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foofighters7
05-13-12, 10:30 PM
Might have been referenced in another thread but not sure.

It seems very probable that 2012 could produce the largest grosses of all time in film.

The Hunger Games
The Avengers
Dark Knight Rises
Battleship
MIB 3
Brave
GI JOE
Amazing Spider Man
Ice Age
Bourne Legacy
Expendables 2
Paranormal Activity 4
Skyfall
Twilight
The Hobbit

Just to name some of the larger ones.

Seeing that The Avengers is close to 1 Billion right now Internationally, this could be a gigantic year.
Could it perhaps be too grand a year? Have the regular movie going audience already chose their blockbuster to attach themselves too? Will the amount of 'big' movies actually hurt the potential box office revenue, or will people just keep plunking down the cash for blockbuster film after film?

Matthew Chmiel
05-13-12, 11:00 PM
The Hunger Games has a solid shot of doing $400 million domestically if Lionsgate does (another) theatrical rerelease towards the end of the summer. If not, it'll end just shy of the mark.

The Avengers will end its total run in North America over $550 million based upon how its trending. I also do think its got a solid shot of breaking the worldwide $1.4 billion barrier to top Harry Potter (as I don't think any film is going to come close to Titanic and Avatar's record for a long time).

The Dark Knight Rises is guaranteed $400 million plus domestically based upon the box office performance and video sales and rentals of the last film alone.

2009 is still the highest year on record with:

1 film at $750 million+ (Avatar).
1 film at $400 million+ (Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen).
1 film at $300 million+ (Harry Potter and the Half Blood Prince).
7 films at $200 million +.
22 films at $100 million +.

All in all, 32 films that eclipsed the elusive $100 million barrier.

Right now? 2012 has a rousing 7 films that have eclipsed the elusive $100 million barrier and we're nearly at the half way mark.

Battleship, The Bourne Legacy, The Expendables 2, and Paranormal Activity 4 are four films on your list that most are questioning will even get to the $100 million mark based upon poor tracking or past entry performance. Men in Black 3, The Amazing Spider-man, and Ice Age are tracking to perform decently, but not as well as past franchise entries.

We could still have some surprise hits pop out, but yes, based upon the fact this year has some of the most anticipated films of all time, this may be the year to top 2009.

Dr Mabuse
05-13-12, 11:24 PM
Impossible.

Piracy is killing the film industry, haven't you heard?

JaxComet
05-13-12, 11:25 PM
I'm thinking Battleship and the Expendables 2 will be dogs.....

foofighters7
05-13-12, 11:30 PM
Yeah 09' was a huge year.

I actually forgot about a few that came out that year.

Still COULD happen for this year.

12' could end up having more over 100mil.

Possible 100+ers-
Snow White and Huntsman
Rock of Ages
Abraham Lincoln Vampire Hunter
Prometheus
Total Recall
Resident Evil
Taken 2
Rise of the Guardians
Lincoln
Django Unchained

It could be close.

Rypro 525
05-13-12, 11:33 PM
^unless Lincolin ends up being like an arthouse 100 million (see Black Swan/Slumdog Millionaire) i doubt it

foofighters7
05-13-12, 11:37 PM
It's very possible.

it's not an arthouse film. It's Steven Spielbergo and it about one of, if not the most liked Presidents. Could bring the people out. Shoot, his terrible Horse movie made 80mil in the U.S. Alone.

Matthew Chmiel
05-13-12, 11:38 PM
^unless Lincolin ends up being like an arthouse 100 million (see Black Swan/Slumdog Millionaire) i doubt it
War Horse did $80 million and I doubt Lincoln will do any better. I love Spielberg and Daniel Day Lewis, but look at all the fucks I give on seeing a film about Lincoln's time in office.

Resident Evil will not do over $100 million considering none of them have grossed over $60 million domestically.

The rest? All up in the air.

foofighters7
05-13-12, 11:40 PM
Yes, Resident Evil was a stretch but Lincoln is certainly not.

Matthew Chmiel
05-13-12, 11:46 PM
Yes, Resident Evil was a stretch but Lincoln is certainly not.
Spielberg's non-tentpole pictures don't tend to do well at the box office as they're more vanity projects than anything else. Not saying that's a bad thing as some of them are quite excellent, but they don't attract interest from audiences.

The Color Purple. Empire of the Sun. Always. Schindler's List. Amistad. A.I. Artificial Intelligence. The Terminal. Munich. The Adventures of Tintin. War Horse. All did under $100 million domestically despite being some of the best films he's ever put out. Hell, Spielberg would be the one of the greatest directors to ever lived if his output was more like Empire of the Sun and less like Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull (which is his third highest grossing film to date :().

PenguinJoe
05-13-12, 11:54 PM
I don't know about Battleship, its not something i would pay to see.

Also, I had no clue the were doing another Bourne Identity movie. I thought Damon was done after Ultimatum.

Drexl
05-13-12, 11:57 PM
I'm pretty sure Tintin was NOT a vanity project. :)

What about Les Miserables? I think it has a chance to crack $100m, but it's really hard to predict the box office take of a musical.

Defiant1
05-14-12, 12:08 AM
Also, I had no clue the were doing another Bourne Identity movie. I thought Damon was done after Ultimatum.

Damon's not in it. Jeremy Renner headlines the latest installment as another Treadstone or Blackbriar agent.

2012 is looking quite promising for box office though. Although we won't have an Avatar-sized hit, we are looking at possibly 5 or 6 titles in the $350M+ range.

foofighters7
05-14-12, 12:35 AM
I don't know about Battleship, its not something i would pay to see.

Also, I had no clue the were doing another Bourne Identity movie. I thought Damon was done after Ultimatum.

Battleship looks moronic on every level, therefore it will be a sure hit!

The Bourne movie won't have Damon but the Bourneyness of it should still push it well over 100mil.

As for Lincoln, we shall see. I see it pulling in about 109mil in the U.S. but it's certainly possible to come in under 100. I can see a variety of people wanting to see it and push it which makes me think 100+.

GuessWho
05-14-12, 12:38 AM
I don't think Batman will do as well as the last one. A lot of people went specifically to see Heath Ledger's highly-touted and final performance. The new one just seems like another great superhero movie but it doesn't have that added factor.

davidh777
05-14-12, 04:38 AM
What about Les Miserables? I think it has a chance to crack $100m, but it's really hard to predict the box office take of a musical.

Good question. The target audience is the folks who've seen it a dozen times on stage, but that will depend on how good the movie is. Then if it can reach out to non-musical fans like Chicago did, all the better.

bdshort
05-14-12, 04:58 AM
Yeah, I'm still wondering how much of a factor Ledger was in The Dark Knight's success. TDKR looks fantastic and is my #1 most anticipated movie this summer, but I wouldn't be surprised if it doesn't quite match TDK.

Nick Danger
05-14-12, 05:35 AM
Bigger and bigger years are inevitable. As the standard of living continues to go up around the world, there will be ever greater number of people who buy movie tickets. Also, the US dollar inflates a few percent each year. After enough years, the $700 million earned by Star Wars, an amount that was off the charts in 1977, comes within reach of ordinary tentpole films.

The Bus
05-14-12, 05:40 AM
Film revenues generally increase year over year. I know there was a down year recently (2009? 2010?) but "the highest grossing year of all time" is usually the year we are living in.

Once China gets fully cinema'd up, and more movies (like <b>Iron Man 3</b>) are Chinese co-productions, the share of box office gross that the US does will shrink steadily. Most of us will see $5bn+ films in our lifetime.

PenguinJoe
05-14-12, 07:34 AM
Snow White and The Huntsman looks good.

Taken 2? How many daughters does Liam Neeson's character have?

Obi-Wan Jabroni
05-14-12, 08:17 AM
Almost every year is the highest grossing year of all time.

RichC2
05-14-12, 08:52 AM
Yeah, I'm still wondering how much of a factor Ledger was in The Dark Knight's success. TDKR looks fantastic and is my #1 most anticipated movie this summer, but I wouldn't be surprised if it doesn't quite match TDK.

As I mentioned in another thread, I think a bigger issue is the fact it was The Joker. That's sort of one of the legendary bad guys in comic book history. Bane? Popular, but drastically less so.


Almost every year is the highest grossing year of all time.

Yup, as prices go up the gross gets bigger despite the argument that piracy is killing the industry. 2009 was the first year to break $10b domestic, 2010 and 2011 also broke $10b but were both below 2009 (and 2011 was below 2010). It's considered a failed year if the current year doesn't beat the previous year and exhibitors start freaking out. Good luck 2013, it's going to be hell beating this year.

Deftones
05-14-12, 10:32 AM
Taken 2? How many daughters does Liam Neeson's character have?

From what I've read, the plot is based on some of the people he took out. Apparently they are after his character and trying to take him.

Mondo Kane
05-14-12, 01:58 PM
As I mentioned in another thread, I think a bigger issue is the fact it was The Joker. That's sort of one of the legendary bad guys in comic book history. Bane? Popular, but drastically less so.


I agree about Joker's status, but I think one of the main selling points is that more people are starting to become aware that this will be the last Batman movie for some time (Almost giving it a Deathly Hollows Part 2 kind-of push)

foofighters7
12-03-12, 11:43 AM
just a bump.

we've had some surprises this year. I don't think too many people would have guessed 'Ted' would have made over 200 mil.

Several films went over 100 mil that I was shocked over.

Taken 2 was a bit of a shock. 21 Jumpstreet shocked we somewhat. Magic Mike and Argo going over 100 is noteworthy.

I think 'Lincoln' will go over the 100 mil mark as well.

Without looking at specifics It seems this year will be stronger than last year, but yeah it's not topping the 09' Avatard year.

Groucho
12-03-12, 11:55 AM
I, for one, am shocked that movies gross more as the population increases and ticket prices go up.

Matthew Chmiel
12-03-12, 01:42 PM
As of this past weekend, 2012's box office sits at $9.94B. It'll surpass last year's no doubt, especially with The Hobbit coming out in two weeks. However, it has $620M plus to go from coming close to 2010 (and another $30M to hit 2009).

Bandoman
12-03-12, 03:36 PM
This can't be true. I've read that piracy and illegal file sharing is killing the movie industry.

auto
12-03-12, 11:44 PM
You read that in this thread.

PopcornTreeCt
12-04-12, 12:08 AM
Looks like Lincoln is on its way to doing $100 million. Interestingly, I know of no one that has seen it.

Lt Ripley
12-04-12, 12:24 AM
Adjust for inflation, then tell me the numbers.

foofighters7
12-04-12, 12:49 AM
Looks like Lincoln is on its way to doing $100 million. Interestingly, I know of no one that has seen it.


I seen it but I'm not very happy about it.

Ash Ketchum
12-04-12, 06:39 AM
Looks like Lincoln is on its way to doing $100 million. Interestingly, I know of no one who has seen it.

Somebody's spreading the word that it's a movie about a Republican politician.

whoopdido
12-04-12, 09:14 AM
Somebody's spreading the word that it's a movie about a Republican politician.

Who whole heartedly believed in segregation and that black folks were inferior.

inri222
12-04-12, 11:36 AM
Who whole heartedly believed in segregation and that black folks were inferior.

And the truth shall set you free.

foofighters7
12-31-12, 04:54 PM
well, amazingly enough 2012 turned out to be the highest grossing year to date, if that means anything.

http://insidemovies.ew.com/2012/12/31/box-office-report-2012/

Defiant1
12-31-12, 06:22 PM
well, amazingly enough 2012 turned out to be the highest grossing year to date, if that means anything.

http://insidemovies.ew.com/2012/12/31/box-office-report-2012/

Who's paying $7.94 for a movie ticket? Damn, where I live, it's $12 for a basic ticket, going up to $19 for IMAX 3D.

foofighters7
12-31-12, 06:25 PM
Tickets where I live are around 6.50-8.00.

I go to Louisville to see films. The places I go range from 7.50-10.00

arminius
12-31-12, 06:25 PM
Why isn't number of tickets sold used rather than box office?

GatorDeb
12-31-12, 06:25 PM
Here you can get them as low as $5 at one particular chain for any matinee/first showing, everyday, every movie (2D). Another chain has them at $8.

Hokeyboy
12-31-12, 07:17 PM
Why isn't number of tickets sold used rather than box office?
Because number of tickets sold tell us nothing about gross revenue. Adjusting for inflation tells a better picture, although it's still slanted. More people went to the movies in the past, as there was far fewer ways to watch movies in 1975 as there are in 2012. Cable, streaming, home video, etc. was barely a factor 30 years ago.

Mattflix
01-02-13, 11:16 AM
Yeah "Highest Grossing" isn't a great way to measure a film's success in comparison to older movies. Inflation and changing industry both majorly affect it.

They say if you adjust for inflation Gone With the Wind was by far the highest grossing film ever. But you have to remember at the time the only way you could see the movie was to go to the theater. You couldn't wait a few months to catch it on video, and if you wanted to see it again you'd have to go to the theater again. I beleive this one ran for as long as a few years in the theaters as well.

I always wanted to see ongoing stats for movie revenue in all formats. For example, I can buy Jaws on Blu-Ray, but that will never get counted towards the movie's revenue in these sorts of lists. We'll just see it's theatrical run in 1975 and that's it. My purchasing of it on VHS, DVD and Blu-Ray will not count in any way, even though I was never around to see it in the theaters.

Jaymole
01-02-13, 12:21 PM
Yeah "Highest Grossing" isn't a great way to measure a film's success in comparison to older movies. Inflation and changing industry both majorly affect it.

They say if you adjust for inflation Gone With the Wind was by far the highest grossing film ever. But you have to remember at the time the only way you could see the movie was to go to the theater. You couldn't wait a few months to catch it on video, and if you wanted to see it again you'd have to go to the theater again. I beleive this one ran for as long as a few years in the theaters as well.



Another thing to consider about GWTW....back in 1939, there were 170 million less people living in America than today

Hokeyboy
01-05-13, 12:37 PM
Another thing to consider about GWTW....back in 1939, there were 170 million less people living in America than today
True, but also remember in 1939 the only outlet you had at home for popular entertainment was radio. People starved for visual entertainment went to the movies. Over and over again. And films were re-released in theaters to capitalize on this, as there were no television rebroadcasts, cable or home video. So box office was naturally much higher than now.

As kids, we saw Star Wars in the late 70s in theaters about a dozen times. With no cable or VCR until around 1982/83, it was the only way to catch the movies you loved, at least until they were broadcast on network television, and that usually took 5-6 years, at least. Nowadays, we get a Blu-Ray in 4 months...

PopcornTreeCt
01-05-13, 03:31 PM
And yet Hollywood still bitches about people torrenting their crap.