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PatD
05-14-12, 05:23 PM
While it veers into Ron Paulistic-territory at times, it makes some interesting points. Has anyone seen the following?

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DeputyDave
05-14-12, 05:24 PM
I'm sure I watched that here several years ago.

Mabuse
05-14-12, 05:28 PM
I think this has been posted before...and deleted before. I've never watched. Does it describe some kind of international jewish conspiracy?

Navinabob
05-14-12, 05:43 PM
I think this has been posted before...and deleted before. I've never watched. Does it describe some kind of international jewish conspiracy?

Yep. This piece of crap is thinly veiled Jewish conspiracy shit. If anyone thinks of themselves as "seldom fooled by propaganda" and a natural skeptic, but finds that film moving and resonating in truth, then I've got some bad news for you.

PatD
05-14-12, 05:43 PM
^^
The word, "Jewish" is not used in the cartoon. "Conspiracy" is basically the crux of the cartoon.

I don't know how much of what they say is true, but the bit about Kennedy is what got my attention.

The ending, however, is fucking stupid. It's the same idiotic "V for Vendetta" bullshit mentality that inspired Occupy into being the flash-in-the-pan ineffectual movement that it is/was, rather than something effective.

DeputyDave
05-14-12, 05:52 PM
Damn, I didn't know it was anti-Jewish. I'm gonna watch it now.

PatD
05-14-12, 05:54 PM
Damn, I didn't know it was anti-Jewish. I'm gonna watch it now.

It's not anti-Jewish. There isn't even a Jewish-like character in the movie. Unless, people here think all high-level bankers are Jewish--which I think is anti-semetic. Hmmmmm....

The cartoon more reminds me of the old George Carlin bit here:

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Navinabob
05-14-12, 06:04 PM
It's not anti-Jewish. There isn't even a Jewish-like character in the movie. Unless, people here think all high-level bankers are Jewish--which I think is anti-semetic. Hmmmmm....

The cartoon more reminds me of the old George Carlin bit here:

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Rothschilds = Evil Jews who secretly rule the world according to conspiracy nuts and White Supremacists.

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Rothschild_family

PatD
05-14-12, 06:07 PM
Rothschilds = Evil Jews who secretly rule the world according to conspiracy nuts and White Supremacists.

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Rothschild_family


Oh. Neeeeeeeevermiiiiind. *shows self out*

Navinabob
05-14-12, 06:16 PM
Oh. Neeeeeeeevermiiiiind. *shows self out*

No biggie, you're good. Its those "true believers" we have on this forum that worry me. :tinfoil:

mosquitobite
05-14-12, 06:41 PM
So because the family in question (Rothschild) is Jewish anyone that believes the film has any basis in reality is anti-Semitic? :rolleyes:

Isn't that the same BS argument of racism used against those who think Obama stinks as a President?

How about the real wiki page instead of your biased one there Navinabob?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rothschild
The most notable family with this surname are the descendants of Mayer Amschel Rothschild who formed a European financial dynasty that was during the 19th century perhaps the wealthiest family by the scale of their private fortune in modern history.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rothschild_family

A popularly-alleged quote by Mayer Amschel Rothschild is displayed:
"Give me control of a nation's money supply, and I care not who makes its laws.

The narrator in the film then states "[Rothschild] knew that he and the other bankers would now control the laws of the nation," which gives the impression that Rothschild was involved in passing the Federal Reserve Act. The Federal Reserve Act was passed, however, in 1913; Rothschild died in 1812. Paul M. Warburg, [I]a representative of the Rothschild banking dynasty in England and France, did play an essential role in the creation of the Federal Reserve

I am fully able to separate out the fact that even though I believe the Rothschilds are evil humans I do not place the blame on the rest of the Jewish race. K? Tx!

The Bus
05-15-12, 06:54 AM
<i>*fasts forwards to a random time in the video (8:30)*

*hears ominous music*</i>

"The Fed..."

Yeah, that was enough.

Navinabob
05-15-12, 02:17 PM
So because the family in question (Rothschild) is Jewish anyone that believes the film has any basis in reality is anti-Semitic? :rolleyes:

Isn't that the same BS argument of racism used against those who think Obama stinks as a President?

How about the real wiki page instead of your biased one there Navinabob?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rothschild


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rothschild_family

I am fully able to separate out the fact that even though I believe the Rothschilds are evil humans I do not place the blame on the rest of the Jewish race. K? Tx!

Please note that the wiki page you showed has a section on the conspiracy theory in question.

Now Google "Rothschild Conspiracy".

You should get a billion nut-jobs results from a billion different nut-jobs out there. The fact that a wiki article exists that has historical information on the family is meaningless since the family existing isn't in question, it is the bullshit extrapolated from that information and woven into horseshit that it. Again, my link was not discussing the fact that the family was once very powerful (or has some power today), but that the root of that video is a conspiracy theory based off of old antisemitism. I'm not saying you are a racist, but I am saying you swallowed bullshit built from racism that spawned this new world order garbage.

This is not a debate as there is no debating you. If you don't know that the Nathan Rothschild story about insider trading and the secretly ruling England in 1815 was a myth circulated by antisemitic fear mongers, I doubt I can convince you. I'm sure you believe, like the film's authors, that the JFK assassination is linked to executive order 1110, but that is a bullshit conspiracy theory as well and I'm sure you can't be swayed from it.

I'd consider again suggesting you to the critical thinking, logical fallacies, and skeptic resources I had previously directed you to, but I feel it would be a waste. The very best you'd ever become is the person on a Bigfoot-lives website laughing at the people claiming to have proof that Loch Ness monster is real.

Groucho
05-15-12, 02:22 PM
Come on guys, it's just the Evil Jews that are in on this conspiracy...not the good Jews...some of my best friends are Jews...come on, guys...

Screwadu
05-15-12, 03:30 PM
First they came for the Evil Jews, and I said nothing, for I was not Evil Jewish.