Absolutely amazing news. Part of me is disappointed because we'll only get 13 episodes but I guess beggars...
argh923
04-26-12, 06:39 PM
YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I love the faith that FOX has shown in this show. FOX is really getting good about this...they even gave the Sarah Connor Chronicles a 2nd season after its bad first season ratings.
redrum
04-26-12, 06:40 PM
perfect
movie diva
04-26-12, 06:47 PM
Thats great they can go out with a bang. I do enjoy this show.
critterdvd
04-26-12, 06:48 PM
I am in shock. Happy Shock. I just can't believe it!
While I love the show and I have been very thankful for season 4, the ratings just don't justify the renewal - thank goodness Warner Brother's bottom line does. :)
Bob_Bobbson
04-26-12, 06:49 PM
YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I love the faith that FOX has shown in this show. FOX is really getting good about this...they even gave the Sarah Connor Chronicles a 2nd season after its bad first season ratings.
Dollhouse too.
I guess Fox really is more willing to give a show a chance than they used to be.
dex14
04-26-12, 06:50 PM
13 episodes is better. Less villian a week stories and more of the overall story at a high octane speed.
argh923
04-26-12, 06:51 PM
I really can't help but think Jericho started all this. I was a small part of the 'NUTS' campaign, and it's seemed like ever since then, shows with cult followings like this are much more likely to get second and third chances.
chowderhead
04-26-12, 06:56 PM
more likely that WB gave FOX the show for next to nothing. Fox could have done much better honestly then renewing a show with 3 million viewers and 1.0 demos. Still no syndication deal yet for a show with 80+ episodes already. Can 2 million viewers and CW demos be far behind?
N2DVD
04-26-12, 07:08 PM
(bows head for Firefly). Where were these guys a few years ago?
Raul3
04-26-12, 07:08 PM
This made my day.
The ball is in your side Fringe writers.
Goldberg74
04-26-12, 07:18 PM
:banana::banana::banana::banana::banana:
superdeluxe
04-26-12, 07:25 PM
Not a watcher but good for fox giving fringe a final season to wrap it all up
JSwarce
04-26-12, 07:29 PM
(bows head for Firefly). Where were these guys a few years ago?
This. If only we could turn back the clocks on that decision. Maybe Firefly has had multiple seasons in the other Fringe universe.
Really happy about the renewal. 13 episodes should let the writers really move the story along to a great conclusion, without any of the MOTW episodes.
--John
DJariya
04-26-12, 07:37 PM
:thumbsup: Great news. Very happy. I've watched every week since day 1.
JH Wyman was pretty optimistic in his tweets this week about the renewal.
To show WB my appreciation, I'm going to purchase the season 4 BD release week and pay the $35-40. :D
:thumbsup: Kevin Reilly is the man! Despite bad ratings, he supports shows that he thinks are good and that he knows has a fanbase. When he was at NBC, he renewed Friday Night Lights for a 2nd season when it probably didn't deserve one either.
DJariya
04-26-12, 07:38 PM
Not a watcher but good for fox giving fringe a final season to wrap it all up
Do they need to add some Dothraki and Dragons in season 5 for you to watch? ;)
Goldberg74
04-26-12, 07:38 PM
To show WB my appreciation, I'm going to purchase the season 4 BD release week and pay the $35-40. :DThis!
... and I'll do a marathon before the 5th Season airs!
My 14yo son and 12 yo daughter started watching with me mid season this season. They want to bust out the blus and catch up this summer. :up:
chowderhead
04-26-12, 07:39 PM
Kevin Reilly ... When he was at NBC,
I see the problem now. Fox is going the way of NBC. American Idol is now dropping hard and they haven't had a new hit in years.
DJariya
04-26-12, 07:40 PM
more likely that WB gave FOX the show for next to nothing. Fox could have done much better honestly then renewing a show with 3 million viewers and 1.0 demos. Still no syndication deal yet for a show with 80+ episodes already. Can 2 million viewers and CW demos be far behind?
WB is going to make their money back on a 5th season with the DVD/BD sales, Itunes, Amazon Instant Video along with the International TV sales. I'm pretty sure they were willing to give away a 5th season for next to nothing to FOX since they have other ways to make their money back.
ChrisHicks
04-26-12, 07:59 PM
I don't know which is making me smile more, the renewal or all the haters blowing up about the news...
mhg83
04-26-12, 08:07 PM
So will that make it 100 episodes?
Great news. This is my new favorite show. It keeps amazing me every week and am glad it didn't get cancelled back in season 2 or 3.
It seems that most shows lose creativity after 100 episodes so it looks like we'll have a flawless series.
Michael Corvin
04-26-12, 08:33 PM
Hopefully they won't waste half of those 13. [cough] Chuck [ /cough]
I don't know which is making me smile more, the renewal or all the haters blowing up about the news...
Haters?
DJariya
04-26-12, 08:36 PM
Haters?
Oh yeah, TVbythenumbers.com has alot of knuckleheads who rip it every week and say it deserved to get cancelled, blah blah blah.
BTW, are you up to date with the show or are you way behind? I don't think I've seen you comment on 1 thread this season.
Dragon Tattoo
04-26-12, 08:42 PM
Who keeps letting Reilly run these networks into the ground?
ChrisHicks
04-26-12, 08:48 PM
Haters?
see below.
Oh yeah, TVbythenumbers.com has alot of knuckleheads who rip it every week and say it deserved to get cancelled, blah blah blah.
It gets really old seeing those same posts week after week too. I just don't get why some people feel the need to root for shows they don't even watch to get canceled.
windom
04-26-12, 09:00 PM
So what does this do for the chances of Alcatraz coming back?
flashburn
04-26-12, 09:21 PM
Fuck yeah, so happy we are getting one more season.
DJariya
04-26-12, 09:23 PM
So what does this do for the chances of Alcatraz coming back?
What I personally hope for would be Fringe running from mid-late September to mid-late January non-stop, then Alcatraz takes over the timeslot for the rest of the season.
davidh777
04-26-12, 09:30 PM
We're going back to 2036! :banana:
Timber
04-26-12, 09:42 PM
What I personally hope for would be Fringe running from mid-late September to mid-late January non-stop, then Alcatraz takes over the timeslot for the rest of the season.
That would be the best possible outcome for a fan of both shows.
It's funny overnight viewership, Fringe averages around a 1.2 in the 18-49 demos, which is terrible. According to this article, with DVR playback, it averages around a 2.0, which is decent for FOX.
I guess practically everyone who watches the show, DVRs it and watches it later.
Flave
04-26-12, 10:18 PM
I can't be bothered to learn how to do that happy banana thing but, yeah, that. Should be a great final season.
It's funny overnight viewership, Fringe averages around a 1.2 in the 18-49 demos, which is terrible. According to this article, with DVR playback, it averages around a 2.0, which is decent for FOX.
I guess practically everyone who watches the show, DVRs it and watches it later.
It's funny overnight viewership, Fringe averages around a 1.2 in the 18-49 demos, which is terrible. According to this article, with DVR playback, it averages around a 2.0, which is decent for FOX.
I guess practically everyone who watches the show, DVRs it and watches it later.
advertisers don't pay for DVR numbers since viewers skip commercials. The only reason Fox is bringing this back is because WB gave them the show practically for free.
davidh777
04-26-12, 10:46 PM
I can't be bothered to learn how to do that happy banana thing but, yeah, that. Should be a great final season.
Just type "banana" surrounded by colons and you should be good
DJariya
04-26-12, 10:50 PM
advertisers don't pay for DVR numbers since viewers skip commercials. The only reason Fox is bringing this back is because WB gave them the show practically for free.
I don't know if you know, but ratings for DVR viewership are only counted if you watch the commercials. (I'm not kidding and I know it defeats the purpose of a DVR) You have to watch your DVR recording within 7 days with commercials for it to be tabulated into those numbers. Viewers who fast forward through commecials don't count in the Live +7 ratings. Fringe's April 6th episode ratings grew 80% with DVR numbers.
Your being a little feisty. I'm not sure if your pissed that it got renewed or just genuinely surprised.
RoboDad
04-26-12, 11:51 PM
Yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D :D
:banana: x 19838485849392827475586560950650958473722839056
YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I love the faith that FOX has shown in this show. FOX is really getting good about this...they even gave the Sarah Connor Chronicles a 2nd season after its bad first season ratings.
:banana::banana::banana::banana::banana:
Couldn't have said it better myself! :banana:
SuckaMC
04-26-12, 11:57 PM
Wooo hoooooo!!
DJariya
04-27-12, 12:28 AM
So will that make it 100 episodes?
Yes, with this 13 episode order, Fringe will have exactly 100 episodes.
Season 1= 20
Season 2= 23
Season 3= 22
Season 4= 22
Season 5= 13 = 100
With the advent of DVDs and BDs, honestly who is going to watch Fringe in repeats if it gets a syndication deal? Serialized shows already don't repeat well and IMO it's alot easier for a channel surfer to watch a The Office or 30 Rock repeat than a random episode of Fringe or even Chuck.
meritocracy
04-27-12, 12:37 AM
Great news! :banana:
PhantomStranger
04-27-12, 12:55 AM
Incredible and frankly unexpected news. There are rumors that Fox was actually losing money with the typical ratings that Fringe was pulling this season.
Autotelik
04-27-12, 01:05 AM
Great news. One of my favorites, and so happy that it should get a proper ending with episode 100.
MikahC
04-27-12, 01:14 AM
:banana:
I realize different people are in charge now but maybe this will cause some to think twice before repeating to tired old mantra that Fox never gives shows a chance. Fox tries to do what they all try to do -- make money. If shows don't bring in viewers, it is rarely Fox's fault. But they do seem to remember fans where possible. The 2 shows I most wanted to get a reprieve did get a reprieve -- Dollhouse and now Fringe.
Now the ball's in the court of the creative team at Fringe. Make us proud.
Setzer
04-27-12, 01:15 AM
Pissed its not a full season but I'll take it.
Jim Patterson
04-27-12, 01:33 AM
Great news, now we can get some answers to What is the Island?
mike7162
04-27-12, 02:15 AM
Usually the two words I type before Fox is "Fuck you" but this time it's "Thank you"!
Evan Meadow
04-27-12, 05:16 AM
What I personally hope for would be Fringe running from mid-late September to mid-late January non-stop, then Alcatraz takes over the timeslot for the rest of the season.
As Mr. Wonka would say: "Strike that, reverse it."
Alcatraz needs the fall season more then Fringe does. Gives the writers more time to get the scripts perfect before they start filming.
And sides, with it being a final season, it doesn't matter when it appears, we know its going to happen, and the fans will watch it numbers be damned.
So let's give Alcatraz the better shot in the arm.
Evan Meadow
04-27-12, 05:18 AM
Pissed its not a full season but I'll take it.
To be fair, the only number people REALLY would have been happy with is 19. :)
Superman07
04-27-12, 06:02 AM
Made my Friday. Excellent news!! :)
Michael Corvin
04-27-12, 06:20 AM
BTW, are you up to date with the show or are you way behind? I don't think I've seen you comment on 1 thread this season.
One of the few shows I watch within 24 hours of it airing. I commented in a couple threads, but have cut back on my posting.
superdeluxe
04-27-12, 09:27 AM
do they need to add some dothraki and dragons in season 5 for you to watch? ;)
yes :d
As with some shows, when Fringe took a extended winter break during the first season, I just never made it back. I think I saw the first 6-7 episodes.
yoshimi
04-27-12, 09:52 AM
I have the first three seasons on dvd and have only watched the first one. I really liked it but decided to wait until it ends to bother with rest of them. I figured it being on Fox it would get canceled without a resolution and it being produced by JJ Abrams if it got a resolution it would just suck. I will wait and see if the internet explodes from the last episode being horrible or not before I commit to the series.
RichC2
04-27-12, 09:56 AM
I only sporadically catch the show, I never cared for the Monster of the Week stuff but I did enjoy the overall story line they had going. The season 1 finale (namely the last 5 minutes) really sold me though, the entire thing reminded me of Half-Life, and that alone made me a fan.
GizmoDVD
04-27-12, 10:02 AM
WB is going to make their money back on a 5th season with the DVD/BD sales, Itunes, Amazon Instant Video along with the International TV sales. I'm pretty sure they were willing to give away a 5th season for next to nothing to FOX since they have other ways to make their money back.
Proof? The DVD/BD sales have been poor since Season 2, and the international market isn't very big for this show.
IMO, this was a pretty stupid deal for WB. Fox likely paid next to nothing for this, so it'll be spackle next Season, but WB is going to take a bath. Syndication is everyone will say...but what station will air this?
No, really. Lost is probably one of the most successful shows of the past decade and where can I currently watch it? What about Chuck (also a WB giveaway)? These type of shows just don't work in syndication. The only network that might air this is G4, but it's not likely to last much longer. Maybe SyFy? They tried that with Terminator: sarah Connor and dropped that show before the series had aired (which was something like 32 episode).
It's great fans get a final 13 episodes, but this just shows Fox is starting to panic. Glee has nose-dived. New Girl isn't what it was a few months ago. Bones is likely coming into it's last Season and...that's it.
GizmoDVD
04-27-12, 10:05 AM
I really can't help but think Jericho started all this. I was a small part of the 'NUTS' campaign, and it's seemed like ever since then, shows with cult followings like this are much more likely to get second and third chances.
and CBS has since stopped that since Jericho bombed when it came back for seven episodes. Sadly, Moonlight was casualty of this since they might have renewed it for a Second Season has the Jericho experiment not failed that same year (I still refuse to watch CBS).
Since then networks continue to try this and are met no success. Dollhouse. Chuck. Fringe. Breaking In. Human Target. Can't really blame them for canceling the shows. We might like them, but fans just don't suddenly pop up.
GizmoDVD
04-27-12, 10:07 AM
:banana:
I realize different people are in charge now but maybe this will cause some to think twice before repeating to tired old mantra that Fox never gives shows a chance. Fox tries to do what they all try to do -- make money. If shows don't bring in viewers, it is rarely Fox's fault. But they do seem to remember fans where possible. The 2 shows I most wanted to get a reprieve did get a reprieve -- Dollhouse and now Fringe.
Now the ball's in the court of the creative team at Fringe. Make us proud.
Fox doesn't give shows a chance. WB likely gave them the show for free and/or lower cost than a reality show.
Why would Fox turn down 13 original episodes of something that can be used as spackle once one of their Fall shows bomb and they need something ready in a heart beat? It's just good business sense. They don't give a shit about fans. They care about money. Don't fool yourself by reading network comments.
Ayre
04-27-12, 10:10 AM
Syndication is everyone will say...but what station will air this?
This. Same with DVD. It just isn't gonna happen. Watching 100 episodes of a serial show that wasn't very popular is a difficult sell. Especially something as complex and confusing as Fringe.
I think Fringe, like Friday Night Lights has survived, not by viewership, but by posterity. The good will created by renewing Fringe is more important than the bad will received by cancellation without resolution. They will strive to break even for the final season and write it off.
cleaver
04-27-12, 10:13 AM
Caps win game 7, hoping for Courtney Upshaw tonight for the Ravens, and Fringe gets renewed, so happy
RichC2
04-27-12, 10:30 AM
From a business prospective WB has something to gain from having the show "complete", but they're banking on an expanded cult status down the line.
Fox is actually a pretty lenient network when it comes to ratings, as long as a show stays above around a 2.0 (18 - 49) it has a pretty good chance of staying put. ie- New Girl has lost half its audience (10m premiere w/ a 4.7 in 18 - 49, 5.20m last week) but retains one of the highest 18 - 49 ratings on the network (2.6) and just behind their other primary main hit (Glee, 2.7), which has also slid heavily since Season 1. They were the most lenient right behind CW until NBC fell apart. ABC and especially CBS are slaughterhouses.
Not sure why Raising Hope got a pass other than they know they'd have an empty schedule without it. Their only concrete money makers seems to be their Sunday night block which is produced in-house, pulls low viewers but solid demo and has high syndication, and American Idol (which unlike their cartoons are one and done).
DJariya
04-27-12, 12:04 PM
Fox doesn't give shows a chance. WB likely gave them the show for free and/or lower cost than a reality show.
Why would Fox turn down 13 original episodes of something that can be used as spackle once one of their Fall shows bomb and they need something ready in a heart beat? It's just good business sense. They don't give a shit about fans. They care about money. Don't fool yourself by reading network comments.
The 2nd part of your comment is blatantly wrong. The 5th season is premiering in the Fall. It's not being used as a midseason replacement as your implying.
Most likely it will air on Friday yet again from September to January and then a cheaper show will finish the season. IMO, FOX is probably done investing in scripted for Friday nights. Noone is watching live and the best they can do is finish in 4th place.
And your sounding quite bitter, are you still pissed that Reunion got cancelled? ;)
Flave
04-27-12, 12:15 PM
Just type "banana" surrounded by colons and you should be good
:banana:
Damfino
04-27-12, 12:28 PM
We're going back to 2036! :banana:
I certainly hope so!
B.A.
04-27-12, 12:37 PM
Sweet tits!
Superman07
04-27-12, 01:26 PM
I think it would be interesting if they spread out their animation, and instead ran this final 13 Sundays at 9. I feel like hat could help it pick up more viewers.
nintendospy
04-27-12, 02:02 PM
Best news I've heard since the season 4 renewal! Thank you FOX and WB!
I'm so glad to get one more season, albeit shortened. I hope with the end date set in stone the writers can send the show off properly.
Deftones
04-27-12, 02:04 PM
. Syndication is everyone will say...but what station will air this?
Sci-fi channel comes to mind...
argh923
04-27-12, 02:20 PM
Fox doesn't give shows a chance.
Dollhouse and Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles say hello.
Ayre
04-27-12, 02:46 PM
Sci-fi channel comes to mind...
Only if it's sold to them dirt cheap and shown at 11pm. Syfy is anything but Sci-Fi. I seriously doubt any station would touch this show. All you would have to do is miss a few episodes and then you have to wait till a marathon to catch up. The blu-ray/dvd market is big, but the cost will be high. The download market has the potential, but the audience is much smaller. I really don't think there is an after air market for Fringe. It's gonna cost the consumer a lot more than free. I would expect $30 a season. $120 for the 5 seasons. Maybe $100 on special.
GizmoDVD
04-27-12, 03:30 PM
Dollhouse and Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles say hello.
Dollhouse was there own studio. They could make money off it.
Terminator (back 9) was given to them by WB for Free. It was only renewed for a second season in hopes that that new movie would spark interest in the show. Well, that didn't work.
Two shows, both canceled after Two shortened seasons.
rw2516
04-27-12, 03:30 PM
Ever since the show returned from holiday break I've noticed heavy regular sponsorship by Ford. How many times have we seen the mustang commercial with the car changing colors depending on who's looking at. One episode had blatant product placement with the Fringe team and FBI all driving the new Ford electric car. Maybe this has worked out well for Ford.
Possibly Ford has already agreed to sponsor 13 more episodes at a locked in rate. The cost of production may be subsidized by Ford with everybody driving Ford vehicles in the show.
onebyone
04-27-12, 03:36 PM
Thanks for the post. Now I can start the weekend off in a great mood, because I wasn't ready to say good bye to these guys just yet.
I am so glad Fox gave us one more season, even if it is short. I will take it.
GizmoDVD
04-27-12, 03:40 PM
Sci-fi channel comes to mind...
Awesome.
What syndicated shows does the channel currently air?
I see Twilight Zone. Everything else is either movies or there own shows (as far as I can tell).
So the SyFy channel would pick up Fringe? A show that is averaging a .9 and is heavily serialized? What time slot would it have?
mugwump
04-27-12, 03:40 PM
Don't mess up the ending, don't mess up the ending, don't mess up the ending. No, seriously, don't mess up the ending. It's usually these sci-fi type series that are given a definite end date that tend to go bonkers during the final episodes in an ill-advised attempt to answer every little question that's popped up over the previous X number of years.
Shazam
04-27-12, 04:10 PM
Ever since the show returned from holiday break I've noticed heavy regular sponsorship by Ford. How many times have we seen the mustang commercial with the car changing colors depending on who's looking at. One episode had blatant product placement with the Fringe team and FBI all driving the new Ford electric car. Maybe this has worked out well for Ford.
Possibly Ford has already agreed to sponsor 13 more episodes at a locked in rate. The cost of production may be subsidized by Ford with everybody driving Ford vehicles in the show.The product placement is so blatant, it's ridiculous. They've even zoomed onto Olivia activating the Sync interface on the steering wheel. And when Nissan was a sponsor, they had a long lingering shot on the Leaf getting recharged :lol:
GizmoDVD
04-27-12, 04:12 PM
The product placement is so blatant, it's ridiculous. They've even zoomed onto Olivia activating the Sync interface on the steering wheel. And when Nissan was a sponsor, they had a long lingering shot on the Leaf getting recharged :lol:
Same thing on Bones and The Finder. Really annoying.
argh923
04-27-12, 04:24 PM
Dollhouse was there own studio. They could make money off it.
Terminator (back 9) was given to them by WB for Free. It was only renewed for a second season in hopes that that new movie would spark interest in the show. Well, that didn't work.
Two shows, both canceled after Two shortened seasons.
The point is, they gave them a chance.
And Terminator had a full 22 episode 2nd season.
lisadoris
04-27-12, 04:33 PM
Same thing on Bones and The Finder. Really annoying.
It's blatant and annoying but it's what keeps the shows on the air so I suck it up and have learned to live with it.
Deftones
04-27-12, 04:37 PM
Awesome.
What syndicated shows does the channel currently air?
I see Twilight Zone. Everything else is either movies or there own shows (as far as I can tell).
So the SyFy channel would pick up Fringe? A show that is averaging a .9 and is heavily serialized? What time slot would it have?
aren't you just a golden ray of fucking sunshine in this thread. :rolleyes:
GizmoDVD
04-27-12, 11:14 PM
The point is, they gave them a chance.
And Terminator had a full 22 episode 2nd season.
No, not really. A lot of shows get "a second chance" for various reasons. In Fox's case, they dreamed of a scripted Friday night with Dollhouse and had hopes the WB Terminator flick would spark interest in Sarah Connor. Neither worked out.
Re-read. WB gave them the back 9 for free/netx to nothing. It would have been shitcanned after the initial 13 episodes. Can't remember when this was moved to Friday either....IIRC it was originally on Mondays.
L
GizmoDVD
04-27-12, 11:17 PM
aren't you just a golden ray of fucking sunshine in this thread. :rolleyes:
It is what it is. This show has limited syndication. Aside from international sales the show has next to nothing. DVD/BD sales are also pretty low for this.
Chuck has better syndication possibilities with the format of the show. Fringe makes no sense if you miss two episodes (apart from Season One).
GizmoDVD
04-27-12, 11:19 PM
It's blatant and annoying but it's what keeps the shows on the air so I suck it up and have learned to live with it.
Shows were kept on the air long before these stupid "ads" started. In Ones case, it's heavily syndicated so each episode is likely already "paid for".
Deftones
04-27-12, 11:20 PM
It is what it is. This show has limited syndication. Aside from international sales the show has next to nothing. DVD/BD sales are also pretty low for this.
Chuck has better syndication possibilities with the format of the show. Fringe makes no sense if you miss two episodes (apart from Season One).
doesn't need to make sense to you since you aren't making the decisions.
GizmoDVD
04-27-12, 11:25 PM
doesn't need to make sense to you since you aren't making the decisions.
Dude, your show with one of the lowest ratings on network TV just got renewed. Cheer up! Just think of the show Fox will now likely cancel to make way for 13 more episodes that likely won't break a 1.0. Cya Alcatraz! Cya Finder!
Don't worry, they'll save face by renewing the ever dropping Touch for 13 episodes just to say they didn't cancel any of there one hour dramas this year. Just to cancel it next Season. I know Fox too well. Maybe they can add a female boss to the cast! I heard Meagan Mullay is available....after Fox tried to save face by renewing low performing Breaking In.
atxbomber
04-28-12, 12:26 AM
TV show fandom, it's serious business.
CKMorpheus
04-28-12, 12:29 AM
TV show fandom, it's serious business.
:lol: :thumbsup:
Bronkster
04-28-12, 10:26 AM
Read about this in the paper this morning! :dance: :banana: :dance: :banana: :dance: :banana:
davidh777
04-28-12, 11:07 AM
It's blatant and annoying but it's what keeps the shows on the air so I suck it up and have learned to live with it.
I agree. Advertisers and networks know that people skip the commercials so they need to do something different. Same with the ads that incorporate characters in order to trick us into watching them.
I think it would be interesting if they spread out their animation, and instead ran this final 13 Sundays at 9. I feel like hat could help it pick up more viewers.
I like the thinking, and I think it could be a good Sunday show, but what chance do new viewers have to figure out what's going on? :lol:
GizmoDVD
04-28-12, 11:14 AM
Why would Fox mess with the success that is the Sunday cartoon block? They've tried live shows there before - 'Til Death, Sons of Tuscons etc and it has never worked. Aside from the X-Files nearly a decade ago, Fox has had zero live action hits on Sunday. And for it's final season? They don't care. The ratings don't matter.
Mike86
04-28-12, 12:17 PM
I've never seen this show but always thought it looked decent. Might have to check out the seasons on Blu-ray eventually.
Draven
04-28-12, 01:02 PM
Shows were kept on the air long before these stupid "ads" started. In Ones case, it's heavily syndicated so each episode is likely already "paid for".
Not in the same DVR-heavy world with 100s of channels to choose from. They have to change the model to keep these shows on the air. And besides, at lot of times they are doing things that people actually do do (showing off a new feature in your car, or just plain using that feature yourself). It just feels weird for a TV show because we aren't used to it.
Nth Power
04-28-12, 01:32 PM
Read about this in the paper this morning! :dance: :banana: :dance: :banana: :dance: :banana:
Me too! :banana:
Geofferson
04-28-12, 03:19 PM
Wow - just hearing about this for the first time today as well. Excellent news :up:
ChrisHicks
04-28-12, 09:42 PM
I'm just hoping they put a Subway in Walters lab next season.
TomOpus
04-29-12, 04:21 PM
I've never seen this show but always thought it looked decent. Might have to check out the seasons on Blu-ray eventually.I'm in the same boat. While it looked interesting, I didn't want to invest time only to have the show dumped with questions unanswered or subsequent seasons sucking.
I guess I will wait to see reaction to the series finale and then decide if it's worth picking up the eventual series collection on Blu-ray.
auto
04-29-12, 04:41 PM
I'm in the same boat. While it looked interesting, I didn't want to invest time only to have the show dumped with questions unanswered or subsequent seasons sucking.
I guess I will wait to see reaction to the series finale and then decide if it's worth picking up the eventual series collection on Blu-ray.
Based on that method, guess you'll never watch Lost. :lol:
GizmoDVD
04-29-12, 04:58 PM
I'm just hoping they put a Subway in Walters lab next season.
I could actually see that happening.
Shazam
04-29-12, 05:38 PM
It's more likely to be a Ford dealership.
SteveA
04-29-12, 06:15 PM
I don't know if you know, but ratings for DVR viewership are only counted if you watch the commercials. (I'm not kidding and I know it defeats the purpose of a DVR) You have to watch your DVR recording within 7 days with commercials for it to be tabulated into those numbers. Viewers who fast forward through commecials don't count in the Live +7 ratings. Fringe's April 6th episode ratings grew 80% with DVR numbers.
Your being a little feisty. I'm not sure if your pissed that it got renewed or just genuinely surprised.
I'm not really an expert on this, but I've read that the audience numbers the advertisers look at are the number of people who watch the commercials, not the shows. So you could FF through the programming and watch just the commercials, and that would count toward the rating. But the other way, watch the show and FF through commercials would not.
Now, if you're a Fringe fan and a Nielson family, one might think you could help the cause by first watching the show the way you normally do (FF through commercials), then invest some time and play through just the commercials several times to bump the ratings. Maybe you could read a book or something while this was going on. I'm kidding, of course. But still...
zoomgirl
04-30-12, 09:03 PM
I am super happy about this news! I was just wondering if a show is picked up like this for 13 episodes are there ever cases where they decide to give more...or once that decision is made I should not question the miracle and just except it?
GizmoDVD
04-30-12, 09:07 PM
I am super happy about this news! I was just wondering if a show is picked up like this for 13 episodes are there ever cases where they decide to give more...or once that decision is made I should not question the miracle and just except it?
Very rare. Especially since all 13 episodes will likely be shot by the time it airs so there is no 'going back' Wouldn't be surprised if they started up in the next few weeks with S5.
DJariya
04-30-12, 11:50 PM
Very rare. Especially since all 13 episodes will likely be shot by the time it airs so there is no 'going back' Wouldn't be surprised if they started up in the next few weeks with S5.
There is no way that all 13 episodes will be shot and completed by the time this premieres in September. One Tree Hill had a 13 episode order for their final season and they didn't wrap until mid-late November (even though they had a Spring premiere). They started shooting in June or July last year. Alot more work goes into Fringe with the special effects/post production. I follow Joel Wyman's Twitter page and he's shooting a movie for the next month and a 1/2. They won't start work on the show until later in the summer.
Gunde
05-01-12, 03:04 AM
Yeah the whole season in the can before airing happens only on cable.
ivelostr2
05-01-12, 07:04 PM
Based on that method, guess you'll never watch Lost. :lol:
or BSG
Deftones
05-01-12, 07:13 PM
Very rare. Especially since all 13 episodes will likely be shot by the time it airs so there is no 'going back' Wouldn't be surprised if they started up in the next few weeks with S5.
You really don't follow network TV closely, do you? :lol:
davidh777
05-01-12, 07:17 PM
I think cast and crew like the summer off so they can work on other stuff
TomOpus
05-01-12, 07:41 PM
Based on that method, guess you'll never watch Lost. :lol:Got sucked into Lost day one. I'm one of those that didn't hate the ending... or really liked it. I guess it was the only way they could get out of it. They dug themselves into holes too many times.
I also started watching, and enjoying, Heroes on day one. It just got too disjointed for me. I didn't care if they got a final season to finish any story lines or not.
Michael Corvin
05-01-12, 07:43 PM
I also started watching, and enjoying, Heroes on day one. It just got too disjointed for me. I didn't care if they got a final season to finish any story lines or not.
Come on! You got two of the most powerful superheroes on the planet pushing dirt back and forth for the big finale. What more could you ask for?
GizmoDVD
05-01-12, 11:34 PM
There is no way that all 13 episodes will be shot and completed by the time this premieres in September. One Tree Hill had a 13 episode order for their final season and they didn't wrap until mid-late November (even though they had a Spring premiere). They started shooting in June or July last year. Alot more work goes into Fringe with the special effects/post production. I follow Joel Wyman's Twitter page and he's shooting a movie for the next month and a 1/2. They won't start work on the show until later in the summer.
...assuming it launches in The Fall. Fox can hold these episodes for as long as they want. Just because they said it will air in "fall" in May, does Not mean they will hold that promise come Sept/Oct. This show is far more expensive to make so a short break between Seasons 4 and 5 might work. Plus Im sure the cast would love to be considered for the next pilot Season as soon as possible.
But more then 13 isn't going to happen. This shows ratings are beyond pathetic and Fox likey only did a fifth season since it was practically free for them.
cleaver
08-30-12, 10:32 AM
Under a month away.
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Michael Corvin
08-30-12, 10:58 AM
Awesome. I'm starting to get bummed it's a short season though.
Draven
08-30-12, 11:37 AM
Fuck yes. I love this show.
RichC2
08-30-12, 11:46 AM
Awesome. I'm starting to get bummed it's a short season though.
At least we're getting it all at once and they're not breaking it up a la The Sopranos and Breaking Bad.
SuckaMC
08-30-12, 12:33 PM
Excited for this!
Raul3
08-30-12, 05:57 PM
Hell yeah!
Great trailer.
OTOH I still can't believe we got one last season! LOL!
nintendospy
08-30-12, 07:59 PM
I'm excited and sad at the same time. Fringe has been my favorite show on TV since it started. It's really hard to believe we ended up with 5 seasons. I didn't think it'd get renewed for a 3rd, or a 4th, and certainly not a 5th.
Can't wait to see how it ends!
DJariya
08-30-12, 08:03 PM
I'm glad the show got 5 seasons and 100 episodes, but I'm also a little upset that a very well made serialized science fiction show like this couldn't find a steady audience. I guess moving the show to Thursdays at 9pm was pretty much the nail in the coffin.
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