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OldBoy
07-03-12, 10:19 PM
Watching it now and very curious. It is almost like soft core porn.

Thoughts, Comments, Reactions?

Groucho
07-03-12, 10:20 PM
Different times, different standards. :shrug:

d2cheer
07-03-12, 10:23 PM
Yup look up a movie called Coach...sometime. -wink- PG also

Solid Snake
07-03-12, 10:57 PM
What Groucho said. Barbarella is nothing w/ the rating. Poltergeist is a movie that's a bigger deal. Spielberg made a hell of a horror film.

dhmac
07-03-12, 11:00 PM
Barbarella was released before the PG rating was even created.

So I would guess that whatever year after that when it was rated with the later standard and got that PG rating, it must have seemed tame compared to the then new stuff coming out.

PhantomStranger
07-03-12, 11:06 PM
Up until the late 80s, the ratings board was wildly inconsistent in how they treated various subject matters. After the PG-13 rating was created, things changed.

Abob Teff
07-04-12, 12:04 AM
Planet of the Apes is G ... despite hells and damns and Charlton Heston's bare ass.

When I worked for Hollywood Video we had standards for what we could play in the store ... those standards were based on ratings. To make a point (mockery) of how flawed that system is, we would routinely search for those movies that make you wonder "how the hell is this rated G/PG?!"

One day I had an employee pop in "It" (Stephen King's). I shrugged ... "eh, it ran on TV. Fits our guidelines."

I wish I could remember some of the other ones we would pop in ... my boss always had a cow and there was nothing she could do about it.

dom56
07-04-12, 12:12 AM
Jenny Agutter show her boobs in Logan's Run. It's only for a brief moment but my god she wore the skimpiest outfit I ever saw in cinema. Yeah, it was also PG rating.

TheMovieman
07-04-12, 12:14 AM
Airplane was also rated PG and there was sexual content (primarily innuendo) throughout.

Abob Teff
07-04-12, 12:14 AM
Up until the late 80s, the ratings board was wildly inconsistent in how they treated various subject matters. After the PG-13 rating was created, things changed.

What changed?! PG-13 muddied the waters even more!

My favorite example is Titanic and Small Soldiers. Both were released the same week, both were rated PG-13. Small Soldiers received the rating because of cartoon violence and a scene where a kid is shot in the leg with a corn-on-the-cob holder. Titanic received the rating for language, full frontal nudity, violence, dead bodies floating in the water ... yeah, those are comparable.

This may be a little over the top, but I pulled it from one of those parent-advocate websites (and I had to laugh -- the ads at the top were for a cocktail mix and for suntan lotion with a very curvy model silhouetted) ...

Pushing the limits of the PG-13 rating, Titanic includes multiple views of a woman’s naked breasts (as she poses for an artist), a sexual encounter between an unmarried teen couple (some activity shown), a sexual expletive along with other mild and moderate profanities, and glamorization of gambling, drinking and smoking. As well, suicide is contemplated and violent threats against life are made. The peril and trauma of the passengers on board the fated ship may also be disturbing to some viewers.

Abob Teff
07-04-12, 12:25 AM
Jenny Agutter show her boobs in Logan's Run. It's only for a brief moment but my god she wore the skimpiest outfit I ever saw in cinema. Yeah, it was also PG rating.

That was one!

Mr. Salty
07-04-12, 12:34 AM
In the other direction, "Midnight Cowboy" was rated X on its first release.

Boba Fett
07-04-12, 02:15 AM
"All the Presidents Men" is PG and has very much R-rated language.

Mondo Kane
07-04-12, 03:05 AM
Planet of the Apes is G ... despite hells and damns and Charlton Heston's bare ass.


^That nudity (Including the skinny-dipping trio) was even able to slide on a Disney-channel showing back in the mid-90's.
Regarding Apes ratings, my favorite still belongs to the trailer for Beneath The Planet of the Apes:
It ends with James Franciscus getting shot in the face and has the narrator concluding the trailer with "RATED G!!!"

Can't find that certain trailer on youtube, but it can be seen on "Behind The Planet of the Apes".

My Other Self
07-04-12, 03:08 AM
The original Clash of the Titans was PG and that showed us some lovely early 80s titties.

Beetlejuice has the f-bomb in it, with him grabbing his balls. That's also PG.

A better time to be alive.

rw2516
07-04-12, 05:49 AM
Barbarella was released before the PG rating was even created.

So I would guess that whatever year after that when it was rated with the later standard and got that PG rating, it must have seemed tame compared to the then new stuff coming out.

The film pre-dates ratings altogether. Originally intended for general audiences like any other film from the time.

Perkinsun Dzees
07-04-12, 07:23 AM
Beastmaster!

SuckaMC
07-04-12, 07:28 AM
The Omega Man is very violent, also: boobies. PG.

CharlieK
07-04-12, 07:30 AM
Jaws - full-frontal swimming nudity, and a bunch of severed heads and limbs and stuff.

Ash Ketchum
07-04-12, 07:47 AM
I saw BARBARELLA when it came out. It was released in the U.S. just weeks (or days) before the ratings system became official. The tag on the ads read "Suggested for Mature Audiences," which predated the "M" or "Mature" rating, which later became GP and then PG.

Thank you for asking. ;)

majorjoe23
07-04-12, 08:22 AM
What changed?! PG-13 muddied the waters even more!

My favorite example is Titanic and Small Soldiers. Both were released the same week, both were rated PG-13. Small Soldiers received the rating because of cartoon violence and a scene where a kid is shot in the leg with a corn-on-the-cob holder. Titanic received the rating for language, full frontal nudity, violence, dead bodies floating in the water ... yeah, those are comparable.
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Boobs alone don't qualify as full frontal nudity. But they were still surprising for PG-13.

Pizza
07-04-12, 09:18 AM
It was originally rated "M" for mature audiences. Ratings back when it came out was G, M, R, X. The ratings system was in its early stages. Theaters complained that the "M" rating sounded too harsh (and was originally meant to). To appease the theaters they came up with GP. Then families complained that GP sounded too soft (generally thought to mean General Public instead of parental guidance suggested), so it was switched to PG.

I still remember being in the car as my parents took me to the drive in to see it. I was a small kid but wanted to see all sci-fi. The movie started while we were in a long line of cars to get in. My mom looks at the screen and sees miss Fonda floating around in space taking off her clothes and says to my dad, "what kind of movie is this?" I'll never forget that moment.

TomOpus
07-04-12, 09:31 AM
Boobs alone don't qualify as full frontal nudity. But they were still surprising for PG-13. At the start of the portrait scene, Kate is standing at the doorway wearing a see-through gown. Look close and you can see kate bush.

inri222
07-04-12, 09:50 AM
Jenny Agutter show her boobs in Logan's Run. It's only for a brief moment but my god she wore the skimpiest outfit I ever saw in cinema. Yeah, it was also PG rating.

That's nothing compared to Walkabout. A completely naked Agutter in a PG rated film. The reason behind the PG is the context of the nudity in relation to nature.

dhmac
07-04-12, 09:54 AM
The film pre-dates ratings altogether. Originally intended for general audiences like any other film from the time.
Yeah, but the fact that it has a PG rating means it was eventually submitted to the ratings board some years after its theatrical release. A film that has not been submitted to the board is called "Unrated" because it's illegal to just slap a PG on a film without the board being involved (the MPAA trademarked all of its ratings with the exception of the X rating).

So my question is: what year was Barbarella submitted to the ratings board? If it was in the late '70s to early '80s, the board was getting a lot more permissive on what constituted an R vs. PG by then, so I would guess it was in those years before the addition of the PG-13 rating in 1984 (that permissiveness is basically what lead to the creation of that new rating in between).

Pizza
07-04-12, 10:17 AM
The film didn't predate the ratings. It was rated an M.

dhmac
07-04-12, 10:43 AM
The film didn't predate the ratings. It was rated an M.
The release of Barbarella predated the M rating by a few weeks (the film was released in Oct 1968, the M rating started in Nov 1968).

And IMDB.com has this entry ( http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0062711/alternateversions ) about it:

'Barbarella was released in the USA before the MPAA introduced the motion picture rating system on November 1, 1968. It was consequently released with a tag "Suggested For Mature Audiences". A re-release in 1977 (to cash in on the success of Star Wars (1977)) was edited to obtain a "PG" rating and was called "Barbarella: Queen Of The Galaxy". The video version is of the original uncut version and not the "PG" version (despite the subtitle "Queen of the Galaxy" and the "PG" rating on the cover).'

MrSmearkase
07-04-12, 11:08 AM
At the start of the portrait scene, Kate is standing at the doorway wearing a see-through gown. Look close and you can see kate bush.

http://greenobles.com/data_images/kate-bush/kate-bush-05.jpg

Pizza
07-04-12, 11:36 AM
The release of Barbarella predated the M rating by a few weeks (the film was released in Oct 1968, the M rating started in Nov 1968).

And IMDB.com has this entry ( http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0062711/alternateversions ) about it:
I saw the movie ad in the local newspaper at the time the film rolled into our city. I recall it having an "M" rating on it and as a kid who wanted to see the very sexy Jane Fonda in a sci-fi movie I made sure to not mention the rating to my parents because it would have been a deal breaker. Seems pretty clear in my mind and is one of those memories I think back on often with a laugh. I remember the M but I suppose it may just have stated "for mature audiences only" but I recall worrying about the M.

Rypro 525
07-04-12, 12:38 PM
There's also full frontal nudity in Kramer vs Kramer. When Hoffman's son accidently see's Hoffman's lady friend naked, she tries covering up but you can see nipple and a bit of 70's bush. Rated PG

Solid Snake
07-04-12, 12:48 PM
Good ole 70's bush. The good stuff.

TimeandTide
07-04-12, 02:00 PM
The PG-rated '67 version of Romeo and Juliet has a scene of a topless Juliet (a well-endowed Olivia Hussey), and a lingering shot of Romeo's bare ass.

In comparison, Baz Luhrmann's R+J w/DiCaprio which has zero nudity or profanity and only mild violence is PG-13.

rw2516
07-04-12, 02:50 PM
I saw the movie ad in the local newspaper at the time the film rolled into our city. I recall it having an "M" rating on it and as a kid who wanted to see the very sexy Jane Fonda in a sci-fi movie I made sure to not mention the rating to my parents because it would have been a deal breaker. Seems pretty clear in my mind and is one of those memories I think back on often with a laugh. I remember the M but I suppose it may just have stated "for mature audiences only" but I recall worrying about the M.

In our town theaters would put their own rating on some movies. Local theaters ramped both Dracula Has Risen From The Grave and Matt Helm-The Wrecking Crew to R in the newspaper ads.

BuddyRevell
07-04-12, 03:38 PM
Beastmaster!

:drool:

LiquidSky
07-04-12, 03:39 PM
Barbarella is one of my all-time favorites. I have the original one sheet and the rating is "suggested for mature audiences".

Those dolls are fucking creepy! :)

Michael Corvin
07-04-12, 03:45 PM
In comparison, Baz Luhrmann's R+J w/DiCaprio which has zero nudity or profanity and only mild violence is PG-13.

I haven't seen it but in the end two teens commit suicide, right? There's your PG-13. That's not needed for the under 13 set.

Alan Smithee
07-05-12, 03:43 AM
And there was no PG-13 rating in 1968. There's a few R-rated movies before 1984 that would probably have been PG-13 had that rating existed earlier.

DRG
07-05-12, 09:20 AM
I'd love to see a study of how the MPAA's attitude toward certain things changes over the years. I remember at some point in the mid-80s they began really cracking down on horror-movie gore (Fangoria frequently had articles on the subject at the time) to the point where something like Friday the 13th Part VII had to have its death scenes cut down to almost nothing to get an R, where just a few years earlier they had been getting away with a lot more. But at some point in the 2000s this changed with all the movies like Saw and Hostel showing some fairly gruesome stuff for an R-rating.

Dr. DVD
07-05-12, 09:20 AM
I'm kind of curious as to what happened between the early days of the rating and now. As others have mentioned, I remember Beastmaster and Airplane having nudity and getting PGs. I remember watching Clash of the Titans a LOT when I was a kid and not really thinking much when I saw Andromeda's (rather large) back side (pre-puberty, obviously). Then with PG-13 you still saw some bare breasts in movies, now it seems any nudity whatsoever (especially female) automatically lands you an R. What kind of reverse standard ratings system do we have?

Pizza
07-05-12, 09:33 AM
Barbarella is one of my all-time favorites. I have the original one sheet and the rating is "suggested for mature audiences".

Those dolls are fucking creepy! :)

That must be what I saw and read then. They added that tag later to m-rated movies at some point. I may look up some old local papers on micro-film to settle it in my mind and memory. I remember my mom double checking the rating in the paper the next day and exclaiming it was for mature audiences.

In our town theaters would put their own rating on some movies. Local theaters ramped both Dracula Has Risen From The Grave and Matt Helm-The Wrecking Crew to R in the newspaper ads.

It was sort of a free for all back then. Remember double X and XXX? They didn't copyright the X rating because they figured no one wanted that stamp. Boy, were they wrong!

Ash Ketchum
07-05-12, 09:47 AM
I'm kind of curious as to what happened between the early days of the rating and now. As others have mentioned, I remember Beastmaster and Airplane having nudity and getting PGs. I remember watching Clash of the Titans a LOT when I was a kid and not really thinking much when I saw Andromeda's (rather large) back side (pre-puberty, obviously). Then with PG-13 you still saw some bare breasts in movies, now it seems any nudity whatsoever (especially female) automatically lands you an R. What kind of reverse standard ratings system do we have?

Baby-boomer parents, in the over-protective zeal with which they regard their hellspawn, have become bigger fascists than their parents were! :D

PhantomStranger
07-05-12, 02:01 PM
Baby-boomer parents, in the over-protective zeal with which they regard their hellspawn, have become bigger fascists than their parents were! :D
There is more truth in your statement than I think you intended. As both mothers and fathers had to work away from the home, American society became increasingly obsessed with controlling every aspect of children's lives and sheltering them from the world. It's not a coincidence that it arose as females entered the workforce.

LiquidSky
07-05-12, 08:03 PM
I believe Maryland rated the movies different as well. John Waters always had fights with Mary Avara. :lol:

davidh777
07-05-12, 08:15 PM
I'm kind of curious as to what happened between the early days of the rating and now. As others have mentioned, I remember Beastmaster and Airplane having nudity and getting PGs. I remember watching Clash of the Titans a LOT when I was a kid and not really thinking much when I saw Andromeda's (rather large) back side (pre-puberty, obviously). Then with PG-13 you still saw some bare breasts in movies, now it seems any nudity whatsoever (especially female) automatically lands you an R. What kind of reverse standard ratings system do we have?

Wasn't it Nicholson who said lopping off a head is PG and lopping off a tit gets you an R?

Rypro 525
07-06-12, 12:17 AM
I think the last PG-13 movie to have visible female nudity was The Divine Bell and the Butterfly from 2008?

Dr. DVD
07-06-12, 08:48 AM
^ I was going to say Across the Universe but that was 2007. Evan Rachel Wood showed one booby, so I guess both gets you that R nowadays.

Ash Ketchum
07-06-12, 09:23 AM
Wasn't it Nicholson who said lopping off a head is PG and lopping off a tit gets you an R?

No, he said fondling a breast gets you an R, while chopping it off gets you a PG, the point being that the MPAA thinks that violence is safe for a young audience, but lovemaking isn't. He said this some decades ago.

Shoveler
07-06-12, 12:18 PM
There's also full frontal nudity in Kramer vs Kramer. When Hoffman's son accidently see's <s>Hoffman's lady friend</s> JoBeth Williams naked, she tries covering up but you can see nipple and a bit of 70's bush. Rated PG

Numanoid
07-06-12, 02:37 PM
I'm kind of curious as to what happened between the early days of the rating and now. The Reagan era, and the rise of the Christian Right.

Mabuse
07-06-12, 02:41 PM
The Reagan era, and the rise of the Christian Right.

:lol: Yeah, Jack Valenti that hardcore Reagan-era conservative Christian.

Like it or not the MPAA and the ratings board are the best system in the world and revolutionized filmmaking in America. Is it a perfect system? No, but it's better than all the others.

People lament that the MPAA often dwells on sexual content and is more permissive about violence. They often point to Europe because they are less “scissor happy” with the sex and nudity. But have you ever read anything about the UK and Germany's censor boards? The UK doesn't just censor extreme violence they cut out head-butts from Disney films and censor horse-falls from 80 year old films. Germany cuts virtually every R rated American action film down to its PG-15 rating.

And making all of it worse is that it is government implemented censorship.

At least here in America it's a self governed industry group with the best interests of the free market and the studio’s profits in mind. Under it all the MPAA has a responsibility to maintain good report between one of America's biggest industries and its biggest audience (the American people). Despite its flaws people generally feel like they understand and can trust the MPAA (compared to the utterly failed TV ratings system). I don't always agree with their criteria and I'm aware of their hypocrisy, but it could be so much worse.

Just be proud of yourself that you are savvy enough to be onto their bullshit and overlook their sometimes arbitrary, sometimes biased decisions. It isn't always fair. But the alternative is that your tax dollars go to pay a governing censor board that decides arbitrarily what you can see and rather than working with the studios and filmmakers by making suggestions of cuts, they just take the final cut, chop out what they don't want you to see and release it without any formal statement that anything has been done.

WeylandYutani
07-06-12, 03:17 PM
lol, I love this Thread.

arminius
07-06-12, 04:41 PM
:lol: Yeah, Jack Valenti that hardcore Reagan-era conservative Christian.

Like it or not the MPAA and the ratings board are the best system in the world and revolutionized filmmaking in America. Is it a perfect system? No, but it's better than all the others.

People lament that the MPAA often dwells on sexual content and is more permissive about violence. They often point to Europe because they are less “scissor happy” with the sex and nudity. But have you ever read anything about the UK and Germany's censor boards? The UK doesn't just censor extreme violence they cut out head-butts from Disney films and censor horse-falls from 80 year old films. Germany cuts virtually every R rated American action film down to its PG-15 rating.

And making all of it worse is that it is government implemented censorship.

At least here in America it's a self governed industry group with the best interests of the free market and the studio’s profits in mind. Under it all the MPAA has a responsibility to maintain good report between one of America's biggest industries and its biggest audience (the American people). Despite its flaws people generally feel like they understand and can trust the MPAA (compared to the utterly failed TV ratings system). I don't always agree with their criteria and I'm aware of their hypocrisy, but it could be so much worse.

Just be proud of yourself that you are savvy enough to be onto their bullshit and overlook their sometimes arbitrary, sometimes biased decisions. It isn't always fair. But the alternative is that your tax dollars go to pay a governing censor board that decides arbitrarily what you can see and rather than working with the studios and filmmakers by making suggestions of cuts, they just take the final cut, chop out what they don't want you to see and release it without any formal statement that anything has been done.


It is bad over there. Really other than their greater tolerance for nudity, everything else is much sillier. They are closer to the intolerance of overly religious countries. I can see it getting to the point of having no offence to anyone will be tolerated type of system.

godzilla rules
07-06-12, 05:37 PM
What changed?! PG-13 muddied the waters even more!

My favorite example is Titanic and Small Soldiers. Both were released the same week, both were rated PG-13. Small Soldiers received the rating because of cartoon violence and a scene where a kid is shot in the leg with a corn-on-the-cob holder. Titanic received the rating for language, full frontal nudity, violence, dead bodies floating in the water ... yeah, those are comparable.

This may be a little over the top, but I pulled it from one of those parent-advocate websites (and I had to laugh -- the ads at the top were for a cocktail mix and for suntan lotion with a very curvy model silhouetted) ...

Pushing the limits of the PG-13 rating, Titanic includes multiple views of a woman’s naked breasts (as she poses for an artist), a sexual encounter between an unmarried teen couple (some activity shown), a sexual expletive along with other mild and moderate profanities, and glamorization of gambling, drinking and smoking. As well, suicide is contemplated and violent threats against life are made. The peril and trauma of the passengers on board the fated ship may also be disturbing to some viewers.

Small Soldiers was released in the summer of 1998, at least six months AFTER Titanic.

Giles
07-06-12, 05:52 PM
I thought the rape scene in 'Billy Jack' was pretty unpleasant in a PG rated film.

Rockmjd23
07-06-12, 06:43 PM
MPAA ratings are a joke and wildly inconsistent but as Mabuse said, we could simply have the government snip apart a movie instead like in many other countries. Don't want that.

Numanoid
07-06-12, 08:14 PM
:lol: Yeah, Jack Valenti that hardcore Reagan-era conservative Christian.Laugh it up, fuzzball. You really think that had nothing to do with it?

hasslein
07-06-12, 09:01 PM
I never thought Barbarella was that racey.

However, the Autopilot BJ in Airplane! was pushing it IMHO.

wishbone
07-06-12, 10:17 PM
Laugh it up, fuzzball. You really think that had nothing to do with it?Figments of our PG imagination? :confused:

Clash of the Titans (1981) Parental Guide (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0082186/parentalguide)
The Beastmaster (1982) Parental Guide (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0083630/parentalguide)
Sheena:&nbsp;&nbsp;Queen of the Jungle (1984) Parental Guide (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0088103/parentalguide)
Dragonslayer (1981) Parental Guide (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0082288/parentalguide)
Poltergeist (1982) Parental Guide (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0084516/parentalguide)
Sixteen Candles (1984) Parental Guide (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0088128/parentalguide)
Swamp Thing (1982) Parental Guide (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0084745/parentalguide)
Brainstorm (1983) Parental Guide (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0085271/parentalguide)
Looker (1981) Parental Guide (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0082677/parentalguide)
The Adventures of Baron Munchausen (1988) Parental Guide (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0096764/parentalguide)

I'm pretty sure this PG-13 movie occurred in the '80s too...

The Woman in Red (1984)There is a brief full frontal nudity shot of a woman when she gets out of bed. Her breasts are also shown.

Rockmjd23
07-06-12, 10:45 PM
I do believe Booberella got an X.

SkullOrchard
07-06-12, 11:07 PM
Sheena: Queen of the Jungle (1984) (PG)

This movie had almost as much nudity as Tarzan w/ Bo Derrik. I saw this during a Saturday afternoon matinee, and I remember mothers reacting in horror as their little ones were exposed to Tanya's titties and bare ass. They were tripping over each other in a mad dash for the EXIT. :lol:

Giles
07-06-12, 11:34 PM
Figments of our PG imagination? :confused:

Clash of the Titans (1981) Parental Guide (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0082186/parentalguide)
The Beastmaster (1982) Parental Guide (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0083630/parentalguide)
Sheena:&nbsp;&nbsp;Queen of the Jungle (1984) Parental Guide (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0088103/parentalguide)
Dragonslayer (1981) Parental Guide (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0082288/parentalguide)
Poltergeist (1982) Parental Guide (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0084516/parentalguide)
Sixteen Candles (1984) Parental Guide (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0088128/parentalguide)
Swamp Thing (1982) Parental Guide (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0084745/parentalguide)
Brainstorm (1983) Parental Guide (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0085271/parentalguide)
Looker (1981) Parental Guide (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0082677/parentalguide)
The Adventures of Baron Munchausen (1988) Parental Guide (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0096764/parentalguide)

I'm pretty sure this PG-13 movie occurred in the '80s too...

The Woman in Red (1984)

I remember Rosanna Arquette displayed her tatas in 'Desperately Seeking Susan' (PG-13)

dhmac
07-06-12, 11:43 PM
Sheena: Queen of the Jungle (1984) (PG)

This movie had almost as much nudity as Tarzan w/ Bo Derrik. I saw this during a Saturday afternoon matinee, and I remember mothers reacting in horror as their little ones were exposed to Tanya's titties and bare ass. They were tripping over each other in a mad dash for the EXIT. :lol:
Good one!

I remember when Sheena was showing up on HBO back in the '80s in the middle of the afternoon (which was a time of day when they didn't show R-rated films - those were only shown at night). Apparently, the film was shown "open-matted" on TV and some scenes that were cropped off in the theater weren't that way anymore. So in the bathing scene in a river or lake from the movie, Tanya Roberts was shown with complete full-frontal nudity. Yeah, she couldn't act, but - damn! - was she stacked! That is, by far, the best scene in the whole movie when it's shown open-matted. It's no wonder that HBO would play this PG-rated movie seemingly all the time in the middle of the afternoon.

Giles
07-06-12, 11:52 PM
Good one!

I remember when Sheena was showing up on HBO back in the '80s in the middle of the afternoon (which was a time of day when they didn't show R-rated films - those were only shown at night). Apparently, the film was shown "open-matted" on TV and some scenes that were cropped off in the theater weren't that way anymore. So in the bathing scene in a river or lake from the movie, Tanya Roberts was shown with complete full-frontal nudity. Yeah, she couldn't act, but - damn! - was she stacked! That is, by far, the best scene in the whole movie when it's shown open-matted. It's no wonder that HBO would play this PG-rated movie seemingly all the time in the middle of the afternoon.

wasn't that the case with Doc Hollywood with one of the actress' displaying more in the open matte version.

godzilla rules
07-07-12, 11:22 AM
wasn't that the case with Doc Hollywood with one of the actress' displaying more in the open matte version.

Actresses showing more in an open matte version has happened afew more times. The only titles I can remember right now are The Break Up and Terminator 3.

crazyronin
07-07-12, 04:15 PM
The Reagan era, and the rise of the Christian Right.


Ah, if we could only go back to the good old days of the Hays Code.

Jon2
07-07-12, 04:43 PM
Jenny Agutter show her boobs in Logan's Run. It's only for a brief moment but my god she wore the skimpiest outfit I ever saw in cinema. Yeah, it was also PG rating.

She showed more than her boobs. :D

whotony
07-08-12, 05:43 PM
I never got what all the hubbub was about with Barbarella.

It's a pretty terrible movie, extremely dated, not funny, horrible acting. It's not even fun in the way Flash Gordon is.

Was there more nudity than the little bit in the very opening when she is floating around while getting changed?

It's free on Amazon Prime now.

Astrofan
07-09-12, 12:12 AM
I never got what all the hubbub was about with Barbarella.

It's a pretty terrible movie, extremely dated, not funny, horrible acting. It's not even fun in the way Flash Gordon is.

Actually, it was pretty dated when it came out. I saw it at that time and could barely stand it.

Mabuse
07-09-12, 12:27 PM
It's funny that the other major Dino Delaurentis film from 1968, Danger Diabolik, is way better made, way more fun, way more sexy, has better effects, better music, everything. Yet Barbarella is famous around the world and no one has seen Diabolik.

dhmac
07-09-12, 09:53 PM
It's funny that the other major Dino Delaurentis film from 1968, Danger Diabolik, is way better made, way more fun, way more sexy, has better effects, better music, everything. Yet Barbarella is famous around the world and no one has seen Diabolik.
True.

I only found out about Danger: Diabolik because it was on MST3K (where it is considered by a lot of MST fans to be one of the better quality movies to be on the show). I even bought the DVD of it (the movie itself without the MST3K treatment, that is) because it is such a fun movie to watch.

And then there's Barbarella, which is mostly a dull dud. It doesn't say much for a movie when the uncut opening credits are the highlight of the entire film.

Rocketdog2000
07-09-12, 10:00 PM
Different times, different standards. :shrug:

Exactly. Hell, the 4 of the 5 original Planet of the Apes films are all rated G - and there's brief nudity (in the first one) and a TON of violence in those. They'd get at least a PG-13 or R these days.

KobraKai
05-28-13, 02:24 PM
So Barbarella is now on Netflix and shows as being rated R. Was the rating recently revised? Not a big deal, just an observation.

EddieMoney
05-28-13, 02:36 PM
I seem to remember Peter Grant using the words "fuck" and "****" a lot in the PG-rated The Song Remains the Same.

inri222
05-28-13, 02:40 PM
So Barbarella is now on Netflix and shows as being rated R. Was the rating recently revised? Not a big deal, just an observation.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0062711/alternateversions?ref_=tt_ql_trv_5

Barbarella was released in the USA before the MPAA introduced the motion picture rating system on November 1, 1968. It was consequently released with a tag "Suggested For Mature Audiences". A re-release in 1977 (to cash in on the success of Star Wars: Episode IV - A New Hope) was edited to obtain a "PG" rating and was called "Barbarella: Queen Of The Galaxy". The video version is of the original uncut version and not the "PG" version (despite the subtitle "Queen of the Galaxy" and the "PG" rating on the cover).
The version now on video in Australia is of the Laser Disc version which has a more "nude" opening credit scene. The difference in the credits occurs when 'David Hemmings' credit appears, from then on the floating titles reveal more of Jane Fonda than the original version and video did.
The original European version had all the nudity intact on its first release.

RichC2
05-28-13, 02:48 PM
So Barbarella is now on Netflix and shows as being rated R. Was the rating recently revised? Not a big deal, just an observation.

No. Barbarella was originally rated M (Mature), then rated R when R became a thing, then edited to PG (Barbarella Queen of the Galaxy) to cash in on Star Wars hype. The original version was and still is rated R.

mrhan
05-28-13, 02:59 PM
No, he said fondling a breast gets you an R, while chopping it off gets you a PG, the point being that the MPAA thinks that violence is safe for a young audience, but lovemaking isn't. He said this some decades ago.

Funny how it's the total opposite in the UK. Violence was always cut out. Friends of mine there always mentioning how they never saw the nunchuck scenes in Bruce Lee movies in the 70's.

Why So Blu?
05-28-13, 03:03 PM
The Blu-ray is pretty stellar.