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Arrow -- "The Scientist" -- 12/04/13




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BARRY ALLEN COMES TO STARLING CITY - A seemingly impossible robbery at Queen Consolidated's Applied Sciences Division brings Central City police scientist Barry Allen (guest star Grant Gustin) to town. Citing a similar case back home, Barry offers to help Oliver (Stephen Amell) and team with the investigation. Oliver senses there is more to Barry than meets the eye, but he's distracted by the similarities between this current case and something that happened on the island. Meanwhile, Felicity (Emily Bett Rickards) takes a liking to Barry, which doesn't go unnoticed by Oliver. Sin (guest star Bex Taylor-Klaus) asks Roy (Colton Haynes) for help when a friend of hers goes missing. Roy is surprised when Thea (Willa Holland) not only encourages him to help, but joins the search. Unfortunately, Sin's friend is connected to Brother Blood (guest star Kevin Alejandro), and their search ultimately gets one of them seriously injured. Michael Schultz directed the episode with story by Greg Berlanti & Andrew Kresiberg and teleplay by Andrew Kreisberg & Geoff Johns (#208).


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This is the 1st episode to introduce the Barry Allen character/The Flash. I believe he's going to be in 1 more Arrow episode, but The CW is producing a stand alone Flash pilot for contention for next Fall.
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Re: Arrow -- "The Scientist" -- 12/04/13

I believe he is in following ep which is fall finale. Ep 20 was supposed to be the backdoor pilot, but that obviously changed.
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Re: Arrow -- "The Scientist" -- 12/04/13

Barry Allen - looks like we're seeing Flash in this episode...
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I think he gets his powers in the next episode, and then dons the spandex in the pilot.
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Re: Arrow -- "The Scientist" -- 12/04/13

But I wanna see him dressing as the Flash now!
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No John Wesley Shipp, no sale!
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I know everyone is giddy about Barry Allen but I'm just so happy there's been so much Felicity this episode.
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Re: Arrow -- "The Scientist" -- 12/04/13

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I know everyone is giddy about Barry Allen but I'm just so happy there's been so much Felicity this episode.
Lots of Felicity and NO Laurel. Maybe they're starting to get the hint...

Awesome episode. I'm surprised they mentioned Ra's. They seemed to be pussy footing around it.
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Awesome episode. I'm surprised they mentioned Ra's. They seemed to be pussy footing around it.
They've mentioned him before. They also refered to the Canary as "the beloved" which makes me think she'll be this series' equivalent of Talia Al Ghul.
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Originally Posted by RocShemp
They've mentioned him before. They also refered to the Canary as "the beloved" which makes me think she'll be this series' equivalent of Talia Al Ghul.
By name? I don't remember that.
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By name? I don't remember that.
Yeah. Back when they first mentioned the League of Assassins they name dropped Ra's Al Ghul.

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Aye. They totally name-dropped Ras al Ghul earlier this season.

Great episode btw
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Yeah I can't lie I had a hard time focusing on this episode. I just really, was hoping we could have seen him get his Flash powers this episode. Especially when they teased us by having him be near the chemicals and then hearing thunder.
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Re: Arrow -- "The Scientist" -- 12/04/13

I could've done without the goofy, whimsical music when Barry was on screen every time.

I did like some of the comments from him, though. Not being good on his feet, being late for stuff. So, are they setting up a villain for the new Flash show?

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Professor Zoom? Seems like they are giving Barry that origin story, and he said he saw something the night his mother was murdered. Something fast and a blur, which seems like a superspeed villain.
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Re: Arrow -- "The Scientist" -- 12/04/13

Batman's a scientist!
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Re: Arrow -- "The Scientist" -- 12/04/13

Def, that definitely sounds like it.
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Re: Arrow -- "The Scientist" -- 12/04/13

Originally Posted by Deftones
I could've done without the goofy, whimsical music when Barry was on screen every time.

I did like some of the comments from him, though. Not being good on his feet, being late for stuff. So, are they setting up a villain for the new Flash show?

Spoiler:
Professor Zoom? Seems like they are giving Barry that origin story, and he said he saw something the night his mother was murdered. Something fast and a blur, which seems like a superspeed villain.
I believe he also said it was a
Spoiler:
yellow blur. That definitely sounds like Professor Zoom to me.
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I believe he also said it was a
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yellow blur. That definitely sounds like Professor Zoom to me.
I thought he said blue or grey
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Re: Arrow -- "The Scientist" -- 12/04/13

Originally Posted by Deftones
I could've done without the goofy, whimsical music when Barry was on screen every time.

I did like some of the comments from him, though. Not being good on his feet, being late for stuff. So, are they setting up a villain for the new Flash show?

Spoiler:
Professor Zoom? Seems like they are giving Barry that origin story, and he said he saw something the night his mother was murdered. Something fast and a blur, which seems like a superspeed villain.
If people weren't paying attention, famous comic book writer Geoff Johns got a writing credit on this episode. Most of the new elements in Barry Allen's background from this episode are taken directly from Johns' re-introduction of the character in DC Comics before the new reboot. We also got a DC easter egg this episode in the form of Ted Kord (Blue Beetle). He exists in the Arrow universe.

I didn't mind most of Barry's introduction or his personality, but it's definitely tough accepting how young the actor looks playing him. He's one of those adult actors that could almost pass for a high school kid. I guess the CW wanted a younger hero than Green Arrow himself.

It was a tease having Barry play with the chemicals while the lightning storm hit.
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Re: Arrow -- "The Scientist" -- 12/04/13

The actor that plays Barry is older than the actress that plays Felicity.
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Re: Arrow -- "The Scientist" -- 12/04/13

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I guess the CW wanted a younger hero than Green Arrow himself.
Oliver has always been the older hero in the comics. At least before pre-crisis.
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Re: Arrow -- "The Scientist" -- 12/04/13

Originally Posted by PhantomStranger
If people weren't paying attention, famous comic book writer Geoff Johns got a writing credit on this episode. Most of the new elements in Barry Allen's background from this episode are taken directly from Johns' re-introduction of the character in DC Comics before the new reboot. We also got a DC easter egg this episode in the form of Ted Kord (Blue Beetle). He exists in the Arrow universe.

I didn't mind most of Barry's introduction or his personality, but it's definitely tough accepting how young the actor looks playing him. He's one of those adult actors that could almost pass for a high school kid. I guess the CW wanted a younger hero than Green Arrow himself.

It was a tease having Barry play with the chemicals while the lightning storm hit.
Kord Industries was mentioned in an earlier episode of Arrow.

I also had a problem with how young the actor they used for Barry Allen is. I guess that's what we're going to get as long as we get series on The CW.

What I find a little odd is why they're even bothering introducing The Flash character in The Arrow universe if they're never going to use him in it? The way this episode's playing out it looks like he won't even get his powers in the next episode (nice tease with him standing in front of the shelf full of chemicals).
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Re: Arrow -- "The Scientist" -- 12/04/13

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The way this episode's playing out it looks like he won't even get his powers in the next episode (nice tease with him standing in front of the shelf full of chemicals).
There was that quick cut in the commercial for the next ep. where someone fall back into the chemicals on the shelf.
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Re: Arrow -- "The Scientist" -- 12/04/13

Well he was supposed to have an episode of Arrow serve as a backdoor pilot; plus I suppose he can come back as a guest even if they pick up to series.

Speaking of, I doubt they'll call it Flash. My guess would be Central City.
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Re: Arrow -- "The Scientist" -- 12/04/13

Cool episode. Enjoyed the introduction of Barry. at how Felicity was so smitten with him.

With WB and The CW producing a standalone Flash Pilot, I believe Barry/Flash's origin story is supposed to explored further in that. So, no Flash origin in next week's midseason finale. But looks like Barry will also know Ollie's secret.

I wonder what happens if for some reason the CW passes on the Flash Pilot, although unlikely. I guess they could bring back Barry as full on Flash mode in season 3.


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