Scenes that serve no purpose
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Scenes that serve no purpose
Inspired by Iron Man 2, which I have seen too many times.
Later in IM2, there is a whole scene with Justin Hammer, Rhody, and Rhody's superior officer in a hangar. After seeing it countless times, I still don't understand its purpose or how it advances the story one bit.
It starts with Hammer going crazy at the sight of the Iron Man suit and promises to upgrade the software. Right. He doesn't have the source code and the suit is likely millions of lines of code. It would take him years to even learn what the code does.
Then he goes into a big sales pitch for some guns, culminating with that silly "Ex Wife" missile, at which Rhody says he'll take all of it.
Ok, then what?
It's an utterly pointless scene and a waste of a solid five minutes.
So what movie scene sticks out in your mind as a waste of space?
Later in IM2, there is a whole scene with Justin Hammer, Rhody, and Rhody's superior officer in a hangar. After seeing it countless times, I still don't understand its purpose or how it advances the story one bit.
It starts with Hammer going crazy at the sight of the Iron Man suit and promises to upgrade the software. Right. He doesn't have the source code and the suit is likely millions of lines of code. It would take him years to even learn what the code does.
Then he goes into a big sales pitch for some guns, culminating with that silly "Ex Wife" missile, at which Rhody says he'll take all of it.
Ok, then what?
It's an utterly pointless scene and a waste of a solid five minutes.
So what movie scene sticks out in your mind as a waste of space?
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Inspired by Iron Man 2, which I have seen too many times.
Later in IM2, there is a whole scene with Justin Hammer, Rhody, and Rhody's superior officer in a hangar. After seeing it countless times, I still don't understand its purpose or how it advances the story one bit.
It starts with Hammer going crazy at the sight of the Iron Man suit and promises to upgrade the software. Right. He doesn't have the source code and the suit is likely millions of lines of code. It would take him years to even learn what the code does.
Then he goes into a big sales pitch for some guns, culminating with that silly "Ex Wife" missile, at which Rhody says he'll take all of it.
Ok, then what?
It's an utterly pointless scene and a waste of a solid five minutes.
So what movie scene sticks out in your mind as a waste of space?
Later in IM2, there is a whole scene with Justin Hammer, Rhody, and Rhody's superior officer in a hangar. After seeing it countless times, I still don't understand its purpose or how it advances the story one bit.
It starts with Hammer going crazy at the sight of the Iron Man suit and promises to upgrade the software. Right. He doesn't have the source code and the suit is likely millions of lines of code. It would take him years to even learn what the code does.
Then he goes into a big sales pitch for some guns, culminating with that silly "Ex Wife" missile, at which Rhody says he'll take all of it.
Ok, then what?
It's an utterly pointless scene and a waste of a solid five minutes.
So what movie scene sticks out in your mind as a waste of space?
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That scene explains how the War Machine suit has all the weapons that weren't initially on it when Rhodey took it from Stark, it sets up a joke (the ex-wife missle being a dud in the battle) plus its the only scene where you get to see Hammer doing his thing as Stark's competitor.
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That scene explains how the War Machine suit has all the weapons that weren't initially on it when Rhodey took it from Stark, it sets up a joke (the ex-wife missle being a dud in the battle) plus its the only scene where you get to see Hammer doing his thing as Stark's competitor.
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This thread is gonna quickly turn into people just listing moments in movies they don't like.
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I liked the rave scene / sex scene in Matrix Reloaded. Humanity, fuck yeah!
My vote is for Aragorn falling off a cliff in Lord of the Rings. Maybe he's dead? Nope. And it doesn't affect anything else that happens.
My vote is for Aragorn falling off a cliff in Lord of the Rings. Maybe he's dead? Nope. And it doesn't affect anything else that happens.
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Batman v Superman - Wonder Woman looking through the "Justice League" files (Aquaman, Flash and Cyborg). I totally get why they did it - "Look, kids! The JLA! Coming soon to a theater near you!". But the way it's introduced is so clumsy in the context of the scene (Bats discovers that WW is older than dirt). It's the only time that I was completely taken out of the movie (I enjoyed BvS).
If anything, they should have saved it for after
Batman could have said "I have an idea. Here are some candidates." Cut to credits.
If anything, they should have saved it for after
Spoiler:
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Just for fun, I'll argue the fast-motion sex scene in A Clockwork Orange serves no purpose. It doesn't tell us anything we don't already know. We've seen Alex being charismatic, we've seen the reverence he has for music, and we've seen his sexual appetite.
There is a symmetry to the structure of A Clockwork Orange, in which the people Alex encounters in the first part of the movie return in the last half, only the balance of power is no longer in Alex's favour. The bum, his parents, his former droogs, the writer. The two girls never come back, because--well, why should they? He didn't harm them, they just got together for some consensual sex. In the book, there is a scene where Alex leeches after a couple of 12 year olds (I can't remember if he is successful in bedding them or not) but in the movie they appear to be the same age as Alex, just a couple of fun time girls.
If that scene was removed from the movie, we wouldn't lose any information about the character, it wouldn't hurt the story plot-wise or thematically. Other than being an excuse for Kubrick to shoot naked people, it serves no purpose.
There is a symmetry to the structure of A Clockwork Orange, in which the people Alex encounters in the first part of the movie return in the last half, only the balance of power is no longer in Alex's favour. The bum, his parents, his former droogs, the writer. The two girls never come back, because--well, why should they? He didn't harm them, they just got together for some consensual sex. In the book, there is a scene where Alex leeches after a couple of 12 year olds (I can't remember if he is successful in bedding them or not) but in the movie they appear to be the same age as Alex, just a couple of fun time girls.
If that scene was removed from the movie, we wouldn't lose any information about the character, it wouldn't hurt the story plot-wise or thematically. Other than being an excuse for Kubrick to shoot naked people, it serves no purpose.
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Just for fun, I'll argue the fast-motion sex scene in A Clockwork Orange serves no purpose. It doesn't tell us anything we don't already know. We've seen Alex being charismatic, we've seen the reverence he has for music, and we've seen his sexual appetite.
There is a symmetry to the structure of A Clockwork Orange, in which the people Alex encounters in the first part of the movie return in the last half, only the balance of power is no longer in Alex's favour. The bum, his parents, his former droogs, the writer. The two girls never come back, because--well, why should they? He didn't harm them, they just got together for some consensual sex. In the book, there is a scene where Alex leeches after a couple of 12 year olds (I can't remember if he is successful in bedding them or not) but in the movie they appear to be the same age as Alex, just a couple of fun time girls.
If that scene was removed from the movie, we wouldn't lose any information about the character, it wouldn't hurt the story plot-wise or thematically. Other than being an excuse for Kubrick to shoot naked people, it serves no purpose.
There is a symmetry to the structure of A Clockwork Orange, in which the people Alex encounters in the first part of the movie return in the last half, only the balance of power is no longer in Alex's favour. The bum, his parents, his former droogs, the writer. The two girls never come back, because--well, why should they? He didn't harm them, they just got together for some consensual sex. In the book, there is a scene where Alex leeches after a couple of 12 year olds (I can't remember if he is successful in bedding them or not) but in the movie they appear to be the same age as Alex, just a couple of fun time girls.
If that scene was removed from the movie, we wouldn't lose any information about the character, it wouldn't hurt the story plot-wise or thematically. Other than being an excuse for Kubrick to shoot naked people, it serves no purpose.
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That scene explains how the War Machine suit has all the weapons that weren't initially on it when Rhodey took it from Stark, it sets up a joke (the ex-wife missle being a dud in the battle) plus its the only scene where you get to see Hammer doing his thing as Stark's competitor.
Thanks for the clarification.
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As already mentioned, "The Room" immediately comes to mind. There are so many pointless scenes it's simply mind-boggling.
One scene that had me scratching my head was when Johnny and Mark go to a coffee shop.
We first get to witness 2 couples (ie. extras) order their coffee/desert at the counter for some inexplicable reason... before Johnny/Mark put in their order. And then after Mark makes a quick comment about being tired of women/relationships, this brilliant exchange of dialogue ensues:
Mark: How was work today?
Johnny: Oh, pretty good. We got a new client, and the bank will make a lot of money.
Mark: What client?
Johnny: I cannot tell you. It's confidential.
Mark: Aw, come on. Why not?
Johnny: No, I can't. Anyway, how's your sex life?
Mark: I can't talk about it.
Johnny: Why not? Oh, God, I have to run.
Mark: Already?
Johnny: Yeah, I'm sorry.
Mark: It's on me
Johnny: See you, Mark.
Mark: You wanna go jogging?
Johnny: Sure. What time?
Mark: Golden Gate Park, 6:30.
Johnny: Right on.
Mark: See ya.
Johhny: Okey dokey, pal.
Watching the extras put in their order lasted almost as long as that conversation - and was just as relevant to the story.
One scene that had me scratching my head was when Johnny and Mark go to a coffee shop.
We first get to witness 2 couples (ie. extras) order their coffee/desert at the counter for some inexplicable reason... before Johnny/Mark put in their order. And then after Mark makes a quick comment about being tired of women/relationships, this brilliant exchange of dialogue ensues:
Mark: How was work today?
Johnny: Oh, pretty good. We got a new client, and the bank will make a lot of money.
Mark: What client?
Johnny: I cannot tell you. It's confidential.
Mark: Aw, come on. Why not?
Johnny: No, I can't. Anyway, how's your sex life?
Mark: I can't talk about it.
Johnny: Why not? Oh, God, I have to run.
Mark: Already?
Johnny: Yeah, I'm sorry.
Mark: It's on me
Johnny: See you, Mark.
Mark: You wanna go jogging?
Johnny: Sure. What time?
Mark: Golden Gate Park, 6:30.
Johnny: Right on.
Mark: See ya.
Johhny: Okey dokey, pal.
Watching the extras put in their order lasted almost as long as that conversation - and was just as relevant to the story.
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Batman v Superman - Wonder Woman looking through the "Justice League" files (Aquaman, Flash and Cyborg). I totally get why they did it - "Look, kids! The JLA! Coming soon to a theater near you!". But the way it's introduced is so clumsy in the context of the scene (Bats discovers that WW is older than dirt). It's the only time that I was completely taken out of the movie (I enjoyed BvS).
If anything, they should have saved it for after
Batman could have said "I have an idea. Here are some candidates." Cut to credits.
If anything, they should have saved it for after
Spoiler:
Spoiler:
If you put the Justice League stuff after that scene then you are leaving the theater thinking about Flash, Wonder Woman, Aquaman, and the Justice League. All of a sudden Superman is an afterthought.
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Does this scene make people feel uncomfortable? It's very light and comedic in tone. I think it's way at the bottom of the list of uncomfortable scenes in A Clockwork Orange.
I'm not saying it isn't a good scene, only that a strong argument can be made that it serves no purpose in the overall film.
I'm not saying it isn't a good scene, only that a strong argument can be made that it serves no purpose in the overall film.
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Fast-forwarded through that the last time we watched Reloaded, didn't feel we missed anything of importance. I remember the first couple of times we watched it, the first time I didn't know any better, the second time I told my wife 'next time we watch this I'm fast-forwarding through this rave crap', got no argument from her.
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Inspired by Iron Man 2, which I have seen too many times.
Later in IM2, there is a whole scene with Justin Hammer, Rhody, and Rhody's superior officer in a hangar. After seeing it countless times, I still don't understand its purpose or how it advances the story one bit.
It starts with Hammer going crazy at the sight of the Iron Man suit and promises to upgrade the software. Right. He doesn't have the source code and the suit is likely millions of lines of code. It would take him years to even learn what the code does.
Then he goes into a big sales pitch for some guns, culminating with that silly "Ex Wife" missile, at which Rhody says he'll take all of it.
Ok, then what?
It's an utterly pointless scene and a waste of a solid five minutes.
So what movie scene sticks out in your mind as a waste of space?
Later in IM2, there is a whole scene with Justin Hammer, Rhody, and Rhody's superior officer in a hangar. After seeing it countless times, I still don't understand its purpose or how it advances the story one bit.
It starts with Hammer going crazy at the sight of the Iron Man suit and promises to upgrade the software. Right. He doesn't have the source code and the suit is likely millions of lines of code. It would take him years to even learn what the code does.
Then he goes into a big sales pitch for some guns, culminating with that silly "Ex Wife" missile, at which Rhody says he'll take all of it.
Ok, then what?
It's an utterly pointless scene and a waste of a solid five minutes.
So what movie scene sticks out in your mind as a waste of space?
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From The Dark Knight? Or was there a scene with him in China in BVS (didn't see it yet)?
If you're talking about TDK it makes sense. It shows that you can run from the law but you can't run from the vigilante. That leads the mob to get desperate and turn to The Joker which sets in motion the rest of the movie.
If you're talking about TDK it makes sense. It shows that you can run from the law but you can't run from the vigilante. That leads the mob to get desperate and turn to The Joker which sets in motion the rest of the movie.