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Old 07-06-14, 11:08 AM
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The Leftovers (S1E02) -- "Penguin One, Us Zero" -- 7/06/14





In the wake of a series of disturbing encounters, Kevin pays a visit to a therapist. Tom finds himself in a precarious situation with Christine (Annie Q), a favorite of Wayne's. A frustrated Meg is asked to part with pieces of her past. Jill and Aimee tail Nora Durst (Carrie Coon), who became a local celebrity when her entire family disappeared in the Departure.

Written by Damon Lindelof & Kath Lingenfelter; directed by Peter Berg.


Episode 2 of 10



So no one is going to be watching episode 2 right? Since a lot of you thought the Pilot was terrible?


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Episode 1
http://forum.dvdtalk.com/tv-talk/620...6-29-14-a.html
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Re: The Leftovers (S1E02) -- "Penguin One, Us Zero" -- 7/06/14

I wonder what the ratings drop off will be like for this episode. Doesn't HBO usually renew a show within the first few episodes of the season? I guess it depends on what their expectations are. I figure they have to be hoping for ratings of at least what The Newsroom got in its first season.
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Re: The Leftovers (S1E02) -- "Penguin One, Us Zero" -- 7/06/14

Originally Posted by DJariya
Since a lot of you thought the Pilot was terrible?
I'll be watching. I enjoyed the Pilot.
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Originally Posted by scorpion
I'll be watching. I enjoyed the Pilot.
Me too. I think the show can really grow into something great if it gets more than one season. I think it has to get another season, because HBO doesn't really have anything else at this point other than Game of Thrones.
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Re: The Leftovers (S1E02) -- "Penguin One, Us Zero" -- 7/06/14

I'm out. If people say the show turned around in a few episodes or so then I will go back.
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Re: The Leftovers (S1E02) -- "Penguin One, Us Zero" -- 7/06/14

I'm still in, for now.
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Re: The Leftovers (S1E02) -- "Penguin One, Us Zero" -- 7/06/14

I'm in for a couple more at least. My expectations are pretty low now so maybe it can surprise me.
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Re: The Leftovers (S1E02) -- "Penguin One, Us Zero" -- 7/06/14

I'm still in but this is kinda grief porn.
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Re: The Leftovers (S1E02) -- "Penguin One, Us Zero" -- 7/06/14

I really will be surprised if this gets another season.
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Re: The Leftovers (S1E02) -- "Penguin One, Us Zero" -- 7/06/14

Eh, I tried. I thought this episode was much better in execution than the pilot, but still I can't make myself care about a single character in the series. So even though the presentation improved it's still just a bunch of miserable, self-loathing people moping around and being miserable. I couldn't care less what happens to any of them, except for maybe the handful I just plain detest. And since the only thing interesting about the show (the 'event') is intentionally not the focus and that seems unlikely to change I can't think of a single reason to keep watching.
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Re: The Leftovers (S1E02) -- "Penguin One, Us Zero" -- 7/06/14

Originally Posted by thebunk
I'm out. If people say the show turned around in a few episodes or so then I will go back.
I remember reading some review a few weeks back that said that the second half of the 3rd episode is really where it picks up and gets interesting. The reviewer worried the show would lose viewers after the first 2 episodes because of this reason.

I'm sticking with it because there aren't that many good summer shows, so I have an hour a week to watch it on my DVR. I am still intrigued by the premise, but I don't know if I will like it in the long run.
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Originally Posted by mcnabb
I remember reading some review a few weeks back that said that the second half of the 3rd episode is really where it picks up and gets interesting. The reviewer worried the show would lose viewers after the first 2 episodes because of this reason.

I'm sticking with it because there aren't that many good summer shows, so I have an hour a week to watch it on my DVR. I am still intrigued by the premise, but I don't know if I will like it in the long run.
Good to know. I will be looking for review of the next Ep before I just move on. So far based on the reviews for Ep2, looks like they have a long way to go. We will see.
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Re: The Leftovers (S1E02) -- "Penguin One, Us Zero" -- 7/06/14

I like the idea that maybe the cop and his crazy father (Scott Glenn) are actually getting messages from "the other side" that might tie into the disappearances, but I also know that we're never going to find that out, so something that should have sparked my interest just frustrated me.

This show is very much like watching LOST, EXCEPT this time you know (thanks to Lindelof's public statements) that you're never going to get any answers.

I'll be surprised if this gets renewed as well. I'll probably still watch it for at least a few more weeks.

Surprisingly, I like the teenage daughter storyline more than I thought I would. I hate anything to do with the "Guilty Remnant" - that story thread is a drag to sit through. The stuff with the son and Wayne isn't too bad - waiting to see where that goes.
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Re: The Leftovers (S1E02) -- "Penguin One, Us Zero" -- 7/06/14

Still can't see how the book can work as a series, but I'll give it a few more episodes just to be safe.
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Re: The Leftovers (S1E02) -- "Penguin One, Us Zero" -- 7/06/14

Originally Posted by Coral
Still can't see how the book can work as a series, but I'll give it a few more episodes just to be safe.
It's only a 10 episode season. By the time you make up your mind, the season will be almost over
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Re: The Leftovers (S1E02) -- "Penguin One, Us Zero" -- 7/06/14

So, Garvey uses his brilliant detective skills and finally locates his missing bagel at the end. I would have gotten a bigger kick if he ate it.

I loved the raid of the compound at the beginning. That was really intense.

What the hell is the deal with Gilchrest? It felt like he wanted to fuck Garvey's son. I got the impression that he's some kind of cult leader.

This is a really glum and depressing show and I can see how most here are having trouble resonating with the characters and story (whatever it may be) I can't say I love it, but I like how different it is.
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Re: The Leftovers (S1E02) -- "Penguin One, Us Zero" -- 7/06/14

Yep, it's different. But I almost quit by the middle of the episode, and I'm one of the "defenders" of the show. I mean, I know what the show is about, but I'm not sure if I want to watch 10, 8 right now, episodes of that at this moment.

Gilchrest? In the book he has a really interesting back story, they have been changing some stuff from the book, so not sure if they would go there. His back story Lost-esque if I can say that.
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Re: The Leftovers (S1E02) -- "Penguin One, Us Zero" -- 7/06/14

I'm out. Two episodes in and I don't care about a single character on the show, except for maybe the daughter's friend, who seems to be the only character on the show with a personality worth a damn.
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I was able to drag myself through an episode an 3/4, but I just have no desire to spend another 8 hours with these people.

It's funny how HBO shows are such polar opposites. They're either fantastic or borderline unwatchable. Not much I watch & think 'meh'. At least they're trying different stuff, I guess.
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This show shares one of the most annoying traits of Lost and Heroes: having to actually read what the characters are saying to each other. At least with Lost and Heroes it was valid that certain characters wouldn't be speaking English. But now I gotta look up from my laptop and read what the people are writing to each other on my TV! Don't those damn whities realize it takes them longer to write than to speak? I guess they don't really care about wasting their time, but they're wasting mine!
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I'd already be out after this episode but since we have notice that the 3rd is supposed to be better, I'll give it one more.
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Re: The Leftovers (S1E02) -- "Penguin One, Us Zero" -- 7/06/14

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I'm out. Two episodes in and I don't care about a single character on the show, except for maybe the daughter's friend, who seems to be the only character on the show with a personality worth a damn.
This. Wow, I'm kind of surprised HBO picked this up.
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Originally Posted by bunkaroo
I'd already be out after this episode but since we have notice that the 3rd is supposed to be better, I'll give it one more.
Yeah, I'll give it one more too.The cult leader with all the asian girls and the cop's son is the only interesting storyline going on right now to me. This episode was a step down from the pilot.
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Re: The Leftovers (S1E02) -- "Penguin One, Us Zero" -- 7/06/14

Also, regardless of the cursing and violence, it still feel like a homogenized network show rather than an HBO show.

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