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Doctor Who S0705: "The Angels Take Manhattan" (9-29-12)



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The Doctor’s heart-breaking farewell to Amy and Rory – a race against time through the streets of Manhattan, as New York’s statues come to life around them…

With Rory’s life in danger, the Doctor and Amy must locate him before it’s too late! Luckily, an old friend helps them and guides the way.


This is the end of the half-season. The Doctor won't be back until the Christmas episode.
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Re: Doctor Who S0705: "The Angels Take Manhattan" (9-29-12)

Felt rushed, as does most every episode of the Moffat era. Sad, but felt more like "it had to happen" rather than "here's a good reason for it to happen".

Being vague until it airs on BBCA
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Re: Doctor Who S0705: "The Angels Take Manhattan" (9-29-12)

I disagree. I think it was a lovely send off for the Ponds. Certainly better than what we got with Donna.

Also Alex Kingston's rack looked exceptional.
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Re: Doctor Who S0705: "The Angels Take Manhattan" (9-29-12)

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I disagree. I think it was a lovely send off for the Ponds. Certainly better than what we got with Donna.

Also Alex Kingston's rack looked exceptional.
MUCH better than Donna. At least the Ponds end up happy and together.

The Angels were scary again; that pre-credits sequence was every bit as eerie as "Blink."

It makes sense that cherubs are baby Angels, and their laughter is creepy as hell.


The (literally) biggest Angel confuses me; it's being watched all the time, so how can it move? Besides, wouldn't its passage resemble the end of Cloverfield?
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If it's anything like the rest of the season I will be seriously underwhelmed. Hoping for the best but completely expecting the worst.

Really going to miss Amelia.
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I liked the story better than any this series, but again I was underwhelmed. There wasn't that big "wtf" moment at any point during the entire run.

I was more upset that Rory's not going to be around more than Amy.

Spoiler:
Nice nod to the Ponds being gone with it being the Williamses on the tombstone instead.

With everyone telling the Doctor not to travel alone, and with how he was acting during A Town Called Mercy, something huge must be coming. Problem is that the new companion is already around the next episode. It'll be interesting to see how they "re" introduce her and if she joins the Doctor right out of the gate.


However, I do have to say the ending pissed me off. Not because of the story but because of a plothole:
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Amy didn't wait through the night until morning for the Doctor to return as a little girl. They've already shown the Doctor returning after she had fallen asleep and putting her to bed.

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Re: Doctor Who S0705: "The Angels Take Manhattan" (9-29-12)

So I guess we won't see the Ponds until the next time.
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Re: Doctor Who S0705: "The Angels Take Manhattan" (9-29-12)

Why can't the Doctor land the TARDIS in New Jersey and take the train in?
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Re: Doctor Who S0705: "The Angels Take Manhattan" (9-29-12)

So many stinking rules.

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The I can't change time if I already know what happens is weak. And, then, how did he go back to Amy as a kid again when he originally didn't show up until years later? He knows he didn't get back to her as a kid. Weak send off and depressing. And, are they stuck in that room together or is it somewhere else? And, if they're stuck in the room, lord help them if they have kids. I can't imagine being stuck in the same room with kids for several decades. And, I hated the Statue of liberty Angel.
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It's nice if you don't think about it too much. I wish their exit would've meant something in the grand scheme, but there doesn't seem to be any sort of grand scheme this year. This was just a one-off episode that included the exit of the Doctor's companions.
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Re: Doctor Who S0705: "The Angels Take Manhattan" (9-29-12)

First, Pizza....Amy can't have kids anymore. Second, the episode was horrible. At least the Power Of Three was decent. The only good episode so far this year.... Hopefully, the Christmas episode will be worth my time.
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Re: Doctor Who S0705: "The Angels Take Manhattan" (9-29-12)

I thought the Angels sent you back in time, but to the same spot you were standing. Therefore, Rory and Amy were safe in that regard, considering where they were.
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Re: Doctor Who S0705: "The Angels Take Manhattan" (9-29-12)

In Blink Nightingale was sent from London to Hull.
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Re: Doctor Who S0705: "The Angels Take Manhattan" (9-29-12)

The Doctor and River both knew it was going to happen. When they were in the cemetary, washing the Tardis, River said "they're going to be bored just hanging around here all day." I thought they were already dead and were ghosts, but then the lone angel showed up to send them back.
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Re: Doctor Who S0705: "The Angels Take Manhattan" (9-29-12)

Originally Posted by Keith6601
The Doctor and River both knew it was going to happen. When they were in the cemetary, washing the Tardis, River said "they're going to be bored just hanging around here all day." I thought they were already dead and were ghosts, but then the lone angel showed up to send them back.
That didn't make any sense to me. They seemed to know but then the Doctor was shocked when the Angel showed up and Amy made her decision.

I thought it was a needlessly sad departure for the 2. I would have liked some sort of build up but we just got a one off episode to get rid of them.

What's up with River and The Doctor still being married. Shouldn't she not know about that at this point? Up until the wedding River knew about it but The Doctor didn't, shouldn't that be reversed now?
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Re: Doctor Who S0705: "The Angels Take Manhattan" (9-29-12)

Originally Posted by Keith6601
The Doctor and River both knew it was going to happen. When they were in the cemetary, washing the Tardis, River said "they're going to be bored just hanging around here all day." I thought they were already dead and were ghosts, but then the lone angel showed up to send them back.
I took that as "If we spend all day cleaning the TARDIS, Amy and Rory will be bored."
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First, Pizza....Amy can't have kids anymore. Second, the episode was horrible. At least the Power Of Three was decent. The only good episode so far this year.... Hopefully, the Christmas episode will be worth my time.
The kid thing was a joke.

The more I think about this episode the more I don't like it. It wasn't thought out very well. And the ending felt just tossed in. The whole time thing and knowing the future is such nonsense. He's a time lord who's always bopping back and forth. It would have been more dramatic to have the Ponds last scene be the one on the roof.
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Re: Doctor Who S0705: "The Angels Take Manhattan" (9-29-12)

The episode was more 'meh'. Had potential as an idea.

I kept waiting for FDR to tell River to 'drop dead!'.
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Originally Posted by Groucho
Why can't the Doctor land the TARDIS in New Jersey and take the train in?
You really think the Doctor would be a B&T?

(I do hope the Doctor goes back and visits Brian. He deserves to know what happened to Rory and Amy).
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Re: Doctor Who S0705: "The Angels Take Manhattan" (9-29-12)

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Why can't the Doctor land the TARDIS in New Jersey and take the train in?
Because New Jersey is worse than Skaro.
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Re: Doctor Who S0705: "The Angels Take Manhattan" (9-29-12)

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I liked the story better than any this series, but again I was underwhelmed. There wasn't that big "wtf" moment at any point during the entire run.

I was more upset that Rory's not going to be around more than Amy.

Spoiler:
Nice nod to the Ponds being gone with it being the Williamses on the tombstone instead.

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However, I do have to say the ending pissed me off. Not because of the story but because of a plothole:
Spoiler:
Amy didn't wait through the night until morning for the Doctor to return as a little girl. They've already shown the Doctor returning after she had fallen asleep and putting her to bed.
The new companion isn't the same character. She's played by the same actress, but the character is just someone from the same family. Sort of like what they did in the episode where they met Charles Dickens. The maid was the great great grandmother of the character from Torchwood.
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Re: Doctor Who S0705: "The Angels Take Manhattan" (9-29-12)

Why can't The Doctor still take Amy and Rory on adventures from past New York rather than present day England (aside from the fact that in real life, Karen Gillan has left the show)? They had basically become part time companions anyways, although I guess the ending of "The Power of Three" meant they were planning on being traveling with him full time.
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Re: Doctor Who S0705: "The Angels Take Manhattan" (9-29-12)

Originally Posted by JasonF
You really think the Doctor would be a B&T?

(I do hope the Doctor goes back and visits Brian. He deserves to know what happened to Rory and Amy).
Originally Posted by Groucho

I hope he does as well but doubt it. Moffat doesn't seem to care about stuff like that.
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Re: Doctor Who S0705: "The Angels Take Manhattan" (9-29-12)

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Why can't The Doctor still take Amy and Rory on adventures from past New York rather than present day England (aside from the fact that in real life, Karen Gillan has left the show)? They had basically become part time companions anyways, although I guess the ending of "The Power of Three" meant they were planning on being traveling with him full time.
The Doctor explained there were huge time distortions around New York and that because of the paradox they created, he can't travel to that time or he'll destroy it.


The book that River wrote and was used for clues is being released this week as an e-book. I admit I'll grab it as soon as it's out.

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