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Old 03-25-15, 07:05 PM
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Arrow (S3E17) -- "Suicidal Tendencies" -- 3/25/15




"Suicidal Tendencies" - (8:00-9:00 p.m. ET) (Content Rating TBD) (HDTV)

DIGGLE MARRIES LYLA; THE SUICIDE SQUAD RIDES AGAIN - It's celebration time as Diggle (David Ramsey) and Lyla (guest star Audrey Marie Anderson) get married. However, Deadshot (guest star Michael Rowe) interrupts their honeymoon and tells them the Suicide Squad has been given a new mission - rescue United States Senator Joseph Cray (guest star Steven Culp) from a hostage situation in the Republic of Kasnia. Amanda Waller (guest star Cynthia Addai-Robinson) breaks down the mission and introduces them to the newest member of the Suicide Squad, Cupid (guest star Amy Gumenick). Meanwhile, Oliver (Stephen Amell) learns about Ray's new Atom costume and the two have a heated stand-off. Felicity (Emily Bett Rickards) and Ray hit a rough patch. Jesse Warn directed the episode written by Keto Shimizu (#317). Original airdate 3/25/2015.

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Re: Arrow (S3E17) -- "Suicidal Tendencies" -- 3/25/15

Meh this was an ok episode. The SS stuff felt like it didn't belong at all(especially the flashbacks) but I thought the team Arrow stuff was ok. I also liked the ending and thought that was pretty good. It almost felt like they had two seperate scripts that were unfinished and said "screw it just combine them both".

What a lame debut for Ray's Atom armor. I know Oliver had to defeat him but couldn't they have thought of something better than "I hope no one notices or aims for the big blinking box on the side of my suit of armor" solution?
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Re: Arrow (S3E17) -- "Suicidal Tendencies" -- 3/25/15

Enhance!
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Re: Arrow (S3E17) -- "Suicidal Tendencies" -- 3/25/15

I never thought we'd get Hawkeye fighting Iron Man on a DC show!

Does anyone really think Deadshot died in that explosion? I like that crazy villainess, she's a fun background character.

Routh must have been sick filming this episode. His voice sounded congested at times and it looked like he was dealing with pink eye.

Points to Arrow's staff for switching the flashback to Deadshot. The episode flowed so much better without the boring Oliver in Hong Kong flashbacks.
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Re: Arrow (S3E17) -- "Suicidal Tendencies" -- 3/25/15

I doubt that Deadshot actually died in that explosion. I think he used it as an excuse to get away from working for Waller and company. But, I'm sure we'll see him again.

Yeah I liked this episode overall and I liked how they gave us a background flashback to Deadshot's past. The Ollie flashbacks haven't really worked, so I appreciated the different perspective. I've enjoyed Lyla popping in every so often, but I hope the Arrow writers won't be tempted to make Audrey Marie Anderson a regular. The regular cast is already kind of bloated. But they are losing Routh at the end of the season should his Pilot get picked up.

I enjoyed seeing Cupid back. at how she kept flirting with Deadshot. She's a fun member of the Suicide Squad & is definitely whacked.

I guess we're full on back to Captain Lance becoming his season 1 version hell bent on bringing the Arrow down.
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Re: Arrow (S3E17) -- "Suicidal Tendencies" -- 3/25/15

I'm even more annoyed now that WB/DC made them use Ray Palmer instead of Ted Kord. That shit was stupid for the Atom.
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Re: Arrow (S3E17) -- "Suicidal Tendencies" -- 3/25/15

They probably killed off DEADSHOT because Will Smith if playing Lawton in the upcoming Suicide Squad movie.
Can't have multiple characters with the same name running around. Its confuses movie and tv exectives.
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Re: Arrow (S3E17) -- "Suicidal Tendencies" -- 3/25/15

which is silly since wouldn't they have to kill off the Flash in the flash tv series?

My guess is he's still alive and will pop up in the brave and the bold style show they're working on in terms of team ups.
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Re: Arrow (S3E17) -- "Suicidal Tendencies" -- 3/25/15

yeah, Deadshot isn't dead. no way.

it is funny how when the Atom was flying around, first thing in my mind was, iron man rip off!
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Re: Arrow (S3E17) -- "Suicidal Tendencies" -- 3/25/15

the actor playing Deadshot has got to be one of the worst actors I've ever seen on television.

the dramatic scene with him dramatically swigging his beer while yelling at his wife and kid... oy vey.
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Re: Arrow (S3E17) -- "Suicidal Tendencies" -- 3/25/15

This has pretty much become smallville redux without the best part...Erica durance.
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Re: Arrow (S3E17) -- "Suicidal Tendencies" -- 3/25/15

Can someone explain to me the rules of killing in this show?

Oliver "has not killed someone in 2 years" yet he killed half a dozen in their assault on the assassins

In the assaults on the "red shirt criminal of the week" he has killed several

Yet there is this huge deal about him not killing anyway. Completely confused.
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Re: Arrow (S3E17) -- "Suicidal Tendencies" -- 3/25/15

Are those confirmed kills by Oliver? I think they are going with the idea that Oliver is such a gifted bowman that he's hitting non-lethal areas to incapacitate his enemies.

Oliver's current code of non-killing doesn't look as strident as Batman's personal code. I think it does vary slightly from episode to episode, depending on which person is actually writing the episode.
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Re: Arrow (S3E17) -- "Suicidal Tendencies" -- 3/25/15

yeah, it's no different than when Reese shoots guys in Person of Interest. He's not killing them. He's only wounding them.
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Re: Arrow (S3E17) -- "Suicidal Tendencies" -- 3/25/15

Assassins are like Nazis. You get a pass on killing them.
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Re: Arrow (S3E17) -- "Suicidal Tendencies" -- 3/25/15

What's weird is Team Arrow makes a big deal about him no longer killing people when Diggle and his wife have killed several. I liked that he was okay with killing his enemies in season one and wished they never would've made a big deal about him quitting.
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Re: Arrow (S3E17) -- "Suicidal Tendencies" -- 3/25/15

Huge season ending(?) spoiler for The Flash & Arrow:


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Re: Arrow (S3E17) -- "Suicidal Tendencies" -- 3/25/15

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What's weird is Team Arrow makes a big deal about him no longer killing people when Diggle and his wife have killed several. I liked that he was okay with killing his enemies in season one and wished they never would've made a big deal about him quitting.
I like when they give him a balance. Not the Punisher yet not Batman either. Fine with using extreme force when needed yet not as crazy the the Punisher or annoying at Batman is about it. *I will get myself killed trying to save the joker type of attitude) (really dislike that)
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Re: Arrow (S3E17) -- "Suicidal Tendencies" -- 3/25/15

Um... Maybe I missed it, but Roy was knocked, seemingly, unconscious by the random lightning attack from Ray, correct? And he didn't get back up during the "fight" that ensued.

So, when Oliver turned and walked away from Ray... Did he just leave Roy lying there in the ground?
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Re: Arrow (S3E17) -- "Suicidal Tendencies" -- 3/25/15

In the comics didn't Waller implant explosives into the Suicide Squad members to keep them from going rogue? You'd think after Deadshot died/disappeared she'd set it off just to be safe.

Loved Oliver shooting at armor with arrows. He's not exactly a genius is he?
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Re: Arrow (S3E17) -- "Suicidal Tendencies" -- 3/25/15

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Um... Maybe I missed it, but Roy was knocked, seemingly, unconscious by the random lightning attack from Ray, correct? And he didn't get back up during the "fight" that ensued.

So, when Oliver turned and walked away from Ray... Did he just leave Roy lying there in the ground?
I didn't think of that but Oliver saw Roy blasted dozens of feet away.
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Loved Oliver shooting at armor with arrows. He's not exactly a genius is he?
Soon Oliver will be quipping he needs superpowers to keep up with all these new heroes. Someone in the Justice League once called Green Arrow out for being just a normal guy with trick arrows. It might have been Batman.
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Re: Arrow (S3E17) -- "Suicidal Tendencies" -- 3/25/15

Originally Posted by Eric F
In the comics didn't Waller implant explosives into the Suicide Squad members to keep them from going rogue? You'd think after Deadshot died/disappeared she'd set it off just to be safe.

Loved Oliver shooting at armor with arrows. He's not exactly a genius is he?
I think they want to keep Deadshot's death ambiguous.
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Re: Arrow (S3E17) -- "Suicidal Tendencies" -- 3/25/15

Originally Posted by bychance
I think they want to keep Deadshot's death ambiguous.
Looks like DC is blocking future appearances in the show. Thanks Suicide Squad movie.




Bonus:
This episode's "synopsis"
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Re: Arrow (S3E17) -- "Suicidal Tendencies" -- 3/25/15

It's not DC but the movie division's call on Deadshot. He must be a critical player in that Suicide Squad movie.


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