Boardwalk Empire -- "Blue Bell Boy" -- 10/07/12
10-07-12, 10:52 AM
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Boardwalk Empire -- "Blue Bell Boy" -- 10/07/12
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Episode 4 of 12
If you missed it, HBO renewed this for a 4th season last week.
10-07-12, 10:40 PM
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Re: Boardwalk Empire -- "Blue Bell Boy" -- 10/07/12
"Allowing you to simply go to prison is the last gift I'm going to give you". Nucky wasn't messing around in this episode. He seemed to kill that kid just to prove a point to Owen.
I dont think Nucky can ignore Mickey's incompetence any longer. Especially without Horvitz around to keep him in line. Although he may not trust Eli he has to realize he needs him.
I dont think Nucky can ignore Mickey's incompetence any longer. Especially without Horvitz around to keep him in line. Although he may not trust Eli he has to realize he needs him.
10-08-12, 12:35 AM
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Re: Boardwalk Empire -- "Blue Bell Boy" -- 10/07/12
Fuck! I liked the kid. I knew it was going to happen when Nucky gave him the cigarette.
I think it was definitely a statement to Owen. I also think it may have the opposite effect, given the scene with Richard last episode.
I think it was definitely a statement to Owen. I also think it may have the opposite effect, given the scene with Richard last episode.
10-08-12, 02:38 AM
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Re: Boardwalk Empire -- "Blue Bell Boy" -- 10/07/12
Another fantastic episode. Everything was great except the awful Margaret stuff. I'm interested in where Nucky and Eli go from here, and if a young Bugsy Siegel makes his bones in the near future.
10-08-12, 09:32 AM
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I was thinking about how they are showing Capone.
It seems to me that his son is more there for him, rather than he being there for his son.
Case in point - he gets annoyed at his son because another kid hit him, rather than hug him, he yells at his wife, and then scares the little boy when he is forcing him into fighting (none of us here would have sympathy with a dog breeder who takes a puppy and and scares it until it fights back in an attempt to "toughen it up")
Then after Capone takes a man's life, not just by shooting him, but by beating him with his bare hands, he comes home and wants to spend time with his son... maybe as a way of feeling human again, or one act of kindness offsets his atrocious behavior.
This rings of extreme narcissistic behavior - not a "humane" side to a man
It seems to me that his son is more there for him, rather than he being there for his son.
Case in point - he gets annoyed at his son because another kid hit him, rather than hug him, he yells at his wife, and then scares the little boy when he is forcing him into fighting (none of us here would have sympathy with a dog breeder who takes a puppy and and scares it until it fights back in an attempt to "toughen it up")
Then after Capone takes a man's life, not just by shooting him, but by beating him with his bare hands, he comes home and wants to spend time with his son... maybe as a way of feeling human again, or one act of kindness offsets his atrocious behavior.
This rings of extreme narcissistic behavior - not a "humane" side to a man
10-08-12, 09:35 AM
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Re: Boardwalk Empire -- "Blue Bell Boy" -- 10/07/12
I was thinking about how they are showing Capone.
It seems to me that his son is more there for him, rather than he being there for his son.
Case in point - he gets annoyed at his son because another kid hit him, rather than hug him, he yells at his wife, and then scares the little boy when he is forcing him into fighting (none of us here would have sympathy with a dog breeder who takes a puppy and and scares it until it fights back in an attempt to "toughen it up")
Then after Capone takes a man's life, not just by shooting him, but by beating him with his bare hands, he comes home and wants to spend time with his son... maybe as a way of feeling human again, or one act of kindness offsets his atrocious behavior.
This rings of extreme narcissistic behavior - not a "humane" side to a man
It seems to me that his son is more there for him, rather than he being there for his son.
Case in point - he gets annoyed at his son because another kid hit him, rather than hug him, he yells at his wife, and then scares the little boy when he is forcing him into fighting (none of us here would have sympathy with a dog breeder who takes a puppy and and scares it until it fights back in an attempt to "toughen it up")
Then after Capone takes a man's life, not just by shooting him, but by beating him with his bare hands, he comes home and wants to spend time with his son... maybe as a way of feeling human again, or one act of kindness offsets his atrocious behavior.
This rings of extreme narcissistic behavior - not a "humane" side to a man
10-08-12, 10:21 AM
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Agree, especially about Margaret. She served her purpose in earlier seasons, but it's almost as though they couldn't figure out anything meaningful to do with her so they made this storyline up to keep her busy because it would have been harder to justify her disappearing for a season. It ends up coming off as complete filler, and with so many other fascinating characters and storylines available (Van Alden MIA again?) I don't care for it. Probably my only complaint about the the show other than that it is only an hour long and on once a week.
10-08-12, 11:12 AM
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Re: Boardwalk Empire -- "Blue Bell Boy" -- 10/07/12
It's a nursery rhyme:
Blue Bell Boy
I had a little boy,
And called him Blue Bell;
Gave him a little work,--
He did it very well.
I bade him go upstairs
To bring me a gold pin;
In coal scuttle fell he,
Up to his little chin.
He went to the garden
To pick a little sage;
He tumbled on his nose,
And fell into a rage.
He went to the cellar
To draw a little beer;
And quickly did return
To say there was none there.
Fairly obvious how it ties into the episode I'd say. A nice touch there.
Blue Bell Boy
I had a little boy,
And called him Blue Bell;
Gave him a little work,--
He did it very well.
I bade him go upstairs
To bring me a gold pin;
In coal scuttle fell he,
Up to his little chin.
He went to the garden
To pick a little sage;
He tumbled on his nose,
And fell into a rage.
He went to the cellar
To draw a little beer;
And quickly did return
To say there was none there.
Fairly obvious how it ties into the episode I'd say. A nice touch there.
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10-08-12, 11:18 AM
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Re: Boardwalk Empire -- "Blue Bell Boy" -- 10/07/12
One thing that isn't clear to me, Nucky gave up his office as Treasurer and all of the benefits that came with that job. Margaret gave away all of the land to the church and all the money that would have came from its sale. Yet Nucky seems to have more money than ever. I realize bootlegging is profitable, see JFK's daddy Joe, but they've taken it to excess, IMO.
10-08-12, 12:15 PM
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JFK's daddy Joe did more than that to build his family empire. Joe did exceptionally well at playing the Stock Market. Fact is, Kennedy's role in bootlegging is quite minimal, compared to these cats.
10-08-12, 12:56 PM
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Re: Boardwalk Empire -- "Blue Bell Boy" -- 10/07/12
One thing that isn't clear to me, Nucky gave up his office as Treasurer and all of the benefits that came with that job. Margaret gave away all of the land to the church and all the money that would have came from its sale. Yet Nucky seems to have more money than ever. I realize bootlegging is profitable, see JFK's daddy Joe, but they've taken it to excess, IMO.
10-08-12, 01:15 PM
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Re: Boardwalk Empire -- "Blue Bell Boy" -- 10/07/12
I was thinking about how they are showing Capone.
It seems to me that his son is more there for him, rather than he being there for his son.
Case in point - he gets annoyed at his son because another kid hit him, rather than hug him, he yells at his wife, and then scares the little boy when he is forcing him into fighting (none of us here would have sympathy with a dog breeder who takes a puppy and and scares it until it fights back in an attempt to "toughen it up")
Then after Capone takes a man's life, not just by shooting him, but by beating him with his bare hands, he comes home and wants to spend time with his son... maybe as a way of feeling human again, or one act of kindness offsets his atrocious behavior.
This rings of extreme narcissistic behavior - not a "humane" side to a man
It seems to me that his son is more there for him, rather than he being there for his son.
Case in point - he gets annoyed at his son because another kid hit him, rather than hug him, he yells at his wife, and then scares the little boy when he is forcing him into fighting (none of us here would have sympathy with a dog breeder who takes a puppy and and scares it until it fights back in an attempt to "toughen it up")
Then after Capone takes a man's life, not just by shooting him, but by beating him with his bare hands, he comes home and wants to spend time with his son... maybe as a way of feeling human again, or one act of kindness offsets his atrocious behavior.
This rings of extreme narcissistic behavior - not a "humane" side to a man
10-08-12, 01:28 PM
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Re: Boardwalk Empire -- "Blue Bell Boy" -- 10/07/12
Then the fat guy appeared beaten, and that's when Capone decided to fight for those who couldn't fight for themselves. He knew he couldn't beat to death the boy who hit his son, so he took his frustrations out on the man who hit the fat collector.
10-08-12, 02:46 PM
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Re: Boardwalk Empire -- "Blue Bell Boy" -- 10/07/12
I was thinking about how they are showing Capone.
It seems to me that his son is more there for him, rather than he being there for his son.
Case in point - he gets annoyed at his son because another kid hit him, rather than hug him, he yells at his wife, and then scares the little boy when he is forcing him into fighting (none of us here would have sympathy with a dog breeder who takes a puppy and and scares it until it fights back in an attempt to "toughen it up")
Then after Capone takes a man's life, not just by shooting him, but by beating him with his bare hands, he comes home and wants to spend time with his son... maybe as a way of feeling human again, or one act of kindness offsets his atrocious behavior.
This rings of extreme narcissistic behavior - not a "humane" side to a man
It seems to me that his son is more there for him, rather than he being there for his son.
Case in point - he gets annoyed at his son because another kid hit him, rather than hug him, he yells at his wife, and then scares the little boy when he is forcing him into fighting (none of us here would have sympathy with a dog breeder who takes a puppy and and scares it until it fights back in an attempt to "toughen it up")
Then after Capone takes a man's life, not just by shooting him, but by beating him with his bare hands, he comes home and wants to spend time with his son... maybe as a way of feeling human again, or one act of kindness offsets his atrocious behavior.
This rings of extreme narcissistic behavior - not a "humane" side to a man
10-09-12, 10:21 AM
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Re: Boardwalk Empire -- "Blue Bell Boy" -- 10/07/12
I'm really interested in seeing how the organization changes after the events of this episode. Mickey Doyle fucked up royally, Nucky doesn't seem to trust Owen, and Eli may have redeemed himself. At the end of the episode, I'm assuming that Eli is telling Nucky about the entire incident before he reads about it in the papers.
10-09-12, 12:41 PM
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Re: Boardwalk Empire -- "Blue Bell Boy" -- 10/07/12
Agree, especially about Margaret. She served her purpose in earlier seasons, but it's almost as though they couldn't figure out anything meaningful to do with her so they made this storyline up to keep her busy because it would have been harder to justify her disappearing for a season. It ends up coming off as complete filler, and with so many other fascinating characters and storylines available (Van Alden MIA again?) I don't care for it. Probably my only complaint about the the show other than that it is only an hour long and on once a week.
10-09-12, 09:03 PM
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Re: Boardwalk Empire -- "Blue Bell Boy" -- 10/07/12
I agree that Margaret's storyline is total filler. I don't see anything interesting or relevant coming from it.
I assumed Mickey would be killed off this season due to Eli's comment from the 2nd episode... and now I know he'll be dead. His nines lives were up long ago.
Yes, when Nucky gave the kid the cigarette and after he admitted that he was 19 - you knew Nucky would pop him.
I assumed Mickey would be killed off this season due to Eli's comment from the 2nd episode... and now I know he'll be dead. His nines lives were up long ago.
Yes, when Nucky gave the kid the cigarette and after he admitted that he was 19 - you knew Nucky would pop him.
10-10-12, 12:43 PM
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Re: Boardwalk Empire -- "Blue Bell Boy" -- 10/07/12
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A total character turnaround for Nucky, and the ham-fisted way they expositioned that the kid was an adult so that Nucky would'nt be a child murderer.
Am I the only one who would prefer a show completely about New York, Chicago, and Van Alden? They have to add 'the Battle of Tabor Heights' just to keep Atlantic City marginally interesting.
A total character turnaround for Nucky, and the ham-fisted way they expositioned that the kid was an adult so that Nucky would'nt be a child murderer.
Am I the only one who would prefer a show completely about New York, Chicago, and Van Alden? They have to add 'the Battle of Tabor Heights' just to keep Atlantic City marginally interesting.
10-10-12, 03:04 PM
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A total character turnaround for Nucky, and the ham-fisted way they expositioned that the kid was an adult so that Nucky would'nt be a child murderer.
Am I the only one who would prefer a show completely about New York, Chicago, and Van Alden? They have to add 'the Battle of Tabor Heights' just to keep Atlantic City marginally interesting.
A total character turnaround for Nucky, and the ham-fisted way they expositioned that the kid was an adult so that Nucky would'nt be a child murderer.
Am I the only one who would prefer a show completely about New York, Chicago, and Van Alden? They have to add 'the Battle of Tabor Heights' just to keep Atlantic City marginally interesting.
As to Margaret I quite like her part and I think she will have a very good arc this year if they go where I think they are.
10-10-12, 06:26 PM
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Re: Boardwalk Empire -- "Blue Bell Boy" -- 10/07/12
"A bit" is a massive understatement. Although I bet budget-wise they're loving not showing the Boardwalk.