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Paff
02-17-17, 01:41 AM
I looked for a thread on this, and couldn't find one other that a few that were dedicated to just one specific artist. I'm wondering what everyone thinks of this trend; bands that will play a classic album from their library in it's entirety. On one hand, I like that it will lead to some obscure songs being played. Many times, my favorite song by a band will not be the "hits" from the record, and the chances of ever hearing it live are slim to none. But on the other hand, it takes out all the spontaneity of a live performance. Nothing worse than knowing the exact set list before you walk in the door.

The first time I saw this was two years ago when X played their first two albums in order. Loved the idea at first, as those are simply classic albums. But then when I KNEW I wasn't gonna hear anything from Under the Big Black Sun or some of their experiments with country, it was ultimately a rather dull show. Saw them later that year, at a more typical show, and it was a million times better.

Next up is Adam Ant this weekend, who will be playing Kings of the Wild Frontier. Hopefully he'll add some other Ants songs, as well as some of his better solo material. But I'm keeping my hopes up, as Kings is easily the best Ants album and I'm looking forward to seeing him perform some of the stranger songs on that record.

creekdipper
02-17-17, 02:39 AM
I tend to agree re: taking the spontaneity out of the act.

I'd add that there aren't that many albums that flow from beginning to end even from my favorite acts (those with all surviving members). I'd think that some shorter albums might make for a good set of a long concert (Eagles: Desperado) except most of the principal players from that album are retired or dead. Same with The Band (eponymous album), Who's Next, etc. I'm sure that Fleetwood Mac fans might go for Fleetwood Mac/Rumours being played back-to-back. Springsteen did that recently with early album (River? Darkness?)...I wouldn't mind hearing him do Nebraska solo in its entirety.

Most artists that we like to see live (R. Thompson, G. Welch) have a lot of strong tunes we like that are a mix of old & new (and covers); rather see that than an entire album.

One album I could support being performed in its entirety is Arcade Fire's The Suburbs. That one flows nicely with some variety and isn't overwhelmed by big hits vs. deep cuts.

mphtrilogy
02-17-17, 07:50 AM
I saw Steely Dan a few years ago at the Beacon theater in NYC, they played the Royal Scam, it was great, then they played the hits after they finished the record.

great show.

BearFan
02-17-17, 09:46 AM
Maiden did A Matter of Life and Death start to finish, I really liked the album and it flowed well. Though in general I am not a big fan of playing albums ... there just are not that many out there that deserve it

The Cow
02-17-17, 09:50 AM
I like it when they are concept albums like The Wall, or Operation:Mindcrime where there is a show built around it. In Queensryche's case they played other stuff after the album part. And on another tour they did Mindcrime I & II.

Josh-da-man
02-17-17, 10:03 AM
I saw QR do Mindcrime in its entirety back in '91.

Also saw Rush do the full "Moving Pictures" album on the Time Machine tour in '10.

I think those are the only two I've seen live.

The Cure took this to the extreme with their Trilogy concert(s?). They performed Pornography, Disintegration, and Bloodflowers in their entirety.

Dan
02-17-17, 11:24 AM
I drove 200 miles just to see Brand New perform the entirety of The Devil and God are Raging Inside Me. They played a few songs from their other albums first, then dove into that album, start to finish.

It was worth the drive. :up:

DaveNinja
02-17-17, 12:18 PM
years back saw Devo 'are we not men?'. last month saw Lemuria play 'get better'

Michael Corvin
02-17-17, 12:43 PM
Dream Theater did a half dozen shows years ago where they did their regular set and the encore was a full album from another artist. i.e. they did Master of Puppets beginning to end. I want to say they did a Rush album one night and a Maiden one another. I think they did 6 shows total like this with 6 different albums.

Fielding Mellish
02-17-17, 12:47 PM
I saw Boston on the "Third Stage" tour in Detroit. After playing a couple hits, Scholz said "Now we're gonna play the new album."

I remember asking my friend if I misheard what was said... as they proceeded to play Third Stage in its sequential order.

The Cow
02-17-17, 01:03 PM
Dream Theater did a half dozen shows years ago where they did their regular set and the encore was a full album from another artist. i.e. they did Master of Puppets beginning to end. I want to say they did a Rush album one night and a Maiden one another. I think they did 6 shows total like this with 6 different albums.

I forgot about that. I know they did do Dark Side of the Moon.

Mike Long
02-17-17, 01:36 PM
Here's another vote for having seen Queensryche do Operation: Mindcrime and I also saw My Chemical Romance do The Black Parade.

slop101
02-17-17, 04:08 PM
Manic Street Preachers (one of my favorite bands) played my favorite album of theirs, The Holy Bible, for it's 20th anniversary in 2015.

They rarely come to the US, but they made it to the Fonda Theater (one of my favorite venues in LA), and it was a spectacular performance of a very difficult album, both musically and thematically.

Why So Blu?
02-17-17, 04:12 PM
I saw The Sounds in December and they played Dying To Say This To You (their second album) in its entirety for the 10th anniversary. In the Fall of 2014 I saw Offspring and they played Smash in its entirety for its 20th anniversary.

I think it's kind of cool when bands do this, because they also do a separate regular set in addition to the album one.

rw2516
02-18-17, 06:57 AM
Only one I've seen was the 1977 Animals Tour of Pink Floyd. Although they played the entire Animals album the sequence wasn't exactly the same as the album. They also played the entire Wish You Were Here album in sequence.

I think seeing Back in Black played in it's entirely would fucking rock. Could care less about spontaneity. The first Van Halen album also.

Seeing bands early in their career, when their catalog is limited, gives a chance to hear every song from the first albums, just not in sequence.
Saw Foreigner in 1978. Every song from first album plus Double Vision and Hot Blooded.
Saw Boston in 1979. Every song from first album was played.
Saw Aerosmith open for Lynyrd Skynyrd in 1974. Get Your Wings album was just released. I was not familiar with them at the time and wonder what stuff they may have played that has never been played since that I couldn't appreciate at the time.

slop101
02-18-17, 08:12 AM
Oh yeah, back in '95, or '96, I saw The Who do all of Qudrophenia, with special guests Billy Idol as "the punk" and Gary Glitter (before he was arrested for being a sicko pedophile) as the Godfather.
Entwistle was still alive, Zach Starky (Ringo Star's son) was on drums, who's been the 2nd best drummer the Who have had, with Townsend's brother on electric (who's a better player than Pete), and Pete on acoustic, who's a really good rhythm player. Daltry was in top from back then. It was pretty epic, with a great A/V show as well and we had great floor seats at Honda Center (where Mighty Ducks play).

Paff
02-18-17, 01:03 PM
Obviously it's ok with concept albums; I'd never complain if The Who played Tommy or Quadrophenia sequentially and in their entirety. I'll have a better opinion of this after the Adam Ant show tonight. The X show I mentioned earlier, once they'd played Los Angeles and Wild Gift, there was not much time for anything else. I'm not expecting a "Thank you goodnight!" as soon as Adam finishes playing The Human Beings, 45 minutes into the set tonight.

Ky-Fi
02-18-17, 05:23 PM
I saw Echo and the Bunnymen do Crocodiles and Heaven up Here in full in 2011--sounded great. And I saw Peter Hook and the Light perform New Order's Low Life and Brotherhood in 2014, which was another fun show.

So yeah, I guess I am a fan of these. With most of my favorite albums, I've always listened to them from beginning to end many times, and of course the song order of the albums was usually part of the whole artistic intent of the band--so it's neat to have that experience recreated live.

hdnmickey
02-18-17, 05:45 PM
I would expect that the OP was not thinking of bands with only one or two album releases playing a whole album. That is almost a given at that point. Probably should have at least five or more out before it become a big deal to only focus on one album during a show.

As somebody that also saw Mindcrime I agree with the idea that it makes sense for "concept albums" to be done as a whole. But not a fan of it otherwise. Most albums just don't flow as well as a huge set, and even some classics have a couple lesser songs.

What would probably go over just as well, if not even better than whole album trend, is to do a set of songs never played live or even just a set made up of songs from a prior period that haven't been played live on at least a few prior tours.

So many 20+ year bands could easily do this rather than doing the whole album thing. So many classics off older albums haven't been played in years in favor of the same standards that are there on every tour. And as much as I love Rush, and their 40 Anniversary tour, it could have been so much better if every song after the latest album (they worked backwards) was one that hadn't been played live in years. They mixed it up a little, but many of the tired standards were still included.

dtcarson
02-18-17, 05:47 PM
I agree about concept albums - I would love to see King Diamond perform "Them" straight through (Conspiracy as an encore?) but artists with large discographies, i think I'd prefer a variety.

Ginwen
02-18-17, 06:12 PM
Seems ok with a band like X that I've seen a lot of times, but if it's someone I'm only going to see once, I'd rather see a mix.

I did see The Breeders do Last Splash, but they at least played a few other songs at the end. Still would've rather had a regular show since I've only seen them once.

tommyp007
02-18-17, 06:26 PM
I was lucky enough to see Prince live 5 times. I would have paid pretty much any ticket price to see him do Sign O' the Times in it's entirety.

Barth
02-18-17, 07:58 PM
I saw Boston on the "Third Stage" tour in Detroit. After playing a couple hits, Scholz said "Now we're gonna play the new album."

I remember asking my friend if I misheard what was said... as they proceeded to play Third Stage in its sequential order.

Wow, wish I could have been at that one. I love that album start to finish.

hdnmickey
02-18-17, 08:14 PM
Wow, wish I could have been at that one. I love that album start to finish.

It was pretty awesome. Brad's voice was still in top form. And given it was only their third album, most of the classics off the other two albums got played as well.

kd5
02-18-17, 08:22 PM
Saw Genesis (w/ Peter Gabriel) perform The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway in its entirety, then follow up with several songs from Nursery Cryme & Foxtrot (Watcher of the Skies, Supper's Ready, etc.). I would expect to see something like that sequentially and it was a damn fine performance complete with costumes. It was one of the best concerts I've ever had the priviledge of attending and I've seen Pink Floyd twice (Wish You Were Here and Animals).

beavis69
02-18-17, 08:26 PM
Saw Megadeth play Rust in Peace and it was fantastic. Also saw Weezer play Blue Album and Pinkerton both in one concert. Was cool cause they told stories between songs about the time period from both albums. Would kill to see Opeth do My Arms, Your Hearse. If you know going in that they are doing that I think its fine. I wouldn't want to be surprised with a full album though.

bd007h
02-18-17, 09:14 PM
I'll be seeing Third Eye Blind play their 1997 eponymous debut in full this summer as they tour for it's 20th Anniversary.

The Offspring will also be playing their 1997 album Ixnay on the Hombre in full this summer for it's 20th but not anywhere near me :(.

Jason
02-19-17, 07:02 AM
I saw Rush play Moving Pictures in its entirety on the Time Machine tour. I was also one of the unfortunate souls who saw Dream Theater play The Astonishing last time around.

Speaking of Dream Theater, I thought the full album cover thing was something they did when playing multiple shows at the same venue. They also released several of these as unofficial bootlegs. I have Master of Puppets, Dark Side of the Moon, Number of the Beast and Made in Japan. After seeing the last tour, I can't believe they were ever cool enough to do this type of thing.

Edit: Also saw Roger Waters perform The Wall. Epic stuff.

02-19-17, 07:29 AM
I actually enjoy the concept. Most of the bands who are doing it are classic rock acts, who have been touring for decades. Do I really need to go see Steely Dan for the fifth time, playing the same greatest hits setlist? Not so much. But the last time I went, they played 'The Royal Scam' and 'Aja' in their entirety, and it was a blast.

mndtrp
02-19-17, 11:25 AM
I like it, but only if the band is doing what is essentially two sets. One set being the album, another set of the hits or whatever else. If a band is ONLY doing the album, and maybe one or two other songs, I'm not as pleased.

Full albums I've seen live:

Roger Waters - The Wall This was only that album, since it's so long.
Roger Waters - Dark Side of the Moon Hits, then the album, then a few more songs from other albums.
Gary Numan - The Pleasure Principle The album first, then another set of his hits.
Amon Amarth - Surtur Rising Again, album first, then another set of hits.
Jane's Addiction - Ritual de lo Habitual I think they had a couple of songs planned for after the album, but they got cut short.

Chrisedge
02-19-17, 06:42 PM
I saw X do albums as well, but they only did one album per night, for the first four albums, four nights in a row...So they did a ton of songs each night besides the "album"...I recorded (audio/video) the entire thing and it's around if you look. :)

I also saw Bob Mould do Copper Blue, Rush doing Moving Pictures and Jane's Addiction do Ritual de lo habitual...And U2 is coming up doing the Joshua Tree and I am doing two nights of that.

Paff
02-19-17, 08:28 PM
Well, I'm still on the fence about it after seeing Adam Ant perform Kings of the Wild Frontier last night. It was good to hear a lot of those songs, which I'm almost willing to bet they didn't always perform when that album was new. And I remember seeing Adam Ant solo in the 80s, and we always hoped he'd play some old Ants songs. So it was fantastic to hear nearly an hour straight of JUST Adam and the Ants songs.

But still, it felt so....scripted. He played about 45 more minutes after the Kings album, and I loved the unpredictability of that part of the concert (even though it's the exact same songs he's played this entire tour; I chose not to look that up till later in order for it to be a surprise for me).

So ultimately I think I prefer a balance, where they mix in obscure songs from their library and not just do a "greatest hits" concert (which let's face it, many older touring acts are basically their own tribute band), but in a mix and not just in the order of a single album.

B5Erik
02-25-17, 12:00 PM
Maiden did A Matter of Life and Death start to finish, I really liked the album and it flowed well.

I saw Iron Maiden on that tour, too. It was a great show. The crowd was surprisingly into the new material (not as much as the classics, but there was genuine enthusiasm there).

inri222
02-25-17, 02:03 PM
Queensryche - Operation Mindcrime
Rush - Moving Pictures
Gary Numan - Pleasure Principle
Dave Smalley (Dag Nasty) - Can I Say
Peter Hook (Joy Division) - Closer

majorjoe23
02-25-17, 02:52 PM
I saw Public Enemy perform "It Takes a Nation of Millions to Hold Us Back" twice. But Flavor Flav wasn't there the second time and it was pouring rain, so that performance kind of sucked.

I find it interesting when bands do this, because the most popular track on an album (or a band's entire catalog) might be song 3 on that album, so what is usually saved for the last song of the set is suddenly an early show song. It really changes the energy and dynamic of a performance.

For those complaining about the lack of spontaneity, don't look at band setlists online. Unless they're a jam band or a solo singer-songwriter, the setlist they played in Cleveland is likely the same one they played in Chicago and Des Moines and Omaha and Denver and on and on.


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