remember the last CD I actually bought, but I have about 800 or so in boxes in storage. I got a free one with a record I bought last year... I'm not sure what they expected me to do with it.

As for records... I may have a bit of a problem...

http://i.imgur.com/V6jnxol.png

mndtrp
04-14-17, 09:37 AM
I still buy for the occasional band that offers a pre-order bonus, or if a store has extra tracks for some reason. If I'm at a show, especially local bands, I'm more likely to buy a cd. I'll then immediately rip it to itunes, back it up, and put the discs in a box. I do still have all of my cds in boxes under my stairs.

Otherwise, I'll buy digitally, preferring Bandcamp over other sources.

Why So Blu?
04-14-17, 09:48 AM
No, I do not buy CDs anymore. When I thinned out the collection years ago I sold them off to Amazon/SecondSpin, etc.

Now there's Decluttr and they pay well depending on what the title is.

DVD Josh
04-14-17, 09:49 AM
I own roughly 3000 CDs. Bought a ton during the hastings and secondspin sales, plus a few online and ebay places I know about.

DVD Josh
04-14-17, 09:51 AM
No, I do not buy CDs anymore. When I thinned out the collection years ago I sold them off to Amazon/SecondSpin, etc.

Now there's Decluttr and they pay well depending on what the title is.

Thanks for sharing this link. Have you found that Decluttr pays more than SecondSpin? I was about to send a bunch off to them but if D pays more they will get it. At least they will pay for you to ship it, unlike SS.

Why So Blu?
04-14-17, 10:00 AM
Thanks for sharing this link. Have you found that Decluttr pays more than SecondSpin? I was about to send a bunch off to them but if D pays more they will get it. At least they will pay for you to ship it, unlike SS.



It depends. On some items they do. The last time I sent two orders to Decluttr/Secondspin I priced them both at the same time. SecondSpin will reimburse you shipping up to a certain amount, but you have to read their policy, because it's dependent on how many items you send me.

starseed1981
04-14-17, 10:53 AM
No / I'm Trying Too

I don't consider myself a nostalgic person but I can't seem to bring myself to recycle or throw out my collection. Most Goodwill or second hand stores around Los Angeles won't even take them anymore because they are so flooded with the things. So I actually leave them in a house that I rent out on VRBO in the hopes that the tenants will take them but they rarely do. I've had about 2000 discs in that condo and I always tell renters they are free to take what they want....yet they rarely do. In about two years I'm only down like 10 discs......but like 75 beach towels.

Alan Smithee
04-14-17, 11:24 AM
I used to buy a ton every month (roughly 1989 through 1995) but the rising prices turned me off, then DVDs came around and my interest in CDs hasn't come back since, even though I've seen some decent prices on them recently. I mainly don't have as much time to listen to them anymore, but it's also a case of having pretty much everything I want and not being into too much new music.

Haven't bought a single MP3 ever, I'd still rather buy a CD- last CD I bought was the new Depeche Mode (on sale for $9.99, an unheard of low price for a new release just a few years ago) though I haven't had time to listen to it- in fact I bought their previous album and haven't even listened to that yet! Music Blu-Rays with multi-channel sound and 3D visuals are FAR more appealing to me right now.

Eddie W
04-14-17, 11:47 AM
The only time I buy a CD is if Amazon's wonky pricing makes it cheaper to buy it & get the free auto rip. For example the new Old 97's is $9.49 for the MP3 version. But the CD with free MP3 version is $7.40. Weird.

GuessWho
04-14-17, 02:38 PM
Only from my fave band in an effort to continue that lil' collection.

davidh777
04-14-17, 02:42 PM
New releases I'll go either way depending on the price. Catalog I tend to go digital except, as mentioned, when the CD is auto-rip and priced lower.

I like some CD packaging but often don't even open it and just use the auto-rip, and that way it's in my Amazon library for use with my Sonos or Alexa. I use Spotify but don't pay for premium so can't use it with those services.

atxbomber
04-14-17, 02:56 PM
The only time I buy a CD is if Amazon's wonky pricing makes it cheaper to buy it & get the free auto rip. For example the new Old 97's is $9.49 for the MP3 version. But the CD with free MP3 version is $7.40. Weird.

I think the last 15 or so CDs I bought were like this. Last year around this time I bought a bunch of Iggy Pop and Sonic Youth CDs for about $3.99 a pop and they all had auto-rip, meanwhile just buying the MP3s alone would have been the $9.49 per album.

rw2516
04-14-17, 04:13 PM
I've got several thousand. All catalogued and shelved alphabetically and by genre. I've been at this almost 50 years though. Everything from Christmas to movie soundtracks to Black Sabbath to Sons of the Pioneers. If you ever listened to Theme Time Radio Hour with Bob Dylan my collection is as varied as the show. I probably buy about 100 a year now. I used to buy as many as 10 a week.
This is a lifetime collection. Back in the 70s and 80s I would tape all the King Biscuit and BBC Live shows, simulcasts, etc. When MTV and VHS came along, I ran the audio from cable box to cassette recorder and recorded all the MTV Saturday concerts. Later transferred everything to cd.
I'll select a cd, like you select a movie, and just sit and listen from beginning to end not doing anything else.

BDB
04-14-17, 06:25 PM
After getting a divorce and selling our house, I decluttered, staring at the enormous pile of CDs, I was like nope. Not going to move these- Which I don't really regret. 5% regret. but just not worth the hassle

Paul_SD
04-14-17, 09:39 PM
My CD purchasing/collecting has exploded over the last year and a half. Primarily movie soundtracks which was my main musical love as a kid.
As is the case with a lot of things that are geared towards adult collectors now, the people producing them are grown up fans of the format and material as opposed to just corporate drones putting out product. The care, passion, and attention to detail that goes into producing these release are clearly evident, and that's gotten me hooked.

I went from buying maybe one CD every several years to well over 300 in just the last 18 months. I just got off another large order (17 discs) with Intrada and will probably place yet another smaller order before their current sale is up.

As far as collecting them goes- there are a few favorite titles that I want to keep around even though I will probably never need to touch the physical disc ever again. But the packages are just too damn nice. They almost always use iconic key art, as well as including extensive liner notes in well illustrated booklets. For a film I love, it's just a compact, beautiful little package to have.

However I would like to narrow down that core collection to a specific number, just so I don't start hoarding again. Maybe limit it to 100 titles and then cull from those if/when I add anything new. Most of the stuff I pick up at this point is destined for the sell pile after I rip it. And to hit on another question from the OP- I would much rather have the physical disc and rip it myself, than to just take a download. On good gear I do feel like I can hear a slight uptick in quality. Not large, but it is there (to my ears). For most stuff, if I can get a good rip and then sell off the disc, I've essentially gotten a high quality download for slightly less than the going rate (after you factor in the usual slight loss from the resale). The majority of stuff I really don't feel a need to own physically- but I do want a high quality copy of it.

And that's another great thing about CDs now, as opposed to BD/DVDs- Amazon hasn't changed the rules yet on reselling them. General music might be a tougher proposition, but soundtracks are still quite niche and appeal to an older demographic that isn't as hung up on downloading- so selling them off is still somewhat of a viable way to subsidize new purchases.

Josh-da-man
04-15-17, 01:17 AM
I haven't bought a CD in, probably, five or more years.

I just don't give a shit about new music to want to spend money on them. Ten or more bucks for an album I might listen to once all teh way through just doesn't seem like a good deal. Very little released in the past twenty or so years holds my interest, and I keep going back to the stuff I loved as a kid through y college years.

I love Metallica, but I'd rather listen to KEA, RTL, or MOP again than HTSD.

Everything is up on youtube for free anyway, so if I want to check something out I'll just go there.

DaveWadding
04-15-17, 12:55 PM
Wife and I tend to go to the used CD store and buy either $1 titles (that tend to be the 80s/90s country that we both love) or buy blind bags of 10 CDs and pray for a couple good ones.

The only new music I'm into is country and country is still very singles oriented. I buy my one favorite band's new music on vinyl, then the rest I just throw the songs I like from SiriusXM onto a Youtube playlist.

brayzie
04-15-17, 02:02 PM
I still buy CDs and I haven't got rid of any. I do buy songs every so often from iTunes, but going to the record store and sifting through all the different new and used CDs in different genres is the best.

Michael Corvin
04-15-17, 08:02 PM
I still buy for the occasional band that offers a pre-order bonus,

Didn't think of that. I pre-ordered Ayreon's newest as he usually signs the first however many copies.

dtcarson
04-15-17, 09:55 PM
I just bought 4 today.

Dropped off three boxes of books and household stuff at the thrift store, and I always talk a look inside (usually looking for board games - they had none.)
But I got 4 CDs - three country and a Disney soundtrack - for .49 each.

mickey65
04-15-17, 11:49 PM
I still listen to and buy CDs. I must have close to 2000 by now. I have a 6-disc CD player on my stereo and load it up to listen to while I work. (I work at home). Its great finding obscure classic stuff (rock, r&b, country) at my local Salvation Army every week for 50 cent to $1 each!

kd5
04-16-17, 06:06 AM
Last CD I bought was by Frank Steiner Jr. ~ Touching Silk (new age), probably 7 or 8 years ago, it's the perfect cruising music. I've had that same music playing in my car since I bought it, made copies of it for my wife and me, we both enjoy it every time we go somewhere.

cdollaz
04-16-17, 11:06 PM
I still buy a ton.

Sonic
04-16-17, 11:15 PM
Has anyone burn them all to a gigadrive? I thought about doing that but afraid of it breaking down in the near future.

Rival11
04-17-17, 07:56 AM
I only buy CD's for the music I love so that's pretty much all I buy but some of my bands are now releasing digital copies only. New music is terrible these days and you know it is when the generation growing up with it agrees.

slop101
04-17-17, 12:24 PM
I still buy CDs.

Storage is a pain, but the albums I buy tend to be albums that work best as a whole rather than a collection of songs, and more often than not, it's WAY cheaper than buying digitally, iTunes or whatever, and that's to say nothing of sound quality. I still have a CD player in my car (along with a USB port) so I can play whatever I want too.

I get why people don't want the physical items and would just rather stream everything through their devices, and it is tempting, but that shit just devalues the music to me, and I prefer CDs and vinyl, because I actually like my music and prefer it presented to me in the best manner possible, even if storing it might be a pain.

kefrank
04-17-17, 12:47 PM
I still buy CDs occasionally. The decision tree goes something like this for albums I want:

Buy the vinyl if it's available and isn't exorbitantly expensive.
If not vinyl, buy the CD if it's less expensive than the digital download and rip it immediately.
If not readily available on physical formats or is considerably less expensive digitally, buy the digital download.

I listen to MP3s/streams quite a bit, especially since my car supports MP3 via USB, but I don't really feel like I "have" an album if I only have the digital download so it is not my preferred format for purchasing. I am not the target market for subscription streaming as that feels even less like I'm engaging with an album in any kind of meaningful way.

nando820
04-17-17, 01:06 PM
New releases I'll go either way depending on the price. Catalog I tend to go digital except, as mentioned, when the CD is auto-rip and priced lower.

I like some CD packaging but often don't even open it and just use the auto-rip, and that way it's in my Amazon library for use with my Sonos or Alexa. I use Spotify but don't pay for premium so can't use it with those services.

I used to like that feature from Amazon. I bought a few physical CDs from Amazon that had that feature so I use to stream those albums. Then i started noticing some songs didn't sound like I remembered, so i pulled out the actual CDs, played them on my cheap portable Disc player and there was a world of difference in quality (at least to my ears) the mp3 sounded all muffled compared to the actual CDs. Haven't used that feature ever since

slop101
04-17-17, 01:45 PM
I wonder if in 10-20 years CDs will make a resurgence like vinyl did, with people re-discovering their superior qualities of better sound, no background noise and durability? ...:lol:

Why So Blu?
04-17-17, 02:15 PM
Ha!

If I do need to listen to a CD I can check them out for free form the library.

PhantomStranger
04-17-17, 03:01 PM
This is the golden age of cheap CDs and a dream for real music lovers if you know what you are doing. There is a lot of music that likely never escapes the format. Streaming services are terrible for out of print material and stray b-sides that often got released on deluxe CD editions.

The only thing I worry about is the availability of new albums on CD. Some younger-skewing acts are now skipping CD releases.

rbrown498
04-17-17, 07:18 PM
I've been trying to move a lot of my CDs onto my computer and into iTunes, and I've got all that I've done so far backed up on a jump drive.

My quandary is that some albums, like Pink Floyd's The Wall, for instance, segue all or certain songs together. When they're broken up into individual tracks, they start and end weirdly, and if I'm listening to the entire album sequentially, there are annoying pauses between the tracks that disrupt the intended flow of the music.

Does this not bother those of you who are going all digital, or have you found some miracle work-around so that this doesn't occur?

davidh777
04-17-17, 07:34 PM
I've been trying to move a lot of my CDs onto my computer and into iTunes, and I've got all that I've done so far backed up on a jump drive.

My quandary is that some albums, like Pink Floyd's The Wall, for instance, seque all or certain songs together. When they're broken up into individual tracks, they start and end weirdly, and if I'm listening to the entire album sequentially, there are annoying pauses between the tracks that disrupt the intended flow of the music.

Does this not bother those of you who are going all digital, or have you found some miracle work-around so that this doesn't occur?

Digital has weird problems. I have a lot of cast recordings, and a lot of the individual songs are credited to the specific actors/characters, which is the right thing to do. But iTunes will often sort those songs as separate albums (e.g., Sound of Music by Julie Andrews, Sound of Music by Christopher Plummer), so one recording will be categorized as 12 different albums, which is a real PITA.

I used to like that feature from Amazon. I bought a few physical CDs from Amazon that had that feature so I use to stream those albums. Then i started noticing some songs didn't sound like I remembered, so i pulled out the actual CDs, played them on my cheap portable Disc player and there was a world of difference in quality (at least to my ears) the mp3 sounded all muffled compared to the actual CDs. Haven't used that feature ever since

I haven't noticed that problem myself, thankfully. I expect that kind of thing could vary a lot by album.

Michael Corvin
04-17-17, 09:11 PM
I've been trying to move a lot of my CDs onto my computer and into iTunes, and I've got all that I've done so far backed up on a jump drive.

My quandary is that some albums, like Pink Floyd's The Wall, for instance, seque all or certain songs together. When they're broken up into individual tracks, they start and end weirdly, and if I'm listening to the entire album sequentially, there are annoying pauses between the tracks that disrupt the intended flow of the music.

Does this not bother those of you who are going all digital, or have you found some miracle work-around so that this doesn't occur?

I haven't checked in a long while, but I never found a workaround. Just the nature of the digital beast. I listen to a lot of prog/concept albums so a lot of songs segue into the next. The digital gap sucks.

That's one of the reasons why I keep the cd in the car for a few months to get some solid listening in before switching to digital.

The Bus
04-18-17, 10:13 AM
When they're broken up into individual tracks, they start and end weirdly, and if I'm listening to the entire album sequentially, there are annoying pauses between the tracks that disrupt the intended flow of the music.

Does this not bother those of you who are going all digital, or have you found some miracle work-around so that this doesn't occur?

iTunes and Spotify have settings so you can ensure there's no gap in playback... You can even have them crossfade into each other.

DaveNinja
04-18-17, 11:28 AM
I have way too many CDs in boxes in my garage. Mostly the 1st and 2nd albums my band put out.

Rival11
04-18-17, 12:04 PM
I used to like that feature from Amazon. I bought a few physical CDs from Amazon that had that feature so I use to stream those albums. Then i started noticing some songs didn't sound like I remembered, so i pulled out the actual CDs, played them on my cheap portable Disc player and there was a world of difference in quality (at least to my ears) the mp3 sounded all muffled compared to the actual CDs. Haven't used that feature ever since

I'm going to guess that you're talking about a while back? It sounds like you are as that is when Amazon used the variable bit rate (256 kbps variable bit rate) basically - any song plays up to 256 kbps but the bit rate will lower based on when the song calls for it (when the content data is less dense) - It's a real shitty format IMO.

They don't use that format anymore though (even though their website help section says they do) I've seen some of the songs I've downloaded at almost 300 kbps - this is in turn is the "256 kbps constant rate" - hence the odd bit rate sizes you will see for your songs - I do not have a problem with this format - songs sound great.

Also, if you want to upload your music to Amazon (believe they cap you at 250 free songs to upload then you need to pay to upload more) they will keep whatever format you use when you upload - even FLAC.

slop101
04-18-17, 12:38 PM
CDs? See deez nuts! Ha! Got eem!

Jason
04-18-17, 01:00 PM
iTunes and Spotify have settings so you can ensure there's no gap in playback... You can even have them crossfade into each other.

You can link tracks in iTunes when importing from CD. If you buy the digital edition of, say, Dark Side of the Moon, you're not going to be able to permanently link tracks that should be one to begin with.

milo bloom
04-18-17, 01:03 PM
Just bought about 10 CDs from the thrift store yesterday for $1 a piece. I'm planning on flipping 2 of them, but the rest are for me. My prefers to have everything digital, and I have a ton of stuff on my phone, but I still like being able to put in a CD in my car, and just listen to an album. A few years ago, she convinced me to downsize my collection, and we got rid of some chaff (Joshua Kadison...why?) but there were a few titles I regret getting rid of.

Greg MacGuffin
04-18-17, 08:42 PM
You can link tracks in iTunes when importing from CD. If you buy the digital edition of, say, Dark Side of the Moon, you're not going to be able to permanently link tracks that should be one to begin with.

This is true; however, I recently discovered a setting on iTunes that allows you to group songs together after the fact. If you tag each song/file using the "grouping" field, you can link songs together so that they play sequentially.

So, for example, you can tag the first five songs of Dark Side of the Moon as "Dark Side of the Moon - Side One." I find this really helpful, as I like to use the shuffle mode a lot and songs will play in the appropriate order without any awkward breaks or gaps.

Ash Ketchum
04-21-17, 10:38 AM
Recent yearly tally of CDs purchased:

2013: 27
2014: 38
2015: 14
2016: 8
2017: so far only 2

I retired in Sept. 2015, so I started buying less. Most of them are J-pop, so the music is not easy to access any other way. I went through a period where I was discovering Japanese singers on a regular basis and buying up cheap CDs to sample them at Book Off and now I've got boxes filled with them and most of them I probably won't listen to again, so I may have to cart them back to Book Off and get pennies on the dollars I spent on them. As it stands, I only follow a few groups and singers these days (all J-pop) and the trend among these acts is fewer and fewer CD albums and I don't feel like buying all their singles anymore.

When I buy CDs I usually transfer them to iTunes and listen to them that way, but since the titles are all in Japanese, I don't always know which albums are which. The iTunes account is only on my desktop which is in the living room. I really need another portable CD player so I can listen to them when working in the bedroom. Do they even make those anymore?

rbrown498
04-21-17, 10:08 PM
Most of them are J-pop, so the music is not easy to access any other way. I went through a period where I was discovering Japanese singers on a regular basis and buying up cheap CDs to sample them at Book Off and now I've got boxes filled with them and most of them I probably won't listen to again, so I may have to cart them back to Book Off and get pennies on the dollars I spent on them. As it stands, I only follow a few groups and singers these days (all J-pop) and the trend among these acts is fewer and fewer CD albums and I don't feel like buying all their singles anymore.

Not to hijack the thread or anything, but what groups do you listen to these days, Ash? I'm a fan of Japanese music too, but I tend more toward the J-Indie artists like Fantastic Plastic Machine, Rip Slyme, Cornelius, Love Psychedelico, and, of course, Pizzicato Five. As far as pure J-Pop goes, I guess that Perfume and Utada Hikaru are the only artists that I listen to on a consistent basis.

Ash Ketchum
04-22-17, 04:30 AM
Not to hijack the thread or anything, but what groups do you listen to these days, Ash? I'm a fan of Japanese music too, but I tend more toward the J-Indie artists like Fantastic Plastic Machine, Rip Slyme, Cornelius, Love Psychedelico, and, of course, Pizzicato Five. As far as pure J-Pop goes, I guess that Perfume and Utada Hikaru are the only artists that I listen to on a consistent basis.

In answer to your question, I just finished watching the latest concert DVD from Morning Musume. It was at Budokan and it was just fantastic. Yeah, I'm a Hello! Project fanboy. (I've seen MM live six times, twice in America and four times in Japan.) So I follow all the groups under the H!P umbrella. When I'm done with this I have to practice J-pop songs for karaoke today. I usually do H!P songs, but I may go old-school today and do some Yumi Arai, Megumi Hayashibara and Anri.

I have friends who are big fans of Perfume and go to their concerts when they come to NYC. One of them is leading his band in a live performance of Perfume tunes two weeks from now. The closest I've gotten was watching the Perfume documentary, WE ARE PERFUME: WORLD TOUR 3RD DOCUMENT, on the plane to Japan last year. I liked the film and I liked the three members but I'm just not a big fan of that particular style of music. Momoiro Clover came to NYC last year and I went to that concert, but I don't actually follow them. As for Hikaru Utada, I like her and I have some of her CDs, but I don't follow her closely.

Apologies to the rest of you, we now return you to the "Do you still buy CDs" discussion already in progress. :shrug:

Paul_SD
04-22-17, 08:08 PM
When I buy CDs I usually transfer them to iTunes and listen to them that way, but since the titles are all in Japanese, I don't always know which albums are which. The iTunes account is only on my desktop which is in the living room. I really need another portable CD player so I can listen to them when working in the bedroom. Do they even make those anymore?

I rip everything to iTunes and then every few days I load up my iPad with a different assortment/playlists and use that for my jukebox. Works beautifully.

Because my iPad is doing triple duty as far as being a comic book archive and a vid display for watching mp4 rips of old TV shows, I don't have the space to fully max out music as much as I'd like, but I can still fit about 15-20 albums (in ALAC) along with about 10 hours of TV content with the space left (it's a 64gb iPad 2).

My dream right now is to get a higher capacity iPad- either a 126gb or 256gb- and just have that dedicated to audio and video content. With 60+gb allocated solely to music, I'd be set for weeks/months at a time.

Giles
04-23-17, 09:00 AM
I've been trying to move a lot of my CDs onto my computer and into iTunes, and I've got all that I've done so far backed up on a jump drive.

My quandary is that some albums, like Pink Floyd's The Wall, for instance, segue all or certain songs together. When they're broken up into individual tracks, they start and end weirdly, and if I'm listening to the entire album sequentially, there are annoying pauses between the tracks that disrupt the intended flow of the music.

Does this not bother those of you who are going all digital, or have you found some miracle work-around so that this doesn't occur?

My 2017 Acura TL adds gaps in between each separate track which drives me batty - "Abbey Road" near the end which merges three songs together / as well as the dozens of dance DJ 'mix' albums I own - I though did discover yesterday that after the car's HDD system ingests/copies the CD if I take out the CD, put it back in , the gaps disappear (wtf?)

Giles
04-23-17, 09:10 AM
I still buy CDs.

Storage is a pain but the albums I buy tend to be albums that work best as a whole rather than a collection of songs, and more often than not, it's WAY cheaper than buying digitally, iTunes or whatever, and that's to say nothing of sound quality. I still have a CD player in my car (along with a USB port) so I can play whatever I want too.

I get why people don't want the physical items and would just rather stream everything through their devices, and it is tempting, but that shit just devalues the music to me, and I prefer CDs and vinyl, because I actually like my music and prefer it presented to me in the best manner possible, even if storing it might be a pain.

Tell me about it - I've found some plastic slips online that hold the CD, the booklet AND the back cover - being able to chuck the jewel case has been a godsend

noah7117
05-17-17, 01:39 AM
No, I don't.

Alan Smithee
05-20-17, 09:27 PM
I'm a bit surprised jewel cases are still around- though I don't ever change the packaging my media comes in, I've always hated jewel cases since they BREAK so damn easily! You could drop one on a soft carpet and it'll likely break! (My oldest CD, Madonna's Like a Virgin bought in 1985, had its jewel case broken during its first year though I was able to glue that one back together and it's held since then.) The record labels were even trying to get rid of them as soon as 1985 since they cost a bit to make; Warner put out Prince's Around the World in a Day and Motley Crue's Theater of Pain in cardboard sleeves resembling small LP covers, with a longer folding cardboard piece around them to match the longboxes they were using for jewel cases. (I've kept all my longboxes too! :) ) Jewel cases made CDs seem more special when they were brand-new, but right now I wouldn't mind if they went to LP-style sleeves (the size of a CD, of course.)

slop101
05-20-17, 10:50 PM
I'm a bit surprised jewel cases are still around- though I don't ever change the packaging my media comes in, I've always hated jewel cases since they BREAK so damn easily! You could drop one on a soft carpet and it'll likely break! (My oldest CD, Madonna's Like a Virgin bought in 1985, had its jewel case broken during its first year though I was able to glue that one back together and it's held since then.) The record labels were even trying to get rid of them as soon as 1985 since they cost a bit to make; Warner put out Prince's Around the World in a Day and Motley Crue's Theater of Pain in cardboard sleeves resembling small LP covers, with a longer folding cardboard piece around them to match the longboxes they were using for jewel cases. (I've kept all my longboxes too! :) ) Jewel cases made CDs seem more special when they were brand-new, but right now I wouldn't mind if they went to LP-style sleeves (the size of a CD, of course.)
But jewel-cases are easier to replace than the paper/digi-pack type cases. If a jewel case breaks, you can easily pop out the paper inserts into a new jewel case. But if the sleeve tears or the hub on those dig-packs break, you're kinda screwed. Though admittedly, that doesn't happen as often.

PhantomStranger
05-21-17, 12:23 AM
Most major labels have dropped jewel cases for new releases. Virtually every new Pop/Rock album on CD comes in a digipak or mini-LP sleeve these days.

The only exception seems to be legacy acts, which tend to have much older fans.

B5Erik
05-21-17, 12:42 AM
I still won't pay for downloads. I've had 4 different computers crap out on me over the last 15 years. I like having my physical CD's there to either listen to or to rip to MP3's. I can do the digital thing or play a physical disc depending on what kind of player I have available to me.

I've bought 8 CD's so far this year, and I'm planning on buying several more. A replicated CD is the perfect long term storage media.

PhantomStranger
05-21-17, 02:29 PM
Agreed that CDs will last longer than most anyone reading this forum. I worry more about the availability of optical drives that can play them in 10-15 years.

Ky-Fi
05-21-17, 02:58 PM
I never really made the transition to digital. I guess I just never saw the need--I have a CD player at home, in the car and at work, and that's where I am about 95% of the time I want to listen to music. And they sound great. I don't have anything against digital (I'm not really enough of an audiophile to notice major differences in quality), but it just seemed like a lot of work to make the transition, and I couldn't see a big benefit given the way I listen to music.

I've probably only bought 25 albums in the digital format, and most of those I've burned to CDs.

morriscroy
05-21-17, 04:45 PM
Agreed that CDs will last longer than most anyone reading this forum. I worry more about the availability of optical drives that can play them in 10-15 years.

Even with almost all of the dvd patents expiring over the next 10-15 years, the question is whether it is profitable enough to still be manufacturing cd/dvd computer drives.

These days a generic bog standard internal cd/dvd computer drive is around $20 a pop or less. How much profit is there in such a $20 drive?

hdnmickey
05-22-17, 08:56 AM
I still buy CD's when I like the album enough to warrant a purchase. Admittedly it happens far less often than it used to given my taste in music.

And the vast majority new releases still come in jewel cases. I was checking them out at two different B&M's this weekend. And unlike 10 years ago, I walked out of both stores without buying a single title. Personally I too like well done jewel cases better than digipaks. SO many digipaks don't come with booklets and they are produced so cheaply they wear very, very quickly.

Troy Stiffler
05-22-17, 09:10 AM
Spotify has properly replaced my interest in owning CD's. I started using Amazon's player, but was disappointed by the selection. But Spotify seems to have everything.

morriscroy
05-22-17, 09:18 AM
I was checking them out at two different B&M's this weekend. And unlike 10 years ago, I walked out of both stores without buying a single title.

This was a regular occurrence for me since the mid-2000s. By then, I was mostly doing special orders at local record stores.

Eventually I found it was easier and less expensive to order less popular cd titles from amazon, than doing special orders at local record stores.

mndtrp
05-22-17, 12:41 PM
I only buy discs in a couple of instances, preorders that come with extras, or in person at a concert. I'm more likely to buy discs from local bands than anyone else.

Everything else I buy tends to come from Bandcamp. Having the ability to download both FLAC and MP3 for the same price is great. I back up my hard drives, so I'm not worried about losing them. I do need to start up an off-site backup, which would put me a full step above physical media in case of fire loss.

Why So Blu?
05-22-17, 12:58 PM
Have not bought a CD in years. I just do vinyl and an occasional digital album.

I will be buying a CD package soon, though, because an indie band I like has an IndieGoGo campaign going and they're funding a 4-disc boxed set for release later this fall. Shit like that -- I am totally down for especially when it's a band you actually like and follow.

milo bloom
05-22-17, 01:05 PM
I bought a CD this weekend, a single of Gwen Stefani's Hollaback Girl (the Bananas song).

Pretty much all of our other music is digital, but I'll still pick up singles as collectibles like this.

rjh_54
06-21-17, 09:22 PM
I've drastically cut down my CD purchases over the past year or so since I joined Spotify Premium.

I actually collected CDs (and still do to an extent). I've refused to buy anything on iTunes for the past 10 or so years - if I'm paying $10 to $15 for an album I want to hear, I'll buy a hard copy for the same price, or sometimes even less.

I will say, though, that the past few albums I've bought have been Target Exclusive editions so I can have the extra tracks that aren't on Spotify - and every now and then if there are a few songs from a few albums I want to hear I'll bring the CDs in the car with me, I find it much easier to just swap out the discs than trying to locate a particular song in my library from my phone while I'm on the go. With Spotify I've been a lot more selective lately, and I still enjoy collecting CDs, but now I'm in no rush with albums that don't have exclusives. If I like it I'll revisit it in a few months when the price of the CD goes down, and if I still like it then I'll buy the CD.

I have accumulated about 600 - 700 CDs. I've gotten rid of tons and made so many blind-buys at secondhand stores and through used CD sales - some of which I haven't even listened to, so I'm overdue for a clean out. I'll probably end up getting rid of a lot, only keeping albums that are my all-time favorites, exclusive editions, or rare and OOP stuff.

Kedrix
07-11-17, 02:44 PM
I only buy a handful of cds a year these days. I do have over 400-500 cds (and about 50 I'm trying to get rid of)...but it is all stuff at least 10-15 years old (if not much older). In fact, I'm about to grab the 20th Anniversary of Motley Crue's Dr. Feelgood because my original cd (yes...it's probably 20+ years old) is beat to shit (because I've probably played it about 500 times) and for me that's one of my top 20 favorite discs (and Amazon is selling it for a mere $7 and change). But that's a rarity, honestly....not that I don't enjoy cds, but because I have everything I pretty much want.

dvdjunkie32
07-12-17, 02:40 PM
I still mostly buy cds. I hate the digital age. I miss renting a movie at Blockbuster, music stores and the excitement of an artist releasing a new album. I enjoy the jewel case cover art. I can't stand those flimsy cardboard cd releases.

I recently discovered House of Lords and have been buying their entire cd catalog. Now I am doing the same with Harem Scarem. Ironically, it was Pandora that turned me onto these bands. haha

morriscroy
07-14-17, 05:46 AM
I recently discovered House of Lords and have been buying their entire cd catalog. Now I am doing the same with Harem Scarem. Ironically, it was Pandora that turned me onto these bands. haha

(As an aside).

One really rare Harem Scarem release was their 1990 demo, which appeared to be a cd released back when it was still a novelty and not ubiquitous. (Back in the day, demos were typically released on cassette).

I don't know if this demo cd was ever re-released.

morriscroy
07-14-17, 06:12 AM
If you're into House of Lords, another band you might want to check out is Giuffria which was the previous band of House of Lords' keyboard player Greg Giuffria.

Back in the day, I use to listen to Giuffria's "Silk and Steel" cd over and over again.

LiquidSky
07-14-17, 07:08 PM
I purchase CDs and vinyl

d2cheer
07-17-17, 10:55 AM
I will never get rid of them. Still buy them and as some have stated I hate the digital shit too. The sound quality will never be the same as vinyl or CD's.

The Infidel
07-18-17, 07:29 PM
The collector in me still has pretty much every CD I've ever bought/acquired, but they're all ripped into digital for going mobile. The physical CD is just too much of an inconvenience nowadays. But, every time I go to Goodwill I'm always looking for the occasional hidden gem in the stacks.

Alan Smithee
07-18-17, 07:53 PM
CDs are an "inconvenience"? You must never have used a reel-to-reel tape machine!

flansered
07-19-17, 10:29 AM
When you can plug 1 USB into your car with hundreds of songs rather than have to lug a bunch CDs around, then yeah, CDs are an inconvenience.

nando820
07-19-17, 12:09 PM
I still buy the occasional CD, but its mostly albums where most of the songs I enjoy.
I currently have 518 titles between CDs and Vinyls. I went through a big cleanup last year before moving so most of that stuff is here to stay

dvdjunkie32
07-20-17, 06:49 PM
If you're into House of Lords, another band you might want to check out is Giuffria which was the previous band of House of Lords' keyboard player Greg Giuffria.

Back in the day, I use to listen to Giuffria's "Silk and Steel" cd over and over again.

Thanks for the recommend. I'm always looking for new bands in that same vein. I'm surprised House of Lords never made much of a blimp on the rock scene. Their song "Rock bottom" is so heavy and has all the traits of a hit single.

d2cheer
07-21-17, 01:26 PM
Thanks for the recommend. I'm always looking for new bands in that same vein. I'm surprised House of Lords never made much of a blimp on the rock scene. Their song "Rock bottom" is so heavy and has all the traits of a hit single.

One of the best remakes of a song EVER!!

https://youtu.be/lj66pOiOUMk

Osiris3657
07-21-17, 02:09 PM
Last CD I bought was American Idiot by Green Day in 2004.

Jason
07-21-17, 03:15 PM
I was just looking at buying several CD sets today. I've been getting into 1970's fusion jazz, and there are several budget sets with multiple albums in reproduction sleeves instead of jewel boxes. Five albums for $15-20 is cheaper than digital downloads and takes a lot less space than individual discs.

Alan Smithee
07-21-17, 05:19 PM
Yep, I've bought a few of those- they should've done that YEARS ago. The price of movies on disc gets dropped after they've been out a while, but most albums either stay the same or have even gone up in some cases.

Ky-Fi
07-21-17, 05:36 PM
Yeah, I've gotten several of those budget sets in the cardboard sleeves: Big Audio Dynamite, Simple Minds, Ultravox, Siouxsie--I love those sets.

mcnabb
07-24-17, 06:41 AM
I am mostly a Classic Rock fan, so I bought most of my CD's in the early 90's when the technology took over for Cassettes and Vinyl.

I still buy an occasional CD, but I pretty much finished my collection a long time ago, and converted them all to my Ipod so there isn't much left to buy.

morriscroy
07-24-17, 09:35 AM
I am mostly a Classic Rock fan, so I bought most of my CD's in the early 90's when the technology took over for Cassettes and Vinyl.

I still buy an occasional CD, but I pretty much finished my collection a long time ago, and converted them all to my Ipod so there isn't much left to buy.

Similar sentiments here too. (Though I don't have an ipod and rarely listen to music outside of the home).

I more or less got all the stuff I wanted on cd back in the late-80s and early-90s.

Nowadays the only cds I'm still tempted to buy, are re-releases with tons of extra stuff which looks interesting. For example, such as: old demo tapes, unreleased albums, vintage live concerts, etc ....

Otherwise if it is just one or two mediocre unreleased tracks (from studio outtakes) tacked on to the original album being done as a re-release cd, then I won't bother unless I find it for $5 or less.

morriscroy
07-24-17, 10:01 AM
(More generally).

Nowadays it seems like many of these "extra tracks" on re-released cds, frequently end up youtube shortly after release.

If a re-released cd sounds interesting, I'll check out the "extra tracks" which show up on youtube (however brief). If I like what I hear, I'll pick up such re-released cd titles.

As an example, a number of years ago Ozzy Osbourne's "Diary of a Madman" and "Blizzard of Oz" were re-released with the original drum + bass tracks reinstated, along with some extra tracks. I listened to the live concert on the second cd from Diary of a Madman, and liked what I heard. So I purchased the 2-cd re-released version.

In contrast, the re-released "Blizzard of Oz" cd didn't really have much extra stuff which caught my attention. (One extra track was a guitar solo outtake, which showed up youtube and other online sites). So I didn't bother buying it for many years, until I saw it in the local dump bins for $5.


(As a long rambling offtopic aside).

By the mid 2000s, I was getting sick and tired of buying re-released/compilation cd titles which turned out to be mostly mediocre "extra tracks" or really lousy demos and other unreleased stuff. (Later I found out some of these cd compilations of unreleased material I had, were crappy bootlegs which I didn't know at the time. Annoying to find out that I was unintentionally buying bootlegs which sounded like the tape was being eaten up).

I can see why some bands didn't want some of these old demos, concerts, and other unreleased relics being released back in the day.

It was heartbreaking finding an unreleased "holy grail" title on cd, just to find out it was complete shit.

After too many instances of this, by the mid-2000s I gave up and didn't bother wasting any more time searching for hypothetical "holy grail" titles on cd (whether real or perceived).

Nowadays such "holy grail" shit titles, frequently end up on youtube in all their "tape eating sounding" glory. ;)

mcnabb
07-24-17, 11:20 AM
I more or less got all the stuff I wanted on cd back in the late-80s and early-90s.
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I know there are many factors that killed CD's (Napster, ITunes, MP3, etc.) in the late 90's/early 00's, but I do wonder if we were a factor by finishing up our collections in the early 90's. I just remember being in High School in the early 90's and all of my friends (including me) were buying CD's left and right and upgrading our collection from crappy Cassette Tapes. By the mid 90's, I would sporadically buy CD's of newer bands but not at the rate I was buying in 1989, 1990, 1991, etc.

You wonder if they didn't make CD's last a lifetime, they could have churned out another generation on us (Similar to VHS to DVD to BluRay), but I still my first CD's of The Who, The Doors, The Beatles I bought in 1989 with my first DVD player and they sound just as great today.

morriscroy
07-26-17, 08:22 AM
I know there are many factors that killed CD's (Napster, ITunes, MP3, etc.) in the late 90's/early 00's, but I do wonder if we were a factor by finishing up our collections in the early 90's. I just remember being in High School in the early 90's and all of my friends (including me) were buying CD's left and right and upgrading our collection from crappy Cassette Tapes. By the mid 90's, I would sporadically buy CD's of newer bands but not at the rate I was buying in 1989, 1990, 1991, etc.

(In addition).

At times I wonder how many of the big customers of cds back in the 80s and early-90s, were then-middle-aged baby boomers who were replacing their old vinyl collections with cd versions of the same titles from their 50s-60s era youth.

DVD Josh
07-26-17, 08:55 AM
I was an early adopter of CD burners. I think my first one burned at 1x speed. I remember getting a 4x burner and thinking how far the technology had advanced. Now if its not burned in 2 mins. I get impatient, lol.

Falc04
07-30-17, 06:02 AM
I have over 1,000 CDs, and will never get rid of them. Been collecting since the mid 80s, and still make occasional purchases from SecondSpin (just picked up The Police's "Message In A Box", which I'm loving). I'll never forget first listening to Pink Floyd's "Wish You Were Here" song on CD in the late 80s, and hearing one of the band members have a slight cough, before David Gilmore's guitar started. Had listened to that song countless times on vinyl before, never never picked up on it. That convinced me that CDs were the only option. Took my 500 or so records, and disposed of them in a dumpster (which, in hindsight, probably was a stupid thing to do)

Alan Smithee
07-31-17, 02:30 AM
Ugh- I would've gone in and saved them! :)

B5Erik
07-31-17, 01:39 PM
I just ordered 9 Rock Candy Records reissues of some classic 80's albums on remastered CD's.

I can't wait to get my hands on them!

Michael Corvin
08-01-17, 09:01 PM
I should have an autographed copy of Kenny Wayne Shepherd's newest CD in my mailbox any day now.


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