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DJariya
05-24-12, 01:15 PM
http://kotaku.com/5912483/major-league-baseball-2ks-cancellation-is-confirmed



Major League Baseball 2K’s Cancellation Looms on Grim News from Game’s Creators
Take-Two Interactive, the parent company of 2K Sports, notably left Major League Baseball 2K out of its planned releases in its coming fiscal year in a call with investors today. Kotaku asked Take-Two Interactive if it could confirm the end of the series, and it released this statement:

"Our legacy Major League Baseball agreement will sunset in fiscal 2013," a Take-Two spokesman said, meaning in the coming 12 calendar months. "MLB 2K12 is our last offering under that agreement. At this time, we have no further comment."

While that language would seem to leave open the possibility for a new agreement, in a conference call with investors today, Take-Two said it expects the losses associated with the game to be 50 percent less in the coming fiscal year, and zeroed out in the one after that, strongly indicating the expiration of the series.

Kotaku asked directly if Take-Two or 2K Sports was in any discussion to extend its agreement and did not receive any answer. MLB 2K was not on its list of anticipated releases for the coming fiscal year, mimicking the quiet deaths shown to 2K Sports' NHL and College Hoops series.

Take-Two's seven-year pact with Major League Baseball, a deal cut by a previous management regime, was believed to cost the company $30 million dollars as the series never found consistent critical or commercial success.

Take-Two chief Strauss Zelnick had long indicated that the company would not renew the deal with MLB, calling it a money-loser the company had no interest in. The company's strategy, increasingly, is to produce high quality offerings on franchises it wholly owns, and MLB 2K represented neither.

The move means NBA 2K—which Take-Two said by itself made 2K Sports profitable in the past fiscal year—is 2K Sports' only remaining annual sports title. The label published Top Spin, a tennis simulation, in 2011 but it was never an annual series.

It also means there could be no Major League Baseball simulation title for the Xbox 360 next year. 2K Sports had the exclusive rights to develop and publish third-party console games. This effectively made it the exclusive title on the 360, as Microsoft did not publish its own game. Sony produces its own for the PlayStation line, the acclaimed MLB The Show.

EA Sports publishes a Major League Baseball-licensed Facebook game but is expected to sit out on console titles until the next generation of hardware arrives. Kotaku has reached out to EA Sports for comment.





I have an XBox 360, so The Show isn't an option for me. This sucks for 2K since they also lost their NHL license. NBA is their last game series left.

Has anyone here bought MLB 2K12? Is it any good? I was thinking about eventually picking it up when it gets cheaper.

Kedrix
05-24-12, 01:57 PM
Not surprising. MLB2k11 was okay which was the last one I played. And truth be told unlike many other 2k games I'm fortunate enough to review, they didn't even send me 2k12 which shows you how much they thought of it. I miss when baseball games used to be fun to play (RBI's, Baseball Simulator 1.000, Baseball Stars, etc). Now it seems too simulationrific and too technical. I'd kill for a good legends game that had an arcade type experience on the 360.

fujishig
05-24-12, 02:08 PM
I wonder if Sony would ever consider going cross platform (not sure if people would buy a PS over an Xbox just for the Show).

starseed1981
05-24-12, 02:10 PM
Hrmmm...not even Kate Upton could save them. Sigh.

chuckd21
05-24-12, 03:31 PM
Sony would make some serious cash if they made The Show available on the 360. I know it would never happen...

Drexl
05-24-12, 03:37 PM
Sony would make some serious cash if they made The Show available on the 360. I know it would never happen...

Or at least for PC.

DaveWadding
05-24-12, 04:29 PM
MVP 2013. EA needs to make it happen.

DJariya
05-24-12, 05:13 PM
Not surprising. MLB2k11 was okay which was the last one I played. And truth be told unlike many other 2k games I'm fortunate enough to review, they didn't even send me 2k12 which shows you how much they thought of it. I miss when baseball games used to be fun to play (RBI's, Baseball Simulator 1.000, Baseball Stars, etc). Now it seems too simulationrific and too technical. I'd kill for a good legends game that had an arcade type experience on the 360.

I kind of agree with here. Back in the Genesis days, I loved World Series Baseball. The controls were simple and it was a pretty fun simulation. Now with the games becoming alot more realistic (aiming your pitches, selecting the type of pitch, choosing your batting stance and aiming your bat) It's become alot more frustrating and not as fun.

Rob V
05-25-12, 09:14 AM
I played every baseball game from Micro League Baseball thru The Show 12 and nothing hold my attention these days. Like Kedrix mentioned, it's just too technical. To steal a base you need to have a Masters Degree in Physics.

Obi-Wan Jabroni
05-25-12, 10:25 AM
I played every baseball game from Micro League Baseball thru The Show 12 and nothing hold my attention these days. Like Kedrix mentioned, it's just too technical. To steal a base you need to have a Masters Degree in Physics.

Isn't that the same with most sports games though? Like there's something to be said for the simplicity of a Tecmo Bowl as compared to a modern Madden game.

Kedrix
05-25-12, 12:18 PM
Isn't that the same with most sports games though? Like there's something to be said for the simplicity of a Tecmo Bowl as compared to a modern Madden game.

Yes and no. While a football game is certainly more complicated than it was around the Tecmo Bowl era, it doesn't feel too complicated. I've played a couple of madden games in the last 5 years and I never felt out of touch so to speak. Same with Basketball. Hockey too. But there is something about baseball that goes above and beyond and seems to cater only to the hardcore of the hardcore.

I absolutely adore baseball stats more than any type of sports statistics on this earth and I understand basically everything about them. So I get "baseball", but MLB2k11 takes all of the fun out of it, especially in pitching. Who wants to tilt an analog stick in some confusing direction to get a pitch go correctly? Answer, nobody.

lordwow
05-25-12, 06:51 PM
The problem is that Baseball games (IMHO) peaked around MVP Baseball. Hitting was one stick "aim where the ball is going" and push the button. It took a little bit of skill, but was managable. These recent games with pitching and hitting require complex 2 stick movements are a pain and create an unnecessary learning curve. If anything baseball games should be more like The Bigs than MLB 2k

DJariya
05-25-12, 06:54 PM
I love The Bigs, which is also produced by 2K. That is a fun Arcade simulation and the controls are really simple. They only produced 2 editions (one with Pujols on the cover and the other with Fielder)

Setzer
05-25-12, 07:35 PM
MVP 2013. EA needs to make it happen.

:up:

argh923
05-25-12, 07:39 PM
I kind of agree with here. Back in the Genesis days, I loved World Series Baseball. The controls were simple and it was a pretty fun simulation. Now with the games becoming alot more realistic (aiming your pitches, selecting the type of pitch, choosing your batting stance and aiming your bat) It's become alot more frustrating and not as fun.

Man, i loved that game. I played through an entire season with a friend of mine one year, no simulations. I think I had 117 HRs with Manny Ramirez on the Indians. :lol:

bippitty
06-06-12, 07:01 AM
I pretty much canceled all purchases of sports games when they started aping the TV sportscasts. I don't watch sports on TV.

I don't want to watch the game, I want to play it.

I don't want to hear commentators spouting the same stupid cliche for the eleventy-billionth time.

I don't much care about having "real" teams and players.

Toss the licenses. Ditch the TV shows. Stuff the commentators. Make a fun game. I'll buy it.

DJariya
06-06-12, 07:17 AM
I pretty much canceled all purchases of sports games when they started aping the TV sportscasts. I don't watch sports on TV.

I don't want to watch the game, I want to play it.

I don't want to hear commentators spouting the same stupid cliche for the eleventy-billionth time.

I don't much care about having "real" teams and players.

Toss the licenses. Ditch the TV shows. Stuff the commentators. Make a fun game. I'll buy it.

I don't agree with you here. The MLB, NBA, NFL and NHL licenses are extremely important for sports games. It adds realism and the fantasy sports element to it.

I don't want to play an Baseball game that features a generic Los Angeles vs San Francisco with made up names like Fatt Blemp or Jim Hincecrumb. I'm not 12 years old with an old NES system.

2K tried that a few years ago after they lost the NFL license with a generic football game with only real Hall of Famer/Legends player names. No current players were used. I don't think that game sold very well. You can now buy it used for less than $10.

Rob V
06-06-12, 07:58 AM
I don't agree with you here. The MLB, NBA, NFL and NHL licenses are extremely important for sports games. It adds realism and the fantasy sports element to it.

Agreed --- but I'd like to have the option to start a fictional league. When I play The Show 12 with my Tigers, there are expectations of what each player can/should do based on my knowledge base with those players. I've always liked the fictional option because you never know if you drafter a diamond in the rough or if Fatt Blemp was going to hit 4 or 40 HR's. Just my $0.02

bippitty
06-07-12, 01:25 AM
I don't agree with you here. The MLB, NBA, NFL and NHL licenses are extremely important for sports games. It adds realism and the fantasy sports element to it.

I don't want to play an Baseball game that features a generic Los Angeles vs San Francisco with made up names like Fatt Blemp or Jim Hincecrumb. I'm not 12 years old with an old NES system.

2K tried that a few years ago after they lost the NFL license with a generic football game with only real Hall of Famer/Legends player names. No current players were used. I don't think that game sold very well. You can now buy it used for less than $10.

I'm not a sports fan. I don't hate the licenses, but for me, they're a waste of money. I don't know who any of the players are. I know the names of some of the teams, but I don't care. I just threw that in to pad the rant.

I'm really only bugged by the limitations and foolish filler caused by making TV broadcasting the dominant paradigm. And the fact that the games aren't really that fun.

Sometime I'll have to complain about the way so many other game genres too slavishly copy the movies.

My Other Self
06-07-12, 01:29 AM
I'm not a sports fan. I don't hate the licenses, but for me, they're a waste of money.You're not the market they're catering to. And what person that doesn't like sports go out and buy sports games?

PhantomStranger
06-07-12, 02:10 AM
I would never buy a mainstream sports game that does not have the real players in it.

bippitty
06-07-12, 02:15 AM
You're not the market they're catering to. And what person that doesn't like sports go out and buy sports games?

The sort of person who likes to play games. I don't have to like criminals to play Grand Theft Auto.

Rob V
06-07-12, 08:12 AM
I think you're missing the point.

DJariya
06-07-12, 08:25 AM
The sort of person who likes to play games. I don't have to like criminals to play Grand Theft Auto.

:confused: You don't like sports, yet your chiming in on an MLB Sports game thread? As McFly just said, these types of sports games with real players, teams are obviously not meant for someone like you.

Just should probably get a Wii and stick to stuff like this then:

http://www.amazon.com/Mario-Sports-Mix-Nintendo-Wii/dp/B003O6H8CK/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1339071812&sr=8-1

http://www.amazon.com/Mario-Super-Sluggers-Nintendo-Wii/dp/B001APM444/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1339071909&sr=8-4

Osiris3657
06-07-12, 08:45 AM
:lol:

I purchased a PS3 last year so I could play MLB The Show. I loved the MVP series so when that was discontinued I was stuck with the mediocre 2K series on my 360.
The Show is a great series, but I agree that they make the controls overly complex. If they simplified them it would be much more fun.

bunkaroo
06-07-12, 11:37 AM
I love the Show but I've elected to not use the stick controls for pitching and hitting. I still use the meter for pitching and the X button to swing. It's hard enough that way.

Maxflier
06-07-12, 12:44 PM
I love the Show but I've elected to not use the stick controls for pitching and hitting. I still use the meter for pitching and the X button to swing. It's hard enough that way.

Yep, meter pitching and X button swing for me as well. Not interested in the newfangled controls.

bippitty
06-07-12, 06:29 PM
:confused: You don't like sports, yet your chiming in on an MLB Sports game thread? As McFly just said, these types of sports games with real players, teams are obviously not meant for someone like you.

Just should probably get a Wii and stick to stuff like this then:



I don't like to watch sports.

A game doesn't need the dross and limitations of a TV broadcast. Apparently the focus on rabid TV watchers hasn't helped this franchise's profitability.

Tried the Wii. Didn't like it.

DJariya
06-07-12, 06:38 PM
I don't like to watch sports.

A game doesn't need the dross and limitations of a TV broadcast. Apparently the focus on rabid TV watchers hasn't helped this franchise's profitability.

Tried the Wii. Didn't like it.


I don't know why your busting the balls of sports games realism. Most Sports games have been like that for well over 20 years going back to the Genesis and SNES days. Name one sports game, specifically baseball because this is a baseball game thread, that fits the criteria of what you consider fun.

Honestly, this discussion is nonsense mainly because your commenting in an MLB sports game thread and you don't even like MLB. Like I just said a few posts ago, you should play the Mario sports games then. The only complaint which I stated specifically regarding the MLB 2K series for baseball is the controls are a little too complex. But other than that, I love the real players, teams and licenses.

If you have something else to comment on that can help me understand your thinking better, then great. Otherwise, I don't have anything else to add.

My Other Self
06-08-12, 12:00 AM
If you have something else to comment on that can help me understand your thinking better, then great. Otherwise, I don't have anything else to add.I can't figure out why this guy is in this thread.

Comparing liking GTA to a liking of criminals is off the wall as it is. If you don't like sports, then you don't like playing them, which negates the purpose of sitting on your behind and pretending you're playing them.

What a weird way to troll.

Drexl
06-08-12, 12:39 AM
I think I get what he wants. For example, I like Hot Shots Golf, because the game has a fun, whimsical presentation that isn't in the Tiger Woods PGA game. I don't play golf or follow real golfers, so I don't care that it doesn't have real players and courses. What he wants is something like Baseball Stars on the NES and Neo Geo (even though the "American Dreams" had names like Babe and Hank).

Unfortunately for him though, there is very little demand for this sort of thing. Everything is either as realistic as possible, or very arcadey and simplified (like Wii Sports). He wants something in between, I think.

RockBallsford
06-09-12, 02:41 AM
Have you tried MLB Power Pros 2008?

Games only take about 20 minutes and base stealing is just a couple button presses. It's on PS2 and Wii, you use a Gamecube or Classic controller for the Wii version.

Kedrix
06-09-12, 10:41 AM
I think I get what he wants. For example, I like Hot Shots Golf, because the game has a fun, whimsical presentation that isn't in the Tiger Woods PGA game. I don't play golf or follow real golfers, so I don't care that it doesn't have real players and courses. What he wants is something like Baseball Stars on the NES and Neo Geo (even though the "American Dreams" had names like Babe and Hank).

Unfortunately for him though, there is very little demand for this sort of thing. Everything is either as realistic as possible, or very arcadey and simplified (like Wii Sports). He wants something in between, I think.

I would fall into the same group for the most part. I think Baseball Stars is an excellent game. Baseball Simulator 1.000 (NES/SNES) is another example of the "inbetween". Realistic as possible is way too technical to really have fun with and over the top arcaedy games like Wii Sports/Mario Sluggers offer no challenge at all.

bippitty
06-14-12, 04:50 AM
I don't know why your busting the balls of sports games realism. Most Sports games have been like that for well over 20 years going back to the Genesis and SNES days. Name one sports game, specifically baseball because this is a baseball game thread, that fits the criteria of what you consider fun.

I didn't say anything about sports realism -- other than that I don't care about the licenses. I neither like them nor dislike them.

TV sports broadcasting is not reality. It is a limited and packaged version of reality. Slavishly aping the TV broadcast limits what the video game can be.

bippitty
06-14-12, 04:57 AM
If you don't like sports, then you don't like playing them, which negates the purpose of sitting on your behind and pretending you're playing them.

The idea that liking to play sports is the same thing as liking to watch sports broadcasting makes no sense.

Osiris3657
01-15-13, 09:40 AM
Coming back. 2K13 releases March 5th

http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/01/09/mlb-2k13-coming-in-march

bunkaroo
01-15-13, 11:04 AM
Woohoo - another year of being a very distant second place to the best sports game on a console.

DaveWadding
01-15-13, 06:02 PM
I finally got a PS3, so HAW HAW.

Tarantino
01-15-13, 10:54 PM
The 2K baseball series is fucking embarrassing. How are their NBA games so good, while their MLB games are a disaster?

Rob V
01-16-13, 08:14 AM
I really miss the days of High Heat Baseball. The Show is very good, but it's also very difficult (at least for me). To The Show's credit, I give their team props for never failing to try and make the game better despite having no competition out there. That said, I wish there was some competition on the Xbox platform.

TheKing
01-17-13, 01:02 AM
In many of the stories I've read, the general consensus is that EA, and any other game company that would have been interested in putting out a new baseball game are not interested in starting the franchise at the tail end of this console cycle.

It makes a lot of sense if that's the case. As much as I'd love to see a new MVP, I wouldn't want them pulling the old engine out and working from there. It'd be better if they built a new engine that could possibly take the baseball game to the next level.

There's even some that believe it was MLB themselves that convinced 2K to put out a game this year, in order to fill in the gap.

Rob V
01-17-13, 09:06 AM
Well if MLB forced them to, you know it's gonna be good ;)

nickdawgy
01-17-13, 05:42 PM
The 2k baseball games are bad if you put them next to The Show, but it's not complete crap fest. I usually play both every baseball season.

I'm surprised there's no EA offering this year.