DJariya

Episode 11 of 16

JZ1276

Good episode tonight. Showed that Eugene never really made any progress in becoming less of a coward, even though there were a couple of episodes that tried to show otherwise.

Couple of questions...
Can someone explain why Dwight framed the doctor because that completely went over my head.

Also, Eugene was bullshitting Negan in fear of getting killed like he did with Abraham & Rosita, attempting to come across much smarter than he really is correct?

This episode really made Eugene an unlikable character showing how quickly he succumbed to Negan after Abraham was just brutally murdered by him.

BTW, Lindsley Register (Laura) is pretty fkn hot.

hdtv00

Or how many hours later and you're the only comment shows the curtain has been pulled on this shit of a show.

windom

Hey, looks like I was right about Eugene: http://forum.dvdtalk.com/12967311-post29.html

I'm hoping Eugene is smart enough and just playing the long con on Negan...something Daryl couldn't do.

andicus

Not a bad episode, IMHO.

However, WTF are they talking about with pouring hot metal on the walkers to keep them from falling apart? That's bordering on one of the most ridiculous things they've ever proposed.

JZ1276

Yeah, a lot of the things the characters have been doing lately is extremely far fetched. You have the liquid metal on the walkers, Dwight's plan with the doctor whatever he was doing there leaving the note in his desk. Then there was last week with Richard's plan to kill some Saviors & leave a trail to Carol's house to frame her for it.

I highly doubt it.

dom56

Is Yars' Revenge the only videogame Eugene ever play? How about popping in Adventure.

Abob Teff

Yes, yes she is ... I just posted some pics in the random picture thread.



About the episode ... Eugene goes dark and I love it. Finally something that makes sense ... Eugene has seen how his BS cover story helpd to keep him alive, but this is the first time it has been able to put him in a real position of power. I'm sure he had been bullied all his life and now he has control.

Yes, the story is BS as evidenced by his reaction when the wife actually wanted to talk about the Human Genome Project.

I'm sure there will be plenty of bitching, but I thought this was a damned good episode. Other than the walker conveniently falling apart at that moment.

Dwight framed the doctor to save his wife. The doctor was the only other person who Negan trusted who also seemed to have some understanding of who she was as a person. He was the only obstacle to Dwight's cover story of killing her (so Negan would not go looking for her).

Flatlander

I think he chose the doctor thinking that Negan would not kill the only doctor there. Dwight probably thought he would "only" get the iron and that would buy him some time to plan an escape by getting Negan off the trail of his wife. I don't think he thought Negan would kill him and when Negan said we have another doctor and looks at Eugene, I could see that back firing.

The metal part, I assumed he was thinking about that walker he and Abraham found in the gun press building that Eugene tried to kill but he couldn't due to it having metal spilled on it head. Far fetched but the fetch was already set up with that scene from previous season.

TGM

best episode in awhile. although that's not saying much.

Bill Needle

I thought it was pretty enjoyable. Well except for the molten iron walker nonsense. What do you suppose a 2500F iron bath does do to human flesh? That is some real Wile E. Coyote type thinking there.

JZ1276

Why would Negan go looking for her when Dwight said he killed her?

Abob Teff

Flatlander -- good catch. I had forgotten about that. My question is this: if you covered the lower half (or any movable area) in molten metal, how would they move? Bill Needle, yeah. But it could be fun!

JZ -- I think it is obvious Negan doesn't trust Dwight when it comes to her. "Oh, I killed her." "Yeah, right. Where is any evidence of that?"

VinVega

I watched the episode. I'm in it until the end at this point.

JZ1276

You have a point but then again why would he send Dwight to find her to begin with? Storyline makes little sense.

mcnabb

I'm sorry guys but I loved this show before Negan came into the picture. All I heard from the comic book readers is 'wait for Negan'....

I never bitched about this show Pre-Negan but his episodes frankly bore the hell out me. I really liked the first two episodes after the Midseason but this was brutal.

Deftones

So was Eugene playing along or was he truly enjoying the "power"of his situation? All those little smirks make me think he was playing the inside man, but it is hard to tell with that character

andicus

Yeah, I actually thought that (that they wouldn't want to kill the doctor). The fact that Negan wouldn't realize that PhD != MD is absurd.

Regarding the metal, they may have set up the head part, implausible as it is, but the idea that pouring metal over the body could maintain its integrity is beyond ridiculous, even for TWD. Even if it 'could' do that, what would be the point? It couldn't walk. It'd just be pinned to the fence (Eugene even mentioned that), like the gut-spilling walker already was. Just a terrible plot device to let Eugene appear to show his worth.

Abob Teff

Negan asked Dwight if he knew where she would go, Dwight said yes. However, why send him alone?

Paff

Didn't notice. There was a redhead in the way.



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Coral

I thought that was ridiculous as well.

Before you go killing your only doctor (and probably the only doctor for many many miles) - you may want to find out if Mr. Smartypants with the PhD is actually a medically trained doctor of medicine first.

I wonder if JDM has to see a back specialist when he's done with TWD as he's always bending backwards.

gcribbs

I just do not understand why the showrunner can not figure out how to jump between groups instead of doing a whole episode about a single group.

It really kills the show for me since at times it can be 3-4 weeks before we see some of the characters.

I was underwhelmed by the episode and the molten metal idea was stupid although I bet they show it working which is even more laughable.

It would burn off the flesh of the walkers including their eyes and noses.

I guess if any muscle tissue survives that is also still connected by tissue to the joints they might be able to grab at things that bump into them of course since likely their mouths would be possibly covered they could not even bite anyone.

To be fair likely the doctor they had was likely just a general practitioner anyway so someone well educated could sew up cuts and clean wounds.

Not like they have full staffed hospitals with functioning operating rooms anyway so most injuries would be a death sentence especially since any bites are auto kill anyway.

Koby

A lot of this is actor contracts. We get 16 episode seasons where actors are only contracted for like 11-13 of them. So we have various episodes where certain actors will not appear as a result.

stingermck

Which is dumb. They have the money. Spend it, or trim the eps. Which they wont do because of money. Meanwhile GOT is like here is 50 characters, enjoy.

Holy Yars Revenge sighting. That was one of my favs on Atari.

dex14

I'm pretty checked out of this show at this point.

Let me get this straight... Daryl escaped in Episode 8... then we have a two month break. Two episodes air post-Daryl escape and events after this. Then we go back in the timeline to when Daryl escaped during Episode 11? Seems a little clunky to me. I know Lost did stuff like this, but it was much better written and structured.