yoshimi

Nolan has set the bar for stupidity with the ferry boat outcome in TDK. The Dent thing seems really dumb so I am excited to see if he can outdo himself on Friday.

Paul_SD

good attitude to go in with.

Hokeyboy

"Hated the last movie. Cant wait to pay to see the next one so I can hate it even more!"

Ladies and gents: True Fanboyism. QED.

Paul_SD

Buh..buh...but I've got movie cash that came along with my copy of Sucker Punch!

JumpCutz

So people aren't allowed to dislike this movie? Lest they be labeled a true fanboy?

Movie cash aside.

Dragon Tattoo

In the end no one really gives a shit. This movie is too big for people like you three to ruin.

27 hours to go.

The Antipodean

I just saw it and am still processing it -- it leaves a very good impression but there are a few things I'm still working through -- say this for Nolan, his movies do provide a lot to chew on. I loved "Avengers" but that was like a fast food meal and this is more of a fine-dining experience, not to get all artsy-fartsy.

I will say I l*loved* Joseph Gordon-Levitt who just gets better and better and Anne Hathaway was amazing too.

However...

Supermallet

I still think I enjoyed The Avengers more. Whedon knocked that one so far out of the park, it's hard for even this to top it.

PatD

That was the thematic linchpin of the entire movie.

"This city just showed you that it's full of people ready to believe in good."

Hokeyboy

Not even close to what I was implying. Anyone can dislike whatever they want. But if you walk into anything, having hated the previous iteration and drooling with impish anticipation of hating the next, you're the typical Internet fanboy. Bitter, close-minded, more than a little desperate, and quite frankly a bit odious what with the pequerino toenail cheese aroma.

Paul_SD

putting my particular aromas aside, what would you call the legion of posters who reduce every (reasoned and reasonable) criticism to a binary encapsulation?

I go to the same place everyday at work for a Greek salad. Everytime I pick the olives out of the salad and then eat the salad and throw away the olives. Does that mean I hate the salad? Does that mean I hate olives (all olives?) Does that mean I always hate olives on my salads?
Only in fanboy logic can you draw any of those conclusions and use them as a certain truth to hit someone over the head with.
I have said repeatedly when discussing Nolan, that I love some of the flourishes he done with these characters. I think Bale is an ideal Wayne and the supporting casts have been stellar.
There are also aspects to the films I've thought were absolutely lame, foolish, contradictory, and laughable. Unfortunately that includes a lot of what other respected critics seem to find profound and transcendent about these movies.

The impression that these films (which get lavished with words like 'brilliant' and 'deep' and 'heavy' in one mass media review after the other) seem to inspire such a reductive outlook amongst their most rabid fans, makes for such an amusing contradiction when their conceptualization and contextualization of criticism is usually stupid, shallow, and weightless.

But don't take my word for it- read the comments on Rotten Tomatoes
oh wait...

Dragon Tattoo

If Warner were smart, they'd abandon the Batman reboots for awhile after this movie and make a Batman Beyond movie. Any Batman after this iteration is doomed to, well, maybe not outright failure, but at the very least endless comparison to the Nolan films.

candyrocket786

I am down for a Batman Beyond film.

Troy Stiffler

I'd rather not see Batman for awhile. Plenty of other projects out there. Whether or not people like The Amazing Spiderman, most will agree that it was unnecessary and I think people will be worn out by it.

Paul_SD

I feel the same way. Unfortunately going by how they approach their animated direct to video program, we'll likely get a new Batman before many other equally worthy properties are explored.

I could see a Spectre movie having a lot of creative potential to offer an up and coming Del Toro type director- as well as a lot of BO potential, especially if released in the fall.
But since he doesn't have much connection to the JLA , I doubt we'll get it before a new Batman (probably only 5 or 6 years away).

That's just one example of dozens of characters DC could exploit but won't.
If they are loathe to invest the meager amounts in the direct to video, how could they ever be expected to lavish hundreds of millions on live action material?

But then again we apparently have Lobo coming (sigh).

Dragon Tattoo

Well, yes, but that's clearly not even an option, since Warner has already said that they're looking into future Batman projects now. Even if there are "plenty of other" projects, none of them will do as well as Batman (just look at Green Lantern and the last Superman movie), which has been Warner's top Superhero money maker for like the past 20 years. It's the only hero property they have that is guaranteed to make them money.

So, among future options that are in any way feasible, I'd rather they do Batman Beyond than yet another iteration of the original Batman.

Also not really Warner's fault, since their Batman animated films greatly outsell any other DC property they have. Even a shitty project like Gotham Knights outsold the Wonder Woman and Green Lantern projects they did.

There's a reason there are like 15 Batman-family comics among the new 52.

Superboy

Yeah, Batman Beyond sounds great:

Bruce: "Pete- I mean, Terry, you've got to learn some responsibility! you're Batman now, and you've got to accept the burden that comes with it!"

Terry: "I want a life of my own! I'm tired of not getting what I want, even though I was a completely lost, directionless, apathetic teenager with no ambition and drive to complete anything on my own! I'm Batman - no more!"

Bruce: "That reminds me of a really old story about my complex relationship with a villain that I never bothered to fully resolve and warn you about the impending dangers of because I wanted to retain some premise of dramatic tension even though its put you, the people you love, and the entire city in danger again and again"

(host of supporting characters): "we are completely flat, undeveloped, totally incompetent, and escalate every single dangerous situation by ten fold by our inability to display any amount of common sense"

Bruce: "Terry, being Batman is too dangerous! you've got to stop this!"

Terry: "but you just said - "

Dragon Tattoo

It does. But as you've so succinctly proven, it needs someone who is actually a competent writer and not someone who takes the most basic tropes from the series and twists them to their own agenda.

Just like any story.

gmanca

I would like to see Keaton come back to do The Dark Knight Returns.

Superboy

Oh come on, it was a joke.

BTW have you seen concept fan art for a Batman Beyond movie? it looks really good.

FRwL

I'm on board for that. He still looks great in The Other Guys as the Police commissioner.

Supermallet

Don't go chasing waterfalls.

gmanca

Was that accidental or are you trying to quote TLC?

Supermallet

Quote who now?

Dragon Tattoo

Yeah, it does. However, apparently Nolan is apparently king daddy boss of comic movies over at Warner now, though, so I'm wondering just how feasible a Batman Beyond project would be.

He'll apparently be grandfathering/producing/overseeing whatever new Batman projects Warner undertakes, even if he won't be directing them, just like he's doing with the new Superman films. Plus, they do obviously want a Batman more in line with the comics so they can do a Justice League movie, so they probably will just end up rebooting the main series again.