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Ash Ketchum
07-20-12, 08:34 AM
This deserves its own thread.

Breaking story:
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57476379/mass-shooting-at-batman-showing-in-denver-suburb-aurora-colorado/

resinrats
07-20-12, 08:36 AM
:( :(

Hokeyboy
07-20-12, 08:36 AM
It's got one: Gunman opens fire on midnight DKR crowd: kills 10-12 (http://forum.dvdtalk.com/other-talk/603356-gunman-opens-fire-midnight-dkr-crowd-kills-10-12-a.html)

iggystar
07-20-12, 08:52 AM
That's so crazy and sad! Before we left for the movie (me, my brother and daughter), my mother told me, "You guys be careful." I was actually puzzled and asked her what she expected would to be happening at a movie? We live in Detroit, but go to the movies in the suburbs and I've never attributed violence at this kind of movie.

GoldenJCJ
07-20-12, 09:24 AM
That theater is about 20 minutes from my house.

It sounds like a crazy gunman so this probably could have happened at any theater but the Aurora Mall is a shithole. There is no way in hell I'd hang around that area at night unless I was looking to be murdered. Hell, that place is dangerous even in the daytime. There was a shooting at that same mall a year or two ago.

I've got tickets for The Dark Knight Rises at another Aurora theater tonight. Luckily it's a much better part of town.

RichC2
07-20-12, 09:32 AM
I have some friends in Aurora that made that exact same comment.

B5Erik
07-20-12, 10:35 AM
This is insane. Shooting helpless people like that? That's the act of a coward.

I just have to wonder if this will impact how theaters handle security in the future...

It's just a horrible, sad story. And totally pointless.

Troy Stiffler
07-20-12, 10:36 AM
I mentioned that Nolan really taps into the audience's psyche. But holy shit.

GoldenJCJ
07-20-12, 11:10 AM
The badass thing about this is that for the rest of their lives the wounded survivors can start off their stories with "Do you want to know how I got these scars?"

gp1086
07-20-12, 11:23 AM
I am so sad about this. :(

Mr. Cinema
07-20-12, 11:30 AM
Deadline also reports that WB had attached a new trailer for The Gangster Squad, which shows a scene of someone shooting up a theater. Ouch. Talk about bad timing. Apparently the trailer was playing with showings this morning, but was supposed to be pulled.

ezln94
07-20-12, 11:45 AM
a live feed

http://www.radioreference.com/apps/audio/?action=wp&feedId=43

Troy Stiffler
07-20-12, 11:54 AM
And I joke. But this is really bad. As a movie guy, it hits closer to home than a politician getting shot or a high school or college.

It's kind of a shame that the guy didn't kill himself when he was done. O well.

Double_Oh_7
07-20-12, 12:23 PM
I mentioned that Nolan really taps into the audience's psyche. But holy shit.

You going to post this in every forum about the shooting? :rolleyes:

Tom Creo
07-20-12, 02:36 PM
Why would anybody take a 3 month old to a movie theater, let alone a midnight screening?

xage
07-20-12, 02:40 PM
Wow - The Buzz Effect of Dark Knight Rises in Movie Talk Sub Forum!

Shooting In Colorado at DARK KNIGHT RISES screening (http://forum.dvdtalk.com/movie-talk/603360-shooting-colorado-dark-knight-rises-screening.html)

So...who's watching Batman Begins and The Dark Knight this week? (http://forum.dvdtalk.com/movie-talk/603231-so-whos-watching-batman-begins-dark-knight-week.html)

Weekend Box Office (7/20-7/22):The Dark Knight Reigns Supreme (http://forum.dvdtalk.com/movie-talk/603362-weekend-box-office-7-20-7-22-dark-knight-reigns-supreme.html)

The Dark Knight Rises (Nolan, 2012)-The Reviews Thread (http://forum.dvdtalk.com/movie-talk/603255-dark-knight-rises-nolan-2012-reviews-thread.html)

The Dark Knight Rises(Nolan) (http://forum.dvdtalk.com/movie-talk/538555-dark-knight-rises-nolan.html)

Troy Stiffler
07-20-12, 03:27 PM
You going to post this in every forum about the shooting? :rolleyes:

All twenty of them!

The Antipodean
07-20-12, 05:04 PM
Just makes me very sad for my home country, and its total lack of gun control. Other nations have had crazed gunmen too, but the US has a knack for it.

PenguinJoe
07-20-12, 05:12 PM
Apparently he originally wanted to stage his rampage during a screening of "Battleship" but no one was in the theater.

Solid Snake
07-20-12, 05:18 PM
Wow - The Buzz Effect of Dark Knight Rises in Movie Talk Sub Forum!

Shooting In Colorado at DARK KNIGHT RISES screening (http://forum.dvdtalk.com/movie-talk/603360-shooting-colorado-dark-knight-rises-screening.html)

So...who's watching Batman Begins and The Dark Knight this week? (http://forum.dvdtalk.com/movie-talk/603231-so-whos-watching-batman-begins-dark-knight-week.html)

Weekend Box Office (7/20-7/22):The Dark Knight Reigns Supreme (http://forum.dvdtalk.com/movie-talk/603362-weekend-box-office-7-20-7-22-dark-knight-reigns-supreme.html)

The Dark Knight Rises (Nolan, 2012)-The Reviews Thread (http://forum.dvdtalk.com/movie-talk/603255-dark-knight-rises-nolan-2012-reviews-thread.html)

The Dark Knight Rises(Nolan) (http://forum.dvdtalk.com/movie-talk/538555-dark-knight-rises-nolan.html)

what the fuck are you doing in the movie forum? Get your ass back in the HD forum.

Giles
07-20-12, 11:04 PM
what the fuck are you doing in the movie forum? Get your ass back in the HD forum.

... whoah... someone must have pissed in your coffee.

Dragon Tattoo
07-20-12, 11:31 PM
Apparently he originally wanted to stage his rampage during a screening of "Battleship" but no one was in the theater.

:lol:

Ash Ketchum
07-21-12, 08:18 AM
The New York Post found a Dark Knight comic with a gunman-in-a-movie theater scenario:

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/rampage_echoes_comic_book_plot_VfeOxshwsJkadLOePIOdtI

At the bottom of the article, you'll find the comic book panels being cited.

They're not saying it inspired the killer, just pointing out the parallel.

Solid Snake
07-21-12, 11:48 AM
... whoah... someone must have pissed in your coffee.

Is your detector not working?

arminius
07-21-12, 04:34 PM
Just makes me very sad for my home country, and its total lack of gun control. Other nations have had crazed gunmen too, but the US has a knack for it.

So you would have been alright if he used explosives or gas bombs, just guns should not be used by nuts. Maybe we can pass laws to make evil illegal. That should do it.

Look what this asshole did. Do you really think that if only he did not have a gun he would have just lived a full and productive life. Do you know how easy it is to make explosives or pyro? What really matters is was he circumsized and how did this cause his insanity.

JeffTheAlpaca
07-21-12, 04:41 PM
If this had to happen why not at a Kardashians TV shoot?

mrhan
07-21-12, 04:44 PM
The New York Post found a Dark Knight comic with a gunman-in-a-movie theater scenario:

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/rampage_echoes_comic_book_plot_VfeOxshwsJkadLOePIOdtI

At the bottom of the article, you'll find the comic book panels being cited.

They're not saying it inspired the killer, just pointing out the parallel.

I can see it now. Some idiot is gonna read that article and start spouting comic books are a bad influence for kids. -rolleyes-

PatD
07-21-12, 05:16 PM
This is a good story about Taking Back the Knight (http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/abc-blogs/movie-jitters-one-day-later-colorado-shooting-survivor-162047042--abc-news-topstories.html).

mhg83
07-21-12, 07:45 PM
So this pretty much makes the possibility of cell phone jammers in theaters never gonna happen after this incident?

crazyronin
07-21-12, 08:44 PM
The New York Post found a Dark Knight comic with a gunman-in-a-movie theater scenario:

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/rampage_echoes_comic_book_plot_VfeOxshwsJkadLOePIOdtI

At the bottom of the article, you'll find the comic book panels being cited.

They're not saying it inspired the killer, just pointing out the parallel.

I wasn't aware that DKR was having a midnight premiere at a porn theater.

The only "eerie similarity" is the media idiot referring to it as a batman inspired shootout.

hasslein
07-22-12, 12:45 PM
John Elway & Peyton Manning are to blame.... ;)

riotinmyskull
07-22-12, 01:44 PM
i'm not sure if it's been mentioned (i'm sure it has but i've been day drinking and don't feel like reading the whole thread) but does anyone find it crazy that columbine high school is only 20 miles away?

Solid Snake
07-22-12, 01:51 PM
No.

riotinmyskull
07-22-12, 01:56 PM
No.

really? 2 VERY similar scenarios within 20 miles of each other? you don't find that a bit odd? or are you saying that it makes sense?

Troy Stiffler
07-22-12, 02:04 PM
really? 2 VERY similar scenarios within 20 miles of each other? you don't find that a bit odd? or are you saying that it makes sense?

Yes. Doesn't shock me. It was probably a big thing for the kid. And when that kind of thing is "normalized" in a kid's head, it makes it easier to do. Just like when parents are alcoholics, drug users, adulterous, abusive, etc. Or if you grow up in a bad neighborhood, you become like the bad people around you.

Solid Snake
07-22-12, 02:20 PM
really? 2 VERY similar scenarios within 20 miles of each other? you don't find that a bit odd? or are you saying that it makes sense?

i'm saying...the location is irrelevant. Could Columbine have an impact on him? sure, why not? Does it, i don't know. A shooting 20 miles away from something like that isn't amazing in the grand scheme of things. Merely coincidence. That's it. I'm not downplaying the impact of lives lost. But...it's not amazing to me.

Supermallet
07-22-12, 05:03 PM
You're not allowed to believe in coincidence anymore.

yoshimi
07-23-12, 11:56 AM
Has Pat Robertson made his required hateful remarks yet?

lizard
07-23-12, 12:54 PM
i'm not sure if it's been mentioned (i'm sure it has but i've been day drinking and don't feel like reading the whole thread) but does anyone find it crazy that columbine high school is only 20 miles away?

Yes. Doesn't shock me. It was probably a big thing for the kid. And when that kind of thing is "normalized" in a kid's head, it makes it easier to do. Just like when parents are alcoholics, drug users, adulterous, abusive, etc. Or if you grow up in a bad neighborhood, you become like the bad people around you.

i'm saying...the location is irrelevant. Could Columbine have an impact on him? sure, why not? Does it, i don't know. A shooting 20 miles away from something like that isn't amazing in the grand scheme of things. Merely coincidence. That's it. I'm not downplaying the impact of lives lost. But...it's not amazing to me.The shooter grew up in San Diego not Colorado. He had only been in Colorado for a short time while attending grad school, so no connection to the Columbine shootings at all.

Coincidences happen. I do wish he had picked on another state though.

alfredog1976
07-24-12, 05:27 PM
Christian Bale visits with some of the victims today:
http://www.denverpost.com/theatershooting/ci_21147699/christian-bale-town-visiting-victims-shooting

asianxcore
07-24-12, 06:09 PM
Ugh! People in San Jose are sick.

http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2012/07/24/bomb-scare-empties-san-jose-theater-showing-dark-knight/

RocShemp
07-24-12, 09:33 PM
Christian Bale visits with some of the victims today:
http://www.denverpost.com/theatershooting/ci_21147699/christian-bale-town-visiting-victims-shooting

That was cool of him. :up:

sharkstank
07-25-12, 01:22 AM
Ugh! People in San Jose are sick.

http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2012/07/24/bomb-scare-empties-san-jose-theater-showing-dark-knight/

I came to post that story, I just saw it. That is the theater closest to where I live and where I watched the movie Thursday night at midnight. I really hope they catch the person, but man, easy to say what you'd do in a situation like that, but hard to actually know. Must have been pretty damn scary for those people.

And HEY, don't lump all of us in San Jose with that one guy haha. How dare you.

And yes, Christian Bale is cool.

mhg83
03-27-13, 06:18 PM
Colorado movie theater shooting suspect offers guilty plea

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/03/27/colorado-movie-theater-shooting-suspect-offers-guilty-plea/#ixzz2OmjAqrqR

Colorado theater shooting suspect James Holmes has offered to plead guilty and serve the rest of his life in prison to avoid the death penalty -- a deal that would bring a swift end to the sometimes wrenching courtroom battle and circumvent a prolonged debate over his sanity.

Prosecutors haven't said whether they would accept the offer, and victims and survivors of last summer's massacre were divided on what should be done.
Melisa Cowden, whose ex-husband was killed in the theater, said Wednesday she was resolutely opposed to a plea deal.
"He didn't give 12 people the chance to plea bargain and say, `Let's see if you're going to shoot me or not,"' said Cowden, whose two teenage daughters were with their father when he was killed.
"No. No plea bargain," she said.


The attack during a crowded midnight showing of "The Dark Knight Rises" left a dozen people dead and 70 injured.
Prosecutors have said Holmes planned the assault for months, casing the theater complex in the Denver suburb of Aurora, amassing a small arsenal and rigging potentially deadly booby-traps in his apartment.
Then on July 20, he donned a police-style helmet and body armor, tossed a gas canister into the theater crowd and opened fire, prosecutors said.
The plea offer, made by Holmes' lawyers on his behalf earlier this month, was disclosed a defense court filing on Wednesday. It was made public just days before the prosecution was set to announce whether they would seek the death penalty.


The filing didn't include the specifics of the offer. It said only that Holmes would agree to life in prison without parole -- instead of the death penalty -- and didn't mention any other concessions.
Pierce O'Farrill, who was shot three times, said he would welcome an agreement that would imprison Holmes for life. The years of court struggles ahead would likely be emotionally stressful for victims, he said.
"I don't see his death bringing me peace," O'Farrill said. "To me, my prayer for him was that he would spend the rest of his life in prison and hopefully, in all those years he has left, he could find God and ask for forgiveness himself."
Tom Sullivan, whose son Alex was killed, said he has wanted prosecutors to pursue the death penalty. But he said he wouldn't object to a plea agreement if it avoided a lengthy court battle -- and if Holmes got no privileges in prison.
"That was kind of a sore point with us," he said, referring to privileges such as outside exercise or listening to music. "We didn't think this kind of person should have any kind of privileges except the bare essentials."


Holmes, a former graduate student at the University of Colorado, Denver, had seen a psychiatrist at the school before the shootings.
His lawyers have said he was taken to a hospital psychiatric ward in November because he was considered a threat to himself. Holmes was held there for several days and spent much of the time in restraints.
In their court filing, Holmes' lawyers again said they were exploring a plea of not guilty by reason of insanity and would mount a vigorous defense if prosecutors rejected the plea offer and the case goes to trial.


Holmes was widely expected to enter an insanity plea at his arraignment on March 12, but his attorneys told District Judge William Sylvester they had too many questions about the constitutionality of Colorado's death penalty and insanity statutes to advise Holmes on how to plead.
Sylvester then entered a plea of not guilty on Holmes' behalf but said he could change it later to insanity if he chose.
The judge scheduled the trial to start Aug. 5, setting aside four weeks.
Doug Wilson, who heads the state public defenders' office, told The Associated Press Wednesday that prosecutors haven't responded to the offer. He didn't know whether prosecutors had relayed the offer with any victims as required by state law.
Prosecutors declined to comment on Wednesday.
Dan Recht, a past president of the Colorado Criminal Defense Bar, said prosecutors likely started talking to victims long ago.
"The defense, by making this public pleading, is reaching out to the victims' families," Recht said.

Mabuse
03-28-13, 12:22 PM
Then on July 20, he donned a police-style helmet and body armor, tossed a gas canister into the theater crowd and opened fire, prosecutors said.
He was not wearing any kind of bullet proof body armor. This detail is constantly misreported.

GoldenJCJ
03-28-13, 12:44 PM
Maybe someone with legal experience can answer this for me. If the defense is offering a guilty plea for life in prison and if the prosecution chooses NOT to accept their offer how can the defense then continue the trial with a possible insanity defense? Haven't they just admitted that he wasn't insane with their guilty plea?

Mr. Salty
03-28-13, 04:20 PM
He was not wearing any kind of bullet proof body armor. This detail is constantly misreported.

It isn't misreported. Prosecutors keep saying that he was. Either the prosecutors are wrong (and Holmes' attorneys aren't objecting) or he was wearing body armor in addition to the tactical vest.

DaveyJoe
03-28-13, 05:54 PM
Also, he never used the AR15, it was found in his trunk after the shooting.