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glassdragon
04-27-12, 05:37 PM
Didn't see a thread on this so I thought I would make one, if there is one (I searched) then please merge it

This has been a rumor for awhile. A Super Smash Brothers type of game with sony characters. Well, it was offically announced today with a trailer. While I think the name needs work, it looks decent

And yes, it does look a lot like SSBM, but who cares? IMO the characters in this are going to be a lot better than Nintendo's characters and much more adult friendly. People are already complaining and up in arms saying it's EXACTLY like SSBM. If we are to say this is the exact same game then we must also say that Vigilante 8 is the EXACT same game as Twisted Metal, which it isn't.

Here's the trailer with gameplay

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Honestly the formula works and I'm glad I will be able to play a game and see what the big deal is with SSBM without having to buy one of Nintendo's systems, which I'll never do.

So who thinks that Kevin Butler should be the last boss? :P

Also I didn't mean to put PSN in the title, meant PS3 as I don't know if it's going to be a disc or psn dlc yet.

Decker
04-27-12, 06:42 PM
Might be fun. I have a great deal of fondness for many of the Playstation exclusive characters (much more so than Nintendo for the same reason as you -- not much of a Nintendo console owner). This game looks simplistic and I don't know if I might get bored pretty quickly, but since it's a PSN title, I figure it should probably be $15-$20 and at that price, I'd certainly give it a try if the reviews aren't awful.

discostu1337
04-27-12, 07:38 PM
but since it's a PSN title, I figure it should probably be $15-$20 and at that price, I'd certainly give it a try if the reviews aren't awful.

It's not a PSN title, it's a normal retail game.

Matthew Chmiel
04-27-12, 07:47 PM
I'll wait for the next Super Smash Brothers title since Nintendo knows how to do this type of game right. :thumbsup:

glassdragon
04-27-12, 09:46 PM
I'll wait for the next Super Smash Brothers title since Nintendo knows how to do this type of game right. :thumbsup:

Provided they make another, they just posted their first loss in 30 years and it's not small. Close to 500 million dollars.

Also, not really sure you can say that sony isn't doing it right when you haven't even played it yet. I wouldn't presume that SSBB is bad since I haven't played it. That's kind of presumptuous.

jdpatri
04-27-12, 10:38 PM
I'll just wait for the Battle Royale with Cheese expansion pack.

glassdragon
04-27-12, 10:41 PM
I'm happy as long as the battle royale comes in a limited edition blu-ray book and not a blue vortex case.

PopcornTreeCt
04-27-12, 11:55 PM
Very meh. I can't even think of any Sony exclusive characters, first one that comes to mind is Snake from Metal Gear Solid but he's no longer exclusive. Dante from Devil May Cry? Nope, not him either.

glassdragon
04-28-12, 12:45 AM
Very meh. I can't even think of any Sony exclusive characters, first one that comes to mind is Snake from Metal Gear Solid but he's no longer exclusive. Dante from Devil May Cry? Nope, not him either.

You can't think of Kratos or Nathan Drake? A couple of the best games out there on any system, there are others, but these 2 always stand out to me.

Wazootyman
04-28-12, 04:11 AM
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Michael should be happy. That vid does feature some of the PS3 exclusive like Kratos, Drake, Sackboy, guys from Resistance and Killzone, but also a lot that are multi-platform.

The game video didn't really do much for me. I'm not the biggest SSB fan out there, so basically same game different graphics is going to compel me

glassdragon
04-28-12, 08:42 AM
I don't think that one has anything to do with this game as they've been showing that on the tester episodes the entire last season, still very cool commercial though.

Gizmo
04-28-12, 11:22 AM
Sony stole a decade old idea from Nintendo? Wow, I'm shocked!

They literally stole ever aspect from Smash Brothers. That's just...pathetic. Maybe they make their own Kart Racer too! Oh...wait...

Solid Snake
04-28-12, 12:57 PM
While I'm not against the game I'm not really surprised by anything I've seen. If it gets word of mouth running in the positive..I'll play it. Otherwise...nothing new to get me excited. Nintendo has already done it and it's been very good w/ it. If it's that..but w/ Sony...it's still not enough. It's got to be that and then some too otherwise..it's just generic.

PopcornTreeCt
04-28-12, 01:12 PM
You can't think of Kratos or Nathan Drake? A couple of the best games out there on any system, there are others, but these 2 always stand out to me.

Those characters are both late-Sony characters. Neither was on PS1. Kratos came on at least 5 years after PS2 came out and Nathan Drake is a PS3 guy. While Nintendo's characters have spanned, not just decades, but generations. There's a huge difference. Even Master Chief is older than Kratos.

So, yeah I couldn't think of any, Ratchet and Clank maybe?

Solid Snake
04-28-12, 02:12 PM
Ratchet and Clank, Sly Cooper, Jak and Daxter, A Car from Gran Turismo, etc.

glassdragon
04-28-12, 04:18 PM
I almost feel like I'm new to the forum when I for some reason didn't expect people to pile on the sony hate. Some of the people doing this are the very same people that defend Call of Duty every time even though it's pretty much the exact same game each time, even uses the same models from game to game at times.

and Popcorn you are talking about characters that were out 10+ years BEFORE the ps1 even came out. They haven't had nearly as much time to come up with as many iconic characters, nor are most of the ps1 characters etched in our memories from when we were kids. I remember the first time I played Super mario brothers, but I don't remember the first game I played on ps1. At some point it has to go past nostalgia which is what people feel for the older nintendo characters such as Mario and Link. Hell, half the Mario and Zelda games they sell are probably to people who couldn't care less about the story and buy it just because it's Mario or Zelda.

I'm not saying they're bad games at all. What I'm saying is that the characters you knew when you were a kid mean more to you than the newer ones. Unless you are in your 20's then your first system was probably an NES or a Master System.

I personally play games because they're fun, not because of some ingrained nostalgia for older characters. And if this game is fun then who cares if it's like SSB? The bottom line is whether it's a good game or not, not where it came from.

Gizmo
04-28-12, 04:22 PM
I almost feel like I'm new to the forum when I for some reason didn't expect people to pile on the sony hate. Some of the people doing this are the very same people that defend Call of Duty every time even though it's pretty much the exact same game each time, even uses the same models from game to game at times.

and Popcorn you are talking about characters that were out 10+ years BEFORE the ps1 even came out. They haven't had nearly as much time to come up with as many iconic characters, nor are most of the ps1 characters etched in our memories from when we were kids. I remember the first time I played Super mario brothers, but I don't remember the first game I played on ps1. At some point it has to go past nostalgia which is what people feel for the older nintendo characters such as Mario and Link. Hell, half the Mario and Zelda games they sell are probably to people who couldn't care less about the story and buy it just because it's Mario or Zelda.

I'm not saying they're bad games at all. What I'm saying is that the characters you knew when you were a kid mean more to you than the newer ones. Unless you are in your 20's then your first system was probably an NES or a Master System.

Sony hate? They essentially stole everything about Smash Brothers. Should they be applauded?

As for 'memorable' characters, that's Sony's fault. All of their 'memorable' characters from the PS1 era ditched them and went multi platform. Crash was the defect Sony mascot during the PS1 era. Now he's on every console. Ditto with Spyro. Aside from a few you mentioned, Sony is really stretching with some of these characters. They can't get a mascot. Nintendo, Microsoft and even Sega have recognizable mascots.

glassdragon
04-28-12, 04:28 PM
And Saints row pretty much stole everything from Grand theft auto. Your point is?

I personally like saints row way better than GTA. It's all how they make it. And while the mascot has been around longer I would say that sony has quite a few mascots going for them, 2 of which i mentioned earlier. Just about everyone knows who Kratos is, just as everyone knows who Master Chief is.

And yes, hate. There is a game called Small Arms for Live arcade which is essentially a not quite as impressive exact version of SSB, but I didn't hear anyone get up in arms about that one

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Anyone who refuses to play a game that might be fun because of their own hatred towards a brand, character, company, etc are the ones missing out imo.

For the record, I did not like Twilight princess at all, but at least I gave it a shot and played it for a few hours before passing judgement on it even though I can't stand the wii.

Decker
04-28-12, 04:33 PM
Sony hate? They essentially stole everything about Smash Brothers. Should they be applauded?

As for 'memorable' characters, that's Sony's fault. All of their 'memorable' characters from the PS1 era ditched them and went multi platform. Crash was the defect Sony mascot during the PS1 era. Now he's on every console. Ditto with Spyro. Aside from a few you mentioned, Sony is really stretching with some of these characters. They can't get a mascot. Nintendo, Microsoft and even Sega have recognizable mascots.

Gizmo, you have been, for over a decade now, the poster-boy for Sony hate. From your bashing the PS2 build quality here ages ago to your dismissing the Vita on the CAG forums earlier this year. You're entitled to your opinion, sure. But don't hotly deny a personal aversion to Sony when the evidence is a mile long and nearly a generation in duration.

BTW two characters of the four in that video (Pa Rappa and Sweet Tooth) were PS1 Sony characters. Yes, they don't have the stable of familiar characters that Nintendo has, but then again, they've also made some memorable new characters and games this Century rather than recycling their old characters and games over and over and over and over and over and over again.

Gizmo
04-28-12, 05:04 PM
Gizmo, you have been, for over a decade now, the poster-boy for Sony hate. From your bashing the PS2 build quality here ages ago to your dismissing the Vita on the CAG forums earlier this year. You're entitled to your opinion, sure. But don't hotly deny a personal aversion to Sony when the evidence is a mile long and nearly a generation in duration.

BTW two characters of the four in that video (Pa Rappa and Sweet Tooth) were PS1 Sony characters. Yes, they don't have the stable of familiar characters that Nintendo has, but then again, they've also made some memorable new characters and games this Century rather than recycling their old characters and games over and over and over and over and over and over again.

And yet, I have a Vita (thankfully I didn't pay for the damn thing otherwise I'd be pissed at the lack of games). I've had several PS3s. I don't like Sony, but there is no denying this is a direct ripoff of Smash Brothers. I pretty much avoid this sub forum here since it's so Pro-Sony (which makes sense, given our ages and how dominant the PS1/PS2 was, and the loyalty some have to Sony), and I'll likely continue to do so. The OP already started off with excuses of other games that "copied" Sony games. Right, because Vigilante 8 and Twisted Metal are super well known franchises. But hey - Nintendo might not even make another Smash Brothers (according to glass dragon) because they just posted a loss! It's not like Sony didn't just post a 2.1 Billion dollar one. No worries though, I won't post in this thread again. I'll just wait for Smash Brother on the Wii U and Sony fans can enjoy this copycat.

Pa Rappa and Sweet Tooth? You think those are memorable characters? They might be recognizable to the hard core game player, but casual gamers won't know who they are. Sweet Tooth might get a bit more traction since the latest TM game just came out, but probably not even by name. Just that guy from Twisted Metal.

glassdragon
04-28-12, 05:11 PM
You complain an awful lot about things there gizmo.

I never denied that it was very similar, but what does that even matter if it's fun?

Oh it doesn't, I just think you enjoy complaining

And your assertion that any saying this game looks ok makes them pro-sony is laughable. How about pro-good games. You should try stepping out of your box sometime, it's nice out here

I also want to say that sure, 500 million looks small in comparision compared to 2.1 billion, but we are talking about a company that only stays in the realm of software and hardware being compared to a company that is in multiple facets of technology and entertainment. Consoles, tv, sound systems, and movie distribution just to name a few. I don't know what the exact numbers for both companies are for year end of say last year, but I would imagine that with such a foothold in entertainment that Sony brought in a whole lot more than Nintendo, so it's common sense that their losses may be higher than that of a company that isn't pulling in as much.

Oh, and nintendo has money, but it's already been stated by quite a few sources I believe that if the Wii U fails then this will likely be their last console. And the developers are already starting to say that it isn't even as powerful as the ps3 or 360. They can't rely on new gimmicks forever and continue to stay behind the pack in terms of graphics and power. Of course, we'll see when it's released. I won't count it out until I can try it or see it for myself, i won't do what others might be doing with this game.

Sorry for the digress. Back on topic, I'll probably just rent this to see if I like it first. I'm not paying full price until I can try it first

Dragon Tattoo
04-28-12, 07:38 PM
Oh, and nintendo has money, but it's already been stated by quite a few sources I believe that if the Wii U fails then this will likely be their last console.

This doesn't make sense to me at all. Aren't the Wii and Nintendo DS two of the most successful consoles ever? Why would one bad dud (If the Wii U even turns out to be a dud) take them out of the game?

mhg83
04-28-12, 07:56 PM
Ever since WOW came out almost every competing MMO uses the same User Interface and gameplay. No one complains about that anymore because it's a working and winning formula.

Decker
04-28-12, 10:12 PM
Microsoft should also come out with a SSB clone with memorable MS-exclusive characters. You could have Master Chief, Marcus Fenix and .....well, maybe it could be a two-person game.

bluetoast
04-28-12, 10:21 PM
They could always bring back Blinx the cat. And also that lady and that robot from the original XBOX tech demo from 2001 or so.

glassdragon
04-29-12, 02:42 AM
This doesn't make sense to me at all. Aren't the Wii and Nintendo DS two of the most successful consoles ever? Why would one bad dud (If the Wii U even turns out to be a dud) take them out of the game?

The wii is pretty sucessful mostly for price. Sure the console didn't really compete with the others on graphics, but it was cheap and fairly fun for the cheap price it started at. Problem with Wii U is that it's not going to be a cheap system and if we thought controllers for 360 and ps3 were expensive, the wii u ones are going to be ridiculous I imagine. Nintendo just posted their first loss in 30 years and it's because they take a hit on the 3ds with each unit sold.

I really hope it doesn't break them if the Wii U isn't a hit. A loss of competition is never in the best interest for anyone.

bluetoast
04-29-12, 10:38 AM
Only one Wii U controller can be used on one system, so I don't see people buying extras. Plus it's compatible with the Wiimotes, which aren't that expensive. Since many people interested in the Wii U will have the Wii anyway, so it shouldn't be a difficult transition.

Gizmo
04-29-12, 12:41 PM
The wii is pretty sucessful mostly for price. Sure the console didn't really compete with the others on graphics, but it was cheap and fairly fun for the cheap price it started at. Problem with Wii U is that it's not going to be a cheap system and if we thought controllers for 360 and ps3 were expensive, the wii u ones are going to be ridiculous I imagine. Nintendo just posted their first loss in 30 years and it's because they take a hit on the 3ds with each unit sold.

I really hope it doesn't break them if the Wii U isn't a hit. A loss of competition is never in the best interest for anyone.

So you have proof the wii U "won't be a cheap system"? Care to share that source? Or is this just an assumption? You think it will be the $500/$600 range that the PS3 was?

Yes, Nintendo just posted there first loss in 30 years. We get it. But your already proclaiming the death them? Do you just ignore every bad Sony news items that comes down the line? Sony posted a loss as well. The PS3 is in last place in the console wars. Sony lost tons of the PS3. They were in First place for the past two generations and are now in last. But that's OK and they will be around forever but Nintendo might not be? Gees. To the Ignore list you go.

mhg83
04-29-12, 01:39 PM
My prediction:

$350 retail price

$250 for the system

$100 for the Tablet Controller

glassdragon
04-29-12, 02:23 PM
Only one Wii U controller can be used on one system, so I don't see people buying extras. Plus it's compatible with the Wiimotes, which aren't that expensive. Since many people interested in the Wii U will have the Wii anyway, so it shouldn't be a difficult transition.

That's true, I forgot about the built in support for wiimotes.

As I said though, I hope it doesn't kill nintendo, less competition is not a good thing. I figure the system because of the controller will be like 300 to 350 which while not a lot now, it's a much higher price than the wii came out at. I hope for that extra 100 bucks it have the value to make up for it.

And the reason I think it could have a bigger effect on them and not the ps3 or 360 is due to the fact that Nintendo's only source of income for the most part is consoles and games. Both MS and Sony have other very successful divisions to fall back upon to take the brunt of lost money on the system for awhile. I don't know how long Nintendo could go hemorrhaging the type of money that Sony and MS did when their systems first hit, or after their price drops. I don't believe either reported any profit on the actual system for a year or 2 after. Sony taking longer to see a profit of course.

And it's ok Gizmo, i was thinking of putting you on my ignore list anyways seeing as I ignored you on CAG like 6 months ago. I rarely see you post anything that has any kind of validity to it without incessant whining (It annoys the piss out of me when adults whine about everything). So It saves me from seeing your posts too.

stupiddimbulb
04-29-12, 02:28 PM
Provided they make another, they just posted their first loss in 30 years and it's not small. Close to 500 million dollars.

Yes, because Nintendo finally had a loss means that their already announced Smash Brothers games on 3ds and Wii U aren't going to come out. Go back in your hole, troll.

Gizmo
04-29-12, 02:39 PM
My prediction:

$350 retail price

$250 for the system

$100 for the Tablet Controller

Selling the Wii U without the tablet....I don't see it. I'm still going with the $299.99 price, which is probably pretty fair considering the Wii was $249 at launch.

Anything higher than $299 (unless its a bundle with game), would just be stupid. The PS3 is going to be $199 come E3 (already that price at Game Stop - albeit a "temporary price" - but we all know what that means), and I'm sure MS will jump in around that price as well. Since the Wii U will have zero competition for at least a year, that price should help the people who want a new console but have no interest in the 360 and/or PS3. Sony was killed at the $500 price, and MS only limped by because it was the first to launch. The Wii U tablet will be an interesting thing...will it hurt 3DS sales? Help? What becomes of the Vita (which is already giving away free games and accessories just to lure people to buy it)?

bluetoast
04-29-12, 03:07 PM
You guys are over on CAG? How has it been there? I haven't been in a while, but used to be a mod there back in '03-05.

glassdragon
04-29-12, 03:08 PM
Regardless. The whole point of this thread was never for it to turn into a console pissing match. Every console is good in it's own right and I enjoy quite a few games for each console. This game may suck bad, but I'll try it before condemning it. If I like it then who knows, maybe I'll pick up a cheap Wii and check out SSBB. If this is going to continue with people flaming others then the mods can close it now.

You guys are over on CAG? How has it been there? I haven't been in a while, but used to be a mod there back in '03-05.

I don't go there as much anymore, but for the most part the community is pretty cool to each other.

Supermallet
04-29-12, 03:11 PM
glassdragon is a troll now? Come on.

bluetoast
04-29-12, 03:17 PM
I still don't understand why they designed it such that only one of those controllers will work on one system. The Wii emphasized multi-player on one console, so what's with giving one player "more control"?

If that's the case then is the emphasis for this controller on one player games? Or will there be limited functionality for the other players?

I've always wanted a "Dreamcast controller 2.0" and was looking forward to this design, but it looks like this is not it if multiple parties cannot participate. But I'll wait to see what the it's going to be used for.

glassdragon
04-29-12, 03:25 PM
I still don't understand why they designed it such that only one of those controllers will work on one system. The Wii emphasized multi-player on one console, so what's with giving one player "more control"?

If that's the case then is the emphasis for this controller on one player games? Or will there be limited functionality for the other players?

I've always wanted a "Dreamcast controller 2.0" and was looking forward to this design, but it looks like this is not it if multiple parties cannot participate. But I'll wait to see what the it's going to be used for.

Maybe it's a hardware limitation. Like for some reason the system won't pair with more than one item at once if it's using an older version of bluetooth.

I can't imagine that Nintendo had a round table and went "Hey, lets make this awesome new controller, but only limit it to one player per system so that it's only really useful on one player games". Sounds like shooting themselves in the foot.

Gizmo
04-29-12, 03:46 PM
You guys are over on CAG? How has it been there? I haven't been in a while, but used to be a mod there back in '03-05.

Mostly kids from GameFaqs now. It gets annoying arguing with 14 year olds so I've pretty much stopped posting aside from some bargains. It's all about loopholes and hoarding now. Buy up cheap $5 games from Best buy for $7 credit at Game Stop. And if they do it 30 times, they get a game for free! No, really.

Gizmo
04-29-12, 03:50 PM
I still don't understand why they designed it such that only one of those controllers will work on one system. The Wii emphasized multi-player on one console, so what's with giving one player "more control"?

If that's the case then is the emphasis for this controller on one player games? Or will there be limited functionality for the other players?

I've always wanted a "Dreamcast controller 2.0" and was looking forward to this design, but it looks like this is not it if multiple parties cannot participate. But I'll wait to see what the it's going to be used for.

IIRC, Nintendo said they have thought about multiple tablet controllers for the system after the E3 introduction. Could possible be because of too much 'power' to stream something to four different controllers. It's not like the little VMU Sega had (which is still cool as shit)

bluetoast
04-29-12, 06:45 PM
Mostly kids from GameFaqs now. It gets annoying arguing with 14 year olds so I've pretty much stopped posting aside from some bargains. It's all about loopholes and hoarding now. Buy up cheap $5 games from Best buy for $7 credit at Game Stop. And if they do it 30 times, they get a game for free! No, really.

Ah that sucks. Although CheapyD is still cool haha. I used to go to GameFaqs all the time, that's changed a lot too...

Decker
10-15-12, 12:00 PM
From the Playstation Blog (http://blog.us.playstation.com/2012/10/15/playstation-all-stars-battle-royale-beta-access-begins-tuesday-for-ps3-ps-vita/):

PlayStation All-Stars Battle Royale Beta Access Begins Tuesday for PS3, PS Vita

+ Posted by Cristian Cardona // Associate Product Marketing Manager, Software Marketing

We hope you’ve been keeping track of all the recent updates on PlayStation All-Stars Battle Royale news, from an in-depth update on the PS Vita version to our behind-the-scenes look at mashing up different worlds, we’ve shown you what this game is shaping up to be…and we think it’s high time you try it out for yourselves!

Today, we’re happy to announce that the PlayStation All-Stars Battle Royale Beta will kick off for PlayStation Plus members on PS3 tomorrow, October 16th and expand to everyone October 23rd through PlayStation Store! What’s more, as a special treat, PS Vita users will be able dive right into the multiplayer beta starting tomorrow – no Plus subscription required. The Beta will support Cross-Play, so PS3 and PS Vita owners will be able to fight with and against each other.

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So what will be in this limited Beta?

You’ll be able to play as Kratos, Sweet Tooth, Colonel Radec, Sly Cooper, PaRappa, and Fat Princess.
You’ll be able to play in both the Metropolis and Hades stages.
You’ll be able to try out four-player online tournaments and 2 v 2 online tournaments. For the 2 v 2 games we’ll be supporting friend invites, so you and a friend can fight another team online.

This, of course, is only a tiny fraction of what PlayStation All-Stars has to offer, but we thought you’d love the chance to try it early and see what all the buzz is about. Be sure to hop on quickly as we’ll be ending the Beta on October 30th!

But that’s not all. As you know, we have a pre-order program [blog link] running right now that unlocks a set of exclusive costumes in the game. Today we’re happy to unveil the rest of the costumes you’ll be getting with your pre-order of PlayStation All-Stars Battle Royale.

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Unlocked with your pre-order at participating retailers, these costumes will work for both the PS3 and PS Vita when it releases on November 20th, so be sure to reserve your copy today. And don’t forget: PlayStation All-Stars features Cross-Buy support, so if you purchase the PS3 version, you’ll get a downloadable PS Vita version for no extra cost.

With Beta access beginning tomorrow, we look forward to getting your feedback on the game and seeing what you think of this highly anticipated title. Spread the word and we’ll see you online!

Decker
10-23-12, 02:19 AM
Impressive live-action 2 minute ad. A follow up to the legendary "Michael" ad from last year.

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Decker
11-21-12, 12:48 AM
Well, I got my game today and thought this was interesting. I had assumed the way that Cross-Buy would work for retail games was that the game came with an online pass code (it does) and that downloading the online pass also gives you the Vita game in your download history (it does not). Instead, there's an option when you insert the disc for Disc Benefits (it's a disc with benefits!). Selecting that option gives you a message that will allow you to add the disc to your account to receive the disc benefits. You can add the disc only once and after adding the disc to your account, it cannot be added to any other account. It then sends you onto the PSN store where the Vita game then shows up free and you can purchase it and download it. Bottom line, I suppose is first guy who rents a copy from a Redbox gets the Vita version for free. Also I have no idea how the disc knows if the benefits have been used or not -- maybe someone can enlighten me. It's so weird, why not just tie the Vita license to the Online Pass insert?