The Walking Dead -- "Indifference" -- 11/03/13
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The Walking Dead -- "Indifference" -- 11/03/13
Synopsis:
While on a supplies mission to a local college, members of the group run into multiple hurdles. Things at the prison are getting worse.
Written by: Matt Negrete
Directed by: Tricia Brock
Episode 4 of 16
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Re: The Walking Dead -- "Indifference" -- 11/03/13
I can remember when there would be a full page of comments before the show even started!
Kind of a meh episode and I'm usually an easy to please fan.
Kind of a meh episode and I'm usually an easy to please fan.
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I hope they don't go the route of Carol getting together with the Governor...
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One of the dumber hours of television in a while. Pretty much sub- "Under the Dome" level here. But there were decapitations and gratuitous zombie kills.
Is the word zombie like copyrighted or something? Because no one calling the zombies zombies is flat out ridiculous.
Is the word zombie like copyrighted or something? Because no one calling the zombies zombies is flat out ridiculous.
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Re: The Walking Dead -- "Indifference" -- 11/03/13
I don't think it was a wise artistic decision, but he seemed gung-ho about using "walkers" as a term. I guess it was a way to separate this series from every other zombie fiction.
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Re: The Walking Dead -- "Indifference" -- 11/03/13
A episode about holding on to things to tightly and needing to let go. I enjoyed it but found the choice to boot Carol bad. I have a feeling she will be showing up again though.
Now who is feeding those walkers?
Now who is feeding those walkers?
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Uh, guys? Perhaps when there are swarms of zombies below you and trying to get through the window, maybe that isn't the best time to, like, have a conversation? Just, you know, a suggestion. Perhaps you should have an argument when there AREN'T flesh-eating monsters surrounding you. Just saying.
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Re: The Walking Dead -- "Indifference" -- 11/03/13
No, Robert Kirkman has made this world before the zombie apocalypse just like ours with one key difference- they never had zombie films or knew the term existed. Most of the characters act like horror films never existed in any form in the Walking Dead universe.
I don't think it was a wise artistic decision, but he seemed gung-ho about using "walkers" as a term. I guess it was a way to separate this series from every other zombie fiction.
I don't think it was a wise artistic decision, but he seemed gung-ho about using "walkers" as a term. I guess it was a way to separate this series from every other zombie fiction.
Uh, guys? Perhaps when there are swarms of zombies below you and trying to get through the window, maybe that isn't the best time to, like, have a conversation? Just, you know, a suggestion. Perhaps you should have an argument when there AREN'T flesh-eating monsters surrounding you. Just saying.
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Re: The Walking Dead -- "Indifference" -- 11/03/13
So those two people that Rick and Carol ran into that have been going from traveling around since this started end up dying in the almost walker free area of town. That's some bad luck!
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Rick is a terrible leader and sanctimonious as well. He's killed a bunch of people he perceived as threats but Carol cannot off two people who were sick and going to infect others. Carol, Daryl and Michonne should just break off and have their own show of surviving and killing walkers.
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Re: The Walking Dead -- "Indifference" -- 11/03/13
Rick was right. He knows and he can't keep the secret, other way he will be part of that.
So, he tells everyone that Carol killed those two. What's going to happen? Will everyone congratulate her? Of course not. There may be some people that agree with her and some that don't. And then you have to spend time protecting her from Tyreese. And of course if someone gets a little sick you have to protect them from her. She wasn't apologetic, she really believe she's right.
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Re: The Walking Dead -- "Indifference" -- 11/03/13
Rick may be getting that ass-kicking that Daryl planned for Bob.
So Merle is okay to have at the prison, but Carol is a threat to Rick's children? Puh-leeeze!
I keep wondering if Daryl and the gang will pass Carol on the highway as they head back to the prison.
So Merle is okay to have at the prison, but Carol is a threat to Rick's children? Puh-leeeze!
I keep wondering if Daryl and the gang will pass Carol on the highway as they head back to the prison.
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Re: The Walking Dead -- "Indifference" -- 11/03/13
Carol had the same problem that Shane had. They both dont get it. It isnt about their own individual survival. Shane would do anything up to and including killing others to ensure that he would survive. He may have extendend that to include Lori and Carl. Carol killed others because they were a "potential" threat to the survival of the group so that she could stop the spread before it really got started but anyone with any sense at all would have known that by the time it had killed 2 of the group and infected at least the other two that she killed, that cat was already out of the bag.
Shane would have used the group as a means for his continued survival and would not have hidden it as anything other than that. Carol would use the group the same was but would have constantly "trimmed back" what she saw as the weakest members of the group.
Rick isn't like that at all. From the start he has put himself in the postion of being a defender of the entire group at risk to himself. Not just those that could ensure his survival but the weak also. He seems to realize that it isn't just about the survival of the strongest/fittest. For humanity for come thru this, people cant forget the "humanity" inside themselves.
Carol, for all of the strength that she has developed has forgotten how to be human. She might survive to live into her 80s but in the end, what will she have to show for it? If the sum total of the goal of life is just to live, what is the point? Life is to grow, when you become a "cold blooded machine" as she have become, there is no growth. Even Merle at the end recognized that.
Ask yourself this, when the govenor gunned down all of his people and left only 2 or 3 of his henchmen to take with him, if you were one of those henchmen, would you have gone with him or would you have shot him on the spot? The man had just shown that no one meant anything to him. He had just gunned down 20 people that were more or less loyal to him and you are going to trust that he would not do the same to you in a heartbeat? He is a mad dog that needs to be put down but those guys think that he will keep them alive?
Now, who is more like the Govenor? Shane, Carol or Rick? Pick two. Thats the difference.
Shane would have used the group as a means for his continued survival and would not have hidden it as anything other than that. Carol would use the group the same was but would have constantly "trimmed back" what she saw as the weakest members of the group.
Rick isn't like that at all. From the start he has put himself in the postion of being a defender of the entire group at risk to himself. Not just those that could ensure his survival but the weak also. He seems to realize that it isn't just about the survival of the strongest/fittest. For humanity for come thru this, people cant forget the "humanity" inside themselves.
Carol, for all of the strength that she has developed has forgotten how to be human. She might survive to live into her 80s but in the end, what will she have to show for it? If the sum total of the goal of life is just to live, what is the point? Life is to grow, when you become a "cold blooded machine" as she have become, there is no growth. Even Merle at the end recognized that.
Ask yourself this, when the govenor gunned down all of his people and left only 2 or 3 of his henchmen to take with him, if you were one of those henchmen, would you have gone with him or would you have shot him on the spot? The man had just shown that no one meant anything to him. He had just gunned down 20 people that were more or less loyal to him and you are going to trust that he would not do the same to you in a heartbeat? He is a mad dog that needs to be put down but those guys think that he will keep them alive?
Now, who is more like the Govenor? Shane, Carol or Rick? Pick two. Thats the difference.
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Re: The Walking Dead -- "Indifference" -- 11/03/13
Excellent write up Scott.
People like to bitch that episodes like this are boring and nothing happens but it was a great character driven episode. I liked it.
People like to bitch that episodes like this are boring and nothing happens but it was a great character driven episode. I liked it.
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Re: The Walking Dead -- "Indifference" -- 11/03/13
Carol had the same problem that Shane had. They both dont get it. It isnt about their own individual survival. Shane would do anything up to and including killing others to ensure that he would survive. He may have extendend that to include Lori and Carl. Carol killed others because they were a "potential" threat to the survival of the group so that she could stop the spread before it really got started but anyone with any sense at all would have known that by the time it had killed 2 of the group and infected at least the other two that she killed, that cat was already out of the bag.
Shane would have used the group as a means for his continued survival and would not have hidden it as anything other than that. Carol would use the group the same was but would have constantly "trimmed back" what she saw as the weakest members of the group.
Rick isn't like that at all. From the start he has put himself in the postion of being a defender of the entire group at risk to himself. Not just those that could ensure his survival but the weak also. He seems to realize that it isn't just about the survival of the strongest/fittest. For humanity for come thru this, people cant forget the "humanity" inside themselves.
Carol, for all of the strength that she has developed has forgotten how to be human. She might survive to live into her 80s but in the end, what will she have to show for it? If the sum total of the goal of life is just to live, what is the point? Life is to grow, when you become a "cold blooded machine" as she have become, there is no growth. Even Merle at the end recognized that.
Ask yourself this, when the govenor gunned down all of his people and left only 2 or 3 of his henchmen to take with him, if you were one of those henchmen, would you have gone with him or would you have shot him on the spot? The man had just shown that no one meant anything to him. He had just gunned down 20 people that were more or less loyal to him and you are going to trust that he would not do the same to you in a heartbeat? He is a mad dog that needs to be put down but those guys think that he will keep them alive?
Now, who is more like the Govenor? Shane, Carol or Rick? Pick two. Thats the difference.
Shane would have used the group as a means for his continued survival and would not have hidden it as anything other than that. Carol would use the group the same was but would have constantly "trimmed back" what she saw as the weakest members of the group.
Rick isn't like that at all. From the start he has put himself in the postion of being a defender of the entire group at risk to himself. Not just those that could ensure his survival but the weak also. He seems to realize that it isn't just about the survival of the strongest/fittest. For humanity for come thru this, people cant forget the "humanity" inside themselves.
Carol, for all of the strength that she has developed has forgotten how to be human. She might survive to live into her 80s but in the end, what will she have to show for it? If the sum total of the goal of life is just to live, what is the point? Life is to grow, when you become a "cold blooded machine" as she have become, there is no growth. Even Merle at the end recognized that.
Ask yourself this, when the govenor gunned down all of his people and left only 2 or 3 of his henchmen to take with him, if you were one of those henchmen, would you have gone with him or would you have shot him on the spot? The man had just shown that no one meant anything to him. He had just gunned down 20 people that were more or less loyal to him and you are going to trust that he would not do the same to you in a heartbeat? He is a mad dog that needs to be put down but those guys think that he will keep them alive?
Now, who is more like the Govenor? Shane, Carol or Rick? Pick two. Thats the difference.
Well done. great post.
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Re: The Walking Dead -- "Indifference" -- 11/03/13
This makes total sense to me. If vampires suddenly became a reality in our world, one of the first "huh?" reactions would be -- "How did we manage to fictionalize a character before it was a reality?" It would be really strange to create a world (in The Walking Dead) where zombies were known from fiction before they became a reality. It doesn't make sense.