SPECTRE (Bond 24) (2015, D: Mendes) S: Craig, Waltz, Bellucci, Fiennes, Bautista
03-06-13, 04:29 PM
#52
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Re: Bond 24 (2014)
The more I rewatch the movies (especially watching them back-to-back with the new Blu-ray set), the more I come to the conclusion that Pierce was far and away the worst Bond. Some of that has to do with the fact that they stuck him in some lousy plots...but a lot of it has to do with his performance.
As for director, I'd love to see someone like Joe Wright (Hanna, Atonement) or Neil Jordan (The Crying Game, Interview With the Vampire) get a shot at Bond.
As for director, I'd love to see someone like Joe Wright (Hanna, Atonement) or Neil Jordan (The Crying Game, Interview With the Vampire) get a shot at Bond.
03-06-13, 06:50 PM
#54
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Re: Bond 24 (2014)
I still love TND and really like TWiNE. The former a wonderful take on the Roger Moore motif, updated for the 90s, and the latter is the closest they'd come to OHMSS since 1969. Goldeneye I like but I'm not as in love with as most seem to be. The less said about the 2nd half of Die Another Day, the better... Eyucch...
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03-07-13, 03:17 AM
#59
Re: Bond 24 (2014)
Danny Boyle can stay the fuck away from Bond, thank you very much.
I want to see more espionage and less hand-to-hand Bourne work, the series has strayed from it's roots in an attempt to be relevant to today's audience.
I want to see more espionage and less hand-to-hand Bourne work, the series has strayed from it's roots in an attempt to be relevant to today's audience.
03-07-13, 03:37 AM
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03-07-13, 04:03 AM
#61
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Re: Bond 24 (2014)
Not unexpected news... but a bit disappointing all the same. The game has really changed for the Bond franchise now.... they need to go after a visionary director of some kind. I'd be more than willing to give them three years to do it right, but it sounds like 2014 is locked in. I'd take Martin Campbell if it's the one that showed up for Casino Royale, vs the one that directed Vertical Limit and Green Lantern...
03-07-13, 06:14 AM
#63
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Re: Bond 24 (2014)
Actually he was fired. There's a new documentary called Everything Or Nothing that dishes all the dirt. Everybody is involved(except Connnery) so the info is straight from the horse's mouth.
Connery- originally had a six picture deal. Broke his contract. The differences between him and the producers went far beyond money, downright hatred. Connery once quit working on the set of YOLT when Saltzman walked on the set. Would not resume working till Saltzman left.
Lazenby- Wanted to be Bond for several pictures. Admits he blew it. He came under the influence of some counter culture hippie movement leader which altered his behavior. After filming he grew his hair long and grew a beard. Was warned not to show up at premiere like that. He did and was fired.
Broccoli and Saltzman did not want Connery for Diamonds. United Artists overrode them. UA contacted Connery and negotiated the deal.
Moore- Broccoli didn't want him. The first two Moore tried to be tough guy like Connery. It wasn't working. So, instead of having Moore become Bond, it was decided to have Bond become Moore.
Never Say Never Again-Connery did this specifically to stab Broccoli in the back. There is a Tonight Show clip where Carson asks Connery, "Who was the first Bond villian?" Connery replies, "Cubby Broccoli."
Dalton- wanted darker Bond. Didn't work with audiences so he was replaced with Brosnan.
Brosnan-got fired. After 911 producers felt the old formula wouldn't work anymore. They called him to say tthey were going with someone else.
Craig-I was suprised at all the fanboy hatred in both the press and the internet at his announcement. No indication how long Craig will be around, but you're only as good as your last movie, with the success of Skyfall it's Craig's decision.
The rights
Saltzman lived the high life and got deep into debt. Had to sell his half of EON to cover his debts. Rufused to sell to Broccoli. Sold his half to UA. Broccoli and Saltzman didn't speak again until Saltzman was invited to premiere of For Your Eyes Only where they made up. Interestingly, when Broccoli was on his deathbed, Connery called him and made up.
Don't remember details but at some point UA also obtained Broccoli's half interest in Bond.
When Kevin McClory was trying to get Columbia to make a non-EON Casino Royale everything ended up in court. The result, UA got ownership of everything, Thunderball, SPECTRE, Blofeld, Never Say Never and Casino Royale. Whoever owns UA owns James Bond lock, stock and barrell.
Interestingly, the latested Bond novel states "James Bond" and "007" are trademarks are EON. The Fleming estate may not own Bond anymore, outside the publishing rights of the original Fleming novels.
Connery- originally had a six picture deal. Broke his contract. The differences between him and the producers went far beyond money, downright hatred. Connery once quit working on the set of YOLT when Saltzman walked on the set. Would not resume working till Saltzman left.
Lazenby- Wanted to be Bond for several pictures. Admits he blew it. He came under the influence of some counter culture hippie movement leader which altered his behavior. After filming he grew his hair long and grew a beard. Was warned not to show up at premiere like that. He did and was fired.
Broccoli and Saltzman did not want Connery for Diamonds. United Artists overrode them. UA contacted Connery and negotiated the deal.
Moore- Broccoli didn't want him. The first two Moore tried to be tough guy like Connery. It wasn't working. So, instead of having Moore become Bond, it was decided to have Bond become Moore.
Never Say Never Again-Connery did this specifically to stab Broccoli in the back. There is a Tonight Show clip where Carson asks Connery, "Who was the first Bond villian?" Connery replies, "Cubby Broccoli."
Dalton- wanted darker Bond. Didn't work with audiences so he was replaced with Brosnan.
Brosnan-got fired. After 911 producers felt the old formula wouldn't work anymore. They called him to say tthey were going with someone else.
Craig-I was suprised at all the fanboy hatred in both the press and the internet at his announcement. No indication how long Craig will be around, but you're only as good as your last movie, with the success of Skyfall it's Craig's decision.
The rights
Saltzman lived the high life and got deep into debt. Had to sell his half of EON to cover his debts. Rufused to sell to Broccoli. Sold his half to UA. Broccoli and Saltzman didn't speak again until Saltzman was invited to premiere of For Your Eyes Only where they made up. Interestingly, when Broccoli was on his deathbed, Connery called him and made up.
Don't remember details but at some point UA also obtained Broccoli's half interest in Bond.
When Kevin McClory was trying to get Columbia to make a non-EON Casino Royale everything ended up in court. The result, UA got ownership of everything, Thunderball, SPECTRE, Blofeld, Never Say Never and Casino Royale. Whoever owns UA owns James Bond lock, stock and barrell.
Interestingly, the latested Bond novel states "James Bond" and "007" are trademarks are EON. The Fleming estate may not own Bond anymore, outside the publishing rights of the original Fleming novels.
03-07-13, 10:38 AM
#64
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Re: Bond 24 (2014)
I do agree that now is the time to get some "name" directors for the Bond series, since Skyfall seemed to prove that is a successful route. While these directors are techincally hired guns, Skyfall, pulled something off in being both a Bond movie then shifting gears to be something a bit grittier and unique in the final act. I am hoping they do this for the rest of Craig's tenure. FWIW, upon placing Skyfall in my set, I realized its significance in the big picture. It's the last of the Bonds for the first 50 year time span, and also the first of a new era. If they finish Craig's series with unique filmmakers, they would be truly rejuvenating the series and stating they are more than just action movies from this point.
03-19-13, 09:02 PM
#66
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Re: Bond 24 (2014)
So probably around 2015. I can see that timeline as being realistic. I assume a final script isn't even complete yet. I can't see them being ready to film this year to make a 2014 release. I think they need to spend 2013 on the script, hiring a director and casting.
03-19-13, 09:46 PM
#68
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Re: Bond 24 (2014)
I do agree that now is the time to get some "name" directors for the Bond series, since Skyfall seemed to prove that is a successful route. While these directors are techincally hired guns, Skyfall, pulled something off in being both a Bond movie then shifting gears to be something a bit grittier and unique in the final act. I am hoping they do this for the rest of Craig's tenure. FWIW, upon placing Skyfall in my set, I realized its significance in the big picture. It's the last of the Bonds for the first 50 year time span, and also the first of a new era. If they finish Craig's series with unique filmmakers, they would be truly rejuvenating the series and stating they are more than just action movies from this point.
03-19-13, 11:20 PM
#69
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Re: Bond 24 (2014)
Up to a point, he's done some artsy awards stuff like Finding Neverland and Monster's Ball. The Bond franchise doesn't want so-called auteurs anywhere near it, because it's franchise that costs so much to produce that every movie has to basically follow a cookie-cutter formula. Forester and Mendes are probably the closest to "artsy" directors that have ever been near it. Whether that will change or not remains to be seen, of course, but it's a big franchise movie. It can't really take risks, except superficial ones. Or at least that's been the case in the past.
03-19-13, 11:29 PM
#71
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Re: Bond 24 (2014)
But as far as I know this movie was essentially his 1st big budget action movie.
03-19-13, 11:34 PM
#72
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Re: Bond 24 (2014)
Nothing wrong with gadget either (they can make sense) otherwise it has and does start to feel like any other number of actions style films of today. Plus I am still not found of Craig as Bond, never had the right look in my opinion.
03-19-13, 11:44 PM
#73
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Re: Bond 24 (2014)
I know Michael G. Wilson and Barbara Broccoli would never hire him, but I would love to see Tim Van Patten be given a shot to direct a feature like a Bond movie.
He's HBO's lead director and his worked on Game of Thrones, The Pacific, The Sopranos and Boardwalk Empire just to name a few. From the episodes I saw that he directed on The Pacific, he is more than capable of handling a big budget action sequences.
Another person I would love to see get a shot at a feature like this is Jon Cassar. He was 24's lead director for most of it's run.
He's HBO's lead director and his worked on Game of Thrones, The Pacific, The Sopranos and Boardwalk Empire just to name a few. From the episodes I saw that he directed on The Pacific, he is more than capable of handling a big budget action sequences.
Another person I would love to see get a shot at a feature like this is Jon Cassar. He was 24's lead director for most of it's run.
03-20-13, 07:11 AM
#75
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