Comic Book Circulation Figures?
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Comic Book Circulation Figures?
Do you know of a reliable website that posts comic book circulation figures.
And would that include sales from ebook versions like Comixcology?
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And would that include sales from ebook versions like Comixcology?
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Re: Comic Book Circulation Figurs?
There are no numbers released on digital sales. Comixology and the comic companies don't release them. I suspect they never will, but there might be occasional and inexact "milestone" announcements ("Watchmen has sold 1 million digital copies!" and so on).
Technically, no numbers are released for physical books either, but Diamond does release its top 300 selling books each month with a figure showing how each book sells in relation to Batman. People on the web then use that to reverse-engineer sales estimates for all the books.
ICV2 is the site that puts that together, you can find those here: http://www.icv2.com/articles/news/1850.html
These numbers are just for North America, so don't include books sold in Europe. Some creators have piped up saying these numbers are often 10-20% lower than actual sales.
Technically, no numbers are released for physical books either, but Diamond does release its top 300 selling books each month with a figure showing how each book sells in relation to Batman. People on the web then use that to reverse-engineer sales estimates for all the books.
ICV2 is the site that puts that together, you can find those here: http://www.icv2.com/articles/news/1850.html
These numbers are just for North America, so don't include books sold in Europe. Some creators have piped up saying these numbers are often 10-20% lower than actual sales.
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Re: Comic Book Circulation Figurs?
First of all...thanks for explaining all that.
So...when a site like Comichron publishes the following it's that reverse-engineering you were talking about?
1 Superman Unchained 2 $3.99 DC 165,754
2 Batman 22 $3.99 DC 132,047
3 Guardians of Galaxy 5 $3.99 Marvel 110,372
4 Justice League 22 $3.99 DC 110,194
5 Batman Annual 2 $4.99 DC 101,726
6 Batman Superman 2 $3.99 DC 92,558
7 Justice League of America 6 $3.99 DC 86,192
8 Superior Spider-Man 13 $3.99 Marvel 81,678
9 Superior Spider-Man 14 $3.99 Marvel 80,839
10 Superior Spider-Man Team Up 1 $3.99 Marvel 76,959
11 All New X-Men 14 $3.99 Marvel 74,848
12 Walking Dead 112 $2.99 Image 72,975
13 Avengers 16 $3.99 Marvel 72,842
14 Hunger 1 $3.99 Marvel 70,835
15 Uncanny X-Men 8 $3.99 Marvel 70,274
16 Uncanny Avengers 10 $3.99 Marvel 68,768
17 Avengers 15 $3.99 Marvel 68,472
18 Avengers AI 1 $2.99 Marvel 68,130
19 Uncanny X-Men 9 $3.99 Marvel 67,338
20 X-Men 3 $3.99 Marvel 65,270
http://www.comichron.com/monthlycomi...3/2013-07.html
Iron Man is 39th on the list with 44 thousand or so. I would have thought that he would have been up there.
And your saying that they quote figures in relation to Batman sales. I guess that's because Batman is usually the top selling comic?
For some reason I thought Marvel and SpiderMan sold more comics. Maybe that's just cumulative and that DC still has the number #1 character.
So...when a site like Comichron publishes the following it's that reverse-engineering you were talking about?
1 Superman Unchained 2 $3.99 DC 165,754
2 Batman 22 $3.99 DC 132,047
3 Guardians of Galaxy 5 $3.99 Marvel 110,372
4 Justice League 22 $3.99 DC 110,194
5 Batman Annual 2 $4.99 DC 101,726
6 Batman Superman 2 $3.99 DC 92,558
7 Justice League of America 6 $3.99 DC 86,192
8 Superior Spider-Man 13 $3.99 Marvel 81,678
9 Superior Spider-Man 14 $3.99 Marvel 80,839
10 Superior Spider-Man Team Up 1 $3.99 Marvel 76,959
11 All New X-Men 14 $3.99 Marvel 74,848
12 Walking Dead 112 $2.99 Image 72,975
13 Avengers 16 $3.99 Marvel 72,842
14 Hunger 1 $3.99 Marvel 70,835
15 Uncanny X-Men 8 $3.99 Marvel 70,274
16 Uncanny Avengers 10 $3.99 Marvel 68,768
17 Avengers 15 $3.99 Marvel 68,472
18 Avengers AI 1 $2.99 Marvel 68,130
19 Uncanny X-Men 9 $3.99 Marvel 67,338
20 X-Men 3 $3.99 Marvel 65,270
http://www.comichron.com/monthlycomi...3/2013-07.html
Iron Man is 39th on the list with 44 thousand or so. I would have thought that he would have been up there.
And your saying that they quote figures in relation to Batman sales. I guess that's because Batman is usually the top selling comic?
For some reason I thought Marvel and SpiderMan sold more comics. Maybe that's just cumulative and that DC still has the number #1 character.
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Re: Comic Book Circulation Figurs?
Batman is used as the base index because its typically the most stable. It hardly ever drops out of the top 3. Other titles can fluctuate all over the place. One month a title might be #5 and next month be #25.
Spider-Man does typically sell well, but I think a lot of readers dropped it when Doc Ock became Superior Spider-Man, and it hasn't likely recovered from that yet. Plus it looks like Superior Spider-Man double shipped that month. Double shipping titles usually lose some readers too due to the increased cost of keeping up with it.
Spider-Man does typically sell well, but I think a lot of readers dropped it when Doc Ock became Superior Spider-Man, and it hasn't likely recovered from that yet. Plus it looks like Superior Spider-Man double shipped that month. Double shipping titles usually lose some readers too due to the increased cost of keeping up with it.
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First of all...thanks for explaining all that.
So...when a site like Comichron publishes the following it's that reverse-engineering you were talking about?
1 Superman Unchained 2 $3.99 DC 165,754
2 Batman 22 $3.99 DC 132,047
3 Guardians of Galaxy 5 $3.99 Marvel 110,372
4 Justice League 22 $3.99 DC 110,194
5 Batman Annual 2 $4.99 DC 101,726
6 Batman Superman 2 $3.99 DC 92,558
7 Justice League of America 6 $3.99 DC 86,192
8 Superior Spider-Man 13 $3.99 Marvel 81,678
9 Superior Spider-Man 14 $3.99 Marvel 80,839
10 Superior Spider-Man Team Up 1 $3.99 Marvel 76,959
11 All New X-Men 14 $3.99 Marvel 74,848
12 Walking Dead 112 $2.99 Image 72,975
13 Avengers 16 $3.99 Marvel 72,842
14 Hunger 1 $3.99 Marvel 70,835
15 Uncanny X-Men 8 $3.99 Marvel 70,274
16 Uncanny Avengers 10 $3.99 Marvel 68,768
17 Avengers 15 $3.99 Marvel 68,472
18 Avengers AI 1 $2.99 Marvel 68,130
19 Uncanny X-Men 9 $3.99 Marvel 67,338
20 X-Men 3 $3.99 Marvel 65,270
http://www.comichron.com/monthlycomi...3/2013-07.html
Iron Man is 39th on the list with 44 thousand or so. I would have thought that he would have been up there.
And your saying that they quote figures in relation to Batman sales. I guess that's because Batman is usually the top selling comic?
For some reason I thought Marvel and SpiderMan sold more comics. Maybe that's just cumulative and that DC still has the number #1 character.
So...when a site like Comichron publishes the following it's that reverse-engineering you were talking about?
1 Superman Unchained 2 $3.99 DC 165,754
2 Batman 22 $3.99 DC 132,047
3 Guardians of Galaxy 5 $3.99 Marvel 110,372
4 Justice League 22 $3.99 DC 110,194
5 Batman Annual 2 $4.99 DC 101,726
6 Batman Superman 2 $3.99 DC 92,558
7 Justice League of America 6 $3.99 DC 86,192
8 Superior Spider-Man 13 $3.99 Marvel 81,678
9 Superior Spider-Man 14 $3.99 Marvel 80,839
10 Superior Spider-Man Team Up 1 $3.99 Marvel 76,959
11 All New X-Men 14 $3.99 Marvel 74,848
12 Walking Dead 112 $2.99 Image 72,975
13 Avengers 16 $3.99 Marvel 72,842
14 Hunger 1 $3.99 Marvel 70,835
15 Uncanny X-Men 8 $3.99 Marvel 70,274
16 Uncanny Avengers 10 $3.99 Marvel 68,768
17 Avengers 15 $3.99 Marvel 68,472
18 Avengers AI 1 $2.99 Marvel 68,130
19 Uncanny X-Men 9 $3.99 Marvel 67,338
20 X-Men 3 $3.99 Marvel 65,270
http://www.comichron.com/monthlycomi...3/2013-07.html
Iron Man is 39th on the list with 44 thousand or so. I would have thought that he would have been up there.
And your saying that they quote figures in relation to Batman sales. I guess that's because Batman is usually the top selling comic?
For some reason I thought Marvel and SpiderMan sold more comics. Maybe that's just cumulative and that DC still has the number #1 character.
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Ok...so looking at that other site...to randomly pick a few titles we already discussed.
Looking at regular issues and not team ups...etc
SUPERIOR SPIDER-MAN #13 ---81,678
SUPERIOR SPIDER-MAN #14 ---80,839
IRON MAN #12 ---------------40,405
IRON MAN #13-------------- 39,534
That's basically the same or similar figures between the two sites. So basically a single issue of Iron Man sells about 40K and a single issue of the new Spider-Man sells 80k
Looking at regular issues and not team ups...etc
SUPERIOR SPIDER-MAN #13 ---81,678
SUPERIOR SPIDER-MAN #14 ---80,839
IRON MAN #12 ---------------40,405
IRON MAN #13-------------- 39,534
That's basically the same or similar figures between the two sites. So basically a single issue of Iron Man sells about 40K and a single issue of the new Spider-Man sells 80k
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Iron Man is 39th on the list with 44 thousand or so. I would have thought that he would have been up there.
And your saying that they quote figures in relation to Batman sales. I guess that's because Batman is usually the top selling comic?
For some reason I thought Marvel and SpiderMan sold more comics. Maybe that's just cumulative and that DC still has the number #1 character.
And your saying that they quote figures in relation to Batman sales. I guess that's because Batman is usually the top selling comic?
For some reason I thought Marvel and SpiderMan sold more comics. Maybe that's just cumulative and that DC still has the number #1 character.
I can't think of them off the top of my head, but there are entire blogs and websites dedicated to discussing comic book sales.
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Re: Comic Book Circulation Figures?
Are most shops over-ordering most titles and keeping the extras as back issues? The stores I check seem to have tons of stuff from the last year or more still on the racks. Do these extras count in those sales figures?
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You would have to have a copy to see, but doesn't the legend of all magazines/comics state the circulation number? Also, seem to remember a yearly statement, required by law, published by each magazine/comic in the magazine that states circulation.
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Image, Vertigo and some others are experimenting with making first issues returnable, encouraging retailers to order higher on first issues.
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What is double-shipping? Is that two different issues of the same comic book title in the same month. I see Spider-Man has two, same thing with a bunch of different heroes. And those sales are still on the very low side.
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John Mayo on the Comic Book Page Podcast often laments that there isn't sell-through data available and all that we have is what the shops order from Diamond.
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All except comic shops are returnable. All other type retailers can return for credit. Don't know if DC ever did it, but in late 70s Marvel started different covers for direct sales vs regular retail. The upper left corner where price and issue number was located was different design and any with that cover could not be returned.
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All except comic shops are returnable. All other type retailers can return for credit. Don't know if DC ever did it, but in late 70s Marvel started different covers for direct sales vs regular retail. The upper left corner where price and issue number was located was different design and any with that cover could not be returned.
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I don't believe the vast majority of comics are distributed through newsstands anymore and haven't been for years. That was a relic the direct market killed off in the late '90s. Archie comics are about the last titles to have widespread newsstand distribution.
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Re: Comic Book Circulation Figures?
So there's not a lot, but they are out there.