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Dr. DVD
06-17-12, 08:21 PM
NOTE: I tried a search on this topic and couldn't find any. If one did exist , it must have been over a year ago as that is the limitation/filter I used.

It seems that since DVD went into widespread use, just about every major release gets several versions released in addition to the theatrical cut (I am hesitant to use the phrase "director's cut", as that might indicate it's the preferred version of the filmmaker, which I don't think is always the case) I was wondering which versions of movies that have alternate cuts we seem to prefer, and which ones we think what was in theaters is just fine. Also, if you feel a version that has some of the extended stuff but not all would make the movie better, please feel free to elaborate.

Alternate Version Preferred

Blade Runner
Kingdom of Heaven
Legend -seems a pattern is emerging ;)
Aliens
The Abyss
LOTR movies
Watchmen-I think the director's version without Black Freighter is the best. The one with it is good, but somewhat of a chore to watch.
Natural Born Killers


Theatrical Preferred

Gladiator
Dances With Wolves
Any Given Sunday- minor changes, but didn't care for the eyeball scene
JFK

Tweaking
Apocalypse Now Redux- I honestly feel the only sequence that adds something in this version is the French plantation. Everything else just seems superfluous.

Superman II The Donner Version-I would say this is the preferred version until they recycle the ending of the first one. I say leave in the theatrical ending and the extended battle at the fortress and it's close to perfect.

Rival11
06-17-12, 08:39 PM
I perfer the extended cut of the expendables some say it makes the movie better...I think it makes it a tad worse but even more enjoyable.

Nick Martin
06-17-12, 08:46 PM
The one movie I can think of where I preferred a theatrical version to an extended version was "Independence Day", and that was because the majority of added scenes were rightfully cut out because the acting was piss-poor and they weren't properly edited into the film, more that they were stuck in there without any attempt to lead-in or lead-out of each one.

I've always preferred an extended version of a film otherwise.

starman9000
06-17-12, 08:50 PM
This forum loves the Daredevil DC, though I feel claims of it making the movie better are overstated.

I prefer the theatrical version of most of Apatow's comedies.

bluetoast
06-17-12, 08:58 PM
The Hangover - Theatrical cut preferred

DthRdrX
06-17-12, 09:07 PM
The ABC cut of Superman 2 is still my favorite. Have it on Beta!

fmian
06-17-12, 09:12 PM
I prefer the theatrical cut of Donnie Darko.

Ash Ketchum
06-17-12, 09:13 PM
TOUCH OF EVIL (1958) - theatrical cut preferred

IT'S A MAD, MAD, MAD, MAD WORLD (1963) - theatrical cut preferred

THE GOOD, THE BAD, AND THE UGLY (1967) - theatrical cut preferred

PAT GARRETT AND BILLY THE KID (1973) - director's cut preferred

BLADE RUNNER (1982) - theatrical cut preferred

HARD TARGET (1993) - director's cut preferred

dhmac
06-17-12, 09:33 PM
Alternate Version Preferred
Blade Runner

But which alternate version of Blade Runner do you prefer?

Blade Runner: The Director's Cut ?
Blade Runner: The Workprint Cut ?
Blade Runner: The Final Cut ?

(Also there were two different Theatrical Cuts: the American version and the European version)

Nick Martin
06-17-12, 09:34 PM
I've never seen Blade Runner, in any of its forms.

Just throwing that out there.

Robert
06-17-12, 09:41 PM
Lethal Weapon - "Director's Cut" The school yard sniper scene is so bad-ass, Donner is an idiot for cutting it out. I'll never watch the theatrical cut blu-ray.

Pizza
06-17-12, 09:48 PM
Prefer the theatrical cuts of Last of the Mohicans and Amadeus.
Prefer extended cuts of Aliens and The Abyss.
Prefer theatrical of The Two Towers but extended for the other two LOTR movies.

Oh yeah, Star Wars...original theatrical all the way.

gp1086
06-17-12, 09:51 PM
Even though I haven't seen the director's cut, I will say I prefer the theatrical cut of the original Star Wars trilogy based on what I've heard of the changes - especially in Return of the Jedi.

Michael Corvin
06-17-12, 09:56 PM
Almost Famous / Untitled Cut is hands down far better than the theatrical cut.

WeylandYutani
06-17-12, 09:58 PM
But which alternate version of Blade Runner do you prefer?

Blade Runner: The Director's Cut ?
Blade Runner: The Workprint Cut ?
Blade Runner: The Final Cut ?

(Also there were two different Theatrical Cuts: the American version and the European version)


Don't forget the TV cuts which used some of the original audio from the Workprint.

JGaitan82
06-17-12, 10:00 PM
Depends on the movie:

Lord of the Rings: Theatrical Cut
Watchmen: Director's Cut
Hostel: Director's Cut
Terminator 2: Judgment Day: Directors Cut
Aliens: Director's Cut
Alien: Director's Cut
Terminator Salvation: Theatrical Cut
Nixon: Director's Cut

B5Erik
06-17-12, 10:02 PM
I tend to prefer extended/director's cuts.

And I'm one of those people who think that the Daredevil director's cut takes it from being a mediocre movie at best to a pretty good one.

I love both cuts of Aliens, but I prefer the Director's Cut. I prefer the longer cut for T2.

Solid Snake
06-17-12, 10:03 PM
Theatrical-
Alien
Black Hawk Down
Clerks
Dawn of The Dead (Romero)
40 year old Virgin
Star Wars
Empire Strikes Back
Return of the Jedi
Knocked Up
Apocalypse Now
Battle Royale
Casino Royale
Close Encounters of the Third Kind
E.T.
Funny People
The Hangover
I Am Legend

Director's Cut-
Almost Famous
The Abyss
Brazil
Blade Runner (aka The Final Cut, the titled DC isn't a real DC per se)
Legend
The Wild Bunch
Pat Garrett and Billy The Kid
Daredevil (still don't like the movie though)
Once Upon A Time In The West
Once Upon A Time In A
The Devil's Rejects
Hellboy
Kagemusha
Aliens
Zodiac
Dark City
The Descent
Last of the Mohicans
Mimic
Natural Born Killers
Taken
Terminator Salvation
Tropic Thunder
True Romance
Watchmen
The Wolfman
Requiem for a Dream

Extended-
Gladiator
Versus
Terminator 2
The New World
John Rambo
Alien Resurrection
The Expendables
King Kong (2005)
Fellowship of The Ring
The Two Towers
Returns of The King

Alternate/International/Unrated/Uncensored-
Enter The Dragon
Eyes Wide Shut
Leon
Alien 3
Red Cliff
Halloween (Zombie)

Dr. DVD
06-17-12, 10:09 PM
But which alternate version of Blade Runner do you prefer?

Blade Runner: The Director's Cut ?
Blade Runner: The Workprint Cut ?
Blade Runner: The Final Cut ?

(Also there were two different Theatrical Cuts: the American version and the European version)

The Final Cut

I also like the slightly extended cut of T2, the one that doesn't include the all happy ending.

The extended version of Avatar's screwed up future opening is pretty good, but that's about all of the change I think works.

WeylandYutani
06-17-12, 10:21 PM
Prefer theatrical of The Two Towers but extended for the other two LOTR movies.



The Extended of The Two Towers is the only one of those EE's that is essential. The theatrical version is a HUGE step down from either version of Fellowship. The extended of Return of the King is a half-assed rush job with some terrible effects, poor attempts at humour and one near-character assassination.

Apple Gooncha
06-17-12, 11:11 PM
LotR: Extended Editions; I feel like the first two benefit the most

Kingdom of Heaven- Extended; I enjoyed the theatrical cut, but think the extended version makes it a borderline great movie

Alexander- The Final Cut; The theatrical cut is a mess, and I really enjoyed the director's cut, but the final cut improves on the DC, I felt.

Superman II- The Donner Cut; I don't even like the theatrical edition of Superman II at all. The Donner version pretty much changed everything that I had issues with in the theatrical cut.

Watchmen- Director's Cut; If only for the added Holis Mason scene, I don't even remember what else was added, other than the bizarre Rorschach introduction. Even though I have the version with the Black Freighter footage added, I've never got around to watching it yet.

Clerks- Theatrical; Not much of a change (that I remember), but that original ending sucks.

Troy- Director's Cut; Although, I don't remember a lot of huge differences, but I liked the different opening.

Mallrats- Other than a different opening, I have no idea what is different between the theatrical and extended versions. I'm pretty sure I've only watched the extended cut once.

I finally bought The New World on blu-ray and look forward to watching it in extended form. I really loved the theatrical release, and I would like to see the 150 minute version, too.

I also just got the Sin City blu-ray, and I'm pretty sure I've only ever seen the theatrical release there. Also, I still haven't watched the extended cut of Green Lantern. I like the theatrical version (despite it being a very flawed movie) and maybe eventually I'll get around to watching that cut, too.

Crocker Jarmen
06-17-12, 11:16 PM
I heavily preferr the theaterical cut of Dawn of the Dead to the "director's cut" they have on DVD. I understand the "director's cut" is really just a less refined edit that was screened at the Cannes festival as a completion fund requirment. I find the pacing of the theatrical version much better, as well as liking the sound mix better. I remember renting the "director's cut" on laser disc, and going nuts as soon as the movie started when the opening scene in the TV station didn't have the Goblin's score in it.

For awhile I liked the theatrical version of Natural Born Killers over the director's cut. This was due to familiarity. I have watched Natural Born Killers about thirty times between 1994-1995, and when I got the big double cassette "director's cut" I hated it. Because of the extra little shots spread throughout the movie, it threw off the timing of the sound mix I was sp familar with. It was like listening to a favorite record full of skips. Over time, I have become accustomed to the "director's cut" and that to me is the movie now.

Giantrobo
06-17-12, 11:31 PM
Just curious...Is there a difference between Director's Cut and Extended Cut?


Anyway...The first film that comes to mind is the extended <b>3 to 4 hour cut of DUNE</b> that used to be shown on TV. I loved the TC, but this one as even better.

Dan
06-17-12, 11:43 PM
Just curious...Is there a difference between Director's Cut and Extended Cut?
Typically, I'd say yes. "Extended" usually just means scenes added to the film to give it more depth, not necessarily what the director prefers as the "final cut" so to speak. A "Director's Cut" is supposed to be exactly what the director wanted, regardless of length or rating. That said, both terms are thrown around so much now that most people think of them as meaning the same thing.

Anyway...The first film that comes to mind is the extended <b>3 to 4 hour cut of DUNE</b> that used to be shown on TV. I loved the TC, but this one as even better.
Heathen!!! ;)
The extended cut of Dune is unwatchable, IMO. It's so bad that even David Lynch refused to take credit as the director.

For awhile I liked the theatrical version of Natural Born Killers over the director's cut. This was due to familiarity. I have watched Natural Born Killers about thirty times between 1994-1995, and when I got the big double cassette "director's cut" I hated it. Because of the extra little shots spread throughout the movie, it threw off the timing of the sound mix I was sp familar with. It was like listening to a favorite record full of skips. Over time, I have become accustomed to the "director's cut" and that to me is the movie now.
Very interesting. I was pretty young win NBK came out in theatres. When it hit home video, I tried to watch it and found it pretty horrible. It wasn't until the double-cassette Director's Cut that I fell in love with the film.

Extended/Alternate/Director's cuts that I specifically don't like:
Terminator 2 (of all three versions, the theatrical is the best)
Empire Records (it changes the flow of the movie in a weird way)
Donnie Darko (takes the film from great to lousy)
Watchmen (as someone else mentioned, the DC is the best. The Ultimate Cut is too much and the Theatrical is too short)
Aliens (It's not bad, just not preferred)
Mallrats (way too long until they get into the mall)

Rypro 525
06-18-12, 12:20 AM
Hostel: Director's Cut


which version? the version with like 15 seconds of extra gore, or the one with the one with the alternate ending

Matthew Chmiel
06-18-12, 12:36 AM
From what I own on Blu-ray:

Alien: Theatrical, a far tighter film despite the extended cut being shorter.
Aliens: Extended, adds far more to the first act that pays off later in the film.
Aliens 3: Extended, far darker and the plot makes more sense.
Alien: Resurrection: Theatrical, nobody should endure an extra two minutes.
Almost Famous: Extended, it makes a great film become a brilliant film.
Anchorman: Theatrical, fuck Judd Apatow.
Apocalypse Now: Theatrical, Redux is far too long.
Avatar: Theatrical, the extended cuts don't add anything substantial.
Battle Royale: Theatrical, the pacing gets thrown off in the extended.
Beerfest: Theatrical, some of the best jokes are removed from the extended.
Blade Runner: Extended (Final Cut), its Scott's definitive vision.
The Boat that Rocked: Extended, the US theatrical cut just isn't as enriching.
Bridesmaids: Theatrical, fuck Judd Apatow.
Cabin Fever: Extended, contains more violence that was removed to obtain a R.
Close Encounters of the Third Kind: Theatrical, far less aliens are for the best.
Dark City: Theatrical, the extended ruins some of the allure and mystery of the flick.
Dawn of the Dead 78: Extended (Cannes Cut), contains more violence!
Dawn of the Dead 04: Extended, contains more violence that was removed to obtain a R and plot holes are bridged!
Dead Alive: Extended (US Unrated Cut), it's far tighter despite a lack of violence from the original NZ edit.
The Descent: Extended, it gets rid of the happy ending Lionsgate demanded for the US theatrical cut.
Dodgeball: Theatrical, some of the best jokes are removed from the extended.
Doomsday: Extended, contains more violence that was removed to obtain a R.
Dumb and Dumber: Theatrical, the extended cut adds too much fluff.
The Exorcist: Theatrical, and don't you doubt it.
Fast Five: Extended, contains more violence that was removed to obtain a PG-13.
Fired Up: Extended, contains more nudity that was removed to obtain a PG-13.
Friday the 13th 09: Extended, more violence and more tits... despite carrying the same MPAA rating.
Funny People: Theatrical, fuck Judd Apatow.
Get Him to the Greek: Theatrical, fuck Judd Apatow.
The Girl Next Door: Extended, contains more nudity that was removed to obtain a R.
The Hangover: Theatrical, the extended cut is bloated and ruins the pacing of both the first and third acts.
Harold & Kumar Escape from Guantanamo Bay: Extended, contains more nudity that was removed to obtain a R.
Harold and Kumar Go to White Castle: Extended, contains more nudity that was removed to obtain a R.
Hostel: Extended (Unrated Cut), contains more violence that was removed to obtain a R and I prefer the theatrical ending rather than Roth's ending.
Hostel: Part II: Extended, contains more violence that was removed to obtain a R.
Horrible Bosses: Theatrical, extended cut removes some of the best jokes.
Hot Tub Time Machine: Extended, more tits.
Jackass 3: Extended, only for the gang gluing Ryan Dunn's ass to Phil's back.
Knocked Up: Theatrical, fuck Judd Apatow.
Menace II Society: Extended, contains more violence that was removed to obtain a R... but was rated R when re-released on Blu-ray.
Miss March: Extended, contains more nudity that was removed to obtain a R and has a better ending.
My Bloody Valentine 81: Extended, contains more violence that was removed to obtain a R.
National Lampoon's Van Wilder: Theatrical, the extended cut adds 30 seconds of a guy making fart noises. Fan-fucking-tastic.
Pineapple Express: Theatrical, fuck Judd Apatow.
The Rules of Attraction: Extended, contains more violence that was removed to obtain a R.
Saw II: Extended, contains more violence that was removed to obtain a R.
Saw III: Extended (Unrated Cut), contains more violence that was removed to obtain a R and doesn't cause inconsistency with IV like the Director's Cut.
Saw IV: Extended, contains more violence that was removed to obtain a R.
Saw V: Extended, contains more violence that was removed to obtain a R.
Saw VI: Extended, contains more violence that was removed to obtain a R.
Saw 3D: Extended, contains more violence that was removed to obtain a R.
Sex Drive: Theatrical, the extended cut is a joke (but a hilarious joke at that).
Step Brothers: Theatrical, fuck Judd Apatow.
Still Waiting...: Extended, the stinger after the credits may be one of the few bright spots of this piece of shit.
Superbad: Extended, the only Judd Apatow-involved flick that doesn't fuck with the pacing of the film and adds some great jokes.
The Texas Chainsaw Massacre: The Beginning: Extended, contains more violence that was removed to obtain a R.
True Romance: Extended, contains more violence that was removed to obtain a R.
Very Harold & Kumar 3D Christmas: Extended, contains more NPH.
Waiting...: Theatrical, too bad its not on Blu-ray.
Wedding Crashers: Theatrical, a better paced film despite the lack of tits.
Zodiac: Extended, who doesn't want more Fincher?

Oh, I forgot:

Donnie Darko: Theatrical, the extended cut ruins the film.
Terminator 2: Extended (Special Edition), only for Kyle Reese.
Watchmen: Extended (Director's Cut), more is always a good thing... except the Ultimate Cut which is way too much and disrupts Snyder's narrative.

Mondo Kane
06-18-12, 03:06 AM
From those that I've seen:
Extended
Dawn of the Dead ('78)-Only thing I hate is the stock music used in the apartment raids and in the fuel station.
Fantastic 4-At least we get to see Doom kill more people.
Caligula-For those who hate this movie, try watching the R-cut. You'll be bored to death.
Dances With Wolves-I like Two Socks' new introduction.
Apocalypse Now Redux-Not that big of a fan of the French Plantation scene, but I liked the Playboy Bunny reuinon.
Return of The King-Mostly here for Sauraman's closure.
Halloween '78-I can't think of Halloween without having the Loomis/young Michael scene.
Death Proof-No complaints other than I didn't need to hear "Baby, It's You" twice.
Nosferatu '22-Most public domain copies don't have the plague scenes.
Battle Royale-I admit that the added backstories tend to slow things down, but I appreciated that the EE paid respect by refreshing the viewer's memory of who the dead kids are supposed to be.
The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly-Glad to have more Angel Eyes scenes (After a while, the theatrical version looks like it should be called "The Good and The Ugly") and although it's a very brief inclusion, it's good to finally see "The night" where Blondie unloads Tuco's gun. This was a mysterious flaw in the U.S. theatrical cut.

Director's Cut
True Romance-Retains an edge for allowing Alabama to become a cop-killer.
The Abyss-The water apocalypse eventually grew on me.
Basic Instinct-Only negative thing is that the extra gory shots involving the dummy in the opening scene are pretty bad. It looks nothing like the actor.
Aliens-The sentry gun-sequences do add some suspense.
Brotherhood of the Wolf-I don't remember what the differences were, but I still perfer this one anyway.
Once Upon a Time in America-As a kid, I didn't think that the butchered linear version wasn't that bad. But as you get older, you notice the brilliance of the original version.
T2-Chip removal scene is a great one.
Natural Born Killers-Didn't mind the theatrical, but this was an improvment.
Woodstock-I especially liked the new opening which showed the green landscape before being turned into a gigantic shit hill.
Last of the Mohicans-I loved the removal of that corny song.
RoboCop-More gore is a good thing here.

Theatrical
The Outsiders-Though some of the new scenes from "The Complete Novel" aren't bad, it's the removal of the original (And highly dramatic) music which ends up being the main culprit.
Planet Terror-New scenes slow it's great pace down.
Bugsy-Newly added footage is too deteriorated compared to the rest of the film.
Enter The Dragon-Monk scene sure doesn't add a lot.
I Am Legend-Watched the alternate-ending first. Certainly ended up liking the movie more by watching the theatrical soon after.
The Two Towers-I loved the ending with Sam's speech playing over the multiple events. But the impact of this moment is soon ruined in the EE when Merry & Pip start playing around in the water.
JFK-A more suspensful angle is slightly added in the Dir. Cut, but wasn't necessary since the tension was already felt in the theatrical.

"Not sure what to call these versions"
Brazil-The VHS version is what I have to call it, I guess. It's missing the "Santa Claus" scene (Which appears in the Director's/European Cut) but those versions don't have the cloudy background seen in the ending credits. I was bummed to see that this shot wasn't included in the previously mentioned versions. It's even seen in the "Love Conquers All" version!
I Drink Your Blood-I still have no idea what the difference is between the X-Rated cut and The Director's Cut.
Rabid Dogs/Kidnapped-Though DOGS gains points for having the more badass (And original) music score, I feel that KIDNAPPED has a more sudden kick-to-the-balls ending than DOGS does.
Pat Garrett and Billy the Kid-There was an "Uncut" version released sometime in the late 90's (It's different from The Theatrical cut, the Turner Preview Version, and the Director's Cut) This is actually my favorite cut. To tell you the truth, any cut that has "Knockin' on Heaven's Door" as an instrumental is my favorite.
Wide Sargasso Sea-The Unrated Cut actually has more sex than the NC-17 version. Go figure.

FRwL
06-18-12, 04:07 AM
GBU- Extended, even with a course voice the Grotto scene is poignant. There's an unloading scene in here? Don't remember.

Superman Extended- The reason extended editions exist, there's no real reasonfor the theatrical. Everything is retained, the movie is not changed plotwise, and yet its pointful. A journey

Blade Runner- If someone forced me to pick 1 its final cut... and I'm in the human camp!

devilshalo
06-18-12, 07:51 AM
While I love me more Quint in the extended cut, I still prefer the original cut of JAWS.
And I love the final cut of Close Encounters of the Third Kind.
Ripley's scene where she learns her daughter has died of old age in the ALIENS director's cut really lend more to her relationship with Newt and just pisses me off about ALIEN<sup>3</sup> even more.


I still wish they would put out the extended cut of Caddyshack with extra scenes they showed on its early tv run.

Jay G.
06-18-12, 09:35 AM
Typically, I'd say yes. "Extended" usually just means scenes added to the film to give it more depth, not necessarily what the director prefers as the "final cut" so to speak. A "Director's Cut" is supposed to be exactly what the director wanted, regardless of length or rating. That said, both terms are thrown around so much now that most people think of them as meaning the same thing.
There's also variances like "Uncut Version" and "Special Edition". James Cameron often uses the term "Special Edition" for the alternate cuts of his films, so they're not necessarily a "Director's Cut". For example, this article points out that for Avatar, Cameron prefers the theatrical cut, while making the SE version as a bonus for fans:
http://www.movie-censorship.com/report.php?ID=869530


"Not sure what to call these versions"
Brazil-The VHS version is what I have to call it, I guess. It's missing the "Santa Claus" scene (Which appears in the Director's/European Cut) but those versions don't have the cloudy background seen in the ending credits. I was bummed to see that this shot wasn't included in the previously mentioned versions. It's even seen in the "Love Conquers All" version!
That's the US Theatrical Cut of Brazil, which was the cut on US VHS copies of the film. US DVD releases all contained the Director's Final Cut, but the current US Blu-ray of Brazil by Universal is the US Theatrical Cut.

Rival11
06-18-12, 10:26 AM
Lethal Weapon - "Director's Cut" The school yard sniper scene is so bad-ass, Donner is an idiot for cutting it out. I'll never watch the theatrical cut blu-ray.

I honestly never would have known about this scene if it wasn't for your post.....just watched it and agreed he should have kept it in. I don't want to hear no shit about "It didn't have a place anywhere, it just wouldn't have fit" This is one they could have made work.

EDIT: Oh, and thanks for posting ;)

Ash Ketchum
06-18-12, 11:00 AM
KILL BILL VOL. 1 - Japanese cut preferred

Pizza
06-18-12, 12:55 PM
The Extended of The Two Towers is the only one of those EE's that is essential. The theatrical version is a HUGE step down from either version of Fellowship. The extended of Return of the King is a half-assed rush job with some terrible effects, poor attempts at humour and one near-character assassination.

It's just my opinion. The Two Towers is my favorite of the three. For me, the extended version just dragged on and on and disrupted the pacing. I didnt feel the love i felt when watching the theatrical cut. The extended cuts of the other two films contain scenes I really like. Ultimately, it doesn't matter that much. Both versions of LOTR demand a lot of movie watching so I won't be watching them a whole bunch.

I see Battle Royale mentioned a few times. I'm in the minority here too. I love the extended version. I feel the high school scenes bring a lot more emotion and power to the story. I dont feel a bump to the pacing. The theatrical feels too stripped down. Both versions are great.

klemsaba
06-18-12, 02:59 PM
I like many of the elements of the extended/director's cut of Aliens except for the scene where Newt's family heads out and finds the ship and ultimately the facehugger. Because of that one scene I recommend the theatrical version when asked which to watch and generally watch that myself.

JGaitan82
06-18-12, 03:11 PM
I forgot about Sucker Punch: Theatrical. The extended cut is slower, and the musical number is not worth it.

brayzie
06-18-12, 03:30 PM
Blade Runner-Final Cut

All around the best version.

Aliens Special Edition
I'm kind of torn because the scene with the auto guns makes the xenomorphs look like mindless monsters that rush without thought into a hail of gunfire. I also thought the scene of "Hadley's Hope" kind of takes away the suspense of Ripley and Co first arriving on LV-426. BUT, Ripley's fleshed out character makes up for all of this.

Leon The Professional Extended Version

There was a couple scenes that verged on creepy that deserved to be deleted, but all the other scenes added to the film very well. I liked the scenes where Mathilda goes with Leon to assist on his missions.

Star Wars The Empire Strikes Back Special Edition

The updated effects make Cloud City look MUCH better. This film is the only Lucas alteration that I like.

Halloween TV version/Extended Version

The intro scene was great.

T2 Theatrical Release

The chip removal scene makes the t-800 acting more human, more believable. BUT, everything else in the Special Edition detracts from the film like the silly scene of the t-1000 touching the yellow stripped pole and looking like Plastic Man, and the happy ending.

Exorcist Theatrical Release

I liked the talk between the two priests in THE VERSION YOU'VE NEVER SEEN, but everything else was unnecessary. The establishing shot of the the church and house seemed tacked on, and the spider walk scene looks better in the trailer than the actual film.

WeylandYutani
06-18-12, 04:10 PM
That's the US Theatrical Cut of Brazil, which was the cut on US VHS copies of the film. US DVD releases all contained the Director's Final Cut, but the current US Blu-ray of Brazil by Universal is the US Theatrical Cut.

Fucking idiotic.

rw2516
06-18-12, 06:54 PM
Has the alternate FATAL ATRRACTION ever been made available? The version rejected by test audiences having Glenn Close commit suicide in such a way that Michael Douglas is framed and arrested for her murder.

WeylandYutani
06-18-12, 07:19 PM
Bad Santa: Theatrical Cut > Badder Santa > Bad Santa: Director's Cut

Mr. Cinema
06-18-12, 07:27 PM
40 Year Old Virgin - definitely theatrical. It's a much tighter paced film.

Robert
06-18-12, 08:55 PM
Horrible Bosses: Theatrical, extended cut removes some of the best jokes.



What jokes were cut out?

dhmac
06-18-12, 10:06 PM
While I love me more Quint in the extended cut, I still prefer the original cut of JAWS.

There's an extended cut of Jaws! What was different in it?

Labor
06-18-12, 11:32 PM
Movies that I feel are fundamentally superior in their Extended formats:

Kingdom of heaven - Most obvious, complete overhaul of the film, deeper, more fleshed out, more story, more character, more everything...in a good way

The Abyss - Much like KoH, its simply far more fleshed out, its themes better defined, as its characters. An epic and emotional film.

Leon - Not really an extended version, simply the original european cut IIRC. Either way, a far superior movie.

Blade Runner - Self explanatory

Brazil - ditto


Movies that I feel are better than their theatrical cuts, but aren't redifining the films:

Avatar - 3 hr Extended cut. Pacing in the middle is improved, characterization is improved, everything added is worth adding.

Aliens - I actually like both cuts equally, but the extended is simply a more involving journey imo.

Terminator 2 - A more fleshed out experiences. Some of the material is vital and never should have been removed.

The New World - Simply a case of the film being so good that it being longer is just an opportunity to enjoy it that much more. The Extended cut is a beautiful experience.

Sucker Punch - Extended cut is far better paced, and the removed material is vital and never should have been removed.

Watchmen - A simply more complete film. The theatrical cut is essentially a cliff's notes version.

Robin Hood (ridley scott) - the added subplot and other scenes improve the film, mostly with better overall characterization



The Lord of Rings Extended Versions are great, but I dont prefer them, nor do I prefer the theatrical cuts. Both have their strengths and weaknesses.

Alien is far better in its Theatrical version, something Ridley agrees with, same for Gladiator. Exorcist is also superior in its theatrical cut.

Apocalypse Now Redux is an interesting deviation and worth a watch, but by no means does it replace the theatrical cut.

Matthew Chmiel
06-18-12, 11:48 PM
What jokes were cut out?
The one notable example is how Motherfucker Jones got the name Motherfucker Jones. The extended cut ruins the pacing of the joke and the punch line.

Not cut out per say, but ruined.

Labor
06-18-12, 11:59 PM
Most comedy unrated cuts tend to be inferior, same for many Horror movies, with the exception of the ones that were cut for rating reasons, like Hills Have Eyes remake. It was literally cut from NC-17 to R IIRC and the unrated cut restores what was taken out.

DJariya
06-19-12, 12:10 AM
I know I'll be in the minority with this, but I have the 4-disc DVD of Pearl Harbor (the R-rated cut) and IMO that actually made it a better movie.

DJariya
06-19-12, 12:11 AM
Now here's a question for some of you. Is there an extended or longer cut of a movie that you think actually made the movie worse?

mwbmis
06-19-12, 12:18 AM
Aliens Special Edition
I'm kind of torn because the scene with the auto guns makes the xenomorphs look like mindless monsters that rush without thought into a hail of gunfire. I also thought the scene of "Hadley's Hope" kind of takes away the suspense of Ripley and Co first arriving on LV-426. BUT, Ripley's fleshed out character makes up for all of this.


I think the Aliens Special Edition in the better cut of the movie mainly for the character moments. For instance, I still don't understand why they take that 10 second moment away from Hicks and Ripley in the theatrical cut. But the biggest thing is Ripley/Newt. "Mommy" rings a little false in the theatrical cut, but I felt the movie earns it in the special edition.

I do completely agree that the early scene at LV-426 detracts more than it adds but thankfully it is a self contained chapter on the Blu/DVD releases so I usually just skip it.

Labor
06-19-12, 12:20 AM
Now here's a question for some of you. Is there an extended or longer cut of a movie that you think actually made the movie worse?
Donnie Darko

JimRochester
06-19-12, 09:33 PM
the one movie i can think of where i preferred a theatrical version to an extended version was "independence day", and that was because the majority of added scenes were rightfully cut out because the acting was piss-poor and they weren't properly edited into the film, more that they were stuck in there without any attempt to lead-in or lead-out of each one.

I've always preferred an extended version of a film otherwise.

+1

Julie Walker
06-20-12, 12:59 AM
Now here's a question for some of you. Is there an extended or longer cut of a movie that you think actually made the movie worse?

Dances With Wolves. The 4 hour version drags and destroys all the atmosphere the 3 hour version contains and just ruins the film completely. It has awful pacing, and nothing is left to the imagination, such as what happened to the previous troops at the fort Costner's character relocates to. It's all ruined and explained in the 4 hour version and is disappointing, considering the mystery that the 3 hour version leaves you, as he arrives at the empty fort. It's a great example of more equaling less, since as great as the 3 hour version is, and you may think 'more' of it will be a 'good' thing. The 4 hour version proves that wrong by completely changing the pace and tone and destroying whatever mystique the 3 hour version had.

davidh777
06-20-12, 01:16 AM
Now here's a question for some of you. Is there an extended or longer cut of a movie that you think actually made the movie worse?

I've never seen Jackson's extended King Kong but I thought the original was too long so that might be a possibility

Julie Walker
06-20-12, 01:59 AM
Theatrical...

Friday the 13th(1980), one memorable death scene and jump scare moment is ruined in the unrated version. The other differences are so minor, they work in either version, but this one scene is ruined in the unrated in my opinion.

Dawn of the Dead (2004), mainly for the much better punch line/editing finale of the "Down with the Sickness" sequence. It's ruined in the directors cut. The pacing is also a bit better in the theatrical version, despite some plot holes and other issues. But I recall being a bit bored by the longer version, and it was nice to revisit the theatrical cut, and the 'Down with the Sickness' sequence is now amusing again.

The Dukes of Hazzard (2005) mainly since a gag at the end of the film is far less funny in the alternate version of the sequence and just doesn't work at all. The rest of the differences didn't really enhance or ruin the film from what I recall, but that one change was annoying as hell. If only this version were released in widescreen. That's another studio tactic I hate where they make only the alternate version available in widescreen and the theatrical cut is issued in fullscreen/pan & scan only. So I still only have the unrated widescreen version, but that last scene which I enjoyed in the theatrical cut being changed for the worse makes me less interested in wanting to watch it.

Grindhouse: Planet Terror and Death Proof. There is much better pacing in the shorter double feature cuts of the films. The extended cuts kill the pacing and just ruin the fun in my opinion. Death Proof for example is well paced in the shorter version even if the film isn't the greatest(I love the first half of the film). But the extended version is a bloated mess with so much pointless filler and drags completely and is a chore to sit through.

Kill Bill Volume 1. I think the pacing of the House of Blue Leaves sequence is much tighter and flows nicely, and it looks very cool in black and white.

Dawn of the Dead(1978), the U.S. theatrical is the only version to see in my opinion and is just perfect in it's editing and soundtrack selection. All the other versions suck. The extended cut is bloated and dull with really bad pacing and alternate score. The Argento cut is a mess with awful over-use of Goblin score, and chopping up the film taking away all the atmosphere it originally contained making it just a boring mess with no substance. I'm still surprised some people prefer the Argento cut, which was just awful in my opinion. The opening apartment raid is completely lousy in this version, while it's intense and disturbing in the U.S. theatrical cut.

The Blues Brothers. great pacing. the extended version is bloated and has awful pacing ruining all the fun. The theatrical cut keeps on track and is a great time from beginning to end.


American Pie. Mainly since the 'pie' sequence is much funnier than the alternate unrated version of the scene. Comedy is a tricky area, and the R scene got laughs from me, while the unrated version felt tacky and trying to hard to be 'outrageous' and failing(in my opinion). The other differences are so minor, it doesn't add or detract from the film. But that one scene is 'ruined' in my opinion in the unrated version, thus I prefer the theatrical R version.


Alternate versions...

American Pie 2. The 'lesbian' scene is just lame in the R version and less amusing. The unrated scene got some big laughs and had better pacing and payoff. Some amusing other moments are in this version as well, but this big scene is just pointless and badly edited in the R version making the unrated superior.

American Wedding. The bachelor party scene is again pretty badly edited and lame in the R version with some parts of the scene not making sense and feeling rushed, and so the extra material is welcome in the unrated version.

The Street Fighter(1974) The R version literally cuts out all the gore and violence from the film making it pointless to watch, and also very confusing and tame in the extreme, since entire scenes are just missing! So this is one where the unrated version is the way to go. It's a great example of how insanely strict the MPAA used to be however on low budget gore flicks. Since I don't recall many films being as chopped up for ratings reasons this badly today, though I'm sure it still happens once in a rare while.

Dead Alive. The U.S. unrated 97 minute version has the best pacing and is the one to watch. The 85 minute R version is awful with all the gore completely chopped out destroying the outrageous nature of it all and ruining the humor. And the longer uncut 104 minute version just drags with the additions with some gags being less amusing and so forth.

Dr. DVD
06-20-12, 11:54 AM
I agree with the assessment of Dances With Wolves, as well as any that might be said of Gladiator. The theatrical cuts are the versions that won Best Picture, not what they put on DVD and then slap on "Best Picture Winner" as a marketing tool. While I like the EE of ROTK, the theatrical version is what people thought deserved Best Picture of that as well, though I have a feeling minds were made up and it was bound to win regardless of what cut was released.

FWIW, I'm not saying there aren't scenes in the DWW EE that I like. I think the return to camp after scouting the buffalo and seeing what they had done to the white hunters actually added something. It showed that this group of Sioux could be vicious when they wanted/needed, and let it be known that maybe Dunbar wasn't 100% safe, he was just on their cool list at the time. I also like the scene where he goes with Kicking Bird to the Grant Tetons. Great scenery, but finding all of the slaughtered animals is just a repeat of what happened earlier with the buffalo.

JimRochester
06-20-12, 03:54 PM
The BR of Hollow Man only had an extended cut. It included 3 scenes, that if you watched the extras in the theatrical version, the director omitted for pacing and tone. The scenes make Kevin Bacon's character far more violent, far earlier. I don't quite think it classified as ruining the movie but it certainly made drastic changes to the feel of the theatrical version which I greatly preferred.

RobLutter
06-20-12, 05:03 PM
Any of Ridley Scott's efforts. His films are always better in Extended Versions.

Kill Bill: Japanese Cut - I always thought the color change was gimmicky... plus more violence!

Battle Royale: Theatrical Cut - The 'Special Edition' was a ploy to make more money with extra bloat and super-kitchy added CGI blood. Kinji Fukasaku had enough swing in Japanese cinema to make it how he wanted to the first time around.

Almost Famous: Untitled - This took the film from average to brillant in my mind. Amazing.

Star Wars: The Despecialized Edition - Basically takes all the improvements to the films in the special edition (cleaned up special effects, etc), but eliminates the special edition's sacrilege (added CGI... dancing aliens). Completely illegal and available from all your favorite bays of pirates in HD. ;)

Star Trek: The Motion Picture: Director's Cut - Actually makes the film watchable.

The Lord of The Rings: Extended Editions - FotR and TTT specifically... What more can be said about these? I believe that Return of the King really didn't need it though, as it was already Extended Edition length in the first place :)

The Rocky Horror Picture Show: Theatrical Cut - Meh to "Super Heroes"... or the Black and White for that matter.

Any comedy upon first DVD/BD release with "MORE RAUNCHY! FUNNIER! cut added - Fuck Judd Apatow?

South Park (TV): TV versions. I can't stand watching these on HULU because they don't have the BEEEP over swear words. I swear the beeping makes it funnier.

M*A*S*H (TV): DVD versions. No laugh track. This show was never supposed to have a laugh track.

Traxan
06-20-12, 05:30 PM
LotR: Extended Editions; I feel like the first two benefit the most


You kidding? RotK Extended had a few huge scenes that should never have been left out.

Troy- Director's Cut; Although, I don't remember a lot of huge differences, but I liked the different opening.


Actually it adds a lot of character development and some great dialogue. It makes the movie a lot better.

One movie where the director's cut was way better: Waterworld. A LOT of stuff is explained.

Aceguy
06-20-12, 05:49 PM
I love seeing alternate cuts. Here's my list of preferences. More to come eventually.
Theatrical
Terminator Salvation
Star Trek:The Motion Picture
Manhunter

Extended/Unrated
Superman:The Movie
Terminator 2: Judgement Day (Special Edition)
Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country (Collector's Edition version)
Hancock

Director's Version
Blade Runner: The Final Cut
Star Trek II: The Wrath of Kahn

JimRochester
06-20-12, 06:02 PM
Troy - Directors Cut was much better. The finale' pillaging scene is far more violent

PatD
06-20-12, 07:42 PM
Theatrical Cuts I Want on Blu ray

Amadeus--The Oscar winning editing as it was meant to be seen. To this day, they have never released this on a single-sided DVD or on Blu ray (or even iTunes). "The Director's Cut" blows chunks and that's all there is to it. (And it actually says "Amadeus: The Director's Cut" on the title card in the movie!)

Star Wars
--No Greedo shooting first; no CGI Jabba rehashing what Greedo said earlier; no inserting Biggs Darklighter in the rebel hangar bay while still leaving out the Anchorhead scenes.

The Empire Strikes Back
--No lame 2004 version of Emperor Palpatine hologram; No stupid and pointless bit with Darth Vader leaving Cloud City and heading to his Star Destroyer

Return of the Jedi
--No CGI critters in Jabba's palace; No cgi beak in the Sarlaac; No "Nooooooo!"; No blinking Ewoks; No Hayden Christensen in place of Sebastian Shaw.

JFK
This one is more tightly paced and doesn't have the bit where Jim Garrison and Lou Ivon are in the Texas school book depository talking about "our friend, Clay Shaw" *before* he's actually been introduced into the movie proper. (However the Theatrical Cut is available on iTunes--just sayin')

Nixon
Because I'm a completist.

Almost Famous
Because I'm a completist.

Spottedfeather
06-20-12, 09:24 PM
I refuse to watch the extended edition of the Lord Of The Rings movies until they make it so you don't have to switch discs to watch the whole thing. I love the director's version of the first Highlander movie. Director's cut or not, Watchmen sucks.

Jay G.
06-20-12, 10:35 PM
I refuse to watch the extended edition of the Lord Of The Rings movies until they make it so you don't have to switch discs to watch the whole thing.
That strikes me as an extremely petty reason not to watch it.

WeylandYutani
06-20-12, 11:48 PM
You kidding? RotK Extended had a few huge scenes that should never have been left out.

Would they include the scenes of more stupid Gimli antics played for laughs or that abysmal Mouth of Sauron scene that succeeds in making Aragorn look like a complete dumbass?

Crocker Jarmen
06-21-12, 02:21 AM
Dawn of the Dead(1978), the U.S. theatrical is the only version to see in my opinion and is just perfect in it's editing and soundtrack selection.

Absolutely. Back in the VCR days, I had the VHS extended cut and would dig out my father's old Beta machine to watch the theatrical version. From the first frame of the movie, the weaker extended cut's sound mix sinks the film.


The Argento cut is a mess... The opening apartment raid is completely lousy in this version, while it's intense and disturbing in the U.S. theatrical cut.


Agree 100%. I was flabbergasted when the big DVD set came out and I watched the Argento cut, specificly in the apartment raid scene where the Goblin music was all action packed, like it was supposed to be exciting to watch the government blast away the people in the tenemant. It make that sequence "fun" instead of horrifying.

I was infurtiated when I listened to the actors commentary, and they all said they hadn't seen the movie in 10 or 15 years, yet the Argento cut was the one they were watching. That winds up being the movie they thought they made instead of the masterpiece that is the Romeo theatrical version.

Spottedfeather
06-21-12, 02:51 AM
That strikes me as an extremely petty reason not to watch it.

Not really. I just have no desire to switch discs halfway through a movie, which would take you out of the movie, ruining the flow of things. You could be getting really into a great part of the movie, only to be jarred out of it to have to switch a disc. Or flip a disc over, which is why I never got into laserdisc. Having to switch discs, as I said, ruins the flow of a movie.

Jay G.
06-21-12, 08:07 AM
Not really. I just have no desire to switch discs halfway through a movie, which would take you out of the movie, ruining the flow of things.
So you never pause a movie to go to the bathroom, answer the phone, refill your drink, etc? Cause that breaks the flow of a movie too.

The breaks, for the most part, come at decent temporary halting points. They don't just stop them mid-scene. Back in the day, they would've stuck an intermission there in theaters.

That said, the digital copies of the LOTR:EE are all one file. If you had the digital copies of these films, would you watch them then?

.. which is why I never got into laserdisc.
Laserdisc could be insane; having to flip or swap a disc every half hour would be annoying. That said, some Laserdiscs could hold about an hour a side, and there were auto flipping Laserdisc players, so this annoyance was mitigated some. But the LOTR EEs have change points only once per film, around 2 hours into the movie. It's not that big of a deal.

Randy Miller III
06-21-12, 08:18 AM
I've never seen the theatrical cut of "40 Year-Old Virgin" (most releases are the extended cut only), but it's got to be an improvement. I mean, the movie's funny and all, but does any comedy---especially one with a thin premise---need to be over two hours?

Jay G.
06-21-12, 09:45 AM
I've never seen the theatrical cut of "40 Year-Old Virgin" (most releases are the extended cut only), but it's got to be an improvement. I mean, the movie's funny and all, but does any comedy---especially one with a thin premise---need to be over two hours?
There was a big stink when that film originally came out on DVD, because Universal originally only released the theatrical cut in "Full Frame" 4:3. The eventually bowed to consumer demand and released a WS DVD of the theatrical cut.

I do think that, whatever my personal preference, the theatrical cut should be made available. The Blu-ray for 40 Year-Old Virgin has both cuts on it.

Traxan
06-21-12, 12:39 PM
Would they include the scenes of more stupid Gimli antics played for laughs or that abysmal Mouth of Sauron scene that succeeds in making Aragorn look like a complete dumbass?

Let's see:

Faramir seeing Pippin in his old uniform, building the bond between the two.

The King of the Dead scene. I liked it.

Nazgul/Gandalf confrontation at Minas

The Battle of Pelennor Fields, where Merry kicked major ass and we saw Gothmog's fate.

The House of Healing, showing the start of Faramir and Eowin's relationship

Those could all have been in the theatrical cut.

WeylandYutani
06-21-12, 02:48 PM
Let's see:

Faramir seeing Pippin in his old uniform, building the bond between the two.

The King of the Dead scene. I liked it.

Nazgul/Gandalf confrontation at Minas

The Battle of Pelennor Fields, where Merry kicked major ass and we saw Gothmog's fate.

The House of Healing, showing the start of Faramir and Eowin's relationship

Those could all have been in the theatrical cut.

They could have but none are essential. The film isn't hurt in any significant way by not having any of these bits. The Faramir/Boromir/Denethor sequence excised from TTT, however, is essential and Jackson regrets ever deciding to leave it out, for good reason.

dhmac
06-21-12, 08:37 PM
I refuse to watch the extended edition of the Lord Of The Rings movies until they make it so you don't have to switch discs to watch the whole thing.
I personally like the splitting up of The Lord of the Rings because being split into 6 discs returned the movies to a structure similar to the original novel. The original novel was a massive single volume divided internally into 6 books. Yes, 6 books! The publisher decided to print the massive novel in 3 separate volumes but, internally, it was always 6 books. And, back to the extended film versions, I think watching the movies as 6 separate films by treating each disc as a stand-alone film actually works well. I even recommend people watch it that way.

So, even though I was bit surprised that the Blu-ray release still split up each extended cut movie into 2 discs, I wasn't disappointed.

islandclaws
06-21-12, 08:55 PM
As many have already said, all of Apatow's comedies are much better in their theatrical incarnations.

In fact, just about every contemporary comedy that's been given an extended cut feels bloated.

I also think The Exorcist works best theatrically.

For extended cuts that haven't been mentioned, I now prefer the slightly longer edit of Conquest of the Planet of the Apes.

dhmac
06-21-12, 09:44 PM
I love seeing alternate cuts. Here's my list of preferences. More to come eventually.
Theatrical

Star Trek:The Motion Picture

Wow, I couldn't disagree more! I think there are few other films that better illustrate how much a Director's Cut can improve a film than Star Trek: The Motion Picture (Director's Edition).

Aceguy
06-22-12, 09:05 AM
Wow, I couldn't disagree more! I think there are few other films that better illustrate how much a Director's Cut can improve a film than Star Trek: The Motion Picture (Director's Edition).
I know that me prefering the theatrical cut is strange, but the theatrical cut felt faster to me. I did enjoy the continuity fixes in the Director's Edition but it was just long and boring.

dom56
06-22-12, 09:48 AM
I like the alternate ending of Rango. Had me laughing my ass off on that one, wish they played that in theater.

d2cheer
06-22-12, 04:32 PM
Lethal Weapon - "Director's Cut" The school yard sniper scene is so bad-ass, Donner is an idiot for cutting it out. I'll never watch the theatrical cut blu-ray.

I agree but him picking up the teenage hooker was just creepy. That should have been left out.

Reindeer Games the DC makes Afflecks character more badass and not such a pussy.

The Abyss.

The Warriors Theatrical can't stand the cartoon shit they added for the DC and sadly that is the only version on blu.

Solid Snake
06-22-12, 04:36 PM
the fucking Warriors. ugh. That DC and Hill's reasoning for it. Annoys me so much.

dom56
06-22-12, 05:07 PM
Das Boot - prefer the theatrical cut as the DC is too long and sometime boring.

Spottedfeather
06-22-12, 05:08 PM
So you never pause a movie to go to the bathroom, answer the phone, refill your drink, etc? Cause that breaks the flow of a movie too.

No, I don't. If I know it would be around the time that I normally go to the bathroom, I won't watch anything because I hate to stop watching.

That said, the digital copies of the LOTR:EE are all one file. If you had the digital copies of these films, would you watch them then?

No, I wouldn't watch them. They're digital copies. I don't believe in digital copies. It's incredibly stupid to spend all that money on high definition blu-rays then turn around and watch inferior quality copies. If you have the blu-rays, just watch the blu-rays. That's what blu-ray drives in laptops are for.

Solid Snake
06-22-12, 05:11 PM
Do you understand why they're split though?

I don't necessarily agree w/ it..but I understand why.

Spottedfeather
06-22-12, 08:19 PM
No, there's no reason for them to be split. I'm sure that there is enough space on a blu-ray for the whole thing to be on one disc.

Mondo Kane
06-22-12, 11:17 PM
the fucking Warriors. ugh. That DC and Hill's reasoning for it. Annoys me so much.

The 2 occasions where I perferred the animation:
1) The animated freeze-frame on Luther after throwing a fit with the candy-bar girl. The end of this scene always came off as one of the more goofy moments to me in the theatrical cut. But the Director's Cut gives the viewer the impression that Luther isn't finished with her yet...And something more brutal could possibly be in store.
2) The transition of the animated subway into a real subway when it arrives in Coney. Just beautiful art, IMO.

Dan
06-22-12, 11:36 PM
No, there's no reason for them to be split. I'm sure that there is enough space on a blu-ray for the whole thing to be on one disc.

Compiled from info around the web:

Each of the Extended Edition movies require more than 50GB. Compressing them to ‘under 50GB’ would have degraded the quality of the picture and sound track.
Each movie has a DTS HD-MA 6.1 Soundtrack.
Each movie disc includes 4 additional commentary sound tracks: Director & Writers, the Design Team, the Production and Post Production Teams and Cast commentaries.
Runtimes:
The Fellowship of the Ring - 200 minutes (3 hours, 20 minutes)
The Two Towers - 214 minutes (3 hours, 34 minutes)
The Return of the King - 240 minutes (4 hours)

For films of that length, with such extensive special effects, movement, etc., they are already hard enough to compress. And that's just the video. Throw on a DTS-HD MA track and FOUR commentaries... and you're stretching that disc space very very thin.

Refusing to watch them because they're each split onto two discs is insane.

Jay G.
06-22-12, 11:50 PM
No, there's no reason for the [LOTR EE films] to be split. I'm sure that there is enough space on a blu-ray for the whole thing to be on one disc.
There isn't. a dual-layer Blu-ray can hold about 46GB of data. LOTR:FOTR EE uses about 67GB of data across the two discs. And that's the shortest movie.
http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20110717151301AAEoUkZ

Solid Snake
06-23-12, 08:34 AM
Exactly. The compression alone would give us horrid quality for the format. I don't like it...but it's the only way and I'm fine w/ it for the reason it is. I'm not going to bitch about it if what I want NOW would give me inferior quality. Fuck that.

Why So Blu?
06-23-12, 04:41 PM
No, I don't. If I know it would be around the time that I normally go to the bathroom, I won't watch anything because I hate to stop watching.



No, I wouldn't watch them. They're digital copies. I don't believe in digital copies. It's incredibly stupid to spend all that money on high definition blu-rays then turn around and watch inferior quality copies. If you have the blu-rays, just watch the blu-rays. That's what blu-ray drives in laptops are for.

Thank you. If you want to do something to pass the time then read a book or get an e-reader.

darkhawk
06-23-12, 06:38 PM
Extended:
LOTR Trilogy
Chronicles of Narnia: Lion, Witch and the Wardrobe
Gladiator
Terminator 2
Das Boot


Theatrical:
The Exorcist

JimRochester
07-01-12, 09:42 AM
Ran across another one. One of my first BR discs was The Patriot with Mel Gibson. Only available as an extended cut. Found it painfully long. Don't even think it was that much longer, but what they added didn't seem to do anything for the story but make me keep checking the clock

dhmac
07-01-12, 12:51 PM
Extended:
Das Boot

I actually prefer the Director's Cut of Das Boot (The Boat). I think the Extended Cut / Uncut Miniseries Version (which is almost 5 hours) was a bit bloated and basically just too long. I think the Theatrical Cut (2:29) was too short which caused some choppy inconsistencies here and there. So I think the Directors' Cut (3:29) is the overall best version of this great war film.