Homeland (S4E12) -- Season Finale -- "Long Time Coming" -- 12/21/14
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Homeland (S4E12) -- Season Finale -- "Long Time Coming" -- 12/21/14
Series 4 ends with Carrie and Saul returning to the U.S. and investigating what she saw in Islamabad.
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Re: Homeland (S4E12) -- Season Finale -- "Long Time Coming" -- 12/21/14
Due to unforseen circumstances tonight's final of Homeland has been replaced with an episode of Days Of Our Lives. The network sincerely apologises for this inconvenience. Thankyou.
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Sort of sucks that this is basically a set up for next season, but I'm interested in hell to see where it goes.
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It's horrible. Felt like it could have easily been episode 1 of this season and the whole rest of the season was just wasted time. They managed to destroy in one episode the rebuilt faith I had in this show over the latter half of the
Season.
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Re: Homeland (S4E12) -- Season Finale -- "Long Time Coming" -- 12/21/14
What a waste of an episode... nevermind it being a finale.
No real cliffhanger, no resolution, nothing important really happened that could've have been shown in 5 minutes. I get they need to do some of the father's funeral thing - but even after that it was still pretty bare.
So I guess we're going to be seeing the mother from now on... because the father is dead and apparently we need to see more family drama? Ugh.
Do we really need a Quinn/Carrie romance?
And someone tell the actor playing Quinn to shave his chin stubble. He barely has any facial hair and he just looks like a high school kid hitting puberty.
No real cliffhanger, no resolution, nothing important really happened that could've have been shown in 5 minutes. I get they need to do some of the father's funeral thing - but even after that it was still pretty bare.
So I guess we're going to be seeing the mother from now on... because the father is dead and apparently we need to see more family drama? Ugh.
Do we really need a Quinn/Carrie romance?
And someone tell the actor playing Quinn to shave his chin stubble. He barely has any facial hair and he just looks like a high school kid hitting puberty.
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Re: Homeland (S4E12) -- Season Finale -- "Long Time Coming" -- 12/21/14
I think they blew their budget on the previous episodes, and they were broke when they got to this one.
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Re: Homeland (S4E12) -- Season Finale -- "Long Time Coming" -- 12/21/14
She was willing to go to the press just to tell Quinn that they could go on a date?
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Re: Homeland (S4E12) -- Season Finale -- "Long Time Coming" -- 12/21/14
Wow, that was fuckin awful and I've been a huge fan of this season. It was so boring. This might have been the worst episode of the series but I may have blocked out some of the Dana heavy episodes. What trash.
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Yawn. I know it's called Homeland and that they have show repercussions on the home front, but they don't have to make it so boring.
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Was not expecting 0 resolution, complete set up for next year and an hour of family drama. Wasn't even good family drama.Oh and Saul did not sell out.
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Awful...just awful.
Now I can add toothless grandma to Carrie and her hideous baby on the list of people I wish weren't on the show.
Now I can add toothless grandma to Carrie and her hideous baby on the list of people I wish weren't on the show.
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Re: Homeland (S4E12) -- Season Finale -- "Long Time Coming" -- 12/21/14
I'm just going to play devils advocate, but in what 'TV Bible' does it say that the Season Finale has to be World War III? I think we are all trained from watching TV to expect a 'shit hit the fans season finale' for every TV show we watch, and that is why there is such disappointment in this episode among most of you here.
Last week was the real finale of the season, as that 'sort of' wrapped up everything that went on in Season 4. I liked that we have an idea of Season 5 now, as atleast it shows me they have a plan rather then ending a season and just thinking of something new out of the blue. I think they're biggest mistake is not know where to go with Brody after Season 1, and they just wrote Season 2 & 3 on the fly and the show suffered.
Of course the episode was anti-climatic, but thats only because you were watching it in the context of expecting another crazy episode. This was an episode that told me alot about Carrie and how she is her mom in many ways. She thinks of herself first in front of family, including kids, and the sad thing is Carrie didn't see it until later in the episode after her 2nd meeting.
I understand people don't want 'Carrie Drama' and I respect that, but the show is always going to be a part CIA, part personal lives of these characters. Most Cable TV shows aren't just about the plot, as they get inside the people's lives they are showing. If you want all plot and no character development, then you need to watch shows like CSI, Criminal Minds, etc, on ABC, CBS, NBC and FOX. For me, that is the reason I don't watch the old networks anymore because those shows are very shallow, whereas the Premium Channel Cable Shows (including AMC) are great at fleshing out these characters.
Last week was the real finale of the season, as that 'sort of' wrapped up everything that went on in Season 4. I liked that we have an idea of Season 5 now, as atleast it shows me they have a plan rather then ending a season and just thinking of something new out of the blue. I think they're biggest mistake is not know where to go with Brody after Season 1, and they just wrote Season 2 & 3 on the fly and the show suffered.
Of course the episode was anti-climatic, but thats only because you were watching it in the context of expecting another crazy episode. This was an episode that told me alot about Carrie and how she is her mom in many ways. She thinks of herself first in front of family, including kids, and the sad thing is Carrie didn't see it until later in the episode after her 2nd meeting.
I understand people don't want 'Carrie Drama' and I respect that, but the show is always going to be a part CIA, part personal lives of these characters. Most Cable TV shows aren't just about the plot, as they get inside the people's lives they are showing. If you want all plot and no character development, then you need to watch shows like CSI, Criminal Minds, etc, on ABC, CBS, NBC and FOX. For me, that is the reason I don't watch the old networks anymore because those shows are very shallow, whereas the Premium Channel Cable Shows (including AMC) are great at fleshing out these characters.
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I'm just going to play devils advocate, but in what 'TV Bible' does it say that the Season Finale has to be World War III? I think we are all trained from watching TV to expect a 'shit hit the fans season finale' for every TV show we watch, and that is why there is such disappointment in this episode among most of you here.
Last week was the real finale of the season, as that 'sort of' wrapped up everything that went on in Season 4. I liked that we have an idea of Season 5 now, as atleast it shows me they have a plan rather then ending a season and just thinking of something new out of the blue. I think they're biggest mistake is not know where to go with Brody after Season 1, and they just wrote Season 2 & 3 on the fly and the show suffered.
Of course the episode was anti-climatic, but thats only because you were watching it in the context of expecting another crazy episode. This was an episode that told me alot about Carrie and how she is her mom in many ways. She thinks of herself first in front of family, including kids, and the sad thing is Carrie didn't see it until later in the episode after her 2nd meeting.
I understand people don't want 'Carrie Drama' and I respect that, but the show is always going to be a part CIA, part personal lives of these characters. Most Cable TV shows aren't just about the plot, as they get inside the people's lives they are showing. If you want all plot and no character development, then you need to watch shows like CSI, Criminal Minds, etc, on ABC, CBS, NBC and FOX. For me, that is the reason I don't watch the old networks anymore because those shows are very shallow, whereas the Premium Channel Cable Shows (including AMC) are great at fleshing out these characters.
Last week was the real finale of the season, as that 'sort of' wrapped up everything that went on in Season 4. I liked that we have an idea of Season 5 now, as atleast it shows me they have a plan rather then ending a season and just thinking of something new out of the blue. I think they're biggest mistake is not know where to go with Brody after Season 1, and they just wrote Season 2 & 3 on the fly and the show suffered.
Of course the episode was anti-climatic, but thats only because you were watching it in the context of expecting another crazy episode. This was an episode that told me alot about Carrie and how she is her mom in many ways. She thinks of herself first in front of family, including kids, and the sad thing is Carrie didn't see it until later in the episode after her 2nd meeting.
I understand people don't want 'Carrie Drama' and I respect that, but the show is always going to be a part CIA, part personal lives of these characters. Most Cable TV shows aren't just about the plot, as they get inside the people's lives they are showing. If you want all plot and no character development, then you need to watch shows like CSI, Criminal Minds, etc, on ABC, CBS, NBC and FOX. For me, that is the reason I don't watch the old networks anymore because those shows are very shallow, whereas the Premium Channel Cable Shows (including AMC) are great at fleshing out these characters.
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Re: Homeland (S4E12) -- Season Finale -- "Long Time Coming" -- 12/21/14
Exactly. I constantly hear complaints that the series finale of many shows is predictable because they build up everything all season, and then you know something 'big' will happen (character death, someone turns bad, etc.) in the last episode.
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Re: Homeland (S4E12) -- Season Finale -- "Long Time Coming" -- 12/21/14
That's what i'm wondering. They squandered to go out on a high note this season. Was it episode 11 where Quinn officially went rogue? Great opportunity to stretch that out through the final two episodes in an exciting manner, but they chose to go another route. Disappointing for sure.
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Re: Homeland (S4E12) -- Season Finale -- "Long Time Coming" -- 12/21/14
All good points, mcnabb. However...
Sure, we have become conditioned to expect wham-bang/cliffhanger season finales, which is why it seemed really off tonally to introduce Carrie's-runaway-mom and her drama baggage when there are a lot of bigger arcs still open.
The ep felt filler-ish overall (though I appreciated the proper send-off to James Rebhorn) with no sense of quasi-closure. And the notion of introducting a Carrie-Quinn romance is an eye-roller.
I'm still down for next season, but with some trepidation....
Sure, we have become conditioned to expect wham-bang/cliffhanger season finales, which is why it seemed really off tonally to introduce Carrie's-runaway-mom and her drama baggage when there are a lot of bigger arcs still open.
The ep felt filler-ish overall (though I appreciated the proper send-off to James Rebhorn) with no sense of quasi-closure. And the notion of introducting a Carrie-Quinn romance is an eye-roller.
I'm still down for next season, but with some trepidation....