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RocShemp
06-04-12, 03:27 PM
Saw this over at Blu-ray.com (http://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?p=6237404#post6237404)

Low-res leaked screens but you get the idea ;)

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7097/7336664216_2b848b0269_o.jpg

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7074/7336665728_1d2d38549d.jpg http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7080/7336664698_197ec07604.jpg

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8027/7336664380_5a9d9ceeba.jpg http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7074/7336664546_ed3bbc1ea2.jpg

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7231/7336664906_d8a023a564.jpg http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8163/7336665024_8900322407.jpg

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7228/7336665204_d8bab1f865.jpg http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7103/7336665520_4d70e1a61d.jpg

Smooth ears. :)

Groucho
06-04-12, 03:29 PM
I can't get my snark meter up high enough to sass the first boss. Any tips?

RichC2
06-04-12, 03:57 PM
I wonder if you have to pretend cut the first baddies balls off.

Liver&Onions
06-04-12, 05:25 PM
Yes please! Love Quantic.

Decker
06-04-12, 05:37 PM
Eh, looks too much like a rip-off of The Last Of Us.


:sarcasm:

Drexl
06-04-12, 07:09 PM
Is the guy in the 4th picture Taran Killam from Saturday Night Live?

RocShemp
06-04-12, 10:44 PM
Eh, looks too much like a rip-off of The Last Of Us.


:sarcasm:

Funny enough, prior to this announcement, Naughty Dog released a revised trailer of The Last Of Us. They redesigned the little girl so she no longer looks like Ellen Page:


http://media.officialplaystationmagazine.co.uk/files/2012/05/The-LAst-of-us-trailer-1.jpg

SCEA released two updated-Ellie shots from the debut trailer so you can directly compare.

Her head's larger and the silhouette looks a bit rounder because of the pulled-back hair, eyebrows are slightly taller and don't taper off to such a sharp point. Her lips, nose and structure around the nose and eyes are a little plumper too. There's a bit more curviness on the neck to shoulders too. It all adds up to make her look a bit younger and head more proportionate with the rest of her body.

vvv december 2011
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7025/6491305863_ef1fcb8097_b.jpg
vvv may 2012
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7102/7210746784_179f59fa26_b.jpg
vvv december 2011
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7032/6491305585_c5f56dbc44_b.jpg
vvv may 2012
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7231/7210747156_5c3ef8eec8_b.jpg

Perhaps they caught wind of this game being made and who was the lead? :shrug:

Drexl
06-04-12, 11:44 PM
Now it kinda looks like Jennifer Lawrence.

19K
06-05-12, 08:51 AM
Other than the girl looking like Ellen Page, I'm not sure what makes it a ripoff of the Last of Us. Especially since the girl in Beyond:Two Souls actually IS Ellen Page.


<iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/4NEup8y0g-Q?rel=0" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Decker
06-05-12, 09:22 AM
It was just a joke about how much Ellie in The Last Of Us looked like Ellen Page. Nothing more than that.

Raul3
06-05-12, 09:41 AM
Looks interesting.

And of course being Quantic Dream you know what to expect, for better or worse.

RocShemp
06-07-12, 05:27 PM
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glassdragon
06-07-12, 06:05 PM
Looks interesting.

And of course being Quantic Dream you know what to expect, for better or worse.

You know, as long as someone isn't running around yelling JASON or SHAUN for 20 fucking minutes I'll be happy.

RocShemp
06-07-12, 06:11 PM
You know, as long as someone isn't running around yelling JASON or SHAUN for 20 fucking minutes I'll be happy.

Looks like we'll be getting lots of AIDEN instead. ;)

bippitty
06-07-12, 06:46 PM
I can't get my snark meter up high enough to sass the first boss. Any tips?

Fresh out of tips. I'm sure Lewis Carroll could fix you up, though.

edstein
06-07-12, 06:57 PM
Graphics look good but I have no interest in an interactive movie.

RocShemp
06-07-12, 07:30 PM
Graphics look good but I have no interest in an interactive movie.

I agree on both counts but, assuming the story doesn't go off the rails, I'll get it when the price drops.

Dragon Tattoo
06-07-12, 08:30 PM
Graphics look good but I have no interest in an interactive movie.

I hope you don't own Uncharted 1, 2 or 3, then.

edstein
06-07-12, 11:42 PM
I hope you don't own Uncharted 1, 2 or 3, then.

I played 1 and 2. Not an interactive move at all.

Dragon Tattoo
06-09-12, 04:23 PM
I played 1 and 2. Not an interactive move at all.

Yea, right.

asianxcore
06-10-12, 12:54 AM
Loved Indigo Prophecy and Heavy Rain, so I'm interested in this.

RocShemp
06-11-12, 01:04 PM
I hope you don't own Uncharted 1, 2 or 3, then.

I played 1 and 2. Not an interactive move at all.

Yea, right.

Although linear as hell (even the platforming is pretty much on the rails), the Uncharted games are still very much third person shooters. And though there's 90 minutes of cinematics in each sequel (the first game only had about 60 minutes), you spend more time actually playing than watching.

Let's face it, these Quantic Dream games are nothing more than gorgeous QTE games. And there's really no shame in that. For some, that's worth the $60 price tag. For others, it's only worth a $20 price tag.

RichC2
06-11-12, 01:48 PM
It's a valid point, the crappy Simon-style puzzles in Indigo Prophecy were more aggravating than anything, the only real puzzle in Heavy Rain was a puzzle through an electrical grid.

Still, these games ooze atmosphere, and I love that.

RocShemp
07-13-12, 08:04 AM
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starseed1981
07-13-12, 11:01 AM
Well, Heavy Rain was one of my favorite titles of this generation. So I'm definitley in for this one on day one.

RocShemp
07-15-12, 12:56 AM
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Well, Heavy Rain was one of my favorite titles of this generation. So I'm definitley in for this one on day one.

I just finished my first playthrough of HR and enjoyed it more than I could ever have imagined. So I am more excited than ever for this game.

RocShemp
07-16-12, 07:49 AM
This is really long (42 minutes and 34 seconds):

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RocShemp
07-19-12, 10:21 PM
<iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/c_mEwoZEbZs" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

RocShemp
04-27-13, 09:51 PM
Didn't know that Willem Dafoe was in this as well.

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/91skZR6dJVL._SL1500_.jpg

RocShemp
04-27-13, 09:54 PM
Now this is a script!

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BIjue5PCAAAojuy.jpg

RocShemp
04-27-13, 10:11 PM
<iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/xzUwNi0bhzk" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

RocShemp
04-29-13, 11:04 AM
<iframe width="640" height="360" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/bElvOkiHsps?feature=player_embedded" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Tarantino
04-29-13, 11:29 AM
Ellen! Ellen! Ellllllllen! Ellllllen! Elllllen!

RocShemp
04-29-13, 12:52 PM
Ellen! Ellen! Ellllllllen! Ellllllen! Elllllen!

I found that part so unintentionally hilarious in Heavy Rain. Even Madison's screams (when you press X) during the bit with "Doctor Death" cracked me up.

Liver&Onions
04-29-13, 04:12 PM
Can't wait to play/watch this.

Groucho
04-29-13, 04:38 PM
Since this is a sequel to "Hard Rain" maybe it should have been called "Light Drizzle".

Liver&Onions
04-29-13, 07:30 PM
Hey "funny" Groucho, it's not a sequel.

spainlinx0
04-29-13, 07:47 PM
Since this is a sequel to "Hard Rain" maybe it should have been called "Light Drizzle".

Why not Chubby Rain?

edstein
04-29-13, 10:20 PM
Chocolate Rain?

RocShemp
04-30-13, 08:17 AM
Why not Chubby Rain?

http://images.hollywood.com/cms/300x375/5267971.jpg

mattysemo247
08-19-13, 09:59 AM
GameStop will have a Special Edition for $59.99

Exclusive Steelbook Premium Packaging
Extensive Behind The Scenes Video Features
Soundtrack
Dynamic PS3 Theme
PSN Avatar Pack
GameStop exclusive 30-minute playable additional scene DLC

http://www.gamestop.com/gs/images/bonus/Beyond_SteelBook_F_SELG.jpg

I haven't preordered anything from GameStop in forever. Is it still $5 to reserve and pay the rest once you pick it up?

flashburn
08-19-13, 10:04 AM
Fuck, I guess I'm buying something from Gamestop then. First time in years.

Any coupon codes to help soften the blow?

Michael Corvin
08-19-13, 10:11 AM
Cool case.

RocShemp
08-19-13, 09:08 PM
Fuck, I guess I'm buying something from Gamestop then. First time in years.

Any coupon codes to help soften the blow?

It's a shame my Amazon Prime account doesn't work on their UK site. If it did, I'd get the SE there (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Beyond-Two-Souls-Special-PS3/dp/B00CMOMF78/ref=sr_1_1?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1376960794&sr=1-1&keywords=beyond+two+souls).

RocShemp
10-05-13, 10:50 PM
Anyone else play the demo? It is fantastic. They basically took everything they did right in Heavy Rain, improved on it, and made character navigation/control far more intuitive (you use the analog sticks instead of using the R2 button to move forward). The graphics are pure eye candy.

fumanstan
10-05-13, 10:53 PM
Heavy Rain is one of those PS3 games that i've been meaning to pick up as a reason why I bought the system. I'll give this demo a shot.

RocShemp
10-05-13, 11:08 PM
Heavy Rain is one of those PS3 games that i've been meaning to pick up as a reason why I bought the system. I'll give this demo a shot.

Be sure to play it multiple times. There are branching paths and multiple things in the environment with which you can interact.

flashburn
10-06-13, 07:01 AM
I'm glad this thread was bumped. Not only did I almost forget it was coming out next week, I just preordered it from Amazon forgetting about the Special Edition from Gamestop. Hopefully I don't have any issues just picking up a copy on my way home from work.

RocShemp
10-06-13, 02:58 PM
I'm glad this thread was bumped. Not only did I almost forget it was coming out next week, I just preordered it from Amazon forgetting about the Special Edition from Gamestop. Hopefully I don't have any issues just picking up a copy on my way home from work.

Will GameStop let you purchase the Special Edition without having pre-ordered?

flashburn
10-06-13, 03:27 PM
Will GameStop let you purchase the Special Edition without having pre-ordered?

Ugh... I hope so? God, I hate Gamestop.

edit: Might have to Pre-order...
http://blog.us.playstation.com/2013/09/27/last-chance-to-pre-order-beyond-two-souls/

I'll see if tomorrow isn't too late then. It's stupid that I can't pre-order for in store pickup though.

RocShemp
10-06-13, 03:49 PM
I delayed on getting the SE from Amazon UK and now that's no longer available. I hate giving GameStop my money but...

EDIT: I'm looking at a total of $69.53 if I order it online. :sad:

RocShemp
10-06-13, 04:02 PM
Trailer for the SE:

<iframe width="640" height="360" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/DstIAxbskaY?feature=player_embedded" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

flashburn
10-06-13, 04:09 PM
Just got back from GameStop where I begrudgingly placed my pre-order.

RocShemp
10-06-13, 04:12 PM
Oh and I love that their 10% off promo code, 10FWT, just happens to not work with this game since the code just happens to expire the very day the game would ship. :rolleyes:

RocShemp
10-06-13, 04:40 PM
Just got back from GameStop where I begrudgingly placed my pre-order.

How much did it set you back?

flashburn
10-06-13, 04:45 PM
How much did it set you back?

A little under $64. Stupid sales tax!

RocShemp
10-06-13, 04:47 PM
A little under $64. Stupid sales tax!

That's what I'm looking at as well over the website since GameStop agreed to honor the coupon code. I really hate sales tax. Wish the SE was available through the US Amazon website. No sales tax plus Prime.

edstein
10-06-13, 08:17 PM
Is this game just an interactive movie?

RocShemp
10-06-13, 08:19 PM
Is this game just an interactive movie?

Yes and no. Kind of difficult to describe. I'd suggest playing the demo. That's the best way to see what it's like.

Liver&Onions
10-06-13, 08:30 PM
Yes and no. Kind of difficult to describe. I'd suggest playing the demo. That's the best way to see what it's like.

I've heard that the demo can turn some people off - because they are expecting something a little more traditional, rather than the style of adventure game this is. Doesn't bug me though - I've had this one on my list since it was announced and I'm looking forward to Tuesday night!

RocShemp
10-06-13, 08:42 PM
I've heard that the demo can turn some people off - because they are expecting something a little more traditional, rather than the style of adventure game this is. Doesn't bug me though - I've had this one on my list since it was announced and I'm looking forward to Tuesday night!

Yeah, adventure game is the best way to describe it. Except that the controls feel far more organic and intuitive than those of Heavy Rain (though some of its control elements still remain).

flashburn
10-06-13, 08:43 PM
I was a huge fan of Heavy Rain, and I've managed to avoid even watching a video of this game, so my only expectations of it is that it plays similarly to Heavy Rain and has a good story and great acting.

RocShemp
10-06-13, 08:51 PM
I was a huge fan of Heavy Rain, and I've managed to avoid even watching a video of this game, so my only expectations of it is that it plays similarly to Heavy Rain and has a good story and great acting.

It plays better than Heavy Rain. Although I had story and acting issues with that game, my main gripe was with the clunky controls. In point of fact, the demo of Heavy Rain turned me off to it and I never played the full game until the director's cut went on sale.

The demo of this game hooked me instantly and left me wanting more. The gameplay is much improved and the acting seems far better as well. I like the premise so I hope the actual story is also an improvement.

Liver&Onions
10-06-13, 09:22 PM
Glad to hear it! I loved heavy rain, so if this improves on that then hell yes.

Ocelot
10-07-13, 09:36 AM
I'm not going to spoil the game by playing the demo... HR is the only game I didn't read the trophy list before I play it and this game will be the second :). HR is a great game, the choices you make do have consequences (unlike Telltale's WD, it's a good game as well, just saying the choices you make in the game don't have the same kind of impact as in HR).

RocShemp
10-07-13, 09:52 AM
I'm not going to spoil the game by playing the demo... HR is the only game I didn't read the trophy list before I play it and this game will be the second :). HR is a great game, the choices you make do have consequences (unlike Telltale's WD, it's a good game as well, just saying the choices you make in the game don't have the same kind of impact as in HR).

The demo is strictly a gameplay demo. You can tell they chopped up entire sequences of the game just to highlight gameplay mechanics emphasized in the scenes chosen. The trailers are super spoilery by comparison.

I'm assuming the trophies for this game will all be hidden, as were the trophies for HR. So I doubt you'll get any spoilers there either.

RichC2
10-07-13, 09:58 AM
Yeah, this is basically a game I'll buy sight unseen. Why? Because the gameplay sucked in Fahrenheit and Heavy Rain (there was 1 actual puzzle in the entirety of Heavy Rain), it's about the mood and experience of having a dark, heavily atmospheric tale unfold.

If this company does anything right, it's atmosphere and music.

starseed1981
10-07-13, 10:34 AM
Just got my shipping confirmation from Amazon. Psyched!

Ocelot
10-07-13, 12:18 PM
The demo is strictly a gameplay demo. You can tell they chopped up entire sequences of the game just to highlight gameplay mechanics emphasized in the scenes chosen. The trailers are super spoilery by comparison.

I'm assuming the trophies for this game will all be hidden, as where the trophies for HR. So I doubt you'll get any spoilers there either.

Good point... I forgot about the trailer, lol.

RocShemp
10-07-13, 07:33 PM
Just got my shipping confirmation from Amazon. Psyched!

My Special Edition just shipped from GameStop. :banana:

mhg83
10-08-13, 09:28 AM
I was thinking of getting this but an embargo on release day is not a good sign. Will have to wait on this one.

RichC2
10-08-13, 09:32 AM
The New York Times gave it a horrible review but with a "but it was still interesting."

Beyond: Two Souls is a misstep for Mr. Cage and Quantic Dream, but its failings are not the result of the limitations of Mr. Cage’s preferred medium. That it is interesting at all hinges on its interactive nature. It would be one of the worst movies you’ve ever seen, even though Ms. Page and Mr. Dafoe give fine performances.

There’s still something mesmerizing about what Mr. Cage is trying to achieve, even if the gumbo endemic to his work is seasoned with too much awful and not enough wonderful this time around. I can’t help but look forward to playing whatever he makes next.

I'm still very curious to try it out.

RocShemp
10-08-13, 10:58 AM
Meh. The plot of Heavy Rain wasn't all that either and would have made for a shitty movie. It's the experience that made that game worthwhile.

RocShemp
10-08-13, 11:40 AM
IGN Review: 6.0 OKAY (http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/10/08/beyond-two-souls-review)

+Terrific performance from Page
+Beautiful world
– Choices feel inconsequential
– Unfocused plot
– Poor combat mechanics

That sounds a lot like Heavy Rain (albeit with better actors) to me. I'm still in.

RichC2
10-08-13, 11:45 AM
The thing about plots is they don't have to be good overall, as long as you constantly want to know what's happening next.

Decker
10-08-13, 12:01 PM
It's at the top of my Gamefly queue. Hope I get it shipped later today. Will have to wait and see...

flashburn
10-08-13, 12:17 PM
Wow, I'm a bit surprised how poor the reviews are. Whatever, I still can't wait to pick it up later today.

RocShemp
10-08-13, 12:24 PM
I wish my copy were here but UPS is scheduled to deliver it tomorrow "By End of Day". :(

Groucho
10-08-13, 12:30 PM
Looks like a trip to the bargain bin for me!

Liver&Onions
10-08-13, 12:37 PM
Still looking forward to it, I love "interactive movies" and even chose to play LA Noire in a similar fashion, I let my partner always drive so I could listen/watch the stories happen/be told. And yeah, Heavy Rain was shit on - but I still put that up at the top of my gaming experiences this generation.

mhg83
10-08-13, 12:40 PM
5/10 from destructoid. Jim Sterling ripped the game to pieces in his review. The one positive he said was the story is better and dialogue more realistic than HR.

RocShemp
10-08-13, 12:41 PM
Still looking forward to it, I love "interactive movies" and even chose to play LA Noire in a similar fashion, I let my partner always drive so I could listen/watch the stories happen/be told. And yeah, Heavy Rain was shit on - but I still put that up at the top of my gaming experiences this generation.

I did the same in LA Noir. :lol:

Liver&Onions
10-08-13, 12:41 PM
Jim Sterling is a douche.

Ocelot
10-08-13, 01:25 PM
My Special Edition just shipped from GameStop. :banana:

Just picked up my SE copy from GS, will be playing tonight :)

RocShemp
10-08-13, 01:27 PM
Just picked up my SE copy from GS, will be playing tonight :)

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m84ah9GK4G1r76lino1_250.gif

Enjoy. ;)

starseed1981
10-08-13, 02:10 PM
Jim Sterling is a terrible reviewer. He basically excessively bashes everything to get more readership. It's high-school level journalism at its best.

RichC2
10-08-13, 02:14 PM
This game has a 74.58% average on Gamerankings with 32 reviews. Highest score is a 100% (5 out of 5), lowest is a 4 out of 10.

Gamespot gave it a 9.0 out of 10.
IGN gave it a 6.0 out of 10.

For comparisons sake, Heavy Rain has a 89.23% average with 81 reviews, Indigo Prophecy/Fahrenheit is around 85%.

It's a rarity to have reviews this all over the place for a videogame.

flashburn
10-08-13, 02:40 PM
I'm almost positive I'll love this game then, since Heavy Rain stuck out as a highlight this generation for me. One more hour to go!

starseed1981
10-08-13, 02:42 PM
Yeah, agreed with Flashburn. Nearly everything that polarizes a critical audience I end up loving (I'm winking at you Deadly Premonition).

bippitty
10-08-13, 04:13 PM
I had an appointment today that happened to put me near a Gamestop. They had a bunch of them on the shelf behind the counter.

Me: Beyond: Two Souls.
GS: Do you want to buy one.
Me: Yes.
GS: Did you pre-order?
Me: No.
GS: Do you want to pre-order anything?
Me: No.

They rang it up and I was out the door. Probably took less time than if I'd pre-ordered.

flashburn
10-08-13, 06:18 PM
My review after playing this game for about an hour:

This... game... is... AMAZING!

Spoiler for those of you who have gotten past the birthday party.
Holy shit, getting revenge on those little fucks was one of the most intense moments I've ever had playing a video game before. Amazing.

fumanstan
10-08-13, 08:41 PM
Ok, don't have the game but might play it down the line when it's cheaper, but this is funny.

http://kotaku.com/photoshops-ruin-ellen-pages-video-game-in-the-best-way-1442734235

wmansir
10-08-13, 08:50 PM
Without being spoilery, what are you guys' thoughts on the flashback structure of the story telling?

My thoughts, which don't spoil any plot, gameplay, etc but just talk about the narrative structure.

I'm mixed on it myself. I don't know if setting things chronologically would have worked better, and I like how each scene is meaningful and isn't rushed. It's like a novel in that regard. A movie or even most TV shows don't have the luxury of allowing events to breath like they do in this game.

On the other hand, I also feel they could be doing more to make connections between each scene. There are a lot of scenes which fill in plot details, but I don't think they are doing a good job displaying traits and then filling in character gaps. Considering how often the story goes back to Jodie's childhood and adolescence it seems fertile ground for such moments.

Canis Firebrand
10-09-13, 09:14 AM
My review after playing this game for about an hour:

This... game... is... AMAZING!

Spoiler for those of you who have gotten past the birthday party.
Holy shit, getting revenge on those little fucks was one of the most intense moments I've ever had playing a video game before. Amazing.

I ended the night a little past that part as well. I agree that choosing revenge on those party guests was intense. While there were no deaths, there certainly was a Carrie level of revenge in throwing chairs at them to knock them out, starting a fire on the curtains and just moving/pushing things around the room to freak them out.

I didn't really know much about the game going in and only picked it up because I got it for $7 from Amazon using their trade in deal and $20 credit the gave for ordering the game. The interactive movie aspect is kind of neat. Though you can certainly tell the game doesn't want you to deviate too much from the path it expects. When I am in control, I tried to explore more of an area only to have the character steered away or the screen dims a bit and you are forced to go the direction the game expects. I also am not sure on the decisions you get to make and if you wait too long, the game picks one for you. There is not a ton of freedom of choice.

However, the game looks really nice and the story has been interesting so far. The disjointed presentation is an interesting twist in that you are moving backward and forward in time to get the story.

flashburn
10-09-13, 10:17 AM
I ended the night a little past that part as well. I agree that choosing revenge on those party guests was intense. While there were no deaths, there certainly was a Carrie level of revenge in throwing chairs at them to knock them out, starting a fire on the curtains and just moving/pushing things around the room to freak them out.
I didn't start a fire, but I did throw knives at one of the kids, and it stabbed him in the shoulder. It was crazy how it kept escalating.

Liver&Onions
10-09-13, 10:51 AM
. The interactive movie aspect is kind of neat. Though you can certainly tell the game doesn't want you to deviate too much from the path it expects. When I am in control, I tried to explore more of an area only to have the character steered away or the screen dims a bit and you are forced to go the direction the game expects. I also am not sure on the decisions you get to make and if you wait too long, the game picks one for you. There is not a ton of freedom of choice.


Welcome to a David Cage game. It's not about the freedom of choice, it's not about being able to do what you want to do - it's about doing what the guys behind the game wanted you to experience. Experience being the key word here - you're not playing a game, your experiencing a story.

I played up until the training montage. Love love loving this, it's everything I was hoping for and more. during the party scene, I was so invested in Jodie that when the kids turned on her, I personally was angry. I was put in her shoes as that outcast, and felt sorry for her - and I felt horrible for having Aiden go apeshit too, especially when Jodie started yelling at him/it. I drank, but didn't smoke weed (it went away too quickly because i wanted to, but was just shocked/surprised/grateful they put that in there as an option, made it more real) - and have been making choices that make her seem like a real person throughout.

RocShemp
10-09-13, 11:09 AM
Still waiting for UPS to arrive. :(

Liver&Onions
10-09-13, 11:13 AM
Still waiting for UPS to arrive. :(

sorry, but :lol:

RocShemp
10-09-13, 11:34 AM
sorry, but :lol:

It suck to be me. :sad:

Canis Firebrand
10-09-13, 12:59 PM
Welcome to a David Cage game. It's not about the freedom of choice, it's not about being able to do what you want to do - it's about doing what the guys behind the game wanted you to experience. Experience being the key word here - you're not playing a game, your experiencing a story.

I played up until the training montage. Love love loving this, it's everything I was hoping for and more. during the party scene, I was so invested in Jodie that when the kids turned on her, I personally was angry. I was put in her shoes as that outcast, and felt sorry for her - and I felt horrible for having Aiden go apeshit too, especially when Jodie started yelling at him/it. I drank, but didn't smoke weed (it went away too quickly because i wanted to, but was just shocked/surprised/grateful they put that in there as an option, made it more real) - and have been making choices that make her seem like a real person throughout.

Oh... I am loving the game as well.. Just that I wasn't sure what to expect as its the first game like this that I think I've played. I have been making the decisions that I think a person like that would make. Lots of shrugging, and non-verbal or non-committal responses.

At the party I did have her drink and smoke weed as I felt it made her appear to want to fit in more with peers. It was said that she really didn't have friends and kind of has been isolated. One of the things that I found to have Aiden move was a candle near the stereo system by the window. this caused the curtains to catch on fire. I didn't find the knives. I did feel bad after the revenge, but as you said the kids really turned on her and one burned her with a cigarette. I felt it was something that a kid at that age and being picked on might do. Certainly Aiden seems to want to protect her and punish those that hurt/harm her.

For anyone that's gotten a bit far in,

during the CIA training bits, did you have the Rockey theme playing in your head? While she's doing the combat training (punching and kicking) and running the obstacle course, that just started playing in my mind.

Liver&Onions
10-09-13, 02:33 PM
For anyone that's gotten a bit far in,

during the CIA training bits, did you have the Rockey theme playing in your head? While she's doing the combat training (punching and kicking) and running the obstacle course, that just started playing in my mind.

I had this in mind.
SPFCHuEegsk

Canis Firebrand
10-09-13, 02:38 PM
:lol: That works as well.

RocShemp
10-09-13, 02:43 PM
UPS just delivered it! :banana:

RichC2
10-09-13, 02:53 PM
I want this game :(

Part of me is thinking "It'll drop in price pretty quick" the other part of me doesn't want that to happen because I love adventure games.

Alas I am dirt fucking broke.

RocShemp
10-09-13, 03:00 PM
I want this game :(

Part of me is thinking "It'll drop in price pretty quick" the other part of me doesn't want that to happen because I love adventure games.

Alas I am dirt fucking broke.

Seeing as how all the special features are DLC, I have a feeling we'll eventually see a "director's cut" with all the bonus content on disc. And I might double dip for that reason alone. :lol:

RocShemp
10-09-13, 03:20 PM
Anyone else having issues with the soundtrack install? It's only giving me 4 tracks when there's supposed to be 16 tracks (http://gamerhub.tv/articles/beyond-two-souls-soundtrack-tracklist-revealed/2013/09/21/).

RocShemp
10-09-13, 08:11 PM
Although I'm enjoying it a great deal, the complaints about the narrative structure are warranted. In fact, I feel the story would have benefitted from a chronological narrative.

flashburn
10-09-13, 08:14 PM
I think my only real complaint is that I can't get into the quick time events at all. I swear, I just can never tell which way is correct. Usually it's so fucking dark, I can't really see what she is doing. Perhaps a chronological story would of been better, not sure though.

Canis Firebrand
10-09-13, 08:15 PM
Has anyone tried to play the game with their iPhone/iPad yet? I'm not sure if there is an Android version of the app. I downloaded it, but was a little nervous trying it before seeing/playing the game. Now that I played a bit, I might try it next time from my iPhone. Kind of neat that you can control the game that way without a controller.

flashburn
10-09-13, 08:27 PM
Also does the game not unlock a chronological mode after beating it? I kind of assumed it would.

Canis Firebrand
10-09-13, 08:39 PM
I kind of like the disjointed way the story is told. It reminds of of Memento, in a way.. It's an effective, for me, way of telling the story by starting at one point and going forward and backward to flesh out details, etc.

Liver&Onions
10-09-13, 10:04 PM
I think my only real complaint is that I can't get into the quick time events at all. I swear, I just can never tell which way is correct. Usually it's so fucking dark, I can't really see what she is doing. Perhaps a chronological story would of been better, not sure though.

If limbs head towards the left of your television, press left. If Right, press right.

mortalplague
10-09-13, 10:07 PM
Just beat this game. Surprised so many negative reviews. I loved it but i knew i would. Will have to play it again for the other endings :)

flashburn
10-09-13, 10:15 PM
If limbs head towards the left of your television, press left. If Right, press right.

Like I said, I'm having a hard time seeing what the fuck is going on half of the time, or judging what the hell is actually going on during the QTE. Especially when it's seems like 90% of the QTE's happen in the dark. Must just be me I guess.

Liver&Onions
10-09-13, 10:26 PM
Like I said, I'm having a hard time seeing what the fuck is going on half of the time, or judging what the hell is actually going on during the QTE. Especially when it's seems like 90% of the QTE's happen in the dark. Must just be me I guess.

Adjust yo brightness.

maxfisher
10-10-13, 07:07 AM
So for those that have this, how does it compare to Heavy Rain? I thought that game had some really neat ideas, which were almost completely wasted on a story that felt like it was written by an overly earnest high schooler. I'd be interested in checking out this 'experience' if it has a good story, but judging from the reviews, it sounds like that's not the case. Is there anyone here who thought Heavy Rain's story was a turd, but thinks this one is good?

flashburn
10-10-13, 08:10 AM
Adjust yo brightness.

Unfortunately the game doesn't allow brightness to be adjusted, and my TV is properly calibrated for movies. It'd be lame to have to adjust the brightness every time I play the game. I'll just live with it, since I've yet to actually die, it's just really lame.

flashburn
10-10-13, 08:13 AM
So for those that have this, how does it compare to Heavy Rain? I thought that game had some really neat ideas, which were almost completely wasted on a story that felt like it was written by an overly earnest high schooler. I'd be interested in checking out this 'experience' if it has a good story, but judging from the reviews, it sounds like that's not the case. Is there anyone here who thought Heavy Rain's story was a turd, but thinks this one is good?

The story is okay. I'd probably prefer a more realistic story, basically Heavy Rain 2. It's a bit too Sci-Fi for what I was wanting this game to be. Still enjoying it quite a bit, but I liked Heavy Rain's story more, and liked the ability to play multiple characters (Aiden doesn't really count as another character IMO since they are always together and "connected").

RocShemp
10-10-13, 08:33 AM
I liked Heavy Rain's story but this one has a better sense of mood and superior acting (I only liked the performances of Sam Douglas and Aurélie Bancilhon in Heavy Rain). Also, although I haven't finished BEYOND: Two Souls yet (I just met the Navajo family), it so far hasn't repeated HR's mistake of omitting its supernatural element without bothering to properly write it out.

That said, B:TS does have story problems. As I said before, the disjointed narrative doesn't help. It's as if Cage tried to ape Tarantino but without the skill to make things flow. Instead, we have a disjointed story that feels like you're watching a TV series out of order instead of having one past event complement a present day even (or vise versa). It's ambitious and so far entertaining but Cage certainly bit off more than he can chew.

wmansir
10-10-13, 12:05 PM
The story is okay. I'd probably prefer a more realistic story, basically Heavy Rain 2. It's a bit too Sci-Fi for what I was wanting this game to be.

I don't want to get too spoilery yet, but if you include the basic premise of Jodie/Aiden's powers within the term "realistic" then I completely agree.

I think the story would have been much stronger without ...
the rifts at all. Or just the first failed experiment and the usage in the Navajo sequence.

RocShemp
10-10-13, 12:19 PM
I just got what I assume is a glitch. At the end of the Navajo chapter both Thomas and his mother died. However, after Jodie said goodbye to the boys, the moment she rode off on the bike, Thomas and his mother appeared alive. :lol:

I guess I could have saved them after all. :(

wmansir
10-10-13, 02:08 PM
I just got what I assume is a glitch. At the end of the Navajo chapter both Thomas and his mother died. However, after Jodie said goodbye to the boys, the moment she rode off on the bike, Thomas and his mother appeared alive. :lol:

I guess I could have saved them after all. :(

I saw that too. And I think his name was Paul.

Liver&Onions
10-10-13, 03:41 PM
Unfortunately the game doesn't allow brightness to be adjusted, and my TV is properly calibrated for movies. It'd be lame to have to adjust the brightness every time I play the game. I'll just live with it, since I've yet to actually die, it's just really lame.

Ahh - makes sense. I hit the forest escape last night and it was dark, but i think it might have been by design - ups the tension IMO.

RocShemp
10-10-13, 08:16 PM
I just finished the game. As for the ending, I picked Life and Zoe which led me to a cool (albeit odd) post apocalyptic ending. Too bad Quantic Dream don't do sequels, I'd actually like to play a game in that scenario. I didn't care for the tacked on explanation (that too much time in the Infraworld destroyed her mind/memory) for the fractured narrative. Especially since said explanation is then immediately ignored seconds after it's brought up. And, except for two or three sequences, there was no narrative benefit from fracturing the narrative in such a way. It honestly feels like something they came up with at the last minute and was executed quite sloppily. I really wish there was an option to play the game in chronological order (and, no, using thee chapter stops doesn't count). I was also disappointed with the final reveal regarding Aiden. Especially since the end of the Navajo chapter suggested a far darker explanation was in store.

Overall, a very enjoyable game despite it hiccups and I look forward to tackling it again sometime soon.

wmansir
10-10-13, 09:09 PM
Re: Aiden:

I didn't have a problem with the reveal. I thought it was a nice little twist I didn't see it coming.

However, I have to say that up until the sequence at the underwater base where Aiden is separated from Jodie I thought there was a good chance that "Aiden" didn't really exist and was a manifestation of Jodie's powers through her subconscious. I think it would have been nice to keep that a possibility.

RocShemp
10-10-13, 09:16 PM
Re: Aiden:


However, I have to say that up until the sequence at the underwater base where Aiden is separated from Jodie I thought there was a good chance that "Aiden" didn't really exist and was a manifestation of Jodie's powers through her subconscious. I think it would have been nice to keep that a possibility.


The throwaway moment during the dinner date chapter where Jodie actively controlled Aiden (when he locked her out of her appartment0 certainly had me thinking he was in fact a part of Jodie's subconscious.

I would have preferred that as the whole stillborn twin thing felt sort of tacked on. Not a terrible explanation but on the meh side.

Mok
10-12-13, 08:28 PM
Just finished the game and I loved it!!

RocShemp
10-12-13, 08:50 PM
I'm currently replaying the game to see all the different options I may or may not have missed. Having Jodie eat pizza from the garbage during the Homeless chapter was just brutal.

Decker
10-12-13, 09:16 PM
How long a game is it?

RocShemp
10-12-13, 09:44 PM
How long a game is it?

I never timed myself but some people claim it's 11 hours long. Felt longer to me but I was constantly trying to see how far I could explore. Also, you need to explore with Aiden to unlock all the bonus features in the game. So that could extend gameplay a bit more for you, if you are so inclined.

Canis Firebrand
10-12-13, 10:55 PM
I'm currently replaying the game to see all the different options I may or may not have missed. Having Jodie eat pizza from the garbage during the Homeless chapter was just brutal.

I'm halfway through that section in the game.

The two prompts to kill herself were really emotional, in the context of the game. I choose both times to not do it, but I wonder what would have happened. I assume that she'd not go through with it or the other homeless guy that saved her from freezing would have stepped in to save her again.

RocShemp
10-13-13, 06:41 AM
I'm halfway through that section in the game.

The two prompts to kill herself were really emotional, in the context of the game. I choose both times to not do it, but I wonder what would have happened. I assume that she'd not go through with it or the other homeless guy that saved her from freezing would have stepped in to save her again.

I chose to go through with both. Aiden pulls the knife away from you as you begin to cut your wrists. Aiden also stops you from throwing yourself off the ledge which, after some groveling for death from Jodie, leads into Stan showing you how they get money for food.

I also found out that if you take too long, it grows dark and you can no longer do the guitar playing sequence. So Stan can only buy tuna and no chocolate for the group.

From looking at the trailer, there's another optional suicide attempt in the Somalia chapter but I have no idea how to trigger it.

Music
10-13-13, 08:52 AM
I chose to go through with both.
I also found out that if you take too long, it grows dark and you can no longer do the guitar playing sequence. So Stan can only buy tuna and no chocolate for the group.



Did you run into the guy that offers you $10 for a "favor"?

starseed1981
10-13-13, 06:07 PM
Wrapped it up earlier today. Loved it. The director definitely lacked the ability to edit himself but overall I thought it was an excellent "experience".

Music
10-13-13, 07:44 PM
Rented and completed this over the weekend.

Awesome game - story, art, graphics, etc.

MoviePage
10-13-13, 10:30 PM
This thread is basically the opposite of every review I've read and the opinions I've heard on gaming podcasts. Terribly written and laughably overblown were descriptions I heard from more than one source. I'm curious why opinions are so varied. It almost makes me want to try out the game.

Music
10-13-13, 10:35 PM
The only issue I had with the game, is the controlling of the character in certain areas, which I believe is common for what it is.

foxdvd
10-13-13, 10:46 PM
This thread is basically the opposite of every review I've read and the opinions I've heard on gaming podcasts. Terribly written and laughably overblown were descriptions I heard from more than one source. I'm curious why opinions are so varied. It almost makes me want to try out the game.

With Alpha Protocol and the most recent surprise in The Bureau Xcom...I find it more and more I am out of touch with game reviews...

wmansir
10-13-13, 11:29 PM
This thread is basically the opposite of every review I've read and the opinions I've heard on gaming podcasts. Terribly written and laughably overblown were descriptions I heard from more than one source. I'm curious why opinions are so varied. It almost makes me want to try out the game.

It has a 73 avg at Metacritic, and most of the burbs from the mediocre and low scores are about the story, which is the most subjective part of the experience and the core of the game. Personally I think 7 or 8 out of 10 is about right. Page's performance, and the technology to fully capture and present it, elevated an otherwise mediocre "script", IMO.

PacMan2006
10-14-13, 02:06 AM
Outside of the fact that I got probably the worst possible ending in Heavy Rain that you could imagine, I loved that game. Why do some dislike the story in it? My only problem, story wise, was who ended up being the killer didn't ultimately make much sense at all. I won't say anything more.

Looking forward to getting Beyond. Just got Tomb Raider though, so I'll probably wait a little bit.

I loved Heavy Rain because it made me, probably for the first time ever, truly care for the characters I played with in a video game. I think if they could find a way to implement La Noire-like facial technology with these David Cage games, it would truly be an amazing experience.

RocShemp
10-14-13, 08:44 AM
Did you run into the guy that offers you $10 for a "favor"?

Yes, I did. That's the only time I played like a game because I had already seen what happens when Jodie immediately refuses. Though such a response felt more in character to me, I chose to have her agree just to see how the sequence would pay off. I expected Jodie to kick his ass. Instead Aiden did the deed.

But, yeah, that was pretty harsh but I didn't feel she'd go that far.

I also begged in no avail at the diner and refused the money Aiden steals for Jodie (from the ATM and the newspaper dispensers).

Gdrlv
10-14-13, 12:44 PM
I think if they could find a way to implement La Noire-like facial technology with these David Cage games, it would truly be an amazing experience.

I think Beyond Two Souls blows L.A. Noire away when it comes to facial technology. It's a far better looking game than Heavy Rain was.

starseed1981
10-14-13, 02:02 PM
Yeah, the story is the main driver in the "mediocre" reviews. As a subjective thing that probably is a primary driver behind the wide divide in opinions. I'd personally give the game a 8.5/10. Is it worth the full retail I paid? Probably not. But its worth experiencing as a rental or a budget buy.

RocShemp
10-14-13, 02:49 PM
I think Beyond Two Souls blows L.A. Noire away when it comes to facial technology. It's a far better looking game than Heavy Rain was.

Yeah, I agree. The full body and facial mocap in this game is key to why it looked so good. Doing it separate as in L.A. Noir made it look odd.

RocShemp
10-14-13, 02:56 PM
My only problem, story wise, was who ended up being the killer didn't ultimately make much sense at all. I won't say anything more.

That wasn't the only problem. There was also the fact that there was a supernatural element in the story that David Cage decided he wanted to do without. The psychic link between Ethan Mars and the Origami Killer. But instead of properly writing it out (by simply rewriting certain key scenes), he pretty much left it unexplained (and ultimately ignored) and when people called him on it, he had the nerve to claim the it was a McGuffin. At best, it's a red herring. At worst, it's a dangling thread. It is not a McGuffin.

PacMan2006
10-14-13, 03:00 PM
That wasn't the only problem. There was also the fact that there was a supernatural element in the story that David Cage decided he wanted to do without. The psychic link between Ethan Mars and the Origami Killer. But instead of properly writing it out (by simply rewriting certain key scenes), he pretty much left it unexplained (and ultimately ignored) and when people called him on it, he had the nerve to claim the it was a McGuffin. At best, it's a red herring. At worst, it's a dangling thread. It is not a McGuffin.

I honestly don't remember this, but it's been a while since I played the game. Was this something revealed at the end?

RocShemp
10-14-13, 11:43 PM
I honestly don't remember this, but it's been a while since I played the game. Was this something revealed at the end?

It's a plot thread brought out several times throughout Heavy Rain. Ethan Mars has blackouts and then awakens with a specific origami (the dog) favored by the killer in his hand. He also has recurring dreams of drowning bodies that always coincide with the abduction of a child by the Origami Killer (this is mentioned by his wife and his psychiatrist). Just prior to his bizarre dream sequence, Ethan Mars has an asthma attack in the train station where he later gets the shoebox. Later in another train station (while fleeing from the police with Madison moments after the Lizard trial), Ethan suffers another asthma attack. These event occur because on the day of Jason's death (and Ethan's coma), Ethan and the Origami Killer develop a psychic link.

There were supposed to be other scenes and sequences to elaborate on this but David Cage decided he didn't want a supernatural element in Heavy Rain and chose to drop the other intended scenes/sequences. However, all the aforementioned scenes are still present in the game and remain unexplained. It's a pretty big plot hole and was bizarre how that angle is completely ignored by the game's end.

maxfisher
10-15-13, 06:13 AM
Yeah, those plot weaknesses (and really, they're far beyond weaknesses) in Heavy Rain really turned me off to the game, despite liking a lot of what it was going for. David Cage's reaction to getting called out on them and general projected self-importance have kept me from biting on Beyond: Two Souls yet. If Heavy Rain was a film, its plot would have been torn apart and laughed out of the room, along the lines of something like Alex Cross. That fact that so many give it a pass because it's a game, despite the fact that it's clearly intended to be more of a film than a game, still irks me. Especially when true games with solid gameplay (Bioshock, The Last of Us, Mass Effect, etc.) have featured far better, less amateurish storytelling than Heavy Rain.

Raul3
10-15-13, 09:10 AM
This thread is basically the opposite of every review I've read and the opinions I've heard on gaming podcasts. Terribly written and laughably overblown were descriptions I heard from more than one source. I'm curious why opinions are so varied. It almost makes me want to try out the game.

Everyone here, the ones posting, are big fans of Heavy Rain, with flaws and all. So they went at the game trying to get more of the same, but perfected, and it seems they got that.

So yeah, if you like HR, you may really like this game too.

starseed1981
10-15-13, 10:00 AM
Everyone here, the ones posting, are big fans of Heavy Rain, with flaws and all. So they went at the game trying to get more of the same, but perfected, and it seems they got that.

So yeah, if you like HR, you may really like this game too.

This is also true.

RocShemp
10-15-13, 11:15 AM
Everyone here, the ones posting, are big fans of Heavy Rain, with flaws and all. So they went at the game trying to get more of the same, but perfected, and it seems they got that.

So yeah, if you like HR, you may really like this game too.

This is a very important caveat. And, to be perfectly honest, if BEYOND: Two Souls were simply a movie, I'd see it as beautifully acted but with a script that doesn't measure up to the performances with which it's blessed. If not for Ellen Page and Willem Dafoe, the most effective moments would fall flat. And there are other moments that only work because you're an active participant.

Canis Firebrand
10-18-13, 12:02 PM
I'm still making my way through the game. Just got to the first part of the Navajo section.

In playing through, when they go to the earlier parts of her life when she is young, and you see the "parents" is it juts me or does the "father" make you want to just punch him in the throat. At one point, when they showed the parents dropping her off at the center, Aiden chokes the father. I let off, after a bit, but I wasn't sure if the game would let you carry it through and actually choke him to death.

emachine12
10-18-13, 06:19 PM
In playing through, when they go to the earlier parts of her life when she is young, and you see the "parents" is it juts me or does the "father" make you want to just punch him in the throat. At one point, when they showed the parents dropping her off at the center, Aiden chokes the father. I let off, after a bit, but I wasn't sure if the game would let you carry it through and actually choke him to death.

There are two trophy options for that part:

You leave "dad" alone or let him live, and you get a sympathy trophy or you kill him for the other trophy.

RocShemp
10-18-13, 09:22 PM
I'm still making my way through the game. Just got to the first part of the Navajo section.

In playing through, when they go to the earlier parts of her life when she is young, and you see the "parents" is it juts me or does the "father" make you want to just punch him in the throat. At one point, when they showed the parents dropping her off at the center, Aiden chokes the father. I let off, after a bit, but I wasn't sure if the game would let you carry it through and actually choke him to death.

There are two trophy options for that part:

You leave "dad" alone or let him live, and you get a sympathy trophy or you kill him for the other trophy.


You can't. I let him be in my first playthrough. I choked him out the second time around. Jodie makes Aiden stop before you can kill fake dad.

emachine12
10-18-13, 11:43 PM
You can't. I let him be in my first playthrough. I choked him out the second time around. Jodie makes Aiden stop before you can kill fake dad.

Ahhh. Thanks for the correction.

RocShemp
10-19-13, 01:06 AM
Ahhh. Thanks for the correction.

If you wanna kill off some characters, in my current playthrough, it seems there's a third scenario in the party where Aiden kills the kids. I went about knocking out almost all of the kids (one of the girls refused to go down) and just as I knocked down a candle to start a fire, the game went to a cutscene where Jodie is leaving the house and Kirsten's mom shows up. She asks where her daughter is but Jodie doesn't answer. The mom runs inside and whatever she sees inside freaks her out and she starts yelling her daughter's name. At that moment Nathan shows up, sees that some shit went down and gets Jodie the hell out of there without confirming if the kids are dead or alive. :lol:

Is it wrong that I wish there was a scenario where you set the fire and the kids don't make it out?

PacMan2006
10-25-13, 09:31 AM
Don't have the game yet, but am wondering how the sales have been. Does anyone know?

foxdvd
10-25-13, 09:34 AM
Don't have the game yet, but am wondering how the sales have been. Does anyone know?

vgchartz says 300,000 global sales through OCT 12. This is week one sales only really, so the real test is to see how much if falls second week.

Brent L
11-24-13, 04:11 PM
I got this through Gamefly the other day and I've been working my way through with two play sessions so far between my time with my PS4 and the new Mario and Zelda games. I was up until freakin' 6am last night playing this, good lord. I got to chapter 10, decided to play a few more and they were pretty quick chapters, then I got to Navajo and my wife said just one more, so I said sure. I had no clue I'd be playing that one chapter for over an hour!!! My wife loves to watch me play this, she loved watching me play Heavy Rain as well.

The bar scene, oh my, insane. I went all out in that one, just didn't hold anything back at all. My wife thought even I went crazy, lol. She likes when I play "nice", usually. Or at least when I don't go full on crazy.

This game is amazing. Sure, it's very much an interactive movie, but I love it to death. There are things in this game I never expected to see. I'm blown away by it for sure. I knew next to nothing about this game before I started. I only finally went back to Heavy Rain last week or so and beat that one before I started this one.

I want the creators of this game should make a full blown horror themed game on the PS4 now. My favorite parts of this one may be when Jodie was a little girl and all of the crazy stuff was happening to her.

Liver&Onions
11-24-13, 04:21 PM
:up:

RichC2
11-24-13, 06:17 PM
I got this through Gamefly the other day and I've been working my way through with two play sessions so far between my time with my PS4 and the new Mario and Zelda games. I was up until freakin' 6am last night playing this, good lord. I got to chapter 10, decided to play a few more and they were pretty quick chapters, then I got to Navajo and my wife said just one more, so I said sure. I had no clue I'd be playing that one chapter for over an hour!!! My wife loves to watch me play this, she loved watching me play Heavy Rain as well.

The bar scene, oh my, insane. I went all out in that one, just didn't hold anything back at all. My wife thought even I went crazy, lol. She likes when I play "nice", usually. Or at least when I don't go full on crazy.

This game is amazing. Sure, it's very much an interactive movie, but I love it to death. There are things in this game I never expected to see. I'm blown away by it for sure. I knew next to nothing about this game before I started. I only finally went back to Heavy Rain last week or so and beat that one before I started this one.

I want the creators of this game should make a full blown horror themed game on the PS4 now. My favorite parts of this one may be when Jodie was a little girl and all of the crazy stuff was happening to her.

Fahrenheit/Indigo Prophecy almost was horror, until it went silly SyFy Original.

RocShemp
11-24-13, 07:14 PM
I need to play Farenheit, despite all the horror stories I've read of its "Simon gameplay". :lol:

adrenaline78
11-24-13, 08:31 PM
I just started this game last night. Incredible.. and games like this are why I love games! Next chapter is the Navajo chapter!

Brent L
12-06-13, 11:28 AM
I just started this game last night. Incredible.. and games like this are why I love games! Next chapter is the Navajo chapter!

Enjoy, that is the longest chapter in the game by far.

I finished this last night and got what my wife and I consider the "good" ending. We were also, surprisingly, very touched by the big reveal at the end of the game. Maybe we're suckers, I dunno, but it legit put a chill through both of us and made us misty eyed.

KenKeith
12-08-13, 11:16 PM
Just finished this too, great game and my wife was actually interested in watching it too. I was a big fan of heavy rain too, but this was much more polished.

PacMan2006
12-26-13, 01:44 PM
Just finished this game--thought it was great. I loved Heavy Rain but thought this was much better.

Regarding the broken narrative structure...I didn't mind it. I felt it would have been perfectly fine to structure it chronologically, but I didn't think it took away from the game either.

I honestly don't quite understand why this game gets beaten down in the reviews. Do all games have to be the same in their ambition, or in the control they afford the gamer? People suggest that an interactive movie/game is a bad thing, but I felt far more connected to Jodie because of it. Doing things like making a Curry dinner or walking around at a house party or deciding to take money from an ATM machine immerse me far more than a typical game, because it makes me factor in the character's mental and emotional state as I make decisions that I feel would be true to the character.

In any other game, if my character is getting his ass kicked, it would be a thrilling action sequence that I'm excited to beat. In Beyond, I'm worried, because I feel those punches much more, and I'm concerned how the story might spin differently if the fight has a negative outcome.

I wonder if part of the negative reviews comes from the fact that you don't die, and maybe people think there's ultimately no consequences for your actions? I don't know how others feel, but I played Tomb Raider before getting into this, and I died quite a lot. Playing Beyond, the lack of dying not only made me feel more connected to the story, but it heightened the tension that death could be a reality--if not for Jodie, then at least another character.

I'm usually not into the sci-fi or supernatural element, because it always seem to boil down to exploding things whirling around the screen, and this was no different. But I didn't mind it in this one whatsoever.


I ended up choosing life. Curious to know if anyone chose Beyond, and if so, why?

Also...is the DLC worth paying for? Anyone try it out?

RichC2
12-26-13, 01:51 PM
I haven't been able to get into this one quite yet, I plan on going throughout but early on (around the time of the "teenage party") I was just shaking my head at how ridiculous the whole game was. It just doesn't seem as interesting as Heavy Rain or Indigio Prophecy.

bippitty
12-27-13, 07:39 PM
I honestly don't quite understand why this game gets beaten down in the reviews. Do all games have to be the same in their ambition, or in the control they afford the gamer? People suggest that an interactive movie/game is a bad thing, but I felt far more connected to Jodie because of it.

The only reviews that I saw were positive, though they did mention the controversy about whether or not these were really games.

I'm not a big fan of the interactive movie concept. I don't want to control the character. I want to BE the character. As close as I can get. The interactive movie puts another layer between me and the character.

Fortunately, Quantic Dream leaves a lot of space between releases. If they started pumping out a lot more of these games, I'd get very tired of them. I like them as an occasional diversion.

The controls feel terribly clunky sometimes. Fortunately, they did tone down the bits from Heavy Rain where it seemed like I ended up having to hold down every damn button on the controller.




I ended up choosing life. Curious to know if anyone chose Beyond, and if so, why?




Trophies. Always choose trophies. Saved everybody who could be and chose life. Went back and saved none and went with them.

Also...is the DLC worth paying for? Anyone try it out?

Did they release any new DLC? If it's the Advanced Experiments, it came free when I got it from Gamestop. It's OK. There's no story. Just a series of puzzles to solve using Aiden and Jodie to open doors. I wouldn't pay for it.

Mok
04-22-14, 09:01 PM
Looks like there is a director cut coming out for the ps4.

stingermck
04-23-14, 08:14 AM
Bring it

RocShemp
04-23-14, 09:58 PM
Will it be a real director's cut or like the one for HR which was just the one bit of DLC and some additional making of videos packed in? Because the regular PS3 release of B2S already had all that.

Anubis2005X
05-02-14, 04:28 PM
Finished this today, loved it!

Did anyone else think that Cage must love Metroid Prime 2? Those dark entities made me think of the creatures from the dark world.

I thought the same thing about the end of the Navajo level being a glitch when Paul and wheelchair grandma show up. But I think that was just meant to be them in their spirit form (since Jodie can see those too).

Decker
09-01-14, 10:23 PM
Looks like there is a director cut coming out for the ps4.

Not officially confirmed, but PS4 trophies were spotted recently per Joystiq, and that famous harbinger of all upcoming releases, a listing for the game briefly appeared on a German website

mhg83
09-02-14, 06:07 PM
It's always been planned for PS4. During pre-release press coverage it was revealed they built the game using the PS4 engine and ported it over to the PS3. With that info i'd consider the PS4 to be the true version.