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jfoobar
06-22-12, 06:52 PM
Might as well start a thread about campaign ads as I am sure we'll have a few more doozies before November.

Here's one from Joe the Plumber:

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And here's the punchline. He denies he was talking about the Holocaust (http://www.toledoblade.com/Politics/2012/06/21/Wurzelbacher-Story-of-campaign-ad-unfairly-spun.html) when he mentioned the six million Jews exterminated between 1938 to 1945.


Samuel "Joe the Plumber" Wurzelbacher is not backing down from an anti-gun-control video released by his campaign this week, but the Republican congressional candidate deepened the controversy Wednesday by saying he "wasn't talking about the Holocaust" when the video mentions 6 million Jews exterminated between 1938 to 1945.

Instead, he blamed the media for unfairly spinning the story.

"All I said was gun control was implemented, and then governments proceeded to violate human rights," Mr. Wurzelbacher said. "Nowhere did I mention the Holocaust or was I even talking about it."


Also, Joe can hit apples with a shotgun from 50 feet away. Wow, impressive. -ohbfrank- Even with a full choke, that's a joke of a shot.

DeputyDave
06-22-12, 07:02 PM
Good ad. Effective.

You forgot part of the article:


"The argument is that gun control created the environment in which it was considerably easier for Nazis and other tyrannical governments to engage in human rights abuses, so I believe the point of the video was to highlight a number of human rights abuses that were facilitated by gun control," he said. "Joe did not say the Holocaust was caused by gun control."

Ghostbuster
06-22-12, 10:49 PM
At least a couple Romney ads contain misrepresentations or outright lies, and the Romney campaign hasn't removed them from Youtube.

Romney's "Not Even Half" ad (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQUyS9H6ioI&feature=plcp) states that the inspector general concluded the Obama administration engaged in nepotism when it handed out government contracts. HOWEVER, the inspector general NEVER said that "friends and family" received preferential treatment.

And in Romney's "Believe in America" ad (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H3a7FC0Jkv8&feature=plcp), an Obama quote is taken completely out of context. The Romney campaign trimmed a video clip to give the appearance that Obama was expressing anxiety about the economy's impact on his chances of winning the 2012 election. BUT IN FACT, Obama was quoting the McCain campaign prior to the 2008 election.

Obama in Romney ad: If we keep talking about the economy, we're going to lose.

Obama in actual speech: Senator McCain's campaign actually said, and I quote, "If we keep talking about the economy, we're going to lose."

Check out Maddow's commentary in the video below.

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TheBigDave
06-23-12, 12:04 AM
Obama's latest attack ad on Romney is also full of lies. WaPo's Fact Checker gave it 4 Pinocchios.

The Obama campaign fails to make its case. On just about every level, this ad is misleading, unfair and untrue, from the use of “corporate raider” to its examples of alleged outsourcing. Simply repeating the same debunked claims won’t make them any more correct.

FULL ARTICLE - 4 Pinocchios for Obama’s newest anti-Romney ad (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-checker/post/4-pinocchios-for-obamas-newest-anti-romney-ad/2012/06/20/gJQAGux6qV_blog.html)

Ghostbuster
06-23-12, 01:07 AM
I will have to look into Obama's claims, which require research to disprove. If the claims are false (I wouldn't be surprised), they deserve to be denounced.

Returning to Romney, perhaps most troubling is his assertion that, as the saying goes, two can play that game. (See the "What's sauce for the goose..." statement in the Maddow video above.) Clearly, Romney intends to play dirty since he perceives that Obama is playing dirty. Whatever happened to taking the high road? Apparently, Romney has even dispensed with the pretense of conducting himself with integrity.

wmansir
06-23-12, 01:57 AM
Obama's latest attack ad on Romney is also full of lies. WaPo's Fact Checker gave it 4 Pinocchios.
I found the part at the end of that article interesting:

Upon hearing this ad was under consideration for a tough rating, the Obama campaign supplied reams of additional SEC documents regarding Romney’s ownership in Bain after he left for the Olympics, most of which we had examined previously when we first looked at this question. The campaign also supplied SEC documents showing that two of these companies, Modus and SMTC, as well as one called Stream International (a predecessor of Modus), earned money in part by helping other companies subcontract work overseas ....

The same day the WaPo published : Romney’s Bain Capital invested in companies that moved jobs overseas (http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/romneys-bain-capital-invested-in-companies-that-moved-jobs-overseas/2012/06/21/gJQAsD9ptV_story.html), which is all about Stream/Modus and SMTC. There is no mention of the Obama campaign's opposition research being the seed for the story. I'm sure it's just a coincidence. ;)

And the next day we get: Obama cites Washington Post story on Bain outsourcing to criticize Romney (http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/obama-cites-washington-post-story-on-bain-outsourcing-to-criticize-romney/2012/06/22/gJQAXLbwvV_story.html)

wmansir
06-23-12, 02:24 AM
Good ad. Effective.
I don't think so. Politics of the Holocaust aside who's the target demo here? Not just gun control opponents but people who fear gun control may lead to a US genocide? Whatever that group's size may be I'm sure it is greatly outnumbered by those who would question a candidate's judgement for even suggesting he believes that.

JasonF
06-23-12, 02:36 AM
Obama's latest attack ad on Romney is also full of lies. WaPo's Fact Checker gave it 4 Pinocchios.

What's funny is that the fact check on this ad, which says that Romney outsourced jobs, came out within 24 hours of a front page WaPo article about the fact that Bain outsourced a ton of jobs.

The fact check also spends time trying to figure out if the claim that Romney is a "corporate raider" is accurate, as if there is a scientific definition of "corporate raider."

Ghostbuster
10-29-12, 09:18 PM
Romney has stooped to a new low, doubling-down on a false claim about production of Jeeps in China.

See articles at Business Insider (http://www.businessinsider.com/romney-lies-auto-chrysler-jobs-2012-10), New York Times (http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/30/us/politics/gop-turns-fire-on-obama-pillar-auto-bailout.html), or Los Angeles Times (http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-pn-biden-clinton-romney-jeep-ad-20121029,0,6637512.story)

BKenn01
10-29-12, 09:33 PM
Do you really feel so strongly about "this" issue it deserves to be posted twice?

I dont think "if" Obama gets beat it will have anything to do with this issue. Basically if either one of these campaigns lips are moving there are half truths and outright lies going down.

Ghostbuster
10-29-12, 09:59 PM
Apparently Romney feels the lie is important enough that it needs to be repeated.

SkullOrchard
10-29-12, 10:21 PM
:lol: @ anyone who pretends to be offended by political ads full of distortions and lies.

Face it, Obama is a huge fucking liar, so is Romney.

Stop acting like either of these idiots have even a nanogram of integrity.

You're just making yourself look like a gullible fool.

kefrank
10-29-12, 10:56 PM
Apparently Romney feels the lie is important enough that it needs to be repeated.
Yeah, but politicians are scum. Here on internet forums, we have civility and a certain level of etiquette that has decreed cross-posting to be a douche move. If we can't at least be better than the politicians, all hope is lost.

:)

Jam Master Jay
10-30-12, 03:44 PM
I've been seeing ads like crazy the last few days. Every time I see one of the negative attack ads I always think of this one from GTA and wonder how long it will be before the actual political ads are like this one.

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Th0r S1mpson
10-30-12, 03:49 PM
My personal favorite. Never trust ANYONE who has spent time in Europe. What you need is Soybean Association credentials.

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