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DJariya
04-29-12, 06:53 AM
<img src="http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/5605/madmenn.jpg" alt="Image Hosted by ImageShack.us"/><br/>By <a target="_new" href="http://profile.imageshack.us/user/djariya">djariya</a> at 2012-03-22

Synopsis:

Don, Roger and Pete team up to rustle up some new clients; Sally lends a hand to a relative.

Episode 7 of 13

Promo that doesn't make any sense:

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Jack Straw
04-29-12, 02:41 PM
Really looking forward to it, particularly any follow-up from Roger about his "tripping".

PopcornTreeCt
04-29-12, 03:20 PM
I wish all promos for shows were like Mad Men's previews.

misterchimpy
04-29-12, 04:08 PM
For those who are wondering about the meaning of the title


It's apparently the title of a 1936 Shirley Temple song that was in the movie "Captain January" :lol:

http://blog.zap2it.com/frominsidethebox/2012/04/mad-men-season-5-episode-507-sneak-peek-peggy-at-the-codfish-ball.html

PopcornTreeCt
04-29-12, 10:49 PM
"Don, some day your daughter will spread her legs and fly away"

misterchimpy
04-29-12, 11:02 PM
Well, I'm pretty sure that Shirley Temple never did THAT in her films!

:lol:

bluetoast
04-29-12, 11:06 PM
Wow, what a great episode. Everything at the ball, at the client dinner, Megan telling Don about the idea, awesome.

Gdrlv
04-29-12, 11:20 PM
This season has been fantastic so far.

The blow job scene actually shocked me, even if it really didn't show anything.

aktick
04-29-12, 11:24 PM
God Roger is awesome. :lol:

MikahC
04-29-12, 11:30 PM
The show is just so incredibly well crafted. They payoff is the scene at the end where not a single person at Don's table (including Don) is happy. But to get there, every action and situation was completely in character. Everyone unhappy? Just what you'd expect from an episode where the devil makes an appearance.

There comes a point where something is so good I begin to ask myself why other things can't be as good. I'm sure the creative forced behind Mad Men are quite talented, but I also believe there are many other talented people out there in the industry. Why don't we see more of them? Maybe they're off compromising on more profitable shows. Whatever the case, you just have to shrug and be thankful of what you get.

anomynous
04-30-12, 12:05 AM
Episode 7 and we've only seen Betty once.



Score.

bluetoast
04-30-12, 12:56 AM
We've got someone from Beverly Hills Cop on Breaking Bad, someone from RoboCop on Mad Men. Two of my favorite movies connected to two of my favorite shows...I love it. Both of them henchmen in their film roles too. Nice.

Mr. Flix
04-30-12, 07:54 AM
Forgive me if this is a completely dense question, but why did Meagan look so unhappy after talking to Peggy? Obviously Meagan expected Peggy to be jealous, but Peggy wasn't. Was she upset by Peggy saying that this was as good as the job gets?

joliom
04-30-12, 08:05 AM
That's how I took it. That point was driven home at the end of the episode when her father tells her that she is surrendering her dreams by working in advertising and staying with Don.

Geofferson
04-30-12, 08:15 AM
Fantastic episode. Everything at the ball was great and the scenes with Megan's parents were excellent.

Roger (when entering Don's office): "Oh, you two are actually working." :lol:

Red Dog
04-30-12, 09:25 AM
"Dirty!" rotfl

Roger is the da man. :thumbsup:



They payoff is the scene at the end where not a single person at Don's table (including Don) is happy.

Great scene.


Was she upset by Peggy saying that this was as good as the job gets?

That's how I took it. That point was driven home at the end of the episode when her father tells her that she is surrendering her dreams by working in advertising and staying with Don.

Yep. Didn't she come to NY to be a model or actress?


And I love how Pete described his 'job' to her marxist father.

dex14
04-30-12, 09:43 AM
Lady Guinevere was very un lady like.

Decker
04-30-12, 09:48 AM
"He's from Dow Corning. They make lovely cookware, glasses, napalm".

aktick
04-30-12, 11:48 AM
^ Loved that one. :lol:

Jack Straw
04-30-12, 03:18 PM
"Don, some day your daughter will spread her legs and fly away" That FIL was a real ASS! I'm glad his wife (who was not bad at all) gave Roger that hummer.

Jack Straw
04-30-12, 05:20 PM
Did anyone else LOL when the evil step-mother tripped and fell?

uteotw
04-30-12, 05:26 PM
Did anyone else LOL when the evil step-mother tripped and fell?

Totally. "On a toy."

Geofferson
04-30-12, 05:31 PM
Totally. "On a toy."
That was great. It immediately reminded me of the scene in Breaking Bad
Where Ted Beneke tripped on a carpet and was killed.

Raul3
04-30-12, 06:11 PM
She's not evil.

focker
04-30-12, 07:26 PM
She's not evil.

Anyone who can be so bitchy as to make Betty look sympathetic must be evil.

Coral
04-30-12, 08:42 PM
Great episode.

Lane's been shut out 2 episodes in a row.

Oh Sally, you're too young to be wearing makeup and Go Go boots. These things are for adults, not children. Now go run off and watch Roger get a blow-job from your step-grandmama. :lol:

Peggy: "I don't know what the Canadian equivalent of baseball is, but this is a home-run"
Megan: "We have baseball" :lol:
(less than 3 years later Montreal establishes a MLB franchise... in Megan's home province no less).

Nausicaa
04-30-12, 08:46 PM
Man, these last three episodes... this show has been firing on all cylinders.

I was just thinking the other day about Peggy's mom and her son (!). Glad they brought her back. I think Peggy has very conflicted feelings about moving in with Abe, and after the whole thing with Pete I bet her mother's comment cut deep. Talk about baggage.

I'm loving Roger with the post trip Euphoria.

"Someone once told me I could never see how other people think, he was right!"

Enjoyed Don and Megan as well. I thought it was cool how they made a good team, but interesting how that was undermined by her father's implication and perhaps her own feelings of settling too soon.

Really a great episode though. Everything about it. Structurally it was wonderfully done how all the characters wind up at the table at the end. Outstanding editing.

conscience
04-30-12, 09:25 PM
Great episode.

Lane's been shut out 2 episodes in a row.


:( But hopefully this means he will not miss out in the latter half of the season. Don't most of the supporting players have to sit out three episodes?

Great episode, though. And isn't this the first of the season not written or co-written by Weiner?

Loved that scene with them at the tables at the end.

Tommy Ceez
04-30-12, 09:41 PM
Odd that Peggy would think to tell her mom she was living in sin when she thought mentioning that her old roommate was Swedish was going to be a problem.

misterchimpy
04-30-12, 09:50 PM
I thought this was one of the best non-Roger lines of the entire series:

"You know what your aunt used to say? 'You're lonely, get a cat. They live 13 years, then you get another one and another one after that. Then you're done."

:lol:

And as usual, Roger had some awesome lines:

Roger: "Who knows why people in history did good things. For all we know Jesus was trying to get the loaves and fishes account."

Roger: "It's very interesting but a lot of times you think people are looking at you, but they're not their mind's elsewhere."
Don: "Lots of people that haven't taken LSD already know that, Roger." :lol:

Nausicaa
04-30-12, 11:07 PM
Roger: "It's very interesting but a lot of times you think people are looking at you, but they're not their mind's elsewhere."
Don: "Lots of people that haven't taken LSD already know that, Roger." :lol:


That one was great! Hamm's delivery was perfect.

slop101
05-01-12, 01:20 AM
Forgive me if this is a completely dense question, but why did Meagan look so unhappy after talking to Peggy? Obviously Meagan expected Peggy to be jealous, but Peggy wasn't. Was she upset by Peggy saying that this was as good as the job gets?
That's how I took it. That point was driven home at the end of the episode when her father tells her that she is surrendering her dreams by working in advertising and staying with Don.
Yep. Didn't she come to NY to be a model or actress?As her dad was telling her, she hadn't followed her dreams and had sort of "sold out". And while she was happy with her "win" at work, it really didn't mean that much to her, especially when it supposed to be "as good as it gets". That's fine for Peggy, but not good enough for Megan, she needs something else/more.

I also want to say that it's pretty great to be able to see Jon Hamm on TV, in just a few days apart, in tuxedo and in black-face.

Supermallet
05-01-12, 03:15 AM
"How is Manhattan?"
"Dirty."

Perfect closing line.

The shot at the table was brilliant, and with the music reminded me of The Godfather. It felt like the flipside of the Heinz ad. Instead of three generations of happiness, it was three generations of unhappiness.

Great to see Juliette Binoche as Megan's mom. She's still a fox. I'd choose her over Jessica Pare any day.

TGM
05-01-12, 05:43 AM
anyone missing Betty? if so, say "aye"............................................................... crickets.

conscience
05-01-12, 06:30 AM
Great to see Juliette Binoche as Megan's mom. She's still a fox. I'd choose her over Jessica Pare any day.

It was Julia Ormond and while Binoche is better looking (and about a year older), for 47 Ormond does look great and hasn't resorted to plastic surgery.

Goat3001
05-01-12, 08:16 AM
I also want to say that it's pretty great to be able to see Jon Hamm on TV, in just a few days apart, in tuxedo and in black-face.

Banjo!

I thought this episode was great too. I wonder if they're setting up Megan to leave Don to pursue her dreams. It would really send Don into a downward spiral.

Supermallet
05-01-12, 11:10 AM
It was Julia Ormond and while Binoche is better looking (and about a year older), for 47 Ormond does look great and hasn't resorted to plastic surgery.

I'm convinced that Juliette Binoche and Julia Ormond are the same person.

clckworang
05-01-12, 12:16 PM
Another great episode. I have to admit that I was expecting more of a letdown after last week's, but the show has really been excellent. I have to say that this is the first season where I have been following it live. Every other season has been through Blu-ray. It really is a different experience watching it this way. I think I prefer it chapter by chapter rather than big binges. It seems like this show is better when it has time to breathe a little bit. It's like you have more of an opportunity to appreciate how great it is.

"Don, some day your daughter will spread her legs and fly away"

:lol: That was probably the line of the night for me.

It was Julia Ormond and while Binoche is better looking (and about a year older), for 47 Ormond does look great and hasn't resorted to plastic surgery.

Thank you! I couldn't place her for the life of me. I always liked Ormond. At one time, she seemed poised to take on a lot of great roles, but it just never seemed to happen for her. She was great here.

Quatermass
05-01-12, 02:27 PM
I'm convinced that Juliette Binoche and Julia Ormond are the same person.

Me too. I thought that was Binoche and imdb'ed to find out it was Ormond (who's actually British).

I liked Pete Campbell's "...And that's what I do for a living" bit.

Also, I don't remember what the deal was with the full page anti smoking ad. Can someone refresh my feeble memory?

Decker
05-01-12, 02:50 PM
Also, I don't remember what the deal was with the full page anti smoking ad. Can someone refresh my feeble memory?

After Lucky Strike dropped SCDP as their firm (Phillip Morris wanted to consolidate all their brands under one agency), Draper, unilaterally and without telling anyone, took out a full page ad in the NY Times entitled "Why I'm Quitting Tobacco" and blasted the tobacco industry (which were the accounts that made him a success. It seemed to be career suicide. Things have been looking up lately, but apparently it's not close to being forgotten.

http://static5.businessinsider.com/image/4f610725eab8ead170000022/mad-men.png

Patman
05-01-12, 04:56 PM
I call it Don's "Jerry Maguire" moment. You'll never make everyone happy all the time.

mwbmis
05-01-12, 06:50 PM
We never did get an answer this year on when Cooper came back after that stunt Don pulled.

OldBoy
05-01-12, 07:27 PM
Great so show this is!

slop101
05-01-12, 09:44 PM
You know, if this season keeps it up (and seasons 6 & 7 don't flounder), I'm gonna have to put Mad Men as the best TV show of all time, just ahead of The Wire.

joliom
05-01-12, 10:32 PM
It's a refreshing change to post about how a show has never been so good, as opposed to being the worst its ever been.

Three Day Delay
05-02-12, 01:26 AM
I replayed the baked beans pitch three times. It was so perfectly orchestrated. I really like Meghan and hope that she and Don can maintain a fairly righted ship. I would like the storyline to end with them still together.

I didn't care for the previous episode, but this one and the one prior were both simply brilliant.

The look that Don gave when Ken tried to stop the pitch was :lol:

Geofferson
05-02-12, 09:08 AM
I replayed the baked beans pitch three times. It was so perfectly orchestrated.
I watched this episode a second time this week (I've re-watched nearly all of this season's episodes, which doesn't happen for many shows). Anyway, completely agree on the beans pitch scene -- well staged all around. As was the sequence at the ball in the final act -- near perfection.

uteotw
05-02-12, 12:37 PM
The look that Don gave when Ken tried to stop the pitch was :lol:

Followed by Ken's sharp comment to his wife when she tried to talk about coffee--perfect.

macnorton
05-02-12, 02:15 PM
"How is Manhattan?"
"Dirty."

Perfect closing line.

The shot at the table was brilliant, and with the music reminded me of The Godfather. It felt like the flipside of the Heinz ad. Instead of three generations of happiness, it was three generations of unhappiness.

Great to see Juliette Binoche as Megan's mom. She's still a fox. I'd choose her over Jessica Pare any day.

I agree, great line. I also think this set up a future plot line as well.

And that table shot was one of my favorite of the series (outside of the finale of S1). Add in David Carbonara's excellent score, that is a winning combination.

Jack Straw
05-02-12, 03:08 PM
We never did get an answer this year on when Cooper came back after that stunt Don pulled. Yeah, good observation and I agree that some sort of mention or reference to explain his return would have been nice. I would have thought that a brief comment from Roger to Cooper could have easily alluded to or explained what happened without taking up that much precious programming time.

Nefarious
05-04-12, 11:54 PM
You know, if this season keeps it up (and seasons 6 & 7 don't flounder), I'm gonna have to put Mad Men as the best TV show of all time, just ahead of The Wire.

I agree.

bluetoast
05-05-12, 01:18 AM
Yeah I want to know about Cooper, and secondly why he doesn't have an office at the new building (as of last season). There needs to be more shoe removal!

Coral
05-05-12, 10:08 AM
I suspect they'll kill off Cooper at some point. His screen time is extremely limited now - and the show hasn't killed off a regular in the office yet (no, I'm not counting the old secretary).

bluetoast
05-05-12, 10:34 AM
Yeah, perhaps him or Roger by the end of the series.

Tommy Ceez
05-05-12, 11:05 AM
What stunt? Can anyone refresh my memory? I don't recall Burt leaving

bluetoast
05-05-12, 11:51 AM
Burt left SCDP after Don's letter.

anomynous
05-05-12, 02:20 PM
I don't remember him leaving either, especially since he was in this season in the office acting like he runs it.

bluetoast
05-05-12, 04:53 PM
Well he left right before the season finale of last season, had said goodbye to some people, with his stuff in hand. Wasn't in the final episode of that season. And now he's back.

Jack Straw
05-05-12, 10:15 PM
Yep...he suddenly and seemingly for good called it a day and bailed out on the firm after Don's unilateral move to have his anti-tobacco letter published near the end of S4.

Giles
05-05-12, 10:36 PM
This season has been fantastic so far.

The blow job scene actually shocked me, even if it really didn't show anything.

but even what was briefly scene and implied, falls into what's TV-14 acceptable is pretty amazing... and yes shocking.

DJariya
05-06-12, 04:36 AM
Been a little busy this week, but I finally caught it tonight.

:lol: at Roger getting the BJ from Megan's Mom.

:lol: at Sally's reaction and her comment on the phone "Dirty"


:thumbsup: Don't really have much else to add, but another consistently great episode.

Draven
05-07-12, 12:28 AM
Finally got to this too and it did not disappoint.

Lots of great moments already mentioned, but I would totally watch a spin-off about Roger and Sally Draper having adventures in the big city.