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Alan Smithee
07-19-12, 02:57 AM
Went to the state fair today and looked through a couple buildings where people were selling random crap- most of it stuff like cosmetics or what have you. There was one guy whose sign said "Classic Movies" and he had several shelves full on DVDs out, and almost ALL of them were obviously copies- you could tell that the covers had been scanned and printed on a computer. Most of them weren't even rare, just titles that had been out for a while and still in print, and he was selling these for about the same price as the legitimate product. I opened one up and the disc inside was a printable DVD-R with the legitimate disc's label scanned and printed on it. The disc was probably a single-layer, meaning the content had been compressed to fit on it. He had a few other things like some out-of-print Paramount movies and some TV shows like Batman which have never had a legit DVD release. Up front he had a shelf full of Song of the South (priced at $39.99) with it playing on an LCD screen, it looked like it had been transferred from a VHS tape. The covers looked like scans of the UK VHS release with "NTSC Region 1" printed on the back cover. The guy was telling people they were imports from England, but of course if they were they'd be in PAL format and probably region 2- as far as I know it was released there on VHS but never on DVD.

Sure Disney deserves to have Song of the South bootlegged as long as they continue to keep it locked up, and so does Paramount for taking so many discs out of print, but I still couldn't believe the balls this guy had selling this stuff out in the open at an event like this. I could see him doing it at a flea market or something like that, but not a state fair. The fair has been going on since last Thursday so there he should have been busted by now, but nobody there seemed to notice. I couldn't help myself- I called the MPAA's piracy hotline (1-800-NO-COPYS) and ratted him out. Wonder if they'll actually do something, or if they'll just sit on their hands and continue to advocate internet snooping and crap like that. If anybody on here goes there, let me know if you see him.

adrenaline78
07-19-12, 09:30 AM
Did you tell the guy you liked his collection of bootlegs?

Lastdaysofrain
07-19-12, 12:35 PM
Some of these guys are sold brazen and bold with it that I wonder if they actually don't know they are bootlegs themselves.

TheBang
07-19-12, 06:32 PM
I'm sure they know. It's just like the people who sell counterfeit Gucci and Prada bags at things like this for $10.

Texan26
07-19-12, 06:49 PM
There's a local comic book shop that sells bootlegs like the ones you mentioned. I don't see how they get away with it out in the public like that.

My Other Self
07-19-12, 07:51 PM
You called the MPAA's piracy hotline over some guy selling some crap at the state fair? Seriously? :lol:

Nobody goes to the state fair anymore, attendance has plummeted. So as prestigious as you seem to think it is, it's not. Ever since they moved it back from August nobody goes and as a thread I created here a few years ago shows, nobody from other parts of the state treks to Sac just to go. It's a local fair with a bigger sounding name since we live in the capital.

I seriously doubt you put a dent in the guy's day, but good effort.

Lastdaysofrain
07-20-12, 07:09 AM
I was at a Comic Con in Boston close to 10 years ago and it got raided for bootlegs. It was kind of nuts. The show was bootleg free for the next six months or so until it slowly crept back in.

LJG765
07-22-12, 12:41 AM
You called the MPAA's piracy hotline over some guy selling some crap at the state fair? Seriously? :lol:

Nobody goes to the state fair anymore, attendance has plummeted. So as prestigious as you seem to think it is, it's not. Ever since they moved it back from August nobody goes and as a thread I created here a few years ago shows, nobody from other parts of the state treks to Sac just to go. It's a local fair with a bigger sounding name since we live in the capital.

I seriously doubt you put a dent in the guy's day, but good effort.

Um, maybe yours, but the MN State Fair is huge. Don't go if you're claustrophobic. And when I go to the WI state fair, it's pretty big too.

movieguru
07-22-12, 07:57 AM
They sell tons of bootlegs at the Comic cons all over the country. They're mostly out of print titles or titles that have never been released. But, they also have tv shows that are just being aired on tv and they have sets for them as well. I see mostly the same people sellers at these cons and nothing ever seems to happen to them.

Alan Smithee
07-22-12, 02:07 PM
And if studios keep putting out their own legitimate releases on DVD-R, it's going to be harder to tell what is a legitimate product and what isn't. If they're going to do that and not bust people like this selling copies out in the open, I don't want to hear them complaining about it anymore.

My Other Self
07-22-12, 03:59 PM
Um, maybe yours, but the MN State Fair is huge. Don't go if you're claustrophobic. And when I go to the WI state fair, it's pretty big too.This is California, significantly larger in population. Every part of the state has their own county/regional fairs throughout the year.

The state fair here is a glorified Sacramento County fair, nothing more. To call me out like I'm throwing all state fairs under the same umbrella is pretty stupid since I was obviously talking to Smithee about what we have here.

SterlingBen
07-22-12, 06:11 PM
where people were selling random crap- most of it stuff like cosmetics or what have you.

They steal that stuff from CVS, Walgreens, Walmart, ect and then sell it for cash at venues like this (or they buy from the thieves to flip at places like this).

Never buy this kind of stuff.

Alan Smithee
07-15-13, 11:39 PM
Get this- I was there yesterday to see Weird Al and we went through some of the crappy buildings beforehand, and this SAME guy was there again, in the SAME place selling the SAME copied DVDs with some new ones added! I give up- I basically led the MPAA's anti-piracy effort to this guy last year, and they obviously did NOTHING. I think that proves that all the warnings they make us watch at the beginning of discs are scare tactics, and nothing more.

The Man with the Golden Doujinshi
07-16-13, 09:47 AM
Alan Smithee, doing his part to try and put mom and pop stores out of business.

Weird Al is up at my fair today.

My Other Self
07-16-13, 06:08 PM
Get this- I was there yesterday to see Weird Al and we went through some of the crappy buildings beforehand, and this SAME guy was there again, in the SAME place selling the SAME copied DVDs with some new ones added! I give up- I basically led the MPAA's anti-piracy effort to this guy last year, and they obviously did NOTHING. I think that proves that all the warnings they make us watch at the beginning of discs are scare tactics, and nothing more.I have such a difficult time believing half of your posts. I can rarely tell if you're serious or just being overly dramatic for effect.

Alan Smithee
07-17-13, 02:32 AM
Well, in this case it's only fair given how overly dramatic most of the copyright warnings and such have been. They can keep saying "The FBI is watching you and will do terrible things to you if you even THINK about copying this movie!" but when someone does it SO out in the open like this and gets away with it, even after they've been reported to a so-called "hotline" set up specifically to stop this very thing, it just proves that such "anti-piracy efforts" are all talk and no action.

dan30oly
07-17-13, 09:47 AM
pics or it didn't happen

The Man with the Golden Doujinshi
07-17-13, 12:34 PM
but when someone does it SO out in the open like this and gets away with it, even after they've been reported to a so-called "hotline" set up specifically to stop this very thing, it just proves that such "anti-piracy efforts" are all talk and no action.

Except there are actually tons of arrests but they don't have field offices across the country setup where a special team of agents, always on call, slide down a pole into their crime fighting unit, flying through the streets with their sirens blazing, shooting everyone in their way to get a guy at a fair.

Cardsfan111
07-17-13, 01:10 PM
I think you should create a bogus MPAA ID and bust him yourself.

Nate Boss
07-17-13, 01:47 PM
why not just stand in front of his stand and call out "BOOTLEGS! WHO WANTS BOOTLEGS!??!" and draw attention to the twat?

PhantomStranger
07-17-13, 02:18 PM
Well, in this case it's only fair given how overly dramatic most of the copyright warnings and such have been. They can keep saying "The FBI is watching you and will do terrible things to you if you even THINK about copying this movie!" but when someone does it SO out in the open like this and gets away with it, even after they've been reported to a so-called "hotline" set up specifically to stop this very thing, it just proves that such "anti-piracy efforts" are all talk and no action.
The anti-piracy efforts, even the occasional arrests, are largely a PR attempt to remind consumers it is illegal. I thought everyone understood that Hollywood doesn't have the means to entirely eliminate piracy and the over-the-top warnings on DVDs are meant to scare the 25% of the population that actually respond to empty threats.

Ropes Pierre
07-21-13, 12:32 PM
I think it would have been cool if you and three friends had kicked over his table, and someone with a Scottish accent said "THAT's the Chicago way!"

jjcool
07-21-13, 01:40 PM
Except there are actually tons of arrests but they don't have field offices across the country setup where a special team of agents, always on call, slide down a pole into their crime fighting unit, flying through the streets with their sirens blazing, shooting everyone in their way to get a guy at a fair.

So no field office within a years drive of Sacramento?
I find that hard to believe.

DaveWadding
07-21-13, 03:46 PM
You wouldn't steal a car...

E_v_i_l
07-21-13, 10:37 PM
You wouldn't steal a handbag...

ddrknghtrtns
07-29-13, 05:22 AM
I think the MPAA is more concerned about the pirating of new theatrical and just released on blu-ray and DVD movies and features.

fumanstan
07-31-13, 04:27 PM
This is California, significantly larger in population. Every part of the state has their own county/regional fairs throughout the year.

The state fair here is a glorified Sacramento County fair, nothing more. To call me out like I'm throwing all state fairs under the same umbrella is pretty stupid since I was obviously talking to Smithee about what we have here.

Having been to the State Fair as well, I agree. I thought the county ones, particularly the OC Fair that I go to every year, was far better. My girlfriend and I had thought the State Fair would be better based on name, but I guess not :(

mhg83
07-31-13, 09:22 PM
You wouldn't steal a car...

http://obsoletegamer.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/You-Wouldnt-Download-A-Car.jpg

JeffTheAlpaca
08-01-13, 05:04 PM
Who cares and don't buy them!

I bet if DVDs were a lot cheaper more people would probably buy them.

Gizmo
08-02-13, 09:21 AM
If this is the way for me to get Pete and Pete Season 3, SHOW ME THE BOOTLEGS!

Numanoid
08-21-13, 03:39 AM
^ That's not hard to find.

Flicker
10-08-13, 08:15 PM
Several years ago there was a vendor selling "Song Of The South" and the old "Amos 'N Andy" series on DVDs at a seafood festival in lower Alabama. I haven't seen him (or others) since however I did not go last year. Wish now I had bought the "Amos 'N Andy" sets.

PhantomStranger
10-08-13, 08:38 PM
Several years ago there was a vendor selling "Song Of The South" and the old "Amos 'N Andy" series on DVDs at a seafood festival in lower Alabama. I haven't seen him (or others) since however I did not go last year. Wish now I had bought the "Amos 'N Andy" sets.
There are still bootleg DVD sellers on the Net, offering pretty much every show that will never see an official release. It's not hard finding them if you know the right keywords on Google.

Alan Smithee
10-09-13, 12:20 AM
Might have been the same guy I saw, though what made me try to turn him in was a lot of his stuff was copies of legitimate DVDs with scanned covers. Again, I'm convinced that all the threats against copying which have been on video media since its inception are empty- though if I tried doing it myself, I'd probably be in jail by the end of the day. :)

SterlingBen
10-09-13, 01:01 AM
I just saw the guy you mention at the Tulsa State Fair. Saw a man interested in SOTS then he saw the price, laughed and walked away.

Wish we got Weird Al out here but no cigar.

Abob Teff
10-09-13, 10:50 PM
I think it would have been cool if you and three friends had kicked over his table, and someone with a Scottish accent said "THAT's the Chicago way!"

You wanna know how to get this jabrone? They pull a VHS, you pull a DVD. He sends one of yours to the video store, you send one of his to the Redbox. *That's* the *Chicago* way!

Alan Smithee
10-10-13, 01:08 AM
Wish we got Weird Al out here but no cigar.

But he filmed "UHF" in Tulsa! (However that was not one of the bootlegged movies sold by this guy.)

EddieMoney
10-10-13, 11:12 AM
Nobody buys DVDs anymore. This seller is an idiot.

Alan Smithee
07-18-14, 06:06 PM
Well, guess what? State Fair is going on again this year, I wasn't planning on going but my friend from out of town (who has worked for Disney) was here and there was nothing else to do, so we went and THIS GUY WAS THERE YET AGAIN! I finally confronted him this time. I told him his Song of the South disc was obviously a fake- he said "It's imported." I said "From where, China?" "No, England." I pointed to the "NTSC" indication on the back cover and I said "If this were from England, it'd be in PAL, not NTSC and most likely region coded." He started looking like he wished he could just disappear. I picked up another disc and told him the cover was obviously scanned and printed on a computer, he just played dumb saying "I dunno about that." I then said there was a discussion about him on the internet and said many people were asking how he's managed to get away with it for 3 years in a row now- he said "Nobody's complained so far- been doing this for years."

So I finally took the advice of a previous poster and started yelling "BOOTLEGS! GET YOUR ILLEGAL BOOTLEGS RIGHT HERE FOLKS!" but nobody batted an eye.

Today I called the MPAA again and they seemed less than concerned, they just said "We'll have to look into it again," solidifying my suspicion that their organization is really just a big joke. I called someone at Cal Expo in charge of the vendors and they seemed surprised, saying that his stuff looked legitimate to them but they'd take another look at it. Finally I called Disney and they actually seemed interested, so MAYBE they just might send someone over to check him out. (He was also selling copies of "So Dear to My Heart" which has only been issued through the Disney Movie Club, his cover was home-made rather than scanned from that disc.)

DVD Josh
07-18-14, 07:21 PM
So your landlord's workers rat you out and you rat others out. You are a real gem of a person Alan. Maybe you didn't get that internship not because they couldn't clear you in time but because they found out you were the Edward Snowden of bootleg DVDs.

Hokeyboy
07-18-14, 07:49 PM
Did you also remind the math teacher than she forgot to assign her geometry assignment right as bell rang at the end of class?

fumanstan
07-18-14, 09:38 PM
So your landlord's workers rat you out and you rat others out. You are a real gem of a person Alan. Maybe you didn't get that internship not because they couldn't clear you in time but because they found out you were the Edward Snowden of bootleg DVDs.

:lol:

Good thing you don't go to swap meets and flea markets. You'd spend a whole day on the phone trying to rat people out.

My Other Self
07-18-14, 10:22 PM
Well, guess what? State Fair is going on again this year, I wasn't planning on going but my friend from out of town (who has worked for Disney) was here and there was nothing else to do, so we went and THIS GUY WAS THERE YET AGAIN! I finally confronted him this time. I told him his Song of the South disc was obviously a fake- he said "It's imported." I said "From where, China?" "No, England." I pointed to the "NTSC" indication on the back cover and I said "If this were from England, it'd be in PAL, not NTSC and most likely region coded." He started looking like he wished he could just disappear. I picked up another disc and told him the cover was obviously scanned and printed on a computer, he just played dumb saying "I dunno about that." I then said there was a discussion about him on the internet and said many people were asking how he's managed to get away with it for 3 years in a row now- he said "Nobody's complained so far- been doing this for years."

So I finally took the advice of a previous poster and started yelling "BOOTLEGS! GET YOUR ILLEGAL BOOTLEGS RIGHT HERE FOLKS!" but nobody batted an eye.

Today I called the MPAA again and they seemed less than concerned, they just said "We'll have to look into it again," solidifying my suspicion that their organization is really just a big joke. I called someone at Cal Expo in charge of the vendors and they seemed surprised, saying that his stuff looked legitimate to them but they'd take another look at it. Finally I called Disney and they actually seemed interested, so MAYBE they just might send someone over to check him out. (He was also selling copies of "So Dear to My Heart" which has only been issued through the Disney Movie Club, his cover was home-made rather than scanned from that disc.)What's funny is when I saw the fair was starting this week, my first thought was to bump this very thread to see if you were going to track this guy down again.

But you already did it for me.

You have way too much fucking time on your hands.

dan30oly
07-18-14, 10:38 PM
they found out you were the Edward Snowden of bootleg DVDs.

That is completely unfair to Edward Snowden.

Please take it back.

Alan Smithee
07-19-14, 04:00 AM
You are a real gem of a person Alan.

More of a gem than this guy who is selling counterfeit stuff out in the open, charging people the same price for a burned copy as they would pay for a legitimate one and telling people they ARE legitimate? I don't "rat people out" for casually making copies, but I just couldn't believe this guy was selling SO many of them in a public place for this long. It really shows how many people can't tell a scanned copy of a cover from a real one also, not to mention that the anti-piracy hotline that's been around longer than DVDs have (1-800-NO-COPYS) is completely useless, and all those warnings that we've been forced to sit through for decades are really just to scare us.

Good thing you don't go to swap meets and flea markets. You'd spend a whole day on the phone trying to rat people out.


I go to flea markets all the time, and I've NEVER seen such a blatant rip-off artist as this guy. The worst I've ever seen at a flea market was a guy selling DVDs of recent movies in paper sleeves, most likely camcorded in theaters, and another selling CDs with scanned-copied covers, unsealed with CD-Rs inside. I only saw each of those guys ONE time as well, they were at least smart enough to quit while they were ahead, as I've heard flea market sellers DO eventually get busted if they're selling counterfeit goods. I've also heard that if you sell counterfeit media on Ebay, all it takes is ONE report from someone to get your account deleted. DVDTalk and other forums with "for sale" sections all have zero-tolerance policies for anyone selling copied discs.

If I had the balls this guy has, I could be doing the same thing and making a few bucks off it (and of course explaining exactly how to copy DVDs has always been the most verboten subject on forums like this.) I've never tried it because the consequences didn't seem nearly worth it, but seeing this guy getting away with it for so long makes me wonder if I shouldn't have tried it in more desperate times.

Put it this way- I'm sure at least a FEW people on this forum can at least tell right away whether a DVD is pressed or burned- wouldn't you feel the least bit ripped-off if you'd bought a disc you THOUGHT was legit but you found out it was a copy after you got it home? Don't even think of the greedy movie studios, just think of yourself and this guy making money from it.

Did you also remind the math teacher than she forgot to assign her geometry assignment right as bell rang at the end of class?

Thank you for reminding me of the time in high school when I'd forgotten to do my homework assignment, and miraculously the teacher didn't ask for it during class, and then someone asked in the last few minutes "Aren't you going to collect the homework?"

fumanstan
07-19-14, 12:09 PM
So you're only upset because this guy's bootlegs look more authentic? I see bootleg and copied movies all the time at flea markets; just seems like you shouldn't single this guy out if you're going to go the high and mighty route and causing a scene. I guess if it means patting yourself on the back though...

Honestly at the end of the day, groups like the MPAA don't give a shit about small time people like this because it's going to happen no matter what and it's too much time and effort to try and stop guys selling copies of movies on every corner of the street. I imagine they're far more concerned about digital piracy over stuff like this now.

DVD Polizei
07-19-14, 01:29 PM
Yeah, I would think digital piracy, you can easily stop hundreds of thousands of users...versus some guy who sells to maybe a few dozen people a day at a local flea market.

Deftones
07-19-14, 02:24 PM
it's odd that the MPAA isn't really doing anything. i've dealt with them before on a case. they sent out a private investigator multiple times to a swap meet to catch a guy selling bootleg dvds. granted, this was years ago, but it seems weird they wouldn't at least investigate it.

MLBFan24
07-19-14, 03:41 PM
I was at the fair last weekend, saw the vendor, and was reminded of this thread.

But that's about it...haha

It was too hot to care. I just needed an ICEE (gets reminded of another thread...)

PhantomStranger
07-19-14, 04:43 PM
The MPAA is not really concerned with enforcing anti-piracy tactics on a street level. It would be too expensive and impractical to enforce on a local level.

The entire anti-piracy efforts as seen on Hollywood media (flashing the big FBI sign before every video and on every copy) is mostly a marketing campaign meant to ensure that law-abiding citizens highly value Hollywood's content. It is intended to work on a subliminal level, hoping to keep as much of the population as it can from pirating their movies. The MPAA knows their anti-piracy trappings (a hot line, various PSAs, etc.) does nothing against people intent on criminal activity.

dsa_shea
07-19-14, 06:26 PM
The way you stop this guy from selling his copies is to set up a table close by and sell the exact same stuff for a dollar less. That will stop him.

Deftones
07-20-14, 02:27 PM
The MPAA is not really concerned with enforcing anti-piracy tactics on a street level. It would be too expensive and impractical to enforce on a local level.

The entire anti-piracy efforts as seen on Hollywood media (flashing the big FBI sign before every video and on every copy) is mostly a marketing campaign meant to ensure that law-abiding citizens highly value Hollywood's content. It is intended to work on a subliminal level, hoping to keep as much of the population as it can from pirating their movies. The MPAA knows their anti-piracy trappings (a hot line, various PSAs, etc.) does nothing against people intent on criminal activity.

that's completely not true, though. i've been directly involved where they hired a PI in my town to help investigate a situation identical to the OP's post. it was a guy at a table selling bootleg dvds at a swap meet. :shrug:

Living Dead
07-20-14, 11:27 PM
that's completely not true, though. i've been directly involved where they hired a PI in my town to help investigate a situation identical to the OP's post. it was a guy at a table selling bootleg dvds at a swap meet. :shrug:

They hired a PI? So they don't even have their own people to investigate the very thing the hotline is supposed to prevent? That's hilarious.

PhantomStranger
07-20-14, 11:53 PM
that's completely not true, though. i've been directly involved where they hired a PI in my town to help investigate a situation identical to the OP's post. it was a guy at a table selling bootleg dvds at a swap meet. :shrug:
You are obviously an MPAA plant on this forum. Bravo on continuing the charade since 1999.:lol: Seriously, your case might have been the one time they actually investigated something. They do try to coordinate activities in L.A. and New York, since most pirated Asian bootlegs come in through those two cities. New York and New Jersey are awash in pirated media.

fumanstan
07-21-14, 12:01 AM
Maybe they just changed their focus, and don't care about the street corner seller anymore like they used to? :shrug:

Ash Ketchum
07-21-14, 09:51 AM
I just discovered this thread. Where have I been for the last two years?

[Note to self: check in again in July 2015 to see Alan Smithee once again confront the Nefarious Bootlegger at the State Fair.]

I've never actually been to a State Fair. They don't seem to have such things in New York City. Maybe I should fly out to this one next year, find the bootlegger and say to him, "So you're the bootlegger I've been reading so much about on the internet. They say that if I bring a printout of this entire thread, I'll get a free copy of SONG OF THE SOUTH with every two other DVDs I purchase." Think it'll work?

Alan, why don't you make this guy an offer? Have him sell off the bulk of your collection--on consignment--in exchange for stopping the calls to the MPAA. You'll kill two birds with one stone.

Noonan
07-21-14, 10:00 AM
I see fake products at local flea markets all the time. Last one I went to had a guy with a booth filled with nothing but fake NorthFace and Under Armor gear. No one seemed to care and he wasn't fooling anyone regarding its authenticity.

Deftones
07-21-14, 11:44 AM
They hired a PI? So they don't even have their own people to investigate the very thing the hotline is supposed to prevent? That's hilarious.

it is out of state. it was cheaper to hire a PI who had done this work before than fly someone to my state and put them up to investigate.

My Other Self
07-21-14, 03:47 PM
I've never actually been to a State Fair. They don't seem to have such things in New York City.It's a glorified county fair. They call it the State Fair because its held here, which is the state capital. I'm sure there are regional county fairs in the Tri-State area somewhere. It's the same thing.

MLBFan24
07-21-14, 10:03 PM
And it's the same thing every year. Something to do with family and friends, but it's literally the same thing every year. Every vendor, exhibit, and activity in the exact same spot.

This year's Stage Nine booth (candy theme) is recycled from about four years ago (my friend made some of the candy props for that exhibit, and I saw the same exact props again this year). We both did some props for the toy theme many years ago as well. I can say I'm proud of myself for putting up drywall for that exhibit..haha

That guy is a prop master. I always pick his brain when Halloween rolls around.

My Other Self
07-21-14, 11:30 PM
The only redeeming qualities the fair has is the food. They even did an episode of Man vs. Food in Sac and that was one of the stops.

Ash Ketchum
07-22-14, 09:19 AM
It's a glorified county fair. They call it the State Fair because its held here, which is the state capital. I'm sure there are regional county fairs in the Tri-State area somewhere. It's the same thing.

Does New York Comic Con qualify as a county fair? Hey, they sell bootlegs, too! :D

The Valeyard
07-22-14, 02:13 PM
Do not go to China, Alan Smithee. Your head would explode.

Alan Smithee
07-22-14, 02:23 PM
I've heard in China, legit copies are the exception rather than the rule. I've been getting emails in the past week from Warner Archive telling me to go to Comic-Con, but it's too far for me. Seems if Warner were there they'd have people looking out for bootlegs, though of course Warner Archive discs are essentially legalized bootlegs as they're on DVD-Rs. :)

Ash Ketchum
07-22-14, 04:32 PM
I've heard in China, legit copies are the exception rather than the rule. I've been getting emails in the past week from Warner Archive telling me to go to Comic-Con, but it's too far for me. Seems if Warner were there they'd have people looking out for bootlegs, though of course Warner Archive discs are essentially legalized bootlegs as they're on DVD-Rs. :)

Is Warner assigning you to go? That might mean they're paying for the trip!

My Other Self
07-22-14, 05:57 PM
...though of course Warner Archive discs are essentially legalized bootlegs as they're on DVD-Rs. :)There's no such thing as a "legal bootleg."

You just find any reason to complain, don't you? :lol:

Dogg
07-22-14, 06:55 PM
I just discovered this thread. Where have I been for the last two years?

[Note to self: check in again in July 2015 to see Alan Smithee once again confront the Nefarious Bootlegger at the State Fair.]

I've never actually been to a State Fair. They don't seem to have such things in New York City. Maybe I should fly out to this one next year, find the bootlegger and say to him, "So you're the bootlegger I've been reading so much about on the internet. They say that if I bring a printout of this entire thread, I'll get a free copy of SONG OF THE SOUTH with every two other DVDs I purchase." Think it'll work?

Alan, why don't you make this guy an offer? Have him sell off the bulk of your collection--on consignment--in exchange for stopping the calls to the MPAA. You'll kill two birds with one stone.

and they even have their own website: http://www.nysfair.org/

Texan26
07-22-14, 07:59 PM
There's no such thing as a "legal bootleg."


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dsa_shea
07-23-14, 07:47 AM
Give Jace a call and he will take care of it. The vendor will not likely want to continue after the confrontation.

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