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Solid Snake
05-22-12, 05:27 PM
Alright, So I saw Red Sun today. Uh...wow. It's a hell of an international casting for sure.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/7f/Red_sun_movieposter.jpg

The Japanese ambassador is traveling through the Wild West by train, when gangsters hold up the train, to rob a gold shipment. They also carry an ancient Japanese sword the ambassador was carrying as a present for the US president. The ambassador's bodyguard (Toshiro Mifune) will go after them, with the aid of one of the gang's leaders betrayed by his pals...

It's a Western...w/ Mifune as a samurai guard....w/ Frenchman Delon as a baddie...and Andress as well...eye candy/whore. Oh and Bronson...uhm..as...uh...Bronson in a Western.

Anyway...this was a lot of fun. Loved how Mifune and Bronson played off each other. While the story isn't as good as say Death Wish or Mr. Majestyk or a few others. It's very entertaining and it works out very well. Pretty funny but not hokey about it either. Hits the beats well

my favorite moment is when Bronson tries to escape Mifune but ends up falling down a fucking big side of hill (or whatever one would call that) and Mifune's character follows immediately like a badass down that without falling.

it's a western for sure but it's really working well w/ Mifune hitting full cylinders as a samurai. I mean...c'mon...Mifune had that shit down hardcore. Mifune's voice in this...I'm assuming isn't his, correct? Did he ever learn English. It doesn't feel gimmicky w/ the samurai included. It just gels really well in this film.

It's directed by Terence Young btw...of Dr. No, From Russia With Love, and Thunderball fame. So that's cool. So this is a European film..but the credits and whatnot are in French...so....is this a French film w/ a Brit on the helm w/ an international cast?

I'm really digging seeing all these Bronson films. At the moment I'm on Breakout..and I'm really enjoying that as well.

Chadm
05-22-12, 05:40 PM
Mifune, Delon and Bronson were in the same damn movie?!?! Sounds more like someone's idea for a fantasy cast than a real one. Thats awesome.

inri222
05-22-12, 05:48 PM
Mifune, Delon and Bronson were in the same damn movie?!?!

Bronson & Mifune get lots of love here. How about some love for Delon.
He's done some excellent work for Luchino Visconti, Jean-Luc Godard, Jean-Pierre Melville, Michelangelo Antonioni, Joseph Losey and Louis Malle.

islandclaws
05-22-12, 05:56 PM
This movie was like a man movie fantasy for me when I found out about it. Each one of the main guys is my favorite actor in their respective countries. While I think the final film fell a little short of my expectations, just having all that fucking talent together on screen is remarkably awesome.

Preterite
05-22-12, 06:07 PM
I remember this movie being on television occasionally when I was a kid. Despite the awesome premise of a samurai teaming up with a cowboy, I could never get into the film. I had a hard time with Bronson's harsh treatment of Mifune, and my total misreading of the ending ruined the whole thing for me. As an adult, however, the casting was too cool to pass up and I imported the R3 DVD a few years back. I'm really glad I gave the movie another chance, as I enjoyed it much more this time around.

Although Delon's character is so cool I really wished he was one of the good guys. And while I'm wishing, it's too bad Jean-Paul Belmondo and Jimmy Wang Yu weren't in this as well!

Solid Snake
05-22-12, 06:15 PM
Watching the film it made me wonder...if Bronson fought Mifune..who would win? My gut tells me Bronson cuz well he was actually a pretty fit guy and could kick a lot of ass. Mifune though...he was kind of wild too.

Anyway...I enjoyed the hell out of it.

also..noticing it so far w/ my Bronsonathon...the 1970s was Bronson's decade for sure.

Mabuse
05-22-12, 06:23 PM
I remember seeing a poster for this at the Gene Autry Museum. I could never remember the title, just the outrageous cast.

So it's not in R1 I take it?

Preterite
05-22-12, 06:30 PM
I remember seeing a poster for this at the Gene Autry Museum. I could never remember the title, just the outrageous cast.

So it's not in R1 I take it?
There's a couple of OOP full screen releases. The Optimum R2 DVD is supposed to be widescreen, as is the Hong Kong R0 DVD.

d2cheer
05-23-12, 10:16 AM
I love the line that Bronson says to Andress about cooking its something like this.

"If you cook you eat, if I cook you get whipped and go to bed hungry." :lol:

Ash Ketchum
05-23-12, 11:07 AM
Alright, So I saw Red Sun today. Uh...wow. It's a hell of an international casting for sure.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/7f/Red_sun_movieposter.jpg



It's a Western...w/ Mifune as a samurai guard....w/ Frenchman Delon as a baddie...and Andress as well...eye candy/whore. Oh and Bronson...uhm..as...uh...Bronson in a Western.

Anyway...this was a lot of fun. Loved how Mifune and Bronson played off each other. While the story isn't as good as say Death Wish or Mr. Majestyk or a few others. It's very entertaining and it works out very well. Pretty funny but not hokey about it either. Hits the beats well

my favorite moment is when Bronson tries to escape Mifune but ends up falling down a fucking big side of hill (or whatever one would call that) and Mifune's character follows immediately like a badass down that without falling.

it's a western for sure but it's really working well w/ Mifune hitting full cylinders as a samurai. I mean...c'mon...Mifune had that shit down hardcore. Mifune's voice in this...I'm assuming isn't his, correct? Did he ever learn English. It doesn't feel gimmicky w/ the samurai included. It just gels really well in this film.

It's directed by Terence Young btw...of Dr. No, From Russia With Love, and Thunderball fame. So that's cool. So this is a European film..but the credits and whatnot are in French...so....is this a French film w/ a Brit on the helm w/ an international cast?

I'm really digging seeing all these Bronson films. At the moment I'm on Breakout..and I'm really enjoying that as well.

IMDB lists this film as a co-production of France, Italy and Spain.

I was quite sure when I saw the U.S. release version (back in 1972) that Mifune's own voice was used.

The Bronx neighborhood theater audience I saw it with really dug Mifune.

As I pointed out in another Bronson thread here, this is the only movie in which a member of the original Seven Samurai (Mifune) and a member of the original Magnificent Seven (Bronson) appeared together onscreen.

And Delon had starred in a film called LE SAMOURAI.

Meglos
05-23-12, 11:40 AM
Bronson and Delon did a heist flick called Honor Among Thieves which is worth checking out.

http://i.imgur.com/OQuZh.jpg

Solid Snake
05-23-12, 12:08 PM
oooh, I have now added HAT among the list.

Dr Mabuse
05-23-12, 02:05 PM
Bronson and Delon did a heist flick called Honor Among Thieves which is worth checking out.

http://i.imgur.com/OQuZh.jpg

'Farewell Friend' is the actual title, it's a French movie.

inri222
05-23-12, 03:04 PM
http://frogsmoke.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/delon-bronson2.jpg

Interesting read
http://www.notcoming.com/reviews/farewellfriend/

Meglos
05-23-12, 03:53 PM
'Farewell Friend' is the actual title, it's a French movie.

I was aware of this. It's just that if Snake was wanting to find this movie here in Amurrica, he'd have a better chance of searching for it under it's blander, American title.

rw2516
05-23-12, 03:54 PM
There's a couple of OOP full screen releases. The Optimum R2 DVD is supposed to be widescreen, as is the Hong Kong R0 DVD.

TCM shows this widescreen. U.S. version. Although not 16x9, the dvd I made off TCM is the highest quality I've seen. Haven't seen the other region DVDs.

d2cheer
05-23-12, 04:13 PM
http://frogsmoke.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/delon-bronson2.jpg

Interesting read
http://www.notcoming.com/reviews/farewellfriend/

That is great thanks, I will be watching it again this weekend. That article got me all fired up to watch it again.

bluetoast
05-23-12, 04:20 PM
What the fuck? I've gotta see all of these. I've heard of Red Sun due to looking at Mifune's filmography from time to time, never caught it though.

islandclaws
05-24-12, 12:39 PM
I watched Honor Among Thieves/Farewell Friend recently (pretty good looking DVD available) - loved it, but, then again, I love almost anything Bronson and Delon do. They sure beat the hell out of each other throughout, although in real life Bronson would have laid Delon out without spilling his drink.