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Episode 7 of 22

Neil M.

That was a pretty nice twist at the end. I didn't see it coming.

chrisih8u

Awesome episode!

Baron Of Hell

I thought this was the best episode so far. Lord Voldemort was very different from the comics and video games. Of course he could go insane later down the road.

Barbra is going to be the Lois Lane of the show by getting in trouble and making things more difficult.

I like the double meaning of the title. At first I thought Penguin would get a special umbrella. Half way through I figured they meant the umbrella he is casting over everybody.

I hope they have the scary version of Calendar Man in the show. Might be to dark for this show.

johnnysd

Wow. i thought that was EXTREMELY good and a twist I did not see coming. Thought Gotham was a silly idea but it has been awesome so far. And it is so far not predictable at all.

Fist of Doom

"It's a toxic dump, built over an Indian burial ground."

"How'd you come up with that plan? Sat down with a chimpanzee and a bucket of coke?"



Loved this episode and how The Penguin's playing everyone. But one complaint: I know Gotham PD has an uneasy truce with the gangs, but no way would they let them just walk into the police station and kill one of their own.

Oh, and Barbara is an idiot.

Joe Schmoe

Really disappointed with this episode. First Gordon stupidly assumes he's safe from the 3 goons sent to take him because he's surrounded by 50 cops in the cop shop even though he knows many of them are corrupt or scared to go up against Gotham's crime families. Then he confidently tells his boss to leave because he can handle the goons. His master plan to handle them? Simply shoot them, and then he fails to do that because he's a lousy shot. He ends up getting shot twice, and he would have been caught while he was hiding behind a car in the parking garage if it weren't for those other cops showing up. Fish and Penguin are the only parts of this show that I consistently enjoy.

flashburn

You are looking at this show with way too critical and realistic eyes. It's still a comic book show, you need to be able to suspend disbelief and just roll with it sometimes.

I really liked this episode. Even though Penguin doesn't look at all what he should, I really like the casting of him. This episode kind of solidified the fact that I'd probably watch Ben McKenzie in anything.

Tom Creo

So................how is Penguin playing Falcone? Should be interesting to see that play out.


Did I miss the significance of the chickens?

The Valeyard

I thought it was a great episode! That was an awesome twist that showed how devious the Penguin really is. I haven't been too thrilled with how they were handling his character but man was I wrong! I also thought Gordon's character was handled very well this episode and for the first time I thought "THAT'S James Gordon!"

kefrank

I think it's possible you're misreading that scene. Gordon didn't "stupidly assume" anything about the 50 cops in the room protecting him. He knows the corruption that exists. He makes the statement he makes to get a clear assessment of the state of the department and also to hedge his bets while controlling the situation. If some cops happen to stay and defend him, he has a slightly better chance of survival. If no one stays (which is what he really expected), the room is cleared and none of the other police are in harms way for the shootout that Gordon is going to attempt in order to try to survive. He had already decided to stay in Gotham and put up a fight, so he was either going to go down fighting on his own (the most likely scenario in his mind - he'd already said as much to his boss) or get lucky and survive. I personally don't find any of that disappointing or out-of-step with the character.

Red Dog

Great twist at the end.

Xiroteus

That was a bit far. If the cops got really sick of all of this they could just take out a lot of the head criminals.

This town needs a Batman like Arrow was in the first season.

Basically came here to say that.

It was a good episode and she had good intentions, just really stupid ones as well.

hanshotfirst1138

So everyone there is corrupt, they don't have any interest in stopping Bullock from putting a bullet into a fellow cop right in the locker room? They're so terrified of Falcone that they'll let one of his hit men commit murder when they outnumber him 10 to 1?

Can you really survive a shot to the gut? Everyone on TV gets grazed with a bullet and keeps on ticking. Nice to see someone on television actually run out of bullets for once. A guy who just took two fresh bullets would be in the hospital for weeks, I would think. So the cop who came into the garage and is now missing both kneecaps is just going to be a forgotten plot device? She dies, very sad, but we don't know who she is?

The psychological chew game Penguin plays is really interesting.

Bullock's decision to "join the good guys" is a little arbitrary, though I suppose new right that he's dead anyway.

Jim must've known that they'd get to Barbara somehow, I saw it coming a mile away.

Nice twist, and good explanation for why Falcone was so mysteriously lackadaisical about things. We knew he knew something we didn't; and when they turn the cards over, it actually makes sense. Even Gordon got played.

Why did Penguin want Gordon alive? It made no sense for Falcone to let him go before we knew that, but even afterwards, Penguin must has some sort of ingenious further plan for him. And eventually, a man who plays both sides of the fence gets tangled in it.

Joe Schmoe

Forgot about that moment. Yeah, that's hard to believe.

Joe Schmoe

I'll admit I was hoping this show would have a similar tone to The Dark Knight Trilogy (serious and realistic), but it's more like Tim Burton's Batman movies. I'm not ready to give up on the show, but I'll have to change my expectations for it.

Kdogg

Or cowards or protecting loved ones.

RocShemp

I loved the visual nod to Batman: Year One. The scratches Fish left on Penguin's face are similar to the scratches Catwoman left on Carmine "The Roman" Falcone's face during their first encounter in Batman: Year One.

Dr. DVD

Great ep. overall. Penguin is really starting to show signs of being both the criminal mastermind and cold blooded killer from the comics. Kudos to the actor for making you kind of want him to make it one moment but then reminding you of what a scumbag he is the next.

wmansir

Overall I liked the episode, but I still had some issues. I really like the world they are building so I thought all the mob related scenes were good, the goons at Barbara's place, all the Penguin scenes, etc. I'm kind of meh on Zsasz's introduction since he bares little resemblance to the established character.

Two things I didn't like: The first was Gordon's "plan", which was obviously never going to work, particularly after he witnessed the entire police station clear out on a Falcone goon's command. For me it crossed the line from standing up for what's right to just being a dumb move.

The second thing was the visit to Bruce. It was out of place and threw off the pacing of the episode. They don't need to shoehorn the kid into every episode.

PhantomStranger

They should actually rename this series "The Penguin: Year One." I thought this was a great episode, even if you have to seriously suspend disbelief with some of the police corruption angles.

I didn't like the visit to Bruce either, I hope they figure out a better way to involve him than having Gordon run to his house for five minutes, every episode. I wonder if Barbara survives this season? I think the audience loves her, it would be a great storytelling move to have her killed off.

I think they would be in a much better spot for the long haul if Bruce and Selina were older teens. Given the ratings, this will stay on the air for the next five years. I guess a new supervillain will have to emerge each season. I was stoked to see Victor Zsasz, he's a great villain.

van der graaf

Regarding the visit to Wayne Manor, he wanted to tell Bruce he might not be able to keep his promise...in context, it makes some sense; however, they never really showed his struggle with that as a priority. If they had, the scene would have worked seamlessly...Good writers are hard to come by...

devilshalo

Well, it was a way to introduce him to Montoya and Allen. I was kinda hoping Montoya would have rubbed it in and said, "so you know, Jim, Barb likes her pussy eaten a certain way."

Tom Creo

Yeah, that was gonna be said on FOX. Step your game up devilshalo.

Orbi-Wan Techno

I was starting to get a little, um, bored with Gotham (last week just did NOT grab me like it did others) , but man, did I love this episode. The nun roadblock was fun, and Zsasz was very entertaining. And the twist with Penguin (my favorite character) was unexpected. This show has really found it's footing.