Movies you hate that everyone around you loves

[Jules Winfield]

I hate Top Gun. To me, it's emptier and more shallow than every Michael Bay movie put together. Yet, I hear many people and even other movies quote this movie like its the fucking gospel. I will never know what Top Gun has to offer. What movies do you hate that others just seem to love?

[Solid Snake PAC]

Transformers..all those Bay films. Aside from my fellow film students...every person I know around here loves them. I like bits and pieces..but I'll be damned if I love the films themselves.

and on the not hate but get annoyed that people praise it like crazy scale:

The Dark Knight. Look...I really really like the film. I do. I enjoy the fuck out of it. But it's not perfect. Very fucking well directed..but it has plot holes that people heavily overlook cuz it's a damn well made thing.

[clckworang]

I'm sure I can think of a couple more, but these were the first ones off the top of my head:

Forrest Gump
Crash
300

I realize those first two movies have very vocal detractors online, but in person, I haven't seen that and have actually been in some very heated discussions about them.

[argh923]

Avatar. Most overrated piece of crap I've ever seen.

[Dr. DVD]

Forrest Gump-I liked it when I was younger and felt I had to in order to fit with regular people, but then I realized regular people were kind of boring

American Pie-initially liked it and owned the DVD when it first came out . Once every apartment visitor wanted to watch it, and every comedy after it started imitating its gross out style, began to hate it.

Days of Thunder- I just do

[nando820]

Transformers..all those Bay films. Aside from my fellow film students...every person I know around here loves them. I like bits and pieces..but I'll be damned if I love the films themselves.

and on the not hate but get annoyed that people praise it like crazy scale:

The Dark Knight. Look...I really really like the film. I do. I enjoy the fuck out of it. But it's not perfect. Very fucking well directed..but it has plot holes that people heavily overlook cuz it's a damn well made thing.

i think u hate yourself for loving it so much

[Jaymole]

Just thinking of Academy award winning films:

Braveheart
Forrest Gump
Titanic

[inri222]

Saving Private Ryan

[foofighters7]

Avatar, Fast and the Furious movies, Crash (Bullock movie), The Hurt Locker (I don't Actually hate it, I just find that I hate it when people talk to well of it. It was pretty good but nothing more).

[starman9000]

300, though people don't admit to that as much any more, sort of like Limp Bizkit and Creed and fans.

[brayzie]

War of the Worlds by Spielberg.

[Tom Creo]

The Hangover. Fuck that movie. ALso, throw in the American Pie films.

[Mabuse]

Some Like It Hot - Not especially funny, not especially interesting. I like a lot of Wilders other films A LOT more. The Apartment isn't really a comedy and yet it has more laughs than SLIH. When people say this is the BEST comedy of all time I roll my eyes. I don't know what people see in this movie.

[Mr. Cinema]

American Beauty

[coli]

Forrest Gump first comes to mind. I never liked it in 1994, and will never understand the love for the movie in 2012.

[Noonan]

I used to think Shawshank was the most boring movie I ever had to sit through. Took me 4 tries to watch it since I kept falling asleep. I appreciate it more now but still don't find it to be nearly as good as the majority. Probably because Tim Robbins annoys me quite a bit.

[Michael Corvin]

Mostly comedies for me... anything Jackass, Sandler, Carey, or Borat type stuff I just can't get into. Never got the love for Superbad or Pineapple Express either.

[Ash Ketchum]

Forrest Gump first comes to mind. I never liked it in 1994, and will never understand the love for the movie in 2012.

I would add another overrated film from 1994: THE SHAWSHANK REDEMPTION.

In fact, if they'd combined the films and replaced Tim Robbins' character in SHAWSHANK with Hanks' Gump and left the basic plot structure of SHAWSHANK in place, only have everything that happens be the result of dumb luck and serendipity rather than careful planning, I might have liked that result a lot better.

[whoopdido]

No Country For Old Men. Similar to some other comments, I don't necessarily HATE it, but really don't like it very much. I've just resigned to the fact that I'm in the minority because I haven't met anybody yet that doesn't love that movie. Just one of those things I keep my mouth shut about because I'd rather not be the 1% that argues with the 99%.

[Ash Ketchum]

Just one of those things I keep my mouth shut about because I'd rather not be the 1% that argues with the 99%.

There's a certain 1% I'd rather be in than the 99% I'm stuck in! :D

[Jules Winfield]

Some Like It Hot - Not especially funny, not especially interesting. I like a lot of Wilders other films A LOT more. The Apartment isn't really a comedy and yet it has more laughs than SLIH. When people say this is the BEST comedy of all time I roll my eyes. I don't know what people see in this movie.

I don't hate the movie but strongly agree that I get a little flustered when people point this out as one of the greatest comedies and Billy Wilder's best. The Apartment, Sunset Boulevard, Stalag 17 are better. I think Some like it Hot is my least favorite Wilder movie that I've seen. Maybe it's just because it has Marilyn Monroe? I don't fucking know.

[Unclejosh]

Bridesmaids. I thought it was ok, but due to all the praise and success, I now hate it for being so overrated.

[iggystar]

Moulin Rouge - If it weren't for inconveniencing other people down my aisle I would have walked out. And I was at a dollar movie, when it actually cost a dollar. Everyone pretty much seems to love it though, go figure.

I'm not going to lie, I've seen my fair share of classics that I've adored, but Breakfast at Tiffany's did nothing for me.

[Shannon Nutt]

Gladiator
American Beauty
The English Patient
Fight Club
The Usual Suspects

[dex14]

Boondock Saints. Fuck that trash and all the douches in bars who think its the "greatest fuckin movie ever broooo!"

[Sierra Disc]

Avatar. Most overrated piece of crap I've ever seen.

BUt going by the Internet everyone hates this one!

[scott1598]

Boondock Saints. Fuck that trash and all the douches in bars who think its the "greatest fuckin movie ever broooo!"

i actually liked part II better.

[Quake1028]

Avengers.



:p

[argh923]

Here's another one: Grease.

No Country For Old Men. Similar to some other comments, I don't necessarily HATE it, but really don't like it very much. I've just resigned to the fact that I'm in the minority because I haven't met anybody yet that doesn't love that movie. Just one of those things I keep my mouth shut about because I'd rather not be the 1% that argues with the 99%.

I disliked this movie completely - as well as pretty much every other Coen Bros. movie I've ever seen. I know they're the internet darlings, but I honestly am bored to tears by all of their movies, and don't see any of them as the "masterpieces" they claim to be.

[Daytripper]

The Hangover. Fuck that movie. ALso, throw in the American Pie films.

Beat me to it. While I don't HATE it, hate it, I will never get all the love for "The Hangover". Laughed twice. And while I don't think everyone loves it, I absolutely loathe "Moulin Rouge".

[The Bus]

I don't hate it, but the only time I saw <b>Spider-man</b>, I fell asleep in the packed theater.

[kefrank]

I don't hate it, but the only time I saw <b>Spider-man</b>, I fell asleep in the packed theater.
Funny, the one that comes to mind for me is Spider-man 2. Everyone holds that up as a pinnacle of comic book movies, but I found it laughably bad.

[CloverClover]

Everything by Fincher is poseur junk masquerading as high art, yet it is adored. Seems that the darker/cooler it comes across, the more people will think they're witnessing something important.

Avatar. Most overrated piece of crap I've ever seen.

This. I couldn't fathom how seemingly overnight, mankind's standards fell that far, let alone being called the new star wars.

[Solid Snake PAC]

Funny, the one that comes to mind for me is Spider-man 2. Everyone holds that up as a pinnacle of comic book movies, but I found it laughably bad.

it's got it's super high ups and super low lows..and a lot of "ok" in the middle. Do people not get tired of MJ being a damsel in distress twice in a row? 3rd time when SM3 came out. I fucking found it laughable when she tried to clock Doc Ock w/ that board. Bitch...please....

[clckworang]

Saving Private Ryan

I almost named this one as well. I stopped short because I don't hate it; I just find it completely overrated. I just don't think the story matched some of the incredible visuals.

300, though people don't admit to that as much any more, sort of like Limp Bizkit and Creed and fans.

I still get in arguments about this one! I thought it was just silly. I actually had a hard time making it through that one.

Here's another one: Grease.

Good call!

[tommyp007]

Dumb and Dumber

[RoboDad]

While I'm not a big fan of the Nolan Batman films, most of the people around me aren't really, either. We all like the movies, but also find them much less than they could be.

However, Inception is another story. EVERYONE I know was pushing me to see that movie for the longest time, telling me how great it was, and how much I was going to love it. Well, not being a huge Nolan fan, I resisted. I never saw it in the theater or bought or rented the DVD. I waited until it was available during a free HBO weekend. Then I recorded it and watched it, and disliked every minute of the experience.

[Jules Winfield]

Some of you people are crazy. I did ask for it though.

[alanstar@erols.com]

The Big Lebowski. I've tried THREE separate times to watch this, because its so beloved. And I turned it off all three times; I found it to be so bad it was unwatchable for me. And I love all the other Coen Brothers movies!

Forrest Gump is up there on my list as well. Robin Wright redeems it a bit, but not enough.

[DaveyJoe]

The Departed. I liked Infernal Affairs so much better. It accomplished much more in almost an hour less screen time. The Departed had a bloated script with unnecessary side characters and a ridiculous love triangle. Nicholson phones it in while DiCaprio overacts. Damon does a good job but his character is pathetic compared to his Chinese counterpart. Scorsese is on auto pilot, even reusing a song in a montage from a previous film. Highly disappointing.

[Strevlac]

Memento
The Dark Knight
Inception
The Prestige
Hard Eight
Boogie Nights
Magnolia
There Will Be Blood
Fight Club
Spiderman 1 and 2
Pi
Requiem For A Dream
The Fountain
The Wrestler
The Black Swan
Fish Tank
X-men 1 & 2, First Class
Serenity
The Cabin In The Woods
Drive
Back To The Future 2 & 3
Home Alone
Die Hard With A Vengeance
Live Free Or Die Hard

[Dvdlovr24]

Step Brothers- I just don't get what's so great about it.

[Mike86]

However, Inception is another story. EVERYONE I know was pushing me to see that movie for the longest time, telling me how great it was, and how much I was going to love it. Well, not being a huge Nolan fan, I resisted. I never saw it in the theater or bought or rented the DVD. I waited until it was available during a free HBO weekend. Then I recorded it and watched it, and disliked every minute of the experience.
It actually seems to me like Inception is the cool thing to hate on by Internet fanboys. It was popular at first and then everyone started saying how much it sucked. I still don't think it's that bad and most of the people who hate on it seem to take it too seriously. It's a sci-fi heist movie pretty much. No more, no less.

As for the topic, I hated Avatar. Such an overrated movie if you ask me and I just didn't get the hype at all.

[JumpCutz]

Some have already been mentioned....

Top Gun
Mission Impossible (the entire franchise)
Transformers (all of em)
There Will Be Blood
Inception
The Dark Knight
E.T.
Die Hard
True Lies
Avatar
Titanic
Sin City
The Departed
The Hangover
The Sixth Sense
Iron Man

[Strevlac]

Some have already been mentioned....

Top Gun
Mission Impossible (the entire franchise)
Transformers (all of em)
There Will Be Blood
Inception
The Dark Knight
E.T.
Die Hard
True Lies
Avatar
Titanic
Sin City
The Departed
The Hangover
The Sixth Sense
Iron Man

You talkin' 'bout the original Die Hard?

[JumpCutz]

You talkin' 'bout the original Die Hard?

Indeed I am. Though to be fair... it is the best of the series.

[argh923]

Oh, I'm glad E.T. was mentioned. Another incredibly overrated movie. Yawn.

[Solid Snake PAC]

I have to admit...Die Hard is rarely hated. In fact...that would the first time I've heard of a hate for it. I'd like to know why on that one? This is like...unique.

[Strevlac]

Yeah, first I've heard of anyone hating Die Hard. Even critics, even though it did recieve some lukewarm reviews at the time of release. Not hating on you JumpCutz. Most of the films you list are indeed rotten.

But anyone who hates E.T. is a stinking, filthy whore.

[Mabuse]

Step Brothers- I just don't get what's so great about it.

It's not that great, but it has a couple of scenes that are so funny they have to be seen.

[Nick Danger]

E.T. (Oh, so now he can fly!)
Jurassic Park (I was rooting for the dinosaurs to get those stupid kids).
A.I. (That poor little household appliance.)

I'm noticing a pattern here. Completely unrealistic, romanticized child-things. An overload of smarm. Steven Spielberg.

[foxdvd]

Dark Knight. Amazing performances, but bloated. I also hate the editing in that movie. The action is almost unwatchable.

Nolan "was" overrated to me. Memento was cool, but not great. Batman Begins never felt like it actually begins anything. The prestige was probably my favorite movie of his, but no more than a 3 star movie at best. The Dark Knight might have the worst editing of a movie to be nominated for an editing Oscar...

Then came along Inception. I went on a date to that movie because my friend said she heard it was good. I was blown away. Here was FINALLY a Nolan movie that worked for me. More importantly, Lee Smith seemed to finally figure out how to edit action. It ended up being my favorite movie of the year.

[RoboDad]

It actually seems to me like Inception is the cool thing to hate on by Internet fanboys.

And there's the typical response. I didn't like Inception, so I'm some kind of hipster Internet fanboy who gets off on hating what's popular.

You couldn't be more wrong, but thanks for playing.

[Dragon Tattoo]

However, Inception is another story. EVERYONE I know was pushing me to see that movie for the longest time, telling me how great it was, and how much I was going to love it. Well, not being a huge Nolan fan, I resisted. I never saw it in the theater or bought or rented the DVD. I waited until it was available during a free HBO weekend. Then I recorded it and watched it, and disliked every minute of the experience.

Sounds like you went into it wanting to dislike it. Obviously you would.

[Superboy]

There are very few movies that I hate that everyone loves. I would say that at the worst, I dislike a great deal of movies that are quite popular or well-reviewed, or I just think they're average, or just boring. But I don't hate them.

Now, on to the list:

1. The Lord of the Rings Trilogy. It felt empty, cheap, and had all the charm of the Star Wars prequels.

2. The Harry Potter films. Same reason.

3. The Pirates of the Caribbean films. Same reason.

4. Gladiator, and pretty much every historical war epic since then. Same reason.

[SkullOrchard]

The Big Lebowski. I've tried THREE separate times to watch this, because its so beloved. And I turned it off all three times; I found it to be so bad it was unwatchable for me.

Ditto. I just don't get it.

[Josh-da-man]

Top Gun (macho 80s bullshit)
Cocktail (big when I was in HS; found it dull and obvious)
Saturday Night Fever (never got the appeal)
Blake Edwards movies (shallow nonsense that thinks its profound)
Forrest Gump (mawkish bullshit)
Gladiator (boring, overwrought historical nonsense)
Braveheart (idib)

[Mike86]

And there's the typical response. I didn't like Inception, so I'm some kind of hipster Internet fanboy who gets off on hating what's popular.

You couldn't be more wrong, but thanks for playing.
Couldn't be more wrong? Why exactly because people liked it when it came out, it became popular with the mainstream, and then suddenly it became cool to hate it? I didn't call you a hipster either :lol: I just find it funny that the movie was pretty well liked at first and then when it gained popularity it became cool to hate on it by the Internet.

[Ash Ketchum]

Two more:

MAGNOLIA
ZODIAC

[brayzie]

Ditto. I just don't get it.

I guess it's a take on old detective story films based in LA, but with the twist that the private investigator is a reluctant hippie/slacker.

It was kind of funny/strange to see the cowboy narrator interact with the dude but I didn't think it was as great as people made it out to be.

[Pizza]

Avatar
Gladiator
300
A Beautiful Mind

Maybe if I see these movies again I'll have a different opinion but i hated them all so much the one time I saw them that I just can't go back to them again.

[The Bus]

Some obvious ones here, but also some of my favorite films.

[coli]

Gladiator is another one I don't get the love for. Now I thought it was an entertaining movie simply because Russell Crowe is a great actor, but Best Picture??? A good flick, but I have friends who absolutely love the movie.

[Arpeggi]

300
Lord of the Rings
Star Wars
The Avengers, Iron Man, Iron Man 2, The Incredible Hulk, Thor, Captain America, etc.

[Groucho]

The Shawshank Redemption
The Godfather
The Godfather Part II
Pulp Fiction
The Good The Bad and the Ugly
12 Angry Men
Schindler's List
The Dark Knight
The Return of the King (2003)
One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest

[Jaymole]

300
Lord of the Rings
Star Wars
The Avengers, Iron Man, Iron Man 2, The Incredible Hulk, Thor, Captain America, etc.

And how many of these films did you actually watch..or was the Avengers the only film you hated without seeing it?

[Osiris3657]

The Shawshank Redemption
The Godfather
The Godfather Part II
Pulp Fiction
The Good The Bad and the Ugly
12 Angry Men
Schindler's List
The Dark Knight
The Return of the King (2003)
One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest

Copied and pasted the IMDb top 10 eh?

http://media.weirdworm.com/img/misc/our-8-favorite-rage-comic-characters-a-case-study/trollface-coolguy.jpg

[Michael Corvin]

And how many of these films did you actually watch..or was the Avengers the only film you hated without seeing it?

:lol: DC fan.

[iggystar]

Some have already been mentioned....

Top Gun
Mission Impossible (the entire franchise)
Transformers (all of em)
There Will Be Blood
Inception
The Dark Knight
E.T.
Die Hard
True Lies
Avatar
Titanic
Sin City
The Departed
The Hangover
The Sixth Sense
Iron Man

Ok, so exactly what movies do you like?

I normally don't begrude anyone's opinion of movies, but I see clearly that some of you could never recommend a film to me.

[Hokeyboy]

1. Forrest Gump -- an empty-headed, emotionally manipulative, self-congratulatory pile of moronic tripe. This movie is evil. And not in that cool way.

2. Magnolia -- so awful I had to walk out of it the first time I saw it. 14 hours into it my back started having spasms and the story was going nowhere. All style and navel-gazing coinkydinkies in lieu of substance. I eventually went back to watch it again, thinking I must have missed something, given all the lieu of celebratory reviews from critics and valued friends alike. It was even worse. I still loathe this fucking masturbatory exercise posing as a movie. And I have really liked (Hard Eight, Punchdrunk Love) or absolutely loved (Boogie Nights, There Will Be Blood) the rest of PTA's filmography.

3. Gladiator -- An OK movie, but not a good one, far from a great one, and the BEST movie of 2000? Only if your brain has been replaced with cabbage. Great first act, and then the movie grinds to a screeching halt when the protagonist becomes a completely passive, reactive character for the rest of the movie. Which makes one wonder why anyone watching should give a crap (other than "Dude, but the kickass fight scenes!!" brigade). Upon which we pile plot contrivances and cliched idiocies that make no sense whatsoever, and string it along to make a "movie" with a nice, pat ending.

4. The Shawshank Redemption -- I just don't get the massive outpourings of slavish devotion and love. It's a good movie, don't get me wrong. I actually like it quite a bit. But it's a 3 out of 4 piece of entertainment at best.

5. Tombstone -- a gilded, surface-level bauble of entertainment, but little more. Seems to be adored by the masses as "one of the great Westerns", usually by many who haven't seen that many. Kasdan's "Wyatt Earp" was infinitely superior.

[Astrofan]

Couldn't be more wrong? Why exactly because people liked it when it came out, it became popular with the mainstream, and then suddenly it became cool to hate it? I didn't call you a hipster either :lol: I just find it funny that the movie was pretty well liked at first and then when it gained popularity it became cool to hate on it by the Internet.
I knew nothing about the movie when I saw it, and it was video when I saw it. I didn't like it after 5 minutes and it went downhill from there. If I had to watch one more expository scene (see it works like this it's five minutes at this level but ten at this, oh no here's another special exception that we didn't tell you about, etc.), I was going to blow my brains out. And then it turned into On Her Majesty's Secret
Service. Was I suppose to care about any of these people? And the woman on with her back to us and then the big reveal--big deal. I absolutely hated this movie.

[Astrofan]

Top Gun
Mission Impossible (the entire franchise)
Transformers (all of em)
There Will Be Blood
Inception
The Dark Knight
E.T.
Die Hard
True Lies
Avatar
Titanic
Sin City
The Departed
The Hangover
The Sixth Sense
Iron Man
Ok, so exactly what movies do you like?

I normally don't begrude anyone's opinion of movies, but I see clearly that some of you could never recommend a film to me.
This is what people say to me all the time. I agree with almost everything on this list except I'd add all Batman movies and real almost any movie based on a comic book character. However, I liked Sin City, but would never watch it again. I also liked The Hangover, which at first I was going to turn off, but liked when it turned into a puzzle movie at the scene in the hotel room. Also like There Will Be Blood, but I'll add No Country for All Men.

[RichC2]

The Boondock Saints - it's a boring piece of shit, yes a cat gets shot, who cares.

Equilibrium - I don't hate it, I just feel it's a direct-to-video grade piece of cheese scifi.

Serenity - also felt direct-to-video and derivative as hell (simply put, I was bored by it)

Spider-man - For some reason a lot of people seemed to really like it, I wasn't a fan. #2 was pretty good though.

[iggystar]

This is what people say to me all the time. I agree with almost everything on this list except I'd add all Batman movies and real almost any movie based on a comic book character. However, I liked Sin City, but would never watch it again. I also liked The Hangover, which at first I was going to turn off, but liked when it turned into a puzzle movie at the scene in the hotel room. Also like There Will Be Blood, but I'll add No Country for All Men.

Ok, so what movies do you like? I'm not being sarcastic, I'd really like to know.

Oh, I'll add Gladiator to the list. I thought it was average.

[Ash Ketchum]

I'm not going to lie, I've seen my fair share of classics that I've adored, but Breakfast at Tiffany's did nothing for me.

BREAKFAST AT TIFFANY'S is quite a problematic film on many levels, but it does offer one of the most mind-boggling, straight-faced Hollywood mash-ups I've ever seen: Buddy Ebsen stalking George Peppard in Manhattan's Central Park in broad daylight.

Yes, that's Jethro Clampett on the trail of Thomas Banacek. Or is it Barnaby Jones pursuing Hannibal Smith? Unforgettable scene, although, funnily enough, I don't recall the context. If I had my DVD handy, I'd get screen grabs.

[AndyCleveland]

1. Dolphin Tale
2. The Blind Side
3. Moulin Rouge

I try to see pretty much every major motion picture and as many "limited release" and indie films as possible each year. Dolphin Tale and Blind Side were both horrible. Moulin Rouge, despite everyone loving it, was one of the only films I actually walked out of in the middle. I have since tried watching it, but can't bring myself to get past it.

[RichC2]

1. Dolphin Tale
2. The Blind Side
3. Moulin Rouge

I try to see pretty much every major motion picture and as many "limited release" and indie films as possible each year. Dolphin Tale and Blind Side were both horrible. Moulin Rouge, despite everyone loving it, was one of the only films I actually walked out of in the middle. I have since tried watching it, but can't bring myself to get past it.

Everybody loves Moulin Rouge? That's news to me, that movie was fucking horrible.

Still haven't seen Dolphin Tale or Blind Side.

[DieselsDen]

The MATRIX films (really can't stand them)

The LORD OF THE RINGS films (well-made, but held no interest for me)

The HARRY POTTER films (never read the books, but then again, that
shouldn't matter)

The first two SPIDER-MAN films (overrated; follows the Donner SUPERMAN films formula a bit too closely)

THE FIFTH ELEMENT

All the AMERICAN PIE films

GHOSTBUSTERS

[RoboDad]

Couldn't be more wrong? Why exactly because people liked it when it came out, it became popular with the mainstream, and then suddenly it became cool to hate it? I didn't call you a hipster either :lol: I just find it funny that the movie was pretty well liked at first and then when it gained popularity it became cool to hate on it by the Internet.

When you quote someone else in your post and then make a generalized statement, there is at least an implication that you are including the quoted person in that generalization. If that is not your intent, it is up to you to clarify.

I never stated that you were incorrect in your generalization. I only indicated that you were wrong, completely wrong, in including me in that category.

[Draven]

My big one is The Fifth Element. I feel like I'm taking crazy pills when anyone talks about that movie being "good". And it's not that I don't "get it" or people were overacting on purpose or it's supposed to be dumb. It's just garbage and nearly unwatchable..

[RoboDad]

Sounds like you went into it wanting to dislike it. Obviously you would.

Wanting to dislike it? No. Expecting to dislike it? Perhaps. I will concede that particular prejudice. But I do so with the understanding that it is not without precedent.

Having seen three Nolan films prior to Inception, I found them all to be rather uninteresting, and even more than a bit predictable. After the hype for Inception, and the strong recommendations from all (and I do mean all) of my close friends, I hoped I would have been wrong about that film. Some friends even went as far as to say that they thought the film was tailor-made for me. Unfortunately, they were wrong.

[RoboDad]

My big one is The Fifth Element. I feel like I'm taking crazy pills when anyone talks about that movie being "good". And it's not that I don't "get it" or people were overacting on purpose or it's supposed to be dumb. It's just garbage and nearly unwatchable..

I can easily see how you could feel that way. The Fifth Element is one of those love-it-or-hate-it movies, to be sure. I happen to fall into the "love it" camp, but I also recognize that I can't articulate why I love it. Maybe it is in part due to my irrational infatuation with Milla, or the way Bruce Willis' portrayal of "everyman" always seems to work for me, but whatever the reason, I do love it.

Now if you'll excuse me, I'm overdue for my crazy pills.

[Dr. DVD]

The MATRIX films (really can't stand them)

The LORD OF THE RINGS films (well-made, but held no interest for me)

The HARRY POTTER films (never read the books, but then again, that
shouldn't matter)

The first two SPIDER-MAN films (overrated; follows the Donner SUPERMAN films formula a bit too closely)

THE FIFTH ELEMENT

All the AMERICAN PIE films

GHOSTBUSTERS


I can understand why someone would dislike the others on your list, but Ghostbusters? :fart:

[Jules Winfield]

E.T.? Die Hard? Inception? Ghostbusters? Some of you need to be punched in the cock. But I respect your opinion. *Jules grits his teeth as he says it.*

[Mr. Flix]

The Big Lebowski
The Usual Suspects
Fight Club
The Goonies

And while I didn't hate it, I thought District 9 was way overrated.

[Jaymole]

E.T.? Die Hard? Inception? Ghostbusters? Some of you need to be punched in the cock. But I respect your opinion. *Jules grits his teeth as he says it.*

I was punched into the cock right before I saw E.T., so that may explain my hatred for it.

[Rockmjd23]

Can we just put "Every popular movie ever made" and be done with this?

[Hokeyboy]

Chalk me up as well for a deep loathing of Moulin Rouge. :up:

[iggystar]

I can easily see how you could feel that way. The Fifth Element is one of those love-it-or-hate-it movies, to be sure. I happen to fall into the "love it" camp, but I also recognize that I can't articulate why I love it. Maybe it is in part due to my irrational infatuation with Milla, or the way Bruce Willis' portrayal of "everyman" always seems to work for me, but whatever the reason, I do love it.

Now if you'll excuse me, I'm overdue for my crazy pills.

Yeah, I can see why people dislike The Fifth Element so much, but I'm squarely in the "love it" camp too. The film's whole asthetic is so different and I LOVE the score...love, love, love. The scene with Leeloo on the ledge of the building, the piece for that scene is so awesome. It's the exact moment I fell in love with the movie.

[iggystar]

Everybody loves Moulin Rouge? That's news to me, that movie was fucking horrible.



It's on all kinds of "top movie musicals" lists and I remember it being very popular and well-recieved. I'm beyond disliking it though, I hate it with the intensity of a thousand suns.

[coli]

GHOSTBUSTERS

I am not questioning your opinion, because it's your opinion. But I can honestly say you're the first person I have ever come across that hates Ghostbusters.

[modfather]

I'm really (not?) surprised by these movies. I can understand some polar movies like Big Lebowski, which I find to be absolutely HILARIOUS and watch it every 6 months or so. But I just don't get how people can HATE some of these movies.

Forrest Gump: Ok, it's schmaltzy, but it's still a fun movie. (The book is HILARIOUS, the sequel, not so much).
Shawshank: See Forrest. Book is great also!
Moulin Rouge: See Forrest
Ghostbusters: Huh?
E.T.: See Ghostbusters

These are just non-offensive movies - they're tent-pole movies that try to be appeal to everyone. I just can't figure out how someone could HATE them. It's like hating puppy dogs, fireworks, or candy (wouldn't it be great if they were all in one store - ;))

All kidding aside - I'd love to hear how people can hate movies like these, without resorting to name-calling! ;)

For me, I don't think I hate many movies that everyone loves, although if I had to pick one, I'd probably go with Saving Private Ryan. Wasn't even the best WWII movie that came out that year and I hate that it was BELOVED by all/reviewers/press. I thought it was the safest, mostest cookie-cutterest movie I'd seen in a long time.

[Jules Winfield]

I was punched into the cock right before I saw E.T., so that may explain my hatred for it.

I think you're mistaken. I think you punched yourself in the cock because it resembled E.T. after you saw the movie and realized you hated it.

[iggystar]

But I just don't get how people can HATE some of these movies.

Moulin Rouge: See Forrest


It was not fun to me, not even in a campy way. Fun, campy musical is Grease 2, Xanadu, not Moulin Rouge especially because I think it was made with the purpose of taking itself a bit seriously. It took original songs that I love, for instance "Like a Virgin" and had actors sing them horribly (in fact, that was the moment I mentally checked out). From what I remember, which isn't too much since the film hasn't graced these eyes since I originally saw it, it was jarring and disjointed, edited in that "flash before your eyes" way that I can..not stand. I don't like that kind of quick editing for my action movies, but I really won't tolerate it for a musical.

I get what you're saying. There are a few movies that have been listed in where I truly don't understand the hatred at all, but they are few. And if the person isn't a fan of the genre, they get a pass.

For instance, if you're a sci-fi lover I don't understand how you can hate: The Matrix

If you love superheroes/action I don't understand how you can hate: The Dark Knight

If you love dramatic films, I don't really understand how you can hate: The Shawshank Redemption

But even in those instances I get that some people do, in fact, hate these movies. If you were a friend of mine I might disown you for hating them though ;).

[madcougar]

Passion of the Christ. A snuff film about Jesus. Pass.

[Jaymole]

I think you're mistaken. I think you punched yourself in the cock because it resembled E.T. after you saw the movie and realized you hated it.

Ummm...no, that isn't possible...my cock definitely doesn't look friendly, it gives off more of an Alien vibe.

[RocShemp]

Ummm...no, that isn't possible...my cock definitely doesn't look friendly, it gives off more of an Alien vibe.

So you're uncircumcised?

[Jaymole]

So you're uncircumcised?

I'm afraid to look:(

[modfather]

It was not fun to me, not even in a campy way. Fun, campy musical is Grease 2, Xanadu, not Moulin Rouge especially because I think it was made with the purpose of taking itself a bit seriously. It took original songs that I love, for instance "Like a Virgin" and had actors sing them horribly (in fact, that was the moment I mentally checked out). From what I remember, which isn't too much since the film hasn't graced these eyes since I originally saw it, it was jarring and disjointed, edited in that "flash before your eyes" way that I can..not stand. I don't like that kind of quick editing for my action movies, but I really won't tolerate it for a musical.

I get what you're saying. There are a few movies that have been listed in where I truly don't understand the hatred at all, but they are few. And if the person isn't a fan of the genre, they get a pass.

For instance, if you're a sci-fi lover I don't understand how you can hate: The Matrix

If you love superheroes/action I don't understand how you can hate: The Dark Knight

If you love dramatic films, I don't really understand how you can hate: The Shawshank Redemption

But even in those instances I get that some people do, in fact, hate these movies. If you were a friend of mine I might disown you for hating them though ;).

I enjoyed Moulin Rouge, and am not a fan of that style of editing, ESPECIALLY in action movies, but I found the music/song liberties in MR to be fun and didn't take themselves seriously. Now, don't get me started on singers/bands who try to "modernize" a Beatles song - there's not much I hate more than that, but this seemed to be all in fun. /shrug

I agree with your other statements, though.

Don't get me wrong, I HATE plenty of movies, but they're all fairly widely hated: Matrix 2 & 3, SW prequels pop immediately to mind.

[lizard]

Fargo
Taxi Driver

Usually I avoid movies that I am pretty sure I won't like—it's not as if there aren't plenty of others to watch. On rare occasions I guess wrong. I also don't agree with the worship of The Godfather, but I didn't hate it when I trooped to the theater to see it with my friends (it was an "event movie" of the time). But I sure wasn't about to watch Godfather II, the one that really gets fans worked up.

[TomOpus]

I really don't hate any movies but I don't share the same enjoyment for movies like The Hangover.

[Hokeyboy]

But I just don't get how people can HATE some of these movies.

Forrest Gump: Ok, it's schmaltzy, but it's still a fun movie.
I don't find it particularly fun. Or funny. [cue Billy Crystal] Cloying, obnoxious, annoying, that comes in buckets. Feel-good Hallmark Card sentiments don't entertain me on any level. It's pandering at its most insulting level.
Moulin Rouge: See Forrest
I will admit Moulin Rouge is never boring. There's always something interesting enough to catch your attention. But it's still a loud, messy, shitty movie.
Ghostbusters: Huh?
Agreed with you there.
E.T.: See Ghostbusters
I don't hate E.T. -- I basically like it -- but I don't see the HUGE deal either. It's a rather pedestrian story, directed with style by Spielberg, but even when I saw it at age 11 in theaters, I had no idea why people were losing their shit over it. :shrug: For this kind of film, I infinitely prefer The Iron Giant.
These are just non-offensive movies - they're tent-pole movies that try to be appeal to everyone. I just can't figure out how someone could HATE them. It's like hating puppy dogs, fireworks, or candy (wouldn't it be great if they were all in one store - ;))
Lemme guess... you LOVED Marley & Me ;)

(Which I fucking hated)

Puppy dogs, fireworks, and candy are all fine and wonderful, but they're manipulative when used in lieu of anything interesting, compelling, challenging, or (for me) entertaining. It's the local talk radio conceit of whipping out the radio psychic whenever you want minority women to call in, and then claiming you're a champion of social affairs.

[iggystar]

I enjoyed Moulin Rouge, and am not a fan of that style of editing, ESPECIALLY in action movies, but I found the music/song liberties in MR to be fun and didn't take themselves seriously. Now, don't get me started on singers/bands who try to "modernize" a Beatles song - there's not much I hate more than that, but this seemed to be all in fun. /shrug

I agree with your other statements, though.

Don't get me wrong, I HATE plenty of movies, but they're all fairly widely hated: Matrix 2 & 3, SW prequels pop immediately to mind.

Oh, it's of note that I like musicals but HATE Glee and I'm not a huge remix person either. I don't think Moulin Rouge had a chance to win me over in the first place.

Lol, don't get me started on Matrix 2 & 3!

The thing is, I actually like quite a few movies that are generally reviled that for me were "so bad it's good", like Catwoman. But there are only a few beloved movies that I despise, one being Moulin Rouge. :D

[Shannon Nutt]

While I'm not a big fan of the Nolan Batman films, most of the people around me aren't really, either. We all like the movies, but also find them much less than they could be.

However, Inception is another story. EVERYONE I know was pushing me to see that movie for the longest time, telling me how great it was, and how much I was going to love it. Well, not being a huge Nolan fan, I resisted. I never saw it in the theater or bought or rented the DVD. I waited until it was available during a free HBO weekend. Then I recorded it and watched it, and disliked every minute of the experience.

I hated INCEPTION too. Oh, and I don't like THE PRESTIGE much, either. :)

[iggystar]

I don't hate E.T. -- I basically like it -- but I don't see the HUGE deal either. It's a rather pedestrian story, directed with style by Spielberg, but even when I saw it at age 11 in theaters, I had no idea why people were losing their shit over it. :shrug: For this kind of film, I infinitely prefer The Iron Giant.


Imagine me seeing it for the first time at age 20. I like it, but it's average for me at best.

[iggystar]

It's the local talk radio conceit of whipping out the radio psychic whenever you want minority women to call in, and then claiming you're a champion of social affairs.

What...are you talking about?

[modfather]

I don't find it particularly fun. Or funny. [cue Billy Crystal] Cloying, obnoxious, annoying, that comes in buckets. Feel-good Hallmark Card sentiments don't entertain me on any level. It's pandering at its most insulting level.

I will admit Moulin Rouge is never boring. There's always something interesting enough to catch your attention. But it's still a loud, messy, shitty movie.

Agreed with you there.

I don't hate E.T. -- I basically like it -- but I don't see the HUGE deal either. It's a rather pedestrian story, directed with style by Spielberg, but even when I saw it at age 11 in theaters, I had no idea why people were losing their shit over it. :shrug: For this kind of film, I infinitely prefer The Iron Giant.

Lemme guess... you LOVED Marley & Me ;)

(Which I fucking hated)

Puppy dogs, fireworks, and candy are all fine and wonderful, but they're manipulative when used in lieu of anything interesting, compelling, challenging, or (for me) entertaining. It's the local talk radio conceit of whipping out the radio psychic whenever you want minority women to call in, and then claiming you're a champion of social affairs.

Didn't see Marley & Me - wouldn't on a dare. The "Puppy dogs, fireworks, and candy store" is a Simpsons reference - Bart's "dream store". ;)

I loved the Forrest Gump book and wish they had stuck closer to the source material. IIRC, Forrest wasn't quite so loveably-dumb in the book: He makes bad decisions in the book, knowing they're probably bad, but with much funnier results. Overall, though, I think the movie is "cute", but I don't look at it as anything near a cinematic achievement or anything. I can understand thinking it's overrated, but hating it just seems a bit harsh. /shrug

I kind of feel the same about Moulin Rouge - it's a frenetic jumble of songs, movement, colours, and style over substance. But I kind of had the impression that it's not taking itself to seriously. I'm not trying to talk anyone into liking anything that they don't, though. Just raises my eyebrows a bit to hear someone say something like: "Man, I hate Pizza". Who in the hell hates Pizza? Or puppy dogs or fireworks or candy? ;)

[Hokeyboy]

What...are you talking about?
Bear in mind I'm a minority guy who used to read Tarot cards in college just to meet women... I'm definitely paying off karma at an exponential rate for that little ploy... :(

OK so I had an acquaintance who did local talk radio in the mid 90s. He was always complaining that he could never get callers on his show, especially Hispanic women (this was the Miami market, so if you can get Hispanic women listening and calling, your share went through the roof). One day he had a psychic come on as a guest and the phone lines were OFF. THE. CHAIN. Mostly Hispanic women, but a lot of black (and some white) women as well. Very few guys, minority or otherwise. And he ended up having the psychic on once a week, sometimes twice, but always regularly. His show ended up blowing chunks but for awhile he had some respectable numbers. But when he tried to do local topics of community interest... crash and burn.

My point of bringing THAT bit up is that it's a really cheap, manipulative tactic. Need to excite a certain demographic? Whip up that radio psychic. Wanna get people to love your movie and feel moved by it? Throw in a ton of puppies, especially if the beloved star dies at the end. Or have a mediocre pile of swill that ends with everyone singing some bouncy bubbly pop song as a finale. It's cheap. It's cliche. It's lame.

I hate talking babies too. In any capacity. It's creepy and demonic and it makes me want to go all 12 Monkeys on audiences... :mad:

[iggystar]

I kind of feel the same about Moulin Rouge - it's a frenetic jumble of songs, movement, colours, and style over substance. But I kind of had the impression that it's not taking itself to seriously. I'm not trying to talk anyone into liking anything that they don't, though. Just raises my eyebrows a bit to hear someone say something like: "Man, I hate Pizza". Who in the hell hates Pizza? Or puppy dogs or fireworks or candy? ;)

;)

I get it, there are certain movies that do this (see above with me and The Matrix) to certain people.

Ok really, who hates pizza...is there such a person?

[iggystar]

Bear in mind I'm a minority guy who used to read Tarot cards in college just to meet women... I'm definitely paying off karma at an exponential rate for that little ploy... :(

OK so I had an acquaintance who did local talk radio in the mid 90s. He was always complaining that he could never get callers on his show, especially Hispanic women (this was the Miami market, so if you can get Hispanic women listening and calling, your share went through the roof). One day he had a psychic come on as a guest and the phone lines were OFF. THE. CHAIN. Mostly Hispanic women, but a lot of black (and some white) women as well. Very few guys, minority or otherwise. And he ended up having the psychic on once a week, sometimes twice, but always regularly. His show ended up blowing chunks but for awhile he had some respectable numbers. But when he tried to do local topics of community interest... crash and burn.

My point of bringing THAT bit up is that it's a really cheap, manipulative tactic. Need to excite a certain demographic? Whip up that radio psychic. Wanna get people to love your movie and feel moved by it? Throw in a ton of puppies, especially if the beloved star dies at the end. Or have a mediocre pile of swill that ends with everyone singing some bouncy bubbly pop song as a finale. It's cheap. It's cliche. It's lame.

I hate talking babies too. In any capacity. It's creepy and demonic and it makes me want to go all 12 Monkeys on audiences... :mad:

Ok, from the context I kind of got that you don't dig movies that play on the audience's emotions by using cuddly or sentimental tropes, I just couldn't specifically link the psychic/radio business. I didn't realize it was an actual tactic and that it really worked.

[Hokeyboy]

^I guess I'm too becoming way too cynical in my middle age. :(

[Matto1020]

Anchorman

Was told I had to see it a second time with friends to truly enjoy it... it wasn't any better.

[iggystar]

^I guess I'm too becoming way too cynical in my middle age. :(

Lol, aren't we all?

I was asking because I honestly didn't know it was a thing. It's kind of funny and makes a little sense. I mean I don't believe in psychics, but there is obviously a demographic that does.

Anchorman

Was told I had to see it a second time with friends to truly enjoy it... it wasn't any better.

I love that movie so much, but can see it not being for everyone.

[Jules Winfield]

I don't hate E.T. -- I basically like it -- but I don't see the HUGE deal either. It's a rather pedestrian story, directed with style by Spielberg, but even when I saw it at age 11 in theaters, I had no idea why people were losing their shit over it. :shrug: For this kind of film, I infinitely prefer The Iron Giant.


I am basically a Spielberg whore. E.T. might've been the first movie I ever saw so I feel a little attached to it. The simplicity of it is what makes it work for me. I lost my shit over it because I wasnt properly potty trained yet.I prefer E.T. over Iron Giant so there. -ptth-

[wishbone]

Ok really, who hates pizza...is there such a person?http://i50.tinypic.com/33bfipg.jpg

"Who is this Pizza (http://forum.dvdtalk.com/11224717-post61.html) character?"

[Jaymole]

I am basically a Spielberg whore.

You need to be punched in your cock :)

[Hokeyboy]

http://i50.tinypic.com/33bfipg.jpg

"Who is this Pizza (http://forum.dvdtalk.com/11224717-post61.html) character?"

"I don't know what the hell you're talking about and I wish you'd shut up." :mad:

[Jules Winfield]

You need to be punched in your cock :)

The man made "Raiders of the Lost Ark" so I'll bend over for him anytime.-other-

[Jaymole]

I usually have a great deal of tolerance for Sci-fi films...it is my favorite genre...but Independence Day plunged to new depths of idiocy and heights of L.C.D. aspirations. It not only insults the intelligence of the audience, it beats the shit out of it and rapes it as well.

[Jaymole]

The man made "Raiders of the Lost Ark" so I'll bend over for him anytime.-other-

Save that for John Travolta :D

[Tarantino]

The Hunger Games.

[RoboDad]

I hated INCEPTION too. Oh, and I don't like THE PRESTIGE much, either. :)

:lol: Funny you should say that. I didn't mention it earlier, but that is one of the reasons I went into Inception with such low expectations. The same group of friends who all insisted I would love Inception had also insisted I would love The Prestige back when it came out. Bear in mind that when I saw that movie, the only other Nolan film I had seen was Batman Begins, so I didn't really have a preconceptions yet. Sure, BB wasn't my favorite movie, but it was OK for what it was (stupid tumbler notwithstanding). But sitting through The Prestige was quite a chore.

[Josh-da-man]

2. Magnolia -- so awful I had to walk out of it the first time I saw it. 14 hours into it my back started having spasms and the story was going nowhere. All style and navel-gazing coinkydinkies in lieu of substance. I eventually went back to watch it again, thinking I must have missed something, given all the lieu of celebratory reviews from critics and valued friends alike. It was even worse. I still loathe this fucking masturbatory exercise posing as a movie. And I have really liked (Hard Eight, Punchdrunk Love) or absolutely loved (Boogie Nights, There Will Be Blood) the rest of PTA's filmography.

I'm in the same boat. I love "Boogie Nights." It's one of those movies where there isn't wasted word or shot, the acting is great, it's visually dynamic, the pacing is perfect, and everything just comes together into greatness.

"Magnolia" is the exact opposite of that. Absolutely nothing in that movie works. The actors seem bored. The script is plodding. The characters aren't memorable, the direction just makes everything forgettable. The only thing I remember about that movie is Tom Cruise screaming "Respect the cock and tame the cunt!" And I probably wouldn't even remember that if it wasn't quoted so often when the movie came out.

[Nick Danger]

I am basically a Spielberg whore. E.T. might've been the first movie I ever saw so I feel a little attached to it. The simplicity of it is what makes it work for me. I lost my shit over it because I wasnt properly potty trained yet.I prefer E.T. over Iron Giant so there. -ptth-

I saw E.T. as an adult, and I hated it. I also saw the G.I. Joe cartoon for the first time as an adult, and thought it was dumb. But both E.T. and G.I. Joe get a lot of love from people who first saw them before their tastes matured.

The point of movies is to manipulate the emotions of the viewers. But Spielberg pulls on those strings so hard that they snap. I lose my willing suspension of disbelief. It's like watching a holocaust movie about a little Jewish boy who's retarded, is hiding from Nazis, is alcoholic, and whose puppy is dying of cancer. Spielberg pushes it too far.

If you love superheroes/action I don't understand how you can hate: The Dark Knight

I read superhero comics for more than fifteen years. I don't hate The Dark Knight, but I expect the fannish love to drop off the way it did for Gladiator and Titanic. It's too overwrought, the chase scene is interminable, and it would have been forgotten like Darkman if it hadn't been for the pre-existing comics fanbase.

[iggystar]

I read superhero comics for more than fifteen years. I don't hate The Dark Knight, but I expect the fannish love to drop off the way it did for Gladiator and Titanic. It's too overwrought, the chase scene is interminable, and it would have been forgotten like Darkman if it hadn't been for the pre-existing comics fanbase.

Beep, beep...does not compute.

My fannish love for it will never die!

But there isn't a movie that everyone loves, so I'm not mad, just don't get it even though you've explained yourself well.

[mattressman]

The first that comes to mind is Kids. Everyone seems to think it's a masterpiece but I really loathe it.
I remember enjoying one scene (the cab ride) and I liked the simple, disturbing premise but while watching it I feel like Larry Clark is trying to make me insane.
I'm pretty sure I've hated every Clark movie I've seen (not too big on that Harmony Korine character either) but Kids is the one that I always seem to be in the minority on.

[Jules Winfield]

I saw E.T. as an adult, and I hated it. I also saw the G.I. Joe cartoon for the first time as an adult, and thought it was dumb. But both E.T. and G.I. Joe get a lot of love from people who first saw them before their tastes matured.

The point of movies is to manipulate the emotions of the viewers. But Spielberg pulls on those strings so hard that they snap. I lose my willing suspension of disbelief. It's like watching a holocaust movie about a little Jewish boy who's retarded, is hiding from Nazis, is alcoholic, and whose puppy is dying of cancer. Spielberg pushes it too far.

Trust me, I am not a retarded nostalgia boob who loves everything that I grew up with. Loved Thundercats as a kid, What the fuck is this shit as an adult. I love the score, the performances, the simplistic story, and E.T. is as real to me as my balls. I did admit I have some attachment but it's also one of the few things I like as an adult that I liked as a kid.

I know a lot of people hate Spielberg's manipulations but it never bothered me. I think it's because I think he is so in love with the movies that he pours out every bit of sap and syrup he feels for them into his own movies. You can feel the love. Feel the love with me, Nick.-other-

[Astrofan]

I lose my willing suspension of disbelief. It's like watching a holocaust movie about a little Jewish boy who's retarded, is hiding from Nazis, is alcoholic, and whose puppy is dying of cancer.

Trust me, I am not a retarded nostalgia boob who loves everything that I grew up with.

"Retarded"? Really? Who let the 12 year olds onto the board? And to think one of them is a Firesign Theatre fan!

[Hokeyboy]

Oh no, someone said "retarded"!!! Life is offensive!!

http://rubbercat.net/misc/tears/crying.gif

[Astrofan]

Oh no, someone said "retarded"!!! Life is offensive!!


Oh grow up! BTW I believe he's three. (http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/time_magazine_photographs_mothers_ZbOA2lHZ4ZxeDz28qaAfvM)

[Hokeyboy]

Can you blame him?

[Shannon Nutt]

Not only do I love E.T., I think it's one of the few "perfect" films out there. So I guess count me among the brainwashed. I loved it when I was 12, and still love it today for very different reasons.

[Astrofan]

I am highly jealous of a friend of mine, she has never seen a Spielberg movie. If only I could say the same.

[writer106]

A Christmas Story

[RoboDad]

A Christmas Story

Inconceivable!

(And don't anyone even think of putting The Princess Bride on their 'hate' list. Such heresy is punishable by death.)

[inri222]

Inconceivable!

(And don't anyone even think of putting The Princess Bride on their 'hate' list. Such heresy is punishable by death.)


Pssssst!

Big Trouble In Little China

Do I get the comfy chair?

[KillerCannibal]

My mind does a good job of blocking out most films I don't care for, but I'll echo other posters who have said A Christmas Story (I've seen it over a dozen times; it never does anything for me), and Anchorman (I don't hate it, but I think it's vastly overrated). Same goes for Bridesmaids.

[RoboDad]

Pssssst!

Big Trouble In Little China

Do I get the comfy chair?

You know what ol' Jack Burton says to people who don't like Big Trouble in Little China? He looks 'em right square in the eye and he says "Give me your best shot, pal. I can take it."

[Jules Winfield]

"Retarded"? Really? Who let the 12 year olds onto the board? And to think one of them is a Firesign Theatre fan!

Isn't Nick Danger's use of retarded appropriate? Seriously. He was describing a character that Spielberg would possibly use in one of his movies. It's not like he used it in a derogatory way. He was describing the possible character. You seem like a joyless twit. And if joyless twit offends you, I don't know. Go pull your knickers out of your fanny or something.

[Solid Snake PAC]

yeah...Nick Danger used it well. Didn't see what the other guy's context was.

[BKenn01]

Titanic! The Love story portion is so B.S.........

[Jules Winfield]

yeah...Nick Danger used it well. Didn't see what the other guy's context was.

I don't know. Must be a boob.

[RoboDad]

I don't know. Must be a boob.

I thought the is was the movie talk forum, not the Time magazine cover talk forum.

[TomOpus]

Titanic! The Love story portion is so B.S.........Why is that? It's like a reverse Cinderella. I think the love story was integral in so many women going back to the movie so many times. They totally love stuff like that.

[DieselsDen]

I am not questioning your opinion, because it's your opinion. But I can honestly say you're the first person I have ever come across that hates Ghostbusters.

I just didn't find it that funny. Everyone who saw it told me it was a scream...that it was inventive...that it was hilarious. And I found it to be less than okay. Bill Murray was more smug than witty. I cannot recall a single funny line by Ackroyd or Ramis. It just didn't work for me. I thought GREMLINS was more entertaining, and TEMPLE OF DOOM was my favorite film of that year.

[PatD]

Star Trek (2009)

To this day, I'm appalled that there are people that rank it as good as The Wrath of Khan. Or a good Star Trek movie. Or just a good movie at all. Seriously? For me it was watching a staple of my adolescence and young adulthood lobotomized like in that scene from the original "Planet of the Apes" and I was as angry as Heston's character and wanting to lunge at Dr. Zaius. And the lens flares were the least of my gripes about that piece of shit.

It was a Star Trek movie designed for people who wouldn't otherwise be caught dead watching Star Trek. "Hurr Hurr. Kirk grabs Uhura's boobies! Scotty is in the waterslide! 'Splosions! 'Splosions! 'Splosions!" Throughout the whole depressing slog 3 years ago I was half expecting nuKirk and nuSpock to bust out the light sabers and destroy the not-Death Star (since the film is a complete lift from A New Hope) and at the end some obnoxious Aerosmith track playing at the end credits.

Trek was never Asimov-level SF, but it had it's own (for the most part) dignified identity. But, to make the big bucks you've got to make your product more accessible to people with ADD, I guess.

/END RANT

[PatD]

It's like watching a holocaust movie about a little Jewish boy who's retarded, is hiding from Nazis, is alcoholic, and whose puppy is dying of cancer. Spielberg pushes it too far.


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AD! for the win!

[Hokeyboy]

Trek was never Asimov-level SF, but it had it's own (for the most part) dignified identity. But, to make the big bucks you've got to make your product more accessible to people with ADD, I guess.

/END RANT
Trek 2009 wasn't made for sci-fi/science fiction nerds, but rather a broad audience. Meaning broads. And I'm OK with that :up:

[PatD]

Trek 2009 wasn't made for sci-fi/science fiction nerds, but rather a broad audience. Meaning broads. And I'm OK with that :up:

Broads with ADD, maybe.

[Hokeyboy]

Broads with ADD, maybe.
Are there any other kind?




;)

[wishbone]

Broads with ADD, maybe.http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/3484/rjfletcher.jpg

"Why that's just terrible. I don't know how many times I've told those boys never call chicks broads."

[arminius]

I just didn't find it that funny. Everyone who saw it told me it was a scream...that it was inventive...that it was hilarious. And I found it to be less than okay. Bill Murray was more smug than witty. I cannot recall a single funny line by Ackroyd or Ramis. It just didn't work for me. I thought GREMLINS was more entertaining, and TEMPLE OF DOOM was my favorite film of that year.

Personally, I liked the university. They gave us money and facilities, we didn't have to produce anything! You've never been out of college! You don't know what it's like out there! I've *worked* in the private sector. They expect *results*.

That line always kills me because it is so true.

[brayzie]

As a kid I didn't understand that line but it's pretty funny.

"You can keep the 5 dollars!" also had me laughin.

[Hokeyboy]

"Jeanine... sorry 'bout the bug eyes. I'll be in my office..."

The delivery of that line (and the entire exchange before it) slays me. Every single time. :)

[wishbone]

Dr Ray Stantz:&nbsp;&nbsp;[gets out] Everybody can relax, I found the car. Needs some suspension work and shocks. Brakes, brake pads, lining, steering box, transmission, rear-end.
Dr. Peter Venkman:&nbsp;&nbsp;How much?
Dr Ray Stantz:&nbsp;&nbsp;Only $4800.
[Venkman looks shocked]
Dr Ray Stantz:&nbsp;&nbsp;Also new rings, mufflers, a little wiring...

:)

[RoboDad]

Janine: You're very handy, I can tell. I bet you like to read a lot, too.
Egon: Print is dead.
Janine: Oh, that's very fascinating to me. I read a lot myself. Some people think I'm too intellectual but I think it's a fabulous way to spend your spare time. I also play raquetball. Do you have any hobbies?
Egon: I collect spores, molds, and fungus.

I love this movie. :D

[PhantomStranger]

Gladiator is always the movie that pops into my mind when confronted with this question. It was awful when I saw it on opening night and it hasn't aged any better. I can't believe anyone that loved a movie like Ben-Hur or Spartacus could think Gladiator was anything but modern dreck papered over with a big FX budget.

[TheMovieman]

While I didn't hate it, I wasn't enthralled with A Beautiful Mind.

[inri222]

While I didn't hate it, I wasn't enthralled with A Beautiful Mind.

I fuckin' hated that shit.

[Apple Gooncha]

The Matrix
Spider-Man 1 & 2
Star Wars OT
Avatar

Hate is probably too strong a word for all of those movies, but a lot of movies I truly hate don't seem to get a lot of love from too many people.

[Xiroteus]

No Country For Old Men. Similar to some other comments, I don't necessarily HATE it, but really don't like it very much. I've just resigned to the fact that I'm in the minority because I haven't met anybody yet that doesn't love that movie. Just one of those things I keep my mouth shut about because I'd rather not be the 1% that argues with the 99%.

Hated that pile of garbage!

[PatD]

Another vote for "No Country for Old Men". OVERRATED with a capital "O". It was basically a non-SF version of "The Terminator"








...which poses the question: will Harlan Ellison go after the Coen Bros down the road?

[jmu878]

Blade Runner bored me to tears. I also despise Slumdog Millionaire, which I consider trite and pretentious shit.

[Ash Ketchum]

I liked STAR TREK: THE MOTION PICTURE.

I disliked STAR TREK II: THE WRATH OF KHAN.

[arminius]

Saving Ryan's Privates - started out good and devolved into smegma
Avatard - it came across like a film project from a class to utilize every imaginable cliche possible
The Dark Knight - I actually don't hate it as I have never seen it but what the hell

[inri222]

I also despise Slumdog Millionaire, which I consider trite and pretentious shit.

:thumbsup:

People I know think it's really deep.

[PopcornBandit]

Avatar. Visually stunning but much too cliche.

[brayzie]

Yeah, Blade Runner was pretty boring. I heard so much great stuff about it, and I assumed that it would have had a little more action, I guess from "Runner" being in there.

Ridley Scott said that they were trying to portray the future in a casual way, because everything looks worn in, but when you see the cars fly up for the first time, the music seems to be saying, "look, what a miracle of technology this is. How beautiful."

I didn't like Harrison Ford's character forcing himself on the replicant either.

Unforgiven I can't understand how it got an Academy Award. It was like a typical western, except maybe more violent. In the end, the guy's like a superhero who still ends up killing all the bad guys. I've read that it decontructed the genre, but I didn't see that in the film.

[inri222]

Unforgiven.....I've read that it decontructed the genre, but I didn't see that in the film.

Gene Hackman (The Sheriff) is the bad guy. Clint Eatwood (The murderer of women & children) is the good guy.

[brayzie]

I guess I have to see it again, because I didn't remember that Eastwood's character did those things.

So Eastwood was a reformed bandit, who took this job for $$$, which was about avenging a disfigured prostitute? It seemed pretty typical of Hollywood films at the time. The action hero who can kill everyone, and walk away into the sunset.

I thought the one thing that was interesting was how in the story, you could kind of see things weren't completely black and white, like how the friends of the woman exaggerated her disfigurement, and how the sheriff obviously didn't want paid murderers in town, but Hackman might as well been Dr. Doom.

[inri222]

I guess I have to see it again, because I didn't remember that Eastwood's character did those things.

So Eastwood was a reformed bandit, who took this job for $$$, which was about avenging a disfigured prostitute?

Yes

[Hokeyboy]

I also despise Slumdog Millionaire, which I consider trite and pretentious shit.
:thumbsup:

People I know think it's really deep.

I heart you guys :)

I loathe that grotesque and repulsively insulting representation of Indian culture.

It was PC Hollywood's attempt at patting itself on the back for "making movies about strange brown people". Without any attempt at substantial, meaningful content. Horrible.

[Nick Danger]

I didn't think Slumdog Millionaire was bad. It's by no means a great movie. But we enjoyed it.

It wasn't as insulting as Avatar, where the white man learns an entire (blue standing in for brown) culture in three months, and then shows the ignorant savages how to tame a dragon, woo the princess, and win the big war.

[Mabuse]

UnforgivenI've read that it decontructed the genre, but I didn't see that in the film.It takes the time to say that most of the exploits by the "heroes of the old west" was bullshit made up by penny novel writers. It explains that most old west shootings were done by angry drunks who shot at their victims from less than 5 feet away and often shot their victims in the back or shot unarmed men. It shows that most "noble sherrifs who clean up the town" were really a bunch of strong-arm ball busters whose idea of "cleaning up" was brutalizing or killing everyone that even looked like they were up to trouble.

Now the truth is that there were many earilier westerns that said these things, but by 1992 no one had said it for a while.

[superdeluxe]

Many people love super troopers. I hated it.

But I did enjoy Beer Fest heh.

[cornflakeguy]

The Hangover
Napolean Dynamite

I do NOT understand the appeal of these two movies. I didn't laugh ONE time in the Hangover.

[Spottedfeather]

Gladiator is always the movie that pops into my mind when confronted with this question. It was awful when I saw it on opening night and it hasn't aged any better. I can't believe anyone that loved a movie like Ben-Hur or Spartacus could think Gladiator was anything but modern dreck papered over with a big FX budget.

I don't know that that FX budget was so massive. What effects did they have ? There was a mostly cgi colosseum and they removed space so that the tigets would appear to be closer to the actors. Other than that, what was there ?

[Spottedfeather]

The Hangover
Napolean Dynamite

I do NOT understand the appeal of these two movies. I didn't laugh ONE time in the Hangover.

Exactly. As I think I've said before, I tried to watch Napoleon Dynamite but could barely get through about 25 minutes of it. I eventually was able to, barely, finish the movie. Didn't laugh a single time. It's such a stupid movie. And the Hangover ? Another laughless movies that grabbed a bit from a much better movie over here, and another bit of a much better movie over here and smushed them together in hopes that it would make a goo movie, which if failed miserably to do. These two movies are just massive cases of being movies that people talk about over and over an over, to the point where people start to think they're actually good, even when they're not. I am sure that there are a lot of people that genuinely like these movies. That's fine. You can like what you like. But I'd bet that most of the people that say they like these movies do so because it seems like everybody in the world loves these movies and people who don't are made fun of or looked down on because they don't like them.

I'd say that I appreciate the effort it took to make these movies, but that would be a lie. There was no effort. They just kept taking bits and pieces of other movies that people actually like in hopes that the likeability factor would rub off. But when you take bits and pieces of good movies, hoping to make a good movie yourself, you can't do any better than those other movies. And 99 percent of the time, you do the exact opposite and fail to make any sort of watchable movie...unless people only watch it to make fun of it and enjoy the cheesy camp factor.

As I said. If you like a movie that's extremely popular for no good reason, then that's perfectly fine. You can like whatever you want to like. But please don't like it just because a lot of other people do. Like it because you actually like the movie.

[DaveyJoe]

I am sure that there are a lot of people that genuinely like these movies. That's fine. You can like what you like. But I'd bet that most of the people that say they like these movies do so because it seems like everybody in the world loves these movies and people who don't are made fun of or looked down on because they don't like them.

That's a terribly sad perspective, and very untrue. Be a film snob if you want, but it's ridiculous to assume that the masses are waiting for a perceived consensus before deciding whether or not to like a movie.

[raven56706]

The Artist.... finally saw it after my comments of backlash..... and i still think its overrated...

[RichC2]

As I said. If you like a movie that's extremely popular for no good reason, then that's perfectly fine. You can like whatever you want to like. But please don't like it just because a lot of other people do. Like it because you actually like the movie.

I always figured that's why The Matrix and Star Wars franchises are popular, group mentality :shrug:

[GuessWho]

Actually, my answer to the thread's question is The Matrix.

[Terrell]

Avatar. Most overrated piece of crap I've ever seen.

That describes quite a few of Cameron's films. It also applies to Titanic. It also applies to True Lies and Aliens, albeit to a lesser degree. I consider Aliens to be a good film, but overrated. It doesn't touch Scott's original. True Lies is a fun couple of hours, but people talk about that damn film like it's the second coming. It's merely decent at best.

As for Avatar, I couldn't agree more. I watched that film on Uverse and I'm thinking, this is the film everyone is raving over? This is the film that was nominated for Best Picture? This is the film that made 2 billion? The only reason it sniffed the Oscars Best Picture and Director categories was because it made 2 billion dollars.

I'd also have to concur with The Hangover. My uncle said it was one of the funniest movies he's seen, and my brother and I watched it and about halfway through it, we looked at each other in stunned silence.

[DGibFen]

Pulp Fiction. Actually, on a whole, I really don't care for Quentin Tarantino's work. I find most of his storytelling is too wrapped up in trying to be clever and hip.

The closet I've ever come to enjoying his work was the first 20-30 minutes of Inglorious Bastards, and I don't know if I can credit Tarantino for writing/directing that scene, or Christoph Waltz for his masterful job of bringing that scene to a frightening realization.

[Spottedfeather]

That's a terribly sad perspective, and very untrue. Be a film snob if you want, but it's ridiculous to assume that the masses are waiting for a perceived consensus before deciding whether or not to like a movie.

I'm as far from a film snob as you can get. I like all types of movies. Even bad ones. Everything I said is correct. There are a lot of movies that a lot of people like only because everyone is talking about the movie and they don't want to be left out or thought of as uncool. Or are you saying that that never happens ?

For every crappy movie that people like just because they don't want people to make fun of them or look down on them, there are people that actually like the movie. I never said that EVERYONE only likes certain movies just because everyone else seems to. I said that MOST people only like certain movies because they want to be part of the crowd.

[Spottedfeather]

I always figured that's why The Matrix and Star Wars franchises are popular, group mentality :shrug:

That's one case where the movies are popular because they're great movies, whereas Napoleon Dynamite and Hangover are only popular because people keep talking them to death. And if something is repeated enough times, there will be people that start to believe the hype, undeserved though it may be. If Napoleon Dynamite and Hangover stood on just the people that genuinely like the movies, they wouldn't be nearly as popular as they are now.

[RoboDad]

I'm as far from a film snob as you can get. I like all types of movies. Even bad ones. Everything I said is correct. There are a lot of movies that a lot of people like only because everyone is talking about the movie and they don't want to be left out or thought of as uncool. Or are you saying that that never happens ?

For every crappy movie that people like just because they don't want people to make fun of them or look down on them, there are people that actually like the movie. I never said that EVERYONE only likes certain movies just because everyone else seems to. I said that MOST people only like certain movies because they want to be part of the crowd.

I think that is the part that DaveyJoe referred to as a sad perspective. Personally, I have never met a single person who only likes a particular film due to any kind of groupthink or peer pressure. There is no doubt that such things can influence people to go see a film (hence the value of "word of mouth"), but using that as the sole basis for liking the film? Not so much.

In the case of Napolean Dynamite, I can attest that the first time I saw it was because of strong positive recommendations from several friends. But the second time I saw it, it was because I found it to be a very funny, off-beat film.

[Spottedfeather]

I, too, got Napoleon Dynamite because everyone kept saying how it was this cool, really funny, smart movie that I would love. Ugh. As I've said multiple times, I could barely make it through 25 or so minutes. I just had to shut it off. I'm not saying that it's a horrible movie. I'm just saying that it's just not funny. It was like an amateur high school play. Everyone in the movie was so flat and unaffected. It felt like they were all on some sort of cold medication or something. The jokes, if you can call them that, were hardly original and poorly executed, at that. I kept waiting for the movie to get better, but it just never did. I won't call it a bad movie, because it's not. I've had to sit through movies like Titanic and Watchmen, after all. But it was just boring. If you like it, that's great. We're all entitled to like what we want to like. I just don't understand how someone could call Napoleon Dynamite funny. The characters were extremely generic with no real development to speak of. The story was sub par and lacked even the slightest hint of originality. It felt like each character in the movie wasn't in the same movie as any of the other characters. The blonde girl that Napoleon liked (I hate this movie so much, I don't care to look up the girl's name) seemed like a character from Mean Girls.

The brown haired girl that was Napoleon and Pedro's friend felt like someone out of Revenge Of The Nerds. The nerdy Kip....good lord. I don't even know what to say about him. I can't imagine a movie horrible enough that that character would fit into. I really wish you could un-see things.

[Profane]

It would be safe to say I qualify as a lurker, but this thread is interesting so I figured that I would weigh in. Here's a few films that I think are overrated, and while most have been mentioned, I believe a few haven't.

The Big Lebowski (watched it 3 times, don't understand the appeal/humor)
Fargo
The Hangover (average comedy at best, wildly overrated)
The Royal Tenenbaums (not a big Wes Anderson fan)
Pan's Labyrinth (enjoyed Del Toro's "The Orphanage" & "The Devil's Backbone" more than this)
The Graduate
Heat
Nightmare Before Christmas
The Lost Boys
Legend
Chicago (worst BP winner of the last 20 years, in my opinion)
Lord of the Rings: FOTR

I can't honestly say that I really "hate" any of these films, Chicago would really be sole exception. I just think the others are very overrated and I don't understand the broad appeal. I saw LOTR: FOTR in theaters and thought that it was well made, but I was bored and wasn't compelled to see the sequels. A lot of friends and co-workers seem perplexed that I could walk away from the trilogy after just one film.

Jerry Maguire would have topped my list just a few weeks ago. I couldn't stand that film when I initially saw it as a teenager. I re-watched it recently and found that it was much better than I remembered. I thought the script was solid, I could tolerate Renee Zellweger this time around, and the chemistry between Cruise & Gooding Jr. was excellent. Cuba really gave a great performance, one that I don't think I could appreciate at the time I saw it.

[jfoobar]

Heat


I just read this whole thread start to finish in one sitting and there have been a few "what the...?!?!?" moments here and there, but this quoted text is the first time I have wanted to punch someone in the cock. :)

Well, except Jules, but I always want to punch him in the cock.

Heat has one very glaring weakness IMHO, but is otherwise one of the most perfect films I think I have ever seen.

[DaveyJoe]

I'm as far from a film snob as you can get. I like all types of movies. Even bad ones. Everything I said is correct. There are a lot of movies that a lot of people like only because everyone is talking about the movie and they don't want to be left out or thought of as uncool. Or are you saying that that never happens ?

For every crappy movie that people like just because they don't want people to make fun of them or look down on them, there are people that actually like the movie. I never said that EVERYONE only likes certain movies just because everyone else seems to. I said that MOST people only like certain movies because they want to be part of the crowd.

I said that you can be a film snob, there's nothing wrong with that. I went through an elitist phase when I started getting into foreign films as a teenager, but then I remembered that I still like a lot of hokey shit from the 80s. Either way it's okay to prefer one type of film over another, and I can understand when somebody looks down their noses at the crowds who go apeshit over Transformers and Battleship, but to think that the masses are choosing to like a film based on some kind of general consensus is ridiculous.

If you ask me, the type of people who actually like that mind-numbing shit don't care what anybody else thinks. These are the type of people who don't want to read subtitles for films and just want to shut their brains off for 90 minutes of escapism. The last thing they're thinking about is whether or not it's socially acceptable that they enjoy the film. You just need to accept the fact that not everybody will share your opinion. And sometimes, really awful films will be embraced by the masses: Avatar and Twilight.

[jfoobar]

On the other hand, there are those of us who embrace, when done well, both films with subtitles and mind-numbing escapism and everything in between. But there is good mind-numbing escapism and not so good and/or overrated mind-numbing escapism. When filmmakers seemingly assume that their audience for an otherwise adult-oriented film has the mentality of a child or won't notice gaping plot holes or characters that do something or say something that is simply inexplicable they are...well, they are usually right. But someone who notices these shortcomings and criticizes the film because of them isn't necessarily a film snob or an elitist.

Or maybe they are. Who knows?


Edited to tidy up phrasing.

[DaveyJoe]

On the other hand, there are those of us who embrace, when done well, both films with subtitles and mind-numbing escapism and everything in between. But there is good mind-numbing escapism and not so good and/or overrated mind-numbing escapism. When filmmakers seemingly assume that their audience for an otherwise adult-oriented film has the mentality of a child or won't notice gaping plot holes or characters that are simply inexplicable they are...well, they are usually right. But someone who notices these shortcomings and criticizes the film because of it isn't necessarily a film snob or an elitist.

Or maybe they are. Who knows?

I agree, and I'm one of those people who has the ability to appreciate all types of cinema when they're done well. I'm afraid my post had a few sweeping generalizations, because I was mostly trying to focus on the concept of sheep mentality.

[Jaymole]

On the other hand, there are those of us who embrace, when done well, both films with subtitles and mind-numbing escapism and everything in between. But there is good mind-numbing escapism and not so good and/or overrated mind-numbing escapism. When filmmakers seemingly assume that their audience for an otherwise adult-oriented film has the mentality of a child or won't notice gaping plot holes or characters that do something or say something that is simply inexplicable they are...well, they are usually right. But someone who notices these shortcomings and criticizes the film because of them isn't necessarily a film snob or an elitist.

Or maybe they are. Who knows?


Edited to tidy up phrasing.

Good post and I fall readily into this camp.