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Alan Smithee
07-19-12, 02:57 AM
Went to the state fair today and looked through a couple buildings where people were selling random crap- most of it stuff like cosmetics or what have you. There was one guy whose sign said "Classic Movies" and he had several shelves full on DVDs out, and almost ALL of them were obviously copies- you could tell that the covers had been scanned and printed on a computer. Most of them weren't even rare, just titles that had been out for a while and still in print, and he was selling these for about the same price as the legitimate product. I opened one up and the disc inside was a printable DVD-R with the legitimate disc's label scanned and printed on it. The disc was probably a single-layer, meaning the content had been compressed to fit on it. He had a few other things like some out-of-print Paramount movies and some TV shows like Batman which have never had a legit DVD release. Up front he had a shelf full of Song of the South (priced at $39.99) with it playing on an LCD screen, it looked like it had been transferred from a VHS tape. The covers looked like scans of the UK VHS release with "NTSC Region 1" printed on the back cover. The guy was telling people they were imports from England, but of course if they were they'd be in PAL format and probably region 2- as far as I know it was released there on VHS but never on DVD.

Sure Disney deserves to have Song of the South bootlegged as long as they continue to keep it locked up, and so does Paramount for taking so many discs out of print, but I still couldn't believe the balls this guy had selling this stuff out in the open at an event like this. I could see him doing it at a flea market or something like that, but not a state fair. The fair has been going on since last Thursday so there he should have been busted by now, but nobody there seemed to notice. I couldn't help myself- I called the MPAA's piracy hotline (1-800-NO-COPYS) and ratted him out. Wonder if they'll actually do something, or if they'll just sit on their hands and continue to advocate internet snooping and crap like that. If anybody on here goes there, let me know if you see him.

adrenaline78
07-19-12, 09:30 AM
Did you tell the guy you liked his collection of bootlegs?

Lastdaysofrain
07-19-12, 12:35 PM
Some of these guys are sold brazen and bold with it that I wonder if they actually don't know they are bootlegs themselves.

TheBang
07-19-12, 06:32 PM
I'm sure they know. It's just like the people who sell counterfeit Gucci and Prada bags at things like this for $10.

Texan26
07-19-12, 06:49 PM
There's a local comic book shop that sells bootlegs like the ones you mentioned. I don't see how they get away with it out in the public like that.

My Other Self
07-19-12, 07:51 PM
You called the MPAA's piracy hotline over some guy selling some crap at the state fair? Seriously? :lol:

Nobody goes to the state fair anymore, attendance has plummeted. So as prestigious as you seem to think it is, it's not. Ever since they moved it back from August nobody goes and as a thread I created here a few years ago shows, nobody from other parts of the state treks to Sac just to go. It's a local fair with a bigger sounding name since we live in the capital.

I seriously doubt you put a dent in the guy's day, but good effort.

Lastdaysofrain
07-20-12, 07:09 AM
I was at a Comic Con in Boston close to 10 years ago and it got raided for bootlegs. It was kind of nuts. The show was bootleg free for the next six months or so until it slowly crept back in.

LJG765
07-22-12, 12:41 AM
You called the MPAA's piracy hotline over some guy selling some crap at the state fair? Seriously? :lol:

Nobody goes to the state fair anymore, attendance has plummeted. So as prestigious as you seem to think it is, it's not. Ever since they moved it back from August nobody goes and as a thread I created here a few years ago shows, nobody from other parts of the state treks to Sac just to go. It's a local fair with a bigger sounding name since we live in the capital.

I seriously doubt you put a dent in the guy's day, but good effort.

Um, maybe yours, but the MN State Fair is huge. Don't go if you're claustrophobic. And when I go to the WI state fair, it's pretty big too.

movieguru
07-22-12, 07:57 AM
They sell tons of bootlegs at the Comic cons all over the country. They're mostly out of print titles or titles that have never been released. But, they also have tv shows that are just being aired on tv and they have sets for them as well. I see mostly the same people sellers at these cons and nothing ever seems to happen to them.

Alan Smithee
07-22-12, 02:07 PM
And if studios keep putting out their own legitimate releases on DVD-R, it's going to be harder to tell what is a legitimate product and what isn't. If they're going to do that and not bust people like this selling copies out in the open, I don't want to hear them complaining about it anymore.

My Other Self
07-22-12, 03:59 PM
Um, maybe yours, but the MN State Fair is huge. Don't go if you're claustrophobic. And when I go to the WI state fair, it's pretty big too.This is California, significantly larger in population. Every part of the state has their own county/regional fairs throughout the year.

The state fair here is a glorified Sacramento County fair, nothing more. To call me out like I'm throwing all state fairs under the same umbrella is pretty stupid since I was obviously talking to Smithee about what we have here.

SterlingBen
07-22-12, 06:11 PM
where people were selling random crap- most of it stuff like cosmetics or what have you.

They steal that stuff from CVS, Walgreens, Walmart, ect and then sell it for cash at venues like this (or they buy from the thieves to flip at places like this).

Never buy this kind of stuff.

Alan Smithee
07-15-13, 11:39 PM
Get this- I was there yesterday to see Weird Al and we went through some of the crappy buildings beforehand, and this SAME guy was there again, in the SAME place selling the SAME copied DVDs with some new ones added! I give up- I basically led the MPAA's anti-piracy effort to this guy last year, and they obviously did NOTHING. I think that proves that all the warnings they make us watch at the beginning of discs are scare tactics, and nothing more.

The Man with the Golden Doujinshi
07-16-13, 09:47 AM
Alan Smithee, doing his part to try and put mom and pop stores out of business.

Weird Al is up at my fair today.

My Other Self
07-16-13, 06:08 PM
Get this- I was there yesterday to see Weird Al and we went through some of the crappy buildings beforehand, and this SAME guy was there again, in the SAME place selling the SAME copied DVDs with some new ones added! I give up- I basically led the MPAA's anti-piracy effort to this guy last year, and they obviously did NOTHING. I think that proves that all the warnings they make us watch at the beginning of discs are scare tactics, and nothing more.I have such a difficult time believing half of your posts. I can rarely tell if you're serious or just being overly dramatic for effect.

Alan Smithee
07-17-13, 02:32 AM
Well, in this case it's only fair given how overly dramatic most of the copyright warnings and such have been. They can keep saying "The FBI is watching you and will do terrible things to you if you even THINK about copying this movie!" but when someone does it SO out in the open like this and gets away with it, even after they've been reported to a so-called "hotline" set up specifically to stop this very thing, it just proves that such "anti-piracy efforts" are all talk and no action.

dan30oly
07-17-13, 09:47 AM
pics or it didn't happen

The Man with the Golden Doujinshi
07-17-13, 12:34 PM
but when someone does it SO out in the open like this and gets away with it, even after they've been reported to a so-called "hotline" set up specifically to stop this very thing, it just proves that such "anti-piracy efforts" are all talk and no action.

Except there are actually tons of arrests but they don't have field offices across the country setup where a special team of agents, always on call, slide down a pole into their crime fighting unit, flying through the streets with their sirens blazing, shooting everyone in their way to get a guy at a fair.

Cardsfan111
07-17-13, 01:10 PM
I think you should create a bogus MPAA ID and bust him yourself.

Nate Boss
07-17-13, 01:47 PM
why not just stand in front of his stand and call out "BOOTLEGS! WHO WANTS BOOTLEGS!??!" and draw attention to the twat?

PhantomStranger
07-17-13, 02:18 PM
Well, in this case it's only fair given how overly dramatic most of the copyright warnings and such have been. They can keep saying "The FBI is watching you and will do terrible things to you if you even THINK about copying this movie!" but when someone does it SO out in the open like this and gets away with it, even after they've been reported to a so-called "hotline" set up specifically to stop this very thing, it just proves that such "anti-piracy efforts" are all talk and no action.
The anti-piracy efforts, even the occasional arrests, are largely a PR attempt to remind consumers it is illegal. I thought everyone understood that Hollywood doesn't have the means to entirely eliminate piracy and the over-the-top warnings on DVDs are meant to scare the 25% of the population that actually respond to empty threats.

Ropes Pierre
07-21-13, 12:32 PM
I think it would have been cool if you and three friends had kicked over his table, and someone with a Scottish accent said "THAT's the Chicago way!"

jjcool
07-21-13, 01:40 PM
Except there are actually tons of arrests but they don't have field offices across the country setup where a special team of agents, always on call, slide down a pole into their crime fighting unit, flying through the streets with their sirens blazing, shooting everyone in their way to get a guy at a fair.

So no field office within a years drive of Sacramento?
I find that hard to believe.

DaveWadding
07-21-13, 03:46 PM
You wouldn't steal a car...

E_v_i_l
07-21-13, 10:37 PM
You wouldn't steal a handbag...

ddrknghtrtns
07-29-13, 05:22 AM
I think the MPAA is more concerned about the pirating of new theatrical and just released on blu-ray and DVD movies and features.

fumanstan
07-31-13, 04:27 PM
This is California, significantly larger in population. Every part of the state has their own county/regional fairs throughout the year.

The state fair here is a glorified Sacramento County fair, nothing more. To call me out like I'm throwing all state fairs under the same umbrella is pretty stupid since I was obviously talking to Smithee about what we have here.

Having been to the State Fair as well, I agree. I thought the county ones, particularly the OC Fair that I go to every year, was far better. My girlfriend and I had thought the State Fair would be better based on name, but I guess not :(

mhg83
07-31-13, 09:22 PM
You wouldn't steal a car...

http://obsoletegamer.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/You-Wouldnt-Download-A-Car.jpg

JeffTheAlpaca
08-01-13, 05:04 PM
Who cares and don't buy them!

I bet if DVDs were a lot cheaper more people would probably buy them.

Gizmo
08-02-13, 09:21 AM
If this is the way for me to get Pete and Pete Season 3, SHOW ME THE BOOTLEGS!

Numanoid
08-21-13, 03:39 AM
^ That's not hard to find.

Flicker
10-08-13, 08:15 PM
Several years ago there was a vendor selling "Song Of The South" and the old "Amos 'N Andy" series on DVDs at a seafood festival in lower Alabama. I haven't seen him (or others) since however I did not go last year. Wish now I had bought the "Amos 'N Andy" sets.

PhantomStranger
10-08-13, 08:38 PM
Several years ago there was a vendor selling "Song Of The South" and the old "Amos 'N Andy" series on DVDs at a seafood festival in lower Alabama. I haven't seen him (or others) since however I did not go last year. Wish now I had bought the "Amos 'N Andy" sets.
There are still bootleg DVD sellers on the Net, offering pretty much every show that will never see an official release. It's not hard finding them if you know the right keywords on Google.

Alan Smithee
10-09-13, 12:20 AM
Might have been the same guy I saw, though what made me try to turn him in was a lot of his stuff was copies of legitimate DVDs with scanned covers. Again, I'm convinced that all the threats against copying which have been on video media since its inception are empty- though if I tried doing it myself, I'd probably be in jail by the end of the day. :)

SterlingBen
10-09-13, 01:01 AM
I just saw the guy you mention at the Tulsa State Fair. Saw a man interested in SOTS then he saw the price, laughed and walked away.

Wish we got Weird Al out here but no cigar.

Abob Teff
10-09-13, 10:50 PM
I think it would have been cool if you and three friends had kicked over his table, and someone with a Scottish accent said "THAT's the Chicago way!"

You wanna know how to get this jabrone? They pull a VHS, you pull a DVD. He sends one of yours to the video store, you send one of his to the Redbox. *That's* the *Chicago* way!

Alan Smithee
10-10-13, 01:08 AM
Wish we got Weird Al out here but no cigar.

But he filmed "UHF" in Tulsa! (However that was not one of the bootlegged movies sold by this guy.)

EddieMoney
10-10-13, 11:12 AM
Nobody buys DVDs anymore. This seller is an idiot.