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Matthew Chmiel
06-08-12, 02:20 PM
Fox‘s R-rated Prometheus continued its international strength in North America by debuting to $3.561M in midnight screenings at 1,368 locations. That’s a $2,603 per-location average. Fox called it “a fantastic start” this morning. The midnight numbers include $1.03M from 294 IMAX theaters. Prometheus already has amassed $51M from overseas territories that opened last weekend. On Friday, the Ridley Scott sci-fi pic had strong opening-day numbers out of Australia, Korea and Taiwan according to the studio.

Meanwhile, DreamWorks Animation‘s Madagascar 3: Europe’s Most Wanted also stampeded out of the gate with early box office results internationally today. This weekend the family fare opens in 28 markets, including Russia, China, France, Korea, Brazil, and Mexico day-and-date with the U.S. and Canada. Russia logged the biggest opening day for any animated release ever, distributor Paramount announced today — $3.7M from 881 locations on Thursday. Korea, which was having a national holiday, took in $1.9M from 502 locations on opening day Wednesday. Also that day, France debuted with $1.9M from 685 venues. Because of a lack of kid movies in the marketplace for some time, the pent-up demand should mean a $50M-$60M result for Madagascar 3. Prometheus should take in $40+M. MORE LATER.
If it did $3.6 million at midnight, wouldn't that mean its got a bigger shot at doing more $40 million? I suspected this weekend would have Prometheus taking over the number one spot with Madagascar being two.

Mr. Cinema
06-08-12, 02:31 PM
The predictions mostly seem to be $47-$50 million for Prometheus. I think it'll manage to break the $50 mil barrier.

RichC2
06-08-12, 02:34 PM
R-Rated movies (especially horror themed ones) tend to be heavily front loaded and drop on Saturdays. Kid/family movies tend to increase substantially on Saturday.

Mr. Cinema
06-08-12, 02:36 PM
R-Rated movies (especially horror themed ones) tend to be heavily front loaded and drop on Saturdays. Kid/family movies tend to increase substantially on Saturday.
Yeah, I could easily see Madagascar winning. It's 90 minutes and playing in roughly 900 more theaters.

RichC2
06-08-12, 02:36 PM
^ Even if it wasn't, it's still a PG rated family movie in Summer.

boredsilly
06-08-12, 02:43 PM
I'm really surprised Prometheus has an R rating. There is very little in that movie to justifying it, to the point where I'm surprised they didn't cut the few things that pushed them over the edge to get a PG-13 rating.

Deftones
06-08-12, 02:44 PM
Just saw Madagascar with the boy. Much more enjoyable than the 2nd one. He enjoyed it, too, so it was worth seeing.

davidh777
06-08-12, 03:06 PM
Apparently I've been missing out on the complaining by avoiding the two Prometheus threads. Maybe I'll catch up after I've seen the movie. :lol:

Mr. Cinema
06-08-12, 03:14 PM
Prometheus' foreign total is $46 million.

RichC2
06-08-12, 03:18 PM
1. Prometheus - $55.5 million
2. Madagascar 3 - $53.8 million
3. Snow White - $28.7 million (-49%)
4. MIB 3 - $15.2 million (-46%)
5. The Avengers - $11.6 million (-43%)

^-- BOM's estimates for this weekend

Troy Stiffler
06-08-12, 05:23 PM
I'm really surprised Prometheus has an R rating. There is very little in that movie to justifying it, to the point where I'm surprised they didn't cut the few things that pushed them over the edge to get a PG-13 rating.

I heard this and get the feeling that they're just catering to online chatter. If it were PG-13, it'd be watered down mainstream nonsense. I think that Fox and Ridley have enough hip young folks around them to pay attention and cater to that stuff.

We should isolate a site (like this forum) and let pre-hype internet movie nerds dictate how a movie gets developed. I bet it'd be horrible. But then there would be no bitching about how it turns out and we'd have to eat our own words. Anybody got $50M? I'm broke this week. Maybe next week.

Supermallet
06-08-12, 07:45 PM
I'll say this, every IMAX show at my theater is sold out for the whole weekend, as was the midnight.

Solid Snake
06-08-12, 07:50 PM
I'd say the rating this film got was deserved. It wouldn't be appropriate for a PG-13. It pushed that rating enough to go R.

My theater at 11:45am for the 3D was about 75% full. It's the morning so some of us were in class. College age kids and mostly older adults (40-60s). Was a good crowd.

Matthew Chmiel
06-08-12, 11:18 PM
Any worries about a Summer 2012 slump are officially gone. Because today’s numbers and this weekend’s forecasts just keep getting better and better. Twentieth Century Fox‘s Avatar-savvy marketing that kept Ridley Scott’s sci-fi thriller under wraps really motivated moviegoers. Rival studios now say Prometheus is looking to open with a huge $26M Friday and $68M weekend. That’s rare indeed for an R-rated pic. But Fox, the studio that specializes in lowering expectations, disputes thos numbers. “There is no mathematical scenario I know of that we hit $68M. Even at $26M for today, we get to $66.5M – and there is nothing on this green earth that shows us hitting $26M today,” a Fox exec huffed at me. “I could see us doing $22M today which would likely get us to $56M.” No matter, a great result.

Meanwhile, DreamWorks Animation‘s Madagascar 3: Europe’s Most Wanted also is burning up the box office with a massive $18M Friday and $57M weekend according to current projections.That’s one of DreamWorks’ best results, benefitting from pent-up demand because of the lack of kid movies in the marketplace for some time. Prometheus in North America debuted to $3.561M in midnight screenings at 1,368 locations. That’s a $2,603 per-location average. Fox called it “a fantastic start”. The midnight numbers include $1.03M from 294 IMAX theaters. Coming into today, Prometheus already has amassed $51M from overseas territories that opened last weekend. Today the Ridley Scott sci-fi pic had strong opening-day numbers out of Australia, Korea and Taiwan, according to the studio.

Even if you didn't like the film, :thumbsup: to an R-rated picture having a $60-70 million opening weekend.

d2cheer
06-08-12, 11:51 PM
Even if you didn't like the film, :thumbsup: to an R-rated picture having a $60-70 million opening weekend.

Agree...and I did like Prometheus!

Jam Master Jay
06-09-12, 04:49 AM
I think Madagascar is going make a killing and take the top spot this weekend especially now that schools are out and there has not been a kids flick out in ages.

PenguinJoe
06-09-12, 04:58 AM
I'm just hoping Battleship breaks the 100 million mark.

Boba Fett
06-09-12, 05:15 AM
I'm really surprised Prometheus has an R rating. There is very little in that movie to justifying it, to the point where I'm surprised they didn't cut the few things that pushed them over the edge to get a PG-13 rating.

Yeah, I honestly felt only two scenes justified the R and neither was the "talked about" medpod scene.

fitprod
06-09-12, 10:30 AM
I'm just hoping Battleship breaks the 100 million mark.

Ha, ha, ha! Hitting the wacky weed early this morning, with a side of crack!

fitprod

Mr. Cinema
06-09-12, 10:44 AM
Boxoffice.com is showing these numbers, which are less than Deadline's early guess. The Cinemascore rating was a "B". I don't know how accurate those are in predicting weekend #2. Didn't MIB 3 have something along that grade? It held pretty well.

Saturday Update: 20th Century Fox reports that Prometheus took in a healthy $21.4 million on Friday. We're projecting $53.5 million for the weekend.

I'm still happy with those numbers for a sci-fi movie, regardless of its rating.

Charlie Goose
06-09-12, 10:57 AM
Prometheus' foreign total is $46 million.

Foreign money doesn't count.

USA! USA! USA!

islandclaws
06-09-12, 11:06 AM
Deadline:

1. Prometheus (Fox) NEW [3,396 Theaters] R
Friday $21M, Weekend $55M

2. Madagascar 3 (DreamWorks Anim/Paramount) NEW [4,258 Theaters] PG
Friday $21M, Weekend $58M

3. Snow White & The Huntsman (Universal) Week 2 [3,777 Theaters] PG13
Friday $7.3M (-64%), Weekend $23M, Cume $98.5M

4. Men In Black 3 (Sony) Week 3 [3,792 Theaters] PG13
Friday $4.3M, Weekend $15M, Cume $137M

5. The Avengers (Marvel/Disney) Week 6 [3,129 Theaters] PG13
Friday $3.3M, Weekend $12M, Cume $573M

6. Best Exotic Marigold (Fox Searchlight) Week 6 [1,298 Theaters] PG13
Friday $874K, Weekend $3.1M, Cume $30.9M

7. What To Expect When (Lionsgate) Week 4 [2,087 Theaters] PG13
Friday $850K, Weekend $2.7M, Cume $35.7

8. Battleship (Universal) Week 4 [1,954 Theaters] PG13
Friday $700K, Weekend $2.4M, Cume $60.0M

9. The Dictator (Paramount) Week 4 [1,651 Theaters] R
Friday $625K, Weekend $2.0M, Cume $50.1M

10. Dark Shadows (Warner Bros) Week 5 [1,550 Theaters] PG13
Friday $425K, Weekend $1.5M, Cume $73.9M

TomOpus
06-09-12, 11:11 AM
I'm just hoping Battleship breaks the 100 million mark.

Ha, ha, ha! Hitting the wacky weed early this morning, with a side of crack!

fitprodWhile it will struggle to make $80 million domestically, it is close to $300 million worldwide. And people wonder why studios embrace the overseas markets.

Supermallet
06-09-12, 01:44 PM
Well, according to some posters here, international markets pay for tickets in wooden chips, so their BO take doesn't count.

dan30oly
06-09-12, 08:58 PM
Well, according to some posters here, international markets pay for tickets in cat teeth, so their BO take doesn't count.

fixelated.

Mr. Cinema
06-10-12, 12:51 PM
<a href="http://s860.photobucket.com/albums/ab164/mrc-bd/?action=view&amp;current=boxoffice6-10.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i860.photobucket.com/albums/ab164/mrc-bd/boxoffice6-10.jpg" border="0" alt="boxoffice6-10"></a>

Prometheus tumbled nearly 25% on Saturday and then another 22% on Sunday. Still a solid opening, but I'm wondering how word of mouth will be now after it had such a sizable drop from Friday. Worldwide its around $141.5 million.

PopcornTreeCt
06-10-12, 12:55 PM
That's fucking sad.

Solid Snake
06-10-12, 12:58 PM
Yes, it is.

Why So Blu?
06-10-12, 01:00 PM
Well, it is a non rated R film that opened in 1,000 more screens than Prometheus, so it makes sense. It sucks, but it makes sense.

Mr. Cinema
06-10-12, 01:03 PM
Fox is claiming the budget to be $125 million. That probably doesn't include the heavy marketing. But if that's the case, the international numbers may end up being strong enough to where we will get part 2.

onebyone
06-10-12, 01:13 PM
I wish Prometheus had made a lot more, because I really enjoyed the film and want sequels. Plus, R rated hits make the movies a better place. It's still a solid opening though, and the way foreign markets go nuts for 3d, it should still be alright.

That said, it was always going to open in number 2. The kids haven't had anything to pile into for ages, Madagascar 3 timed its release well.

Jam Master Jay
06-10-12, 01:14 PM
"Prometheus" is the #1 movie in the country!*

*<small>#1 live action movie</small>

Solid Snake
06-10-12, 01:16 PM
Fox is claiming the budget to be $125 million. That probably doesn't include the heavy marketing. But if that's the case, the international numbers may end up being strong enough to where we will get part 2.

If it's really at $125 million. I'm amazed. High level tech work for sure. And if so. Well I can't wait for the next one..just fucking craft a better script. And get Lindelof away from it. Or get him to make the first draft....and then get someone better to rewrite it.

Dr. DVD
06-10-12, 01:20 PM
Was anyone truly surprised by this? I never once had any misconceptions that Prometheus would open#1 . I also knew it would have to rely on overseas $$ for the bulk of its earnings as big budget rated R movies always seem to struggle in the US, save for 300. $50 million is very impressive for a rated R movie in the summer IMO. Also, there is no way it only cost $125 million , unless Ridley Scott and Fox have really learned how to pinch pennies.

onebyone
06-10-12, 01:24 PM
Most articles I have seen are are crediting UK tax breaks (http://blogs.indiewire.com/theplaylist/weekend-box-office-madagascar-3d-bests-prometheus-solid-results-for-both-20120610) for the low 125 million dollar figure.

Tom Creo
06-10-12, 01:36 PM
I would've never guessed that Snow White would have a chance at beating Prometheus at domestic take for the summer. lol Funny how things work.

fumanstan
06-10-12, 01:37 PM
Box Office Mojo's numbers show that Madagascar 3 was also in about 1000 more theaters; their screen averages are about the same.

tommyp007
06-10-12, 01:45 PM
Took my 4 year old daughter to see Madagascar last night, and it was packed. Really cute film (I haven't seen the first 2). Hopefully, I can get out to see Prometheus soon.

Supermallet
06-10-12, 01:57 PM
If it's really at $125 million. I'm amazed. High level tech work for sure. And if so. Well I can't wait for the next one..just fucking craft a better script. And get Lindelof away from it. Or get him to make the first draft....and then get someone better to rewrite it.

Keep Lindelof away from it. Hell, keep Scott away from it, too. Give it to James Cameron. :)

Patman
06-10-12, 01:59 PM
It'd be cool if they could get James Cameron for Prometheus II, and then Fincher for Prometheus III...

Supermallet
06-10-12, 02:02 PM
Actually, forget Cameron. Get Joss Whedon to write and direct Prometheus II. We might be able to salvage this series yet.

Hokeyboy
06-10-12, 02:07 PM
I would've never guessed that Snow White would have a chance at beating Prometheus at domestic take for the summer. lol Funny how things work.
Are you kidding? That's a real easy bet to make. Your average tweenie girl is gonna be infinitely more attracted to some PG-13 fairy tale-fantasy-adventure with the Twilight dude in it over a R-rated sci-fi movie directed by some old guy that's a prequel for some old movie. Or something. And that's your target audience if you wanna make the most money. Avengers wouldn't have made a ZILLION dollars if they didn't have something exciting for the broads.

Sad but true. :shrug:

WeylandYutani
06-10-12, 02:13 PM
Actually, forget Cameron. Get Joss Whedon to write and direct Prometheus II. We might be able to salvage this series yet.

Whedon has no business being anywhere near an Alien film. As if this even needs to be said.

Deftones
06-10-12, 02:18 PM
Your average tweenie girl is gonna be infinitely more attracted to some PG-13 fairy tale-fantasy-adventure with the Twilight dude in it over a R-rated sci-fi movie directed by some old guy that's a prequel for some old movie.

I don't think Kristin Stewart is particularly attractive, but I've never seen anyone call her a dude. :lol:

RichC2
06-10-12, 02:22 PM
Perfectly normal Fri-to-Sat drop for a hyped R film, especially a horror oriented one (I tend to read these drops a little less severely than most as the midnight showings (3.6m) tends to skew the entire opening day numbers, especially for next Friday). WOM has been solid so far, so we'll see how it plays out.

Supermallet
06-10-12, 02:25 PM
Whedon has no business being anywhere near an Alien film. As if this even needs to be said.

Whedon's script was continually interfered with by the Fox Studio suits. I say let post-Avengers Joss Whedon do whatever he wants with Prometheus II. No studio interference.

Hokeyboy
06-10-12, 02:29 PM
It's hilarious how people assume that what a screenwriter submitted must automatically transcribe to what was onscreen. ;)


That said, Whedon's "frog struck by lightning" line is indefensible. Yes, the director and actress screwed up the context and delivery bigtime... but it was still awful in it's original intention.

Supermallet
06-10-12, 02:33 PM
Sure, that's a terrible line, but was also written for an entirely different movie and is one line among thousands or hundreds of thousands that Whedon has written.

RichC2
06-10-12, 02:44 PM
Whedon did a horrible job with all the off planet stuff in Avengers (it was pitifully cheesy) which is all I can really compare his Sci-fi work with (that and Serenity, but the less said about that generic snoozer the better). Actually a lot of the movie was pretty cheesy and disappointingly, Stark seemed like a family friendly spoof of himself, not that he was ever hard edge in the Iron Man movies, but he seemed off in Avengers. Movie itself wasn't boring, just cheesy.

I guess if that's what you're looking for in a movie, then I can see why you'd prefer him take over for Scott. I'm not a big fan of that style. If we're going that route I'd rather just have Luc Besson get back in Fifth Element mode and do Prometheuses.

WeylandYutani
06-10-12, 03:16 PM
Whedon's script was continually interfered with by the Fox Studio suits. I say let post-Avengers Joss Whedon do whatever he wants with Prometheus II. No studio interference.

No it wasn't. The studio never took his script and rewrote it against his wishes or do any Alien 3 horseshit on that end. He was given some guidelines to follow as far as what needed to be in the script(ie. Ripley) before he wrote it and asked to write several different endings, one in which Whedon had the Newborn on Earth at the end sprouting wings and flying off into the sky setting up Alien 5. There was little "interference" on Whedon. His last draft for the film, which can be read completely on the Anthology set, is pretty close to what ended up in the film including all the dialogue and typical Whedon one-liners: "Who do I have to fuck to get off this boat?", "Must be a chick thing". The studio didn't force him to put lines like those in and that kind of meta-humour has no business in an Alien film. Point is, none of his drafts were very good and the basic story element of bringing Ripley back from the dead doomed the film from the very start.

Supermallet
06-10-12, 03:22 PM
And it was still better than Prometheus. :shrug:

foofighters7
06-10-12, 03:34 PM
Actually, forget Cameron. Get Joss Whedon to write and direct Prometheus II. We might be able to salvage this series yet.

Keep Cameron away, yes. Whedon has made one film that is pretty good, that's it. I wouldn't have him anywhere near it either. Scott was and IS the best choice. I don't need Whedon to come in and bubblegum it up.

oh and Prometheus was BY FAR MUCH BETTER than the shitty Snow White movie. The Twilight Dude ruined an otherwise mediocre film.

Tom Creo
06-10-12, 03:34 PM
Are you kidding? That's a real easy bet to make. Your average tweenie girl is gonna be infinitely more attracted to some PG-13 fairy tale-fantasy-adventure with the Twilight dude in it over a R-rated sci-fi movie directed by some old guy that's a prequel for some old movie. Or something. And that's your target audience if you wanna make the most money. Avengers wouldn't have made a ZILLION dollars if they didn't have something exciting for the broads.

Sad but true. :shrug:

I was just going by what people said about Snow White/Huntsman on these boards. Quite a few said it would be a bomb (it still might be, I dunno) and were circle jerkin' each other over Prometheus.

Supermallet
06-10-12, 03:38 PM
Alex Proyas for Prometheus II. That's my final offer.

Artman
06-10-12, 03:40 PM
Solid start, looks like low 100's domestic, 300+ foreign.

RichC2
06-10-12, 03:43 PM
Alex Proyas for Prometheus II. That's my final offer.

That's the first alternate I'd accept, as long as he doesn't touch the screenplay.

WeylandYutani
06-10-12, 03:57 PM
And it was still better than Prometheus. :shrug:

In Bizarro world perhaps, where grass is green and water is dry.

Dragon Tattoo
06-10-12, 04:18 PM
In Bizarro world perhaps, where grass is green and water is dry.

:lol:

Supermallet
06-10-12, 04:57 PM
In Bizarro world perhaps, where grass is green and water is dry.

Ha, joke's on you, grass IS green in this world!

Solid Snake
06-10-12, 05:11 PM
funny..not only does Weyland Yutani fuck up in the movies..but in real life too.

WeylandYutani
06-10-12, 05:17 PM
Ha, joke's on you, grass IS green in this world!erm, I know

Groucho
06-10-12, 05:33 PM
I don't think Kristin Stewart is particularly attractive, but I've never seen anyone call her a dude. :lol:Apparently you missed the huge internet debate when the first trailer for Panic Room came out.

Mr. Cinema
06-10-12, 06:47 PM
MIB 3 now has a worldwide total of $487.6 million.

Dr. DVD
06-10-12, 08:52 PM
MIB 3 now has a worldwide total of $487.6 million.

Thus lending more credence to the argument that worldwide grosses are relevant. I think overseas grosses are the reason many stars remain pertinent and some franchises still get further installments.

d2cheer
06-10-12, 09:22 PM
Thus lending more credence to the argument that worldwide grosses are relevant. I think overseas grosses are the reason many stars remain pertinent and some franchises still get further installments.

In the case of Prometheus lets hope so because it may take that for part 2.

Dr. DVD
06-10-12, 10:17 PM
In the case of Prometheus lets hope so because it may take that for part 2.

I don't see how a $50 million gross for a rated R movie during summer is need to be pessimistic. It's already the highest opening for that rating this year. It just seems an R is harder to get over in America than elsewhere.

Artman
06-11-12, 12:54 AM
I don't see how a $50 million gross for a rated R movie during summer is need to be pessimistic. It's already the highest opening for that rating this year. It just seems an R is harder to get over in America than elsewhere.

High expectations can be a double edged sword... yes, it did well... but now more than ever, the first wknd can make as much as half a film's total gross. (especially for genre, franchise pics, which this film is) It's to the point where you can pretty much target how a film will play after it's first few days. It seems the movie's headed for 400+ worldwide, which is acceptable given it's 200m (including marketing) budget. But the studio will have to consider the audience reaction on whether to continue with another installment. I'd be more confident if it makes 450-500, but as of now it's not a slam-dunk.

Burnt Thru
06-11-12, 02:48 AM
funny..not only does Weyland Yutani fuck up in the movies..but in real life too.
facepalm.

d2cheer
06-11-12, 07:32 AM
I would say that Prometheus needs to make at least 150 million domestic to get a part 2. That seems to be the bar for several recent ones like X-Men First class, GI Joe and a few others around that amount.

Dr. DVD
06-11-12, 10:02 AM
I would say that Prometheus needs to make at least 150 million domestic to get a part 2. That seems to be the bar for several recent ones like X-Men First class, GI Joe and a few others around that amount.

FWIW, I'll live if they don't make another one. This one didn't really leave me with any burning questions.

davidh777
06-11-12, 11:08 AM
This thread lives up to its title :lol:

Mr. Cinema
06-11-12, 03:07 PM
Looks like Prometheus did a little better than the estimate with $51 million. Worldwide is $142.5 million.

Boxoffice.com lists the "total budget" at $180 million.

Daytripper
06-11-12, 03:18 PM
Looks like Prometheus did a little better than the estimate with $51 million. Worldwide is $142.5 million.

Boxoffice.com lists the "total budget" at $180 million.

Where did you see the 51M gross? Just curious. Boxoffice.com and boxofficemojo.com still show weekend estimates.

Edit: Nevermind. Boxoffice.com just updated.

Mr. Cinema
06-12-12, 02:44 PM
Prometheus earned $5.2 million on Monday.

d2cheer
06-16-12, 10:33 AM
Ouch...looks like Prometheus will drop about 65-70% this weekend.

Someone else can start a new thread about it. And Rock of Ages and Sandlers latest bomb as well.