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Old 09-28-15, 03:28 AM
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Gotham (S2E02) -- "Rise of the Villains: Knock, Knock" -- 9/28/15




A DEADLY ESCAPE ROCKS THE CITY ON AN ALL-NEW "GOTHAM" MONDAY, SEPTEMBER 28, ON FOX

Following his reinstatement, Gordon is thrust onto the high-profile case tracking the deadly inmate escape from Arkham Asylum. Meanwhile, Galavan plans his next move, while Bruce enlists the help of his father's old friend to unlock the secrets in his office, and Nygma attempts to ask out Kristin Kringle (guest star Chelsea Spack) on a date in the all-new "Rise of the Villains: Knock, Knock," episode of GOTHAM airing Monday, Sept. 28 (8:00-9:00 PM ET/PT) on FOX. (GTH-202) (TV-14 L, V)

Cast: Ben McKenzie as Detective James Gordon, Donal Logue as Harvey Bullock, Michael Chiklis as Detective Nathaniel Barnes, Sean Pertwee as Alfred, Robin Lord Taylor as Oswald Cobblepot/The Penguin, Erin Richards as Barbara Kean, David Mazouz as Bruce Wayne, Camren Bicondova as Selina Kyle/the future Catwoman, Cory Michael Smith as Edward Nygma/the future Riddler, James Frain as Theo Galavan, Jessica Lucas as Tabitha Galavan, Chris Chalk as Lucius Fox, Nicholas D'Agosto as Harvey Dent, Drew Powell as Butch Gilzean, Zabryna Guevara as Captain Sarah Essen

Guest Cast: Richard Kind as Mayor James, Chelsea Spack as Kristin Kringle, Cameron Monaghan as Jerome, Will Brill as Arnold Dobkins, Stink Fisher as Aaron Helzinger, Dustin Ybarra as Robert Greenwood, Thom Sesma as Barthel, Maria Thayer as Scottie

Episode 2 of 22

9 more episodes will air this Fall
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Re: Gotham (S2E02) -- "Rise of the Villains: Knock, Knock" -- 9/28/15

This was a pretty brutal episode.
Liking the kid playing Joker.
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Re: Gotham (S2E02) -- "Rise of the Villains: Knock, Knock" -- 9/28/15

Now this was an episode of a show I could get behind. Probably the most I've enjoyed this show since it started.
Cameron Monaghan is killing it as The Joker.
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Re: Gotham (S2E02) -- "Rise of the Villains: Knock, Knock" -- 9/28/15

They should have had the young Joker simply going by "J". It's jarring every time I hear him called Jerome.

This episode definitely ups the ante. As crazy as this show has been in the past, I was expecting that bus to actually catch on fire with the cheerleaders melting to death. Why would anyone ever willingly join the Gotham City Police Department?

On a side note, everyone into Batman's villains should watch this video at least once. Trust me, it's worth it.

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/MkWJb8GoLwo" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

The episode's writer fed Lucius Fox some awful dialogue. Fox To Bruce: "I loved your father. I regret never telling him that." That is a whole new layer they are adding to the mythos of Batman. I understood what the lines were intended to convey but terrible phrasing by Gotham's staff.
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Re: Gotham (S2E02) -- "Rise of the Villains: Knock, Knock" -- 9/28/15

I love this show. Canon destroyer or no, I think it is pretty unique on television. That was a lot of stuff to happen in one episode and I had no idea where this was going. The Joker is great and the bit with Lucius and Alfred was awesome. Brutal episode though and it was very cinematic.
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Re: Gotham (S2E02) -- "Rise of the Villains: Knock, Knock" -- 9/28/15

This show is infinitely better now that they've dropped all the Fish bullshit.
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Re: Gotham (S2E02) -- "Rise of the Villains: Knock, Knock" -- 9/28/15

awesome episode last night
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Re: Gotham (S2E02) -- "Rise of the Villains: Knock, Knock" -- 9/28/15

When Sarah spit on Jerome I was so hoping he would say "Refreshing!"
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judging by the top image I anticipate some huge board angst over Selina
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Re: Gotham (S2E02) -- "Rise of the Villains: Knock, Knock" -- 9/28/15

Originally Posted by Geddlo
This was a pretty brutal episode.
Liking the kid playing Joker.
Kid? He's a grown adult.

Ugh, is this on demand. Dtv ruined everythig I recorded last night due to rain.
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Re: Gotham (S2E02) -- "Rise of the Villains: Knock, Knock" -- 9/28/15

Yeah, the guy playing Jerome is fucking awesome. I hope they make him into the Joker.
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Re: Gotham (S2E02) -- "Rise of the Villains: Knock, Knock" -- 9/28/15

Originally Posted by Deftones
Yeah, the guy playing Jerome is fucking awesome. I hope they make him into the Joker.
Can't imagine he is not. Everything about him screams Joker.
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Re: Gotham (S2E02) -- "Rise of the Villains: Knock, Knock" -- 9/28/15

Originally Posted by johnnysd
Can't imagine he is not. Everything about him screams Joker.
Everything except the fact that the producers have suggested he's NOT the Joker. He may just be the inspiration for him.
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Originally Posted by whotony
Kid? He's a grown adult.
He's 22 in real life, the character he's playing is 18.
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Re: Gotham (S2E02) -- "Rise of the Villains: Knock, Knock" -- 9/28/15

Originally Posted by JTH182
This show is infinitely better now that they've dropped all the Fish bullshit.
this, this, this, 1000x fucking this.
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Re: Gotham (S2E02) -- "Rise of the Villains: Knock, Knock" -- 9/28/15

I like this supposed setup of the Joker, but at the same time, doesn't it bother anybody that he is basically doing a Nicholson impersonation? At least a couple of the line readings were exact copies. Not a bad thing if you liked (as I did) his take on the character. Seemed the guy playing Fox did the same thing with Freeman.

But I love it since I'm just happy they dumped the Fish/Mob shit and are getting to something that resembles the show I suspect most expected.

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Re: Gotham (S2E02) -- "Rise of the Villains: Knock, Knock" -- 9/28/15

I loved the Nicholson Joker, so I like it.
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Re: Gotham (S2E02) -- "Rise of the Villains: Knock, Knock" -- 9/28/15

He was taking cues from a couple different Jokers, including Nicholson and Mark Hamill's animated version.
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Re: Gotham (S2E02) -- "Rise of the Villains: Knock, Knock" -- 9/28/15

Loved this. It was insane and full of surprises. I just wish Riddler would get more screen time. Dude is awesome. And also surprised there was no Penguin. Very excited to see what happens next on this show. And man, Barbara is smoking hot!
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Re: Gotham (S2E02) -- "Rise of the Villains: Knock, Knock" -- 9/28/15

Originally Posted by PhantomStranger
He was taking cues from a couple different Jokers, including Nicholson and Mark Hamill's animated version.
Yup. I feel I saw parts of every Joker in there... Romero, Nicholson, Hamill, Ledger... in there.
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Re: Gotham (S2E02) -- "Rise of the Villains: Knock, Knock" -- 9/28/15

If only there were such a thing as psych meds in Gotham, Batman would never have any problems...
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Re: Gotham (S2E02) -- "Rise of the Villains: Knock, Knock" -- 9/28/15

Originally Posted by Red Dog
I loved the Nicholson Joker, so I like it.
The comment was about the many out there that feel his was the worst. Just Jack being Jack rather than actually playing a character. I always thought they had a good point despite the fact I still liked it. I doubt those people are OK with this guy doing his best Jack impersonation. I noticed a couple nods to Hamill/BTAS, but the vast majority seemed be to be Jack, Jack, Jack.

Makes me wonder if we'll get impersonation after impersonation as each character eventually becomes the familiar villain that has been done before. Even Penguin could end up morphing into something done before now that the Fish's lackey crap is over.
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Re: Gotham (S2E02) -- "Rise of the Villains: Knock, Knock" -- 9/28/15

Barbara appeared to be wearing Harley Quinn's colors under her jacket, including red gloves.
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Re: Gotham (S2E02) -- "Rise of the Villains: Knock, Knock" -- 9/28/15

I'll be pretty disappointed if this ends up being some sort of proto-Joker.
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Re: Gotham (S2E02) -- "Rise of the Villains: Knock, Knock" -- 9/28/15

Originally Posted by Lifepawn
Barbara appeared to be wearing Harley Quinn's colors under her jacket, including red gloves.
I'm uncomfortable finding crazy murderous psychopaths to be hot. Could they make her less attractive?


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